💽Programming Chat v2

[lone sky]

TRACKING JOCKEY!!

[rustic vine]

Fixed

[spare quartz]

$400? Impossible

[rustic vine]

Impossible like

Too expensive?

[spare quartz]

I can really only spend $200 right now… and even that’s like, my 20-year allowance

[rustic vine]

Thats what u get for wanting 64gb

[spare quartz]

Well I have 64gb of SODIMM now

I just can’t use or test it

[rustic vine]

Otherwise you can 100% buy one for 200

I know cuz i did

P52s

[spare quartz]

I’d rather just buy a marine battery

[rustic vine]

Oh ok

I mean laptops are nice

Cuz you can bring everywhere

I use my laptop for most of my code stuff

[spare quartz]

The thing about laptops though

[rustic vine]

Pick it up and can continue working

[spare quartz]

Is that they’re supposed to be portable right

[rustic vine]

Ye

[spare quartz]

I don’t move though

[rustic vine]

They are

[lone sky]

mhm

[rustic vine]

Oh

[spare quartz]

So I’d rather just buy a massive battery

[rustic vine]

Right

I forgot

[lone sky]

riiight

just get a battery then???

[spare quartz]

Or a gas generator… but those are really expensive

[lone sky]

a GAS GENERATOR

FOR A COMPUTER

[spare quartz]

I need it for IntelliJ

[lone sky]

OKAY.

[rustic vine]

@spare quartz

[spare quartz]

But I meant like, for powering the house

My computer only really needs 2 kw at max

[spare quartz]

No not really

If you’re transferring files you might need to restart the transfer

But no major damage will be done

[rustic vine]

Nothing permanent right?

[spare quartz]

Nah

Unless it’s during a BIOS update or something

Cause duh

The intrusive thoughts

[rustic vine]

There like

Are no bios updates

[spare quartz]

Are making me wanna stick my finger in the fan

[rustic vine]

Its a 2013 mobo

[rustic vine]

Do it

[spare quartz]

CPU firmware or OS then

Whatever

[rustic vine]

Yea just gonna hope that won't happen

Should be fine without one then

[spare quartz]

How it feels being unable to code for a day

I’d rather have no internet

[rustic vine]

the humble laptop

[spare quartz]

I need 50 kg of uranium for IntelliJ

[spare quartz]

Just found the goldmine of ancient forum behavior

Unfortunately I’m covered in water and my phone is low on battery

And the power still isn’t back..

[timid quartz]

child protective services??

[spare quartz]

YOU SRE THE SECOND PERSON TO SAY THAT

my codev said they’re gonna take me away 😭😭

[timid quartz]

THEY ARE

[spare quartz]

I’m going to BOMB THEIR TRUCK if they don’t fix the power

[rustic vine]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shoo-away-gif-13653609800890535042

[rustic vine]

um

go to a park

😁

[spare quartz]

https://fixupx.com/gonglei89/status/1941616808185966785?s=46

Lei Gong (@gonglei89)

This much gold would just make gold worthless.

Quoting Black Hole (@konstructivizm)
︀
Asteroid Psyche 16 has been found to contain gold reserves worth $700 quintillion. That's enough to make everyone on Earth billionaires.

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FixupX · Jul 5, 2025, 9:54 PM

[rustic vine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/988661200827072592/1389797781643858041/image.png?ex=686b338c&is=6869e20c&hm=2b11e2945ed0317e4f8f46ec95ef6a89e59bd396361e723584fe0dd7023c8737&

[spare quartz]

need me a giant 20 ton block of gold in my bedroom I can use as a heatsink when our AC goes out

[rustic vine]

is gold a good heatsink?

[spare quartz]

or just buy aluminum

[rustic vine]

oh yea it is right

just more expensive than copper so nobody uses it?

[spare quartz]

all metals are fairly well at trapping heat and conducting it away

[spare quartz]

Copper has excellent thermal conductivity, better than gold afaik

[rustic vine]

o rlly

[spare quartz]

Aluminum has excellent thermal capacity

[rustic vine]

I swear I remember something something being gold plated

[spare quartz]

Probably for electrical conductivity

[rustic vine]

no it was like

a vapor chamber or smthn

idk maybeim truipping

[spare quartz]

Huh

[rustic vine]

thats why they make copper heat pipes and aluminum fin stacks right

[spare quartz]

Yes

[rustic vine]

ok

I see

[spare quartz]

It’s a materials game

Water is also great at storing and moving heat but it’s… water

A 20 ton block of packed snow….

pretty sure the best thermal conductor is diamonds but

I might be wrong

my protective bubble of water is gone and the heat is getting back auugghh

[rustic vine]

FIRE UP THE SWAMP COOLER

wait its late imma sleep

but still do that

[spare quartz]

No swamp coolers

[rustic vine]

I hope u get power restored soon

[rustic vine]

wait like

u are like nobody

[spare quartz]

Yes

[rustic vine]

everyone else is ok

what happened bruh

[spare quartz]

I can look at the neighbors across the street

And they have power

[rustic vine]

what

[spare quartz]

Death

[rustic vine]

what happened

why only u

nvm

I understand why

[lone sky]

@spare quartz got any wifi yet?

[spare quartz]

No WiFi without power

[rustic vine]

use your antenna

[lone sky]

...right

[rustic vine]

to recieve

wifis

[spare quartz]

That isn’t receptive to WiFi or Bluetooth

Or anything above 1 GHz

[rustic vine]

bruh

make an antenna that can

steal the wifis

then

[spare quartz]

I have

In fact I have thousands in my house

[rustic vine]

oh

then use those

[spare quartz]

But you can’t. Transmit WiFi

Without

Power

[pallid loom]

the humble extension cord

[spare