💽Programming Chat v2

[blazing garden]

That primarily teaches Lua but also has a few lessons on Python, JS and C++

I lost the word 😭

What I mean is

For example "lists"

[rustic vine]

oh, I didn't know that

hm, ok

if you're looking to follow a series of videos I know this guy can be good

he has "from-0" playlists for py

what did you like about the scripting school game?

[blazing garden]

Idk if it's just me, but it feels like it's going too quick

Without actually explaining what certain things mean

[rustic vine]

where is that in the list of things you've learned?

looks like u got for loops going too

[blazing garden]

It's the 3rd lesson

[rustic vine]

oh, hm

whats before it?

[blazing garden]

Variables and Types

[rustic vine]

types...?

huh

[rustic vine]

oh thats

hm

yea idk why its showing you for loops before getting to for loops

[spare quartz]

lemme just elaborate on something i saw in that post (im not a python developer so i cant write examples), do you know what an array is

[blazing garden]

Not really

I recognize the word

But idk what it does

[rustic vine]

yeah I would definitely suggest going through those videos

[blazing garden]

And it doesnt explain it anywhere

Thats what I mean with I dont like that website

[rustic vine]

or I can teach python if thats helpful, I'm free all afternoon 😁

[spare quartz]

i can just teach basic computer stuff wrt python 💔

[rustic vine]

I use it a lot for prototyping so im pretty familiar

its a fun language rlly

[blazing garden]

Sure

Lemme just

[rustic vine]

my biggest gripe with it is

lack of types

[blazing garden]

These are the only lessons in that Scripting School game

[rustic vine]

I think forced indentation is ok tbh

some people hate it tho

do you want to stream?

feels like that would be easier than taking a lot of screenshots

or copy-paste

[blazing garden]

uh

Well what would you need to see

[rustic vine]

presumably u have python installed yea?

[blazing garden]

yes

[rustic vine]

you can use the builtin ide

[blazing garden]

and VScode

[rustic vine]

or vscode thats fine

I just meant u can stream vscode

[blazing garden]

sure, im just not really sure I can follow just words

[rustic vine]

I can also stream if thats helpful

or you can follow the videos I sent

[blazing garden]

I like having it like this where I can see what Im actually supposed to do

[blazing garden]

yeah ill check them out rq

[rustic vine]

idk how the voice channels here work

[blazing garden]

like any vc I guess? 😭

[rustic vine]

#1224025725229858937

ye I just found one

they werent' on my channel list

or something idk its weird

[blazing garden]

oh mine neither

I guess cuz they fixed some things or smth

[rustic vine]

I think you can just click on that

[blazing garden]

Im not sure what happened yesterday tbh, all the channels just disappeared

[rustic vine]

the link

I think they were redoing things

[timid quartz]

small.

this isn’t the 1980s

[spare quartz]

HUGE

aera you're supposed to be smart

how do you not know the meaning of "en masse"

[spare quartz]

our PNG parser now does validation

time to add all these unrecognized chunks

[blazing garden]

@rustic vine mb for disappearing lol my ping spiked up to like 5000ms

[rustic vine]

all g

[blazing garden]

imma go play something before going to bed tho anyway

[rustic vine]

have you been working on like this one big project for this entire time

like what is the bread group meant for

[spare quartz]

everything

[rustic vine]

or like whats the final goal

wth

bruh

[spare quartz]

like succession of everything

[rustic vine]

alr gn

[blazing garden]

gn!

[rustic vine]

feel free to ask any questions here

[blazing garden]

Thanks for the help btw

[rustic vine]

either I or someone smarter will answer

😁

[blazing garden]

I probably will ask a lot of questions here

[rustic vine]

LOL ok

thats

rlly based actually

[blazing garden]

I think this and technology are gonna be my most active threads

[rustic vine]

I feel like u guys are just doing so many things so I wasn't sure what was going on

but now it makes sense

but isn't that unrealistic @spare quartz ?

like even just from a maintenance standpoint

[rustic vine]

go for it

I think everyone should learn how to program

its a very rewarding experience

[blazing garden]

and fun af when you actually understand it 😭

Thats the thing, I kinda always went for building in studio because it was the easiest but I just dont really like it, it gets boring after like 30 minutes

[rustic vine]

LOL thats what im sayin bruh

[spare quartz]

its unrealistic but i practically have infinite time and no restrictions, so when i reach the point where i can run an os off it alone i'll consider it "good" (but still needs improvement)

[rustic vine]

down with the builders + modelers

OK

im just worried about bitrot and bus factor

thats all

I don't want all the work to go into the drain someday

[spare quartz]

and although its open source really only we use it, so theres nobody we have to maintain it for... just test samples we need to check for it

[rustic vine]

my main reason for contributing to OSS instead of making my own is cuz I know it'll have a better future there

because I don't know what my future plans are and can't promise to maintain something forever

[rustic vine]

maintain it for yourself

thats still maintenance

[spare quartz]

well..

(6,606 files, 133 folders, the library itself is only 1* MB so this is roughly like >90 versions published)

i really wish we still had the old copies before i rm -rf'd them all on accident 💔

[spare quartz]

I COULD'VE JUST DONE THIS TO CREATE A MASK

AUGHHH

this just popped up in my head as i was writing background chunk support

[spare quartz]

itxt...

[blazing garden]

@rustic vine It’s 1:31 AM, I’m meant to be sleeping, but I just came up with an idea.

I want to try and create a program or whatever you wanna call it, that automatically deletes Downloaded files within a certain amount of time (for example 3 months), that way you don’t have to manually delete files because your storage is low if you have a computer with low storage.

Now that I actually know what to make I feel like it’ll be easier

[rustic vine]

lol yea it be like that sometimes, as for the program, I think that sounds good. I would probably personally be worried about it deleting files that I later want back, but tbf its downloads and if you're not worried then go for it!

definitely doable and should be a good introduction, not too difficult idt

[pallid loom]

Should be somewhat simple to inplement

Give it a folder and run this for every file in said folder

import os.path, time
print("last modified: %s" % time.ctime(os.path.getmtime(file)))
print("created: %s" % time.ctime(os.path.getctime(file)))

[rustic vine]

hi teo 😁

look what I got

[pallid loom]

Oh!

Fully operational I see?

7.8 TiB

[rustic vine]

indeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

[pallid loom]

Also sorry for not helping, working 2 jobs at the moment

[rustic vine]

yea I have it quota'd to 7.8 tib

thats half of 80% of my usable capacity

apparently you don't wanna fill zfs pools beyond 80 too much

[pallid loom]

That's some really good capacity

[rustic vine]

the other half I have dedicated to backups rn

[pallid loom]

I assume truenas is working fine?

[rustic vine]

appears to be

[pallid loom]

I mean as in

Are you enjoying your experience so far

[rustic vine]

I think it is ok

I didn't expect all configuration to be through the gui

I think I would honestly like everything in the terminal or through a cli better

[pallid loom]

You can do both

Depends on what you want really

The webui really just calls basic commands behind the scenes

[rustic vine]

yeah I looked into it and seems like people recommend not administrating it through the terminal

[pallid loom]

It's a pain

[rustic vine]

for whatever reason

yeah maybe

[pallid loom]

Much slower to do aswell

[rustic vine]

but it works good for now and I'm pretty happy with it

[pallid loom]

Good to hear

[rustic vine]

very easy to get configured cuz it was all gui

[rustic vine]

also u are all good man

that sounds like a lot

why are u working 2?

[pallid loom]

I've got 2 months in a year I can work so

Busy with school other times

[rustic vine]

right

[pallid loom]

May aswell use it all up

[rustic vine]

u ever think about doing a co-op?

[pallid loom]

co-op?

[rustic vine]

yeah

oh

must be an american thing

basically you can take a semester or 2 even where you

work a job

[pallid loom]

Ah I see

[rustic vine]

but you still get credit

for your classes

[pallid loom]

Yeah no it exists here but it's like

[rustic vine]

because the job is related to your major

[pallid loom]

I'm not in college yet exactly

[rustic vine]

oh huh

[pallid loom]

Just finished high (by croat education)

[rustic vine]

are u not 18 yet?

[pallid loom]

meaning I'm 18 and finished 12 years of education so far

[rustic vine]

oh

ok

so college in the fall?

[pallid loom]

Not sure what that's equal to in america

[pallid loom]

If I get in, yes

[rustic vine]

thats basically the same here

post-HS

HS grad

[pallid loom]

It's going to be a very interesting thing if I do

Since it's in a whole other country

[rustic vine]

oh you don't know yet?

whaaaaaaaaat

[pallid loom]

And a language I don't know

[rustic vine]

wait thats rlly cool

[pallid loom]

Applications opened only 4 days ago

[rustic vine]

sounds expensive tho

oh huh

ok

[pallid loom]

And I only now got the results from my finals

[rustic vine]

in the US you apply in like oct of your first semester

[pallid loom]

In what sense

[rustic vine]

and you get results early next year

idk travelling to a new country

living there yourself

[pallid loom]

Shouldn't be that much

[rustic vine]

what country?

[pallid loom]

Allocating 1k euro max per month

Austria

[rustic vine]

thats neat

[pallid loom]

Do keep in mind college is free

[rustic vine]

what

bruh

[pallid loom]

The only tuition fee is a 24 euro thing to get your card

Oh you didn't know?

[rustic vine]

WTH

brah

no I ain't know this

[pallid loom]

Yeah no basically 98% of colleges in Europe are free for EU citizens

[rustic vine]

wait wth austria is jsut all mountains

its all mountains

[pallid loom]

Healthcare is free aswell for every EU country

[rustic vine]

that must be fun to drive in

[pallid loom]

No not really

It's actually quite flat

Depends on where you look

[rustic vine]

im looking on the

west

its like all mountains there

wait maybe thats more italy

and switzerland

[pallid loom]

What you're talking about are the Alps

Switzerland is by far the hilliest country in Europe

[rustic vine]

oh

I see

right thats where they get that expensive water from

[pallid loom]

interesting way of knowing about it

[rustic vine]

LOL

[pallid loom]

But yeah we'll have to see

[rustic vine]

sorry im an american

[pallid loom]

Results somewhere in October

[rustic vine]

u shouldn't expect me to know anything

[pallid loom]

You're a mix

[rustic vine]

GOOD LUCK 🙏

[pallid loom]

Chinese American

[rustic vine]

im chinese

im not american

I born in china

👍

thx

[pallid loom]

No problem

Unfortunately is-

[rustic vine]

yw

[pallid loom]

Interesting comment

[spare quartz]

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh--------------

[pallid loom]

Hello atp

[rustic vine]

no need to flex ur

INTELLIJ

PRO

V1

PLUS MAX

ULTIMATE

PROFILER

[pallid loom]

java 22 edition

[rustic vine]

tru

[pallid loom]

community edition

[rustic vine]

whats the 2 jobs u working?

[pallid loom]

(education edition)

[rustic vine]

oh u said retail is one right

[pallid loom]

oh kinda boring tbh

[pallid loom]

yeah

[rustic vine]

nah go for it

what are they

im interested

[pallid loom]

other is just doing some like how do you say it

[spare quartz]

testing through 433 images hurts

[pallid loom]

conferences

[rustic vine]

hm

wdym

[pallid loom]

kind of hard to explain

[rustic vine]

example?

of what u do

[pallid loom]

astrophotography & general astronomy

the basics of it

[rustic vine]

wait huh

[pallid loom]

to tourists n stuff

[rustic vine]

whats that got to do with conferences

wait is that an awesome job

[pallid loom]

I don't know how to explain jt

it's kinda difficult

[rustic vine]

or like is it not awesome

that sounds kinda awesome

[pallid loom]

It is when you don't consider the commute

[rustic vine]

oh

[pallid loom]

220 km per day

136 mi

[rustic vine]

WTH

no way

[pallid loom]

yeah

[rustic vine]

how are u doing that

[pallid loom]

wdym

[rustic vine]

wait no thats actually insane

[pallid loom]

it's only an hour drive one way

not that bad

[rustic vine]

wait rlly

is there like no traffic

[pallid loom]

it does help that I go 130 kph

[rustic vine]

is that fast

[blazing garden]

How fucking fast are you driving

Geez

[pallid loom]

80 mph

[rustic vine]

shouldn't u be asleep

[blazing garden]

220km takes at least 4 hours

[rustic vine]

wait thats not that fast

[blazing garden]

Oh yeah

[pallid loom]

told you

[rustic vine]

atl drivers go 100mph daily

[pallid loom]

it's a normal speed

it's 100 km one way

[rustic vine]

and only 36 back??

hwow does that work

[pallid loom]

no..?

[rustic vine]

u said 136

[pallid loom]

100 km to get there 100 to get back

[rustic vine]

WAIT THATS MILES

[pallid loom]

yes

[rustic vine]

ur units are stupid

you should use the dumb american ones

[pallid loom]

sorry American

your rockets use our units

[rustic vine]

bruh

no they don't

[spare quartz]

we use a mix

[pallid loom]

wdym they don't

[rustic vine]

I bet spacex uses furlongs per millisecond

[pallid loom]

last time you guys tried to have a rocket made with mph it fucking killed itself

not kidding either

[spare quartz]

wtf is a furlong

[pallid loom]

sensor by Lockheed Martin or some shit

[rustic vine]

u never used furlongs before??

[spare quartz]

that wasn't intentional

[rustic vine]

you're missing out bruh

[spare quartz]

we just got our maths mixed up

[pallid loom]

provided units in miles instead of kpj

still is fucking hilarious

[rustic vine]

kilopasjules

[spare quartz]

i hope esa blows up forever......

[pallid loom]

"oh no I'm fucking facing the ground better Kms"

[pallid loom]

good luck

[rustic vine]

esa is irrelevant

[spare quartz]

wait didnt they just fire like 2000 nasa employees

[rustic vine]

oh

they did

[spare quartz]

nvm we're done actually

[pallid loom]

yes, yes they did

[rustic vine]

I think

ye we're cooked

[pallid loom]

and they're reducing the budget even more

[rustic vine]

wait we didn't need them anyway

[pallid loom]

Europe wins again by doing absolutely nothing

Classic

[rustic vine]

I ain't ever heard of

esa ever doing anything

actually

[spare quartz]

they're everywhere 😭

[rustic vine]

other than being written on a sign for nasa's rocket

[pallid loom]

they do quite a lot of planetary analysis

[rustic vine]

decades of planetary analysis

and still no livable planet found

what r they doin

[pallid loom]

their gimmick isn't sending random shit to space

it's examining it from earth itself

[spare quartz]

oh cool i made a staircase

[pallid loom]

oh we did

just we couldn't get there in our lifetimes

[rustic vine]

WDYM SENDING A TESLA CAR IS SCIENTIFIC

[rustic vine]

stop recursion

u know you could've bread.experts.group

[spare quartz]

❌

[rustic vine]

recursion bad

[spare quartz]

who is org.bread

[rustic vine]

recusion = stack overflow

[spare quartz]

we dont own that!

[rustic vine]

TOO BAD

WHO CARES

IF U OWN IT!!

com.company.co

[spare quartz]

this is my city

[rustic vine]

your city is about to meet

the demolisher

this

[spare quartz]

anyways i need it ☹️

[rustic vine]

why

[pallid loom]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler-22b

[spare quartz]

IDAT concatenation

[rustic vine]

recursion can always be rewritten as a loop

thats like proved or something

[rustic vine]

bruh this is a bait planet

this is miller's planet

from interstellar

[pallid loom]

incredible connections

[spare quartz]

okay but its probably just dust and rocks

useless planet

[pallid loom]

I don't know where the fuck you keep pulling these out of

[rustic vine]

wdym

pulling what

[pallid loom]

would you rather go to mars and die

[rustic vine]

texas planet

[spare quartz]

venus

👍

[pallid loom]

the fucking connections

how do I say it

[rustic vine]

what connections

[pallid loom]

analogies

I don't know ffs

I'm tired it's 2 am and I drove from said second job until midnight

[rustic vine]

this connection?

[rustic vine]

oh ok

um

I just remember

interstellar cuz it was a good movie

[rustic vine]

arrived at 26 past midnight??

[pallid loom]

yeah

[rustic vine]

this guy isa ctually crazy

[pallid loom]

it's currently 02:26

[rustic vine]

ur actually shortening

your lifespan

by doing this

[pallid loom]

well aware

[rustic vine]

BRUH

STOP

[spare quartz]

90% of all automotive emissions found

[rustic vine]

its ok

[pallid loom]

it's a fucking Clio

[rustic vine]

taylor swift one flight

is like 1 million x that

do not fret

[pallid loom]

this thing driving that far is less harmful than an f150 starting up

it's said that it's actually true

[rustic vine]

LOL

[spare quartz]

😭

[blazing garden]

By staying up late?

[rustic vine]

by

working 2 jobs

at 18

[pallid loom]

just a second

[rustic vine]

with

impossible commutes

and yes by staying up late

[pallid loom]

to be fair

2nd job is only twice a week

first is 6 days a week

[blazing garden]

Oh

[rustic vine]

bro teo I mgiht as well ship u off to

[blazing garden]

It’s 2:28 AM

[rustic vine]

kepler 22

[pallid loom]

thanks bro

[rustic vine]

you can go work there

[pallid loom]

but hold on

[rustic vine]

mankinds strongest commuter

[pallid loom]

let me show you what I meant

[rustic vine]

go to sleep!

[pallid loom]

oh and it's a manual

[blazing garden]

Python

[pallid loom]

but it doesn't matter much

[rustic vine]

😭

[blazing garden]

C++

[rustic vine]

stop bruh u ain't productive at 3 in the morning

[blazing garden]

HTML & CSS

[rustic vine]

hop off

[blazing garden]

Java

JS and TS

Luau

[rustic vine]

this is u rn btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqqCTC9nQDY

[lone sky]

https://tenor.com/view/1997-hello-chat-gif-24146200

[pallid loom]

oh btw

[spare quartz]

this 90 year old transmission still does things the old fashioned way

[pallid loom]

here's what I mean

[rustic vine]

if teo doesn't

[rustic vine]

stop cooking himself

then hes gonna be the

90 year old

[spare quartz]

thats pretty good

[rustic vine]

yea but u don't no bed

[blazing garden]

YES

[spare quartz]

considering the average lifespan here is like 75

[blazing garden]

I’m gonna create an AI one day

[blazing garden]

ok goodnight

[pallid loom]

oh no where do I put my fucking planks for my fuckass house that destroys itself if looked at badly

[rustic vine]

no bed?

[spare quartz]

on the ceiling of your car

duh

[pallid loom]

exactly

I don't need no bed

this is fucking depressing

[spare quartz]

brb tornado

[rustic vine]

WTH Is that car

[rustic vine]

what

[pallid loom]

Toyota Aygo

[rustic vine]

whys the white house

outside ur window

what

[spare quartz]

truck i saw a day ago

[pallid loom]

Where's the fucking video

[spare quartz]

idk why he has 4 tires

[pallid loom]

NEED IT TO DRIVE OFFROAD

[rustic vine]

WAIT WTH ARE THOSE POWER LINES

THE TRUCK ISNT EVEN THE WORST THING THERE

😭

[pallid loom]

(onto a gravel driveway)

[spare quartz]

they work 👍

[pallid loom]

a total of 10 meters

[rustic vine]

avoid texas bruh

[pallid loom]

man fuck your highways

like the highways we've got in Europe are 2 lanes and at most 4

and by most I mean 4

[spare quartz]

just one more lane

[rustic vine]

what we thinkin

[pallid loom]

like I don't get it how the fuck you can actually have any situational awareness in a 15 lane road

[rustic vine]

peak or not peak

[spare quartz]

anyways take this big cloud

[pallid loom]

the single cloud from the nearest AWS Cluster blowing up

(half of the Internet is gone)

[rustic vine]

16 ft 2in

[rustic vine]

oh

unfortunate

[pallid loom]

also I'm fucking sorry

[rustic vine]

yea you should be

[pallid loom]

how can Americans complain about legroom in an f150

[rustic vine]

you should be buddy

[pallid loom]

I'm fucking 192 cm tall

[rustic vine]

CUZ WERE TALL

oh

[pallid loom]

and I fit in a fucking Clio

[rustic vine]

right

[spare quartz]

giants among us

[pallid loom]

YOURE SHORT!!!

[rustic vine]

giants among us

[spare quartz]

did chernobyl make people taller

[rustic vine]

w hat happened to antarctica?

[spare quartz]

scientists too short to be measured

[rustic vine]

oh

[pallid loom]

Joe from McDonald's ate it

sorry

It's his breakfast meal

[rustic vine]

joe deez

[spare quartz]

no but what happened to

to umm to.. to uhh

to...

[rustic vine]

south sudan

[pallid loom]

eaten by Alex

What's some random male us citizen name

Oh btw here's same chart but female

Chart...

map

[rustic vine]

whys it PINK

[pallid loom]

uuuuuh

because we associate colours with genders for whatever reason

[rustic vine]

oh there are no females in antarctica

and south sudan

thats very unfortunate

I'm terribly sorry for their loss

[pallid loom]

are you planning to go to Antarctica

[spare quartz]

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1943049240734846976/vid/avc1/854x480/bHwIYLlipdl44vYq.mp4?tag=14

[pallid loom]

Thank you atp

[rustic vine]

actually a friend of mine was talkinga bout that

there was a job opening at mcmurdo station

they needed a MSDOS developer

[spare quartz]

yooo id actually fit for that job now

[pallid loom]

btw I'm wondering

what's like a larger car than an f150

that you can actually see sometimes

[rustic vine]

van

rv

[spare quartz]

uhh

utility truck

[rustic vine]

f250

[spare quartz]

from a power company

[rustic vine]

f350

f450

[spare quartz]

or a fire truck

or an ambulance...

[rustic vine]

police car

they're very large

[pallid loom]

I mean as in

[rustic vine]

you can tell cuz everyone slows down

around them

[spare quartz]

SWAT bearcats are large yes

[pallid loom]

normal person

[rustic vine]

because of how large they are

f250

f350

f450

[pallid loom]

aren't there some enormous Cadillacs aswell or some bs

[rustic vine]

vans

[pallid loom]

I forget the name

[rustic vine]

u don't ever see

them

[spare quartz]

naw wtf is this

[rustic vine]

whats wrong

[spare quartz]

why does it have a double chin

the cars dont need obesity

[proud creek]

what is bro playing

[rustic vine]

we gave them

[pallid loom]

American cars need to emulate American people

also I have to ask

Why do people enjoy tall cars

I went from driving a somewhat tall car to a shorter one

It just feels so much better

[spare quartz]

have you heard of the phrase "compensating for something"

[pallid loom]

is that the only reason

[rustic vine]

why wouldn't they?

[spare quartz]

like 90% of trucks dont actually see any real work so

basically

[pallid loom]

handling and suspension sucks

[rustic vine]

now I can run over children without even seeing them

[pallid loom]

like completely

[rustic vine]

oh you mean like... handling

I was moreso thinking about the

running over kids part

[spare quartz]

i think thats a harry specific thing

[rustic vine]

what

huh

no

[pallid loom]

Gotta love a tank having better visibility

[spare quartz]

tanks also have better fuel compatibility

we should all get tanks

[pallid loom]

Btw

A60h In question

[rustic vine]

is that so after you run them over you can store them in the basket

at the back

thats very fancy

[pallid loom]

You should become an engineer

[rustic vine]

if only the

[pallid loom]

You'd make a great engineer at ford

[rustic vine]

f150 had that feature

thats what im saying

[pallid loom]

Introducing the KidScoop on 2027 f150 with SYNC 6

Now with soccer games right on your windshield

[rustic vine]

Complete with KidCounter™ Technology so you can accurately count your score

[pallid loom]

And KidAssist to guide the scoop onto the target automatically

[rustic vine]

wth

thats cheating

[pallid loom]

It's an extra option

[spare quartz]

hey guys i got a question

should i take this into the shop or no

[pallid loom]

Oil change and she's fine

1st owner well cared for

[rustic vine]

no thats totaled, mitsubishi

[rustic vine]

oh ok

[spare quartz]

夏は車内にモバイルバッテリー置いたらあかんで
おじさんとの約束や

[pallid loom]

Part of the KidTargeting system

[rustic vine]

I thnk you mean KidScope™

[pallid loom]

Simply input a child's name and the truck will automatically find them and drive to them using Ford BlueCruise and automatically engage the KidAssist system

[spare quartz]

one day..... and dr stone.... 4th season... 2nd cour...

it will be ouuuuuut

[timid quartz]

Ohhh @spare quartz it’s heavily storming in my area :3

[rustic vine]

oh it looks real bad over downtown

[spare quartz]

LazyPartialResult[OK: PNGChunk."sTER"[2][ANCILLARY,SPECIFICATION,SAFE-TO-COPY], ERR: org.bread_experts_group.coder.format.parse.FallbackException: Fallback failure]

[timid quartz]

Yeah I just got drenched

[rustic vine]

you're outside?? 😭 rip

[timid quartz]

Shoulda just used an NFS share…

[timid quartz]

I WAS, but no longer

[rustic vine]

hey man u might be right

you'll see I said that later (gui config was ok, but it forced me to do things in ways I didn't necessarily want, so maybe should've just managed it myself but this will work for now)

[timid quartz]

I had to abandon my laptop bag in my car though

[rustic vine]

lol

[lone sky]

need for speed???

[timid quartz]

network file system

[lone sky]

oh

lol

[spare quartz]

oFFs
sCAL
pCAL
sTER

nearly fully support for the PNG spec v3

there

100% supported

[rustic vine]

perfect

now if you type PNG

it can autocomplete

20 gazillion classes

[spare quartz]

not that much......

[spare quartz]

???

[rustic vine]

nice city

[spare quartz]

POV-Ray in 2008 is crazy

[timid quartz]

deflate

[spare quartz]

/ pkware

[timid quartz]

There’s been another sudo vuln

[blazing garden]

@rustic vine

I did obviously follow a guide, but I think the importance is more centered around actually understanding how the code works and what it does. I did actually write everything though 😭

And yes the calculator does work

[rustic vine]

Neat! Following a guide is perfectly fine, how else would you learn anything, lol

To be honest with u though the code here is a really really big leap from what I think you knew wrt the language itself yesterday

Are you sure you understand everything thats happening there? There is a lot going on. I'd be interested to hear u explain what each part does

Looks good otherwise tho 😁

[blazing garden]

I understand a whole lot, some of it honestly just takes some common sense, and like I said yesterday, I understand it a whole lot better when I can actually see it in front of me rather than just listening to someone talk about it.

Not everything though, but I won't be moving onto my actual project until I learn more anyway

But I did learn quite a bit from this

Also, I had some minor experience from doing very basic lua stuff as well

Also I'm quite awkward when it comes to questions like the ones you were asking, I knew a lot of answers to the questions you asked but didn't have the courage to say it in case I was wrong

[rustic vine]

I think thats great then. Want to try and explain how everything works sometime? At least personally, I've noticed that if im able to explain something to another person I get a better grasp of what's actually happening

[rustic vine]

Yea no problem, mb on that. I learn that way myself well so its easy to forget that not everyone necessarily does

[lone sky]

where the hell is my cat @timid quartz

bring it here

[blazing garden]

Not really, I feel like I'd be the same as yesterday, super awkward when explaining it lmao 😭

but yeah I wont move on to my main project until I do some more research anyway

[rustic vine]

Alr

Well actually would it be better if I just asked a few questions about some of the more complex parts

In here in text

And im curious how you learned tkinter

[rustic vine]

Is it bad

[timid quartz]

yeah

[rustic vine]

Can u elaborate im extra lazy

Who does it impact

[rustic vine]

Oh

Oh thats pretty bad

Must already have patches for it published right?

[blazing garden]

I didnt

[rustic vine]

😭

[blazing garden]

[spare quartz]

stupidest comments I’ve ever seen

[sterile ruin]

No fucking shit:

[pallid loom]

i love doing the Nightshift

@rustic vine since I know you said it's killing me

[spare quartz]

he's going terminal

[pallid loom]

commuting and walking final boss

[timid quartz]

ughhhh atp....I dont wanna use windows....

not again..........

[spare quartz]

why not

whats wrong and why do you have to use it

[timid quartz]

1. windows sucks
2. may have to use it cause things arent working quite right on linux

[spare quartz]

2. like

[timid quartz]

star citizen stopped wanting to work today

and battlefront 2

[spare quartz]

stop playing games

get back to coding

[timid quartz]

and also for some reason whenever my monitors turn off from inactivity and then turn back on

my second monitor will keep switching off and on until I replug it

not like flickering, slower than flickering

[timid quartz]

👎

also for 1. ik you can debloat windows to remove spyware and stuff but also the settings lowk suck and windows itself limits you more and babies you more

not as much control or customization

not without doing weird shit that might break the os

[spare quartz]

i mean persoanlly i havent dealt with any of that

i just modified a single json file and uninstalled stuff with bcu

[lone sky]

you know something I don't like much abt windows

is the font smoothing

[spare quartz]

what i do face is a little driver issue that crashes my computer whenever my tablet is turned off (pentablets fault)

[lone sky]

it sucks a LOT compared to linux

at least the desktop envs i have used

[timid quartz]

I mean idrc about the font smoothing on either tbh

[spare quartz]

have you tried screen calibration

[lone sky]

yes atp

yes i have

[spare quartz]

what font technology does your windows use

or do you not know

[timid quartz]

mmmm yeah star citizen still not worky...

fuck I dont wanna switch back

[spare quartz]

restarting takes like 10 seconds

do it

do iiiiiit

[timid quartz]

what switch or dual boot

[spare quartz]

?

[timid quartz]

u said do it

do what

[spare quartz]

restart...

press your bios key..

select Windows Boot Manager...

[timid quartz]

y I dont have windows dual booted rn

[spare quartz]

dual boot into it..

and stay there.... forever......

[timid quartz]

bad os...

[spare quartz]

better os than slopnix

[rustic vine]

Dublew Ess EL

[timid quartz]

yeah shit I should just do it

thing aint workin

[timid quartz]

linux on top

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/YzBENUJtr1Q?list=RDGMEMhCgTQvcskbGUxqI4Sn2QYw

[timid quartz]

fuck it ima just do it

ughh but spyware and bloat and terrible

[timid quartz]

ughh I dont wanna do it

[timid quartz]

I dont wanna do ittttt

ig I can run with it

and switch back later if I want to

although Ill probably just end up staying on windows

[spare quartz]

YAY!!!!!!

HES SO DUMB

GRAUAHGHA

kill death murder

[timid quartz]

this is such a sad day

bye linux my beloved

[spare quartz]

i want to MURDER all java devs

(but specifically lexmanos and his goons)

[devout musk]

nice

python gui's are a pain in the ass imo

[timid quartz]

ok but

without the java devs

u wouldnt have kotlin...or the jdk....or all the java ecosystem

[spare quartz]

i am literally a JVM developer

i dont use the java ecosystem

and i understand how the JDK works

unlike these stupid idiots building a stupid modloader

and since when did you defend java

[timid quartz]

this is true

java sucks

UGHHHH

do not wanna go to windowssss

I hate decisions

[spare quartz]

omg its an os

stop whining about it and just press your power button

[timid quartz]

IT SUCKS THOUGH

[spare quartz]

THATS IRRELEVANT

[timid quartz]

no it not

why would u wanna use an os that sucks

[spare quartz]

• you know how to operate it
• you're using it for (one) thing

literally just create a small partition for it

and use it

[timid quartz]

again

I dont really think dual booting makes a lot of sense

[spare quartz]

then what do you want

another computer? a vm?

[timid quartz]

id like for things to just work on linux

without much hassle

[spare quartz]

then just

make it work on windows first

and then

wait for it to work on linux

[timid quartz]

battlefront 2 idk if it will cause ea launcher sucks ass

genuinely

star citizen DOES except for some reason it stopped working for me

[spare quartz]

well then you just have to deal with dual booting

[timid quartz]

the monitor issues idk I hope that gets ironed out

[timid quartz]

or just using one os

(windows)

[spare quartz]

okay but why

if you like linux so much just

have two partitions

its not that hard

[timid quartz]

I DID have two partitions a while ago

but I barely used the linux partition for anything

[spare quartz]

ughhhh

worst computer user ever

[timid quartz]

I ended up just doing everything in windows because most of the stuff I was already doing was in windows

[lone sky]

wdym

[spare quartz]

it probably doesnt matter

i wonder why your font smoothing sucks cause for me its fine

[lone sky]

it's either

some windows shit

or my monitor is crap

[lone sky]

(it's some stupid samsung curved 60hz thing from god knows what era)

[timid quartz]

guhhh ok im gonna just do it...i hate it but at least stuff will work...and wsl exists for dev evironments

[lone sky]

it genuinely only has HDMI and DVI

[spare quartz]

idk how you can be this flip-flop on oses

[timid quartz]

atp im flip-flop on everything lmfao

[spare quartz]

WHY

fix that

[lone sky]

use a VM 👍

[timid quartz]

decisions are the bane of my existence

[timid quartz]

single gpu passthrough is aids

[lone sky]

fair

[timid quartz]

where im at rn
linux: doesnt suck, nice environment for desktop and dev, lots of choice and foss stuff, pretty lean; stuff doesnt always work, perpetually in game of catch-up to windows
windows: stuff just works, can be de-bloated ig, dont have to worry about compatibility issues because stuff is built for it; still kinda sucks even after de-bloating

im stuck between "do I put up with stuff not working to have a decent OS" or "do I put up with a less nice OS so that stuff can just work"

[spare quartz]

i feel like you have a very inconsistent standard

anyways hold this

[timid quartz]

I dont think I see things as black and white as you do

[spare quartz]

no im pretty sure its the opposite

you're calling an os with an inferior compatibility set as superior to and os with a better compatbility set

when we both know its more than that

so why not just get two partitions... and then... switch whenever you like

since restarts are so fast today

[timid quartz]

cause I did do the two partition thing

and found the restarts to be still annoying enough to not want them

[spare quartz]

ughuguhguhughuguhguhughugu

[timid quartz]

ok studio's not working that's it

[lone sky]

simply setup systemd-boot

it makes dual booting less painful

from what i've read at least

[timid quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/856172899076538438/1393006434840612974/IMG_6989.jpg?ex=687199d6&is=68704856&hm=368b6a773dde2aa28afda9596fe1e5b8d2048a2f5f0d0d2cb161f6937539ab37&

im trapped.

[spare quartz]

23423423423423234111111111432

problem...

[spare quartz]

there

[timid quartz]

got rid of sc on linux

waiting on damn windows iso to be created

tho idk I could just wait for sc

not like ive been playing it recently

wont kill me to not play it longer I don't think lmao

might just..stay here for now idk

[spare quartz]

there....

[timid quartz]

also sure Linux is inferior on the compatibility side, but its superior on the “not installed with a bunch of bloat and spyware by default” side and the “freedom and control” side

[spare quartz]

windows is fine on the latter

[timid quartz]

no

[spare quartz]

yes

[timid quartz]

one I said “by default”

you have to debloat windows

[spare quartz]

"latter" = "side and the “freedom and control” side"

[timid quartz]

oh

mm I would also disagree because windows babies you

[spare quartz]

in what way

[timid quartz]

like if I tell Linux to do something and I use sudo

It does it

But even sometimes as an administrator account, windows still restricts you from doing things

[spare quartz]

PsExec64 runas NT AUTHORITY

[timid quartz]

And changing some deeper settings in windows is more painful imo compared to Linux

[spare quartz]

(theres extremely little reason to change stuff not alloted to administrators in windows imo)

[timid quartz]

not only because they’re more hidden but because you have more hoops to jump through to get to them

[spare quartz]

(but PsExec64 lets you modify/delete ntoskrnl.exe, so, infinite amounts of control there)

[spare quartz]

fair but that could be compared to a distro that does the same

[timid quartz]

true but even on those distros you’re still able to drop into a shell, sudo, and adjust the same stuff as on a distro that’s not like that

[spare quartz]

you can do the same on windows

powershell is incredibly powerful

Sysinternals tools make it even more powerful

[timid quartz]

windows also isn’t free software

meaning you’re beholden to whatever MS decides they want to do with windows

[spare quartz]

same argument with paid distros

[timid quartz]

which can be good or can be bad

[spare quartz]

but really everyone just has an OEM key or pirates

[timid quartz]

I mean free as in freedom, not free as in money

[spare quartz]

well duh its an os

i mean linus torvalds could push an update to linux to add viruses

or your distro maintainer can

[timid quartz]

But then people would fork the kernel/distro

At a point before that

And continue on

[spare quartz]

you can do the same with windows ADK at a point before that

and continue on

supply chain attacks are kinda just like that

[timid quartz]

what is an adk

[spare quartz]

windows something deployment kit

[timid quartz]

but also you can’t fork the nt kernel or anything because MS keeps that entirely closed source

[spare quartz]

lets you create your own ISOs and modify the system packages

[timid quartz]

you still can’t modify the kernel itself though

Or other closed source system utilities

[spare quartz]

you can, with an asterisk

since its closed source its fundamentally a lot harder to do than something like linux, but its doable

[timid quartz]

and technically not even allowed

[spare quartz]

but 99% of linux/windows users would never think of such a thing

[timid quartz]

MS could take legal action on you

[spare quartz]

they wouldn't/can't

[timid quartz]

they would/can

[spare quartz]

they can't detect that

[timid quartz]

since the NT kernel and other closed source parts assumedly have no license

That means MS by default reserves all rights

[spare quartz]

uh huh

but if you were to modify your kernel privately

and didn't redistribute

that's perfectly fine under the law

its the same way minecraft modding works

[timid quartz]

mmmmmmmmmm

[spare quartz]

brb

lasanga

[timid quartz]

who want lasagna

[spare quartz]

anyways im not gonna argue that linux has no point it obviously does

im just saying that the amount of control alloted on windows is perfectly acceptable for practically 99.99% of users

[timid quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-pointless-cat-slide-futile-futility-gif-24881041

[spare quartz]

the remainder are either really dedicated modders or ...

crowdstrike...

[timid quartz]

also the dev env sucks

granted there’s WSL but

[spare quartz]

wsl is messy imo

i just resort to using a vm

[timid quartz]

yeah agreed

WSL doesn’t feel quite right

and NixOS specifically

because of the way it works

is very nice because it by default removes a lot of the cruft that would otherwise stay around when you uninstall a program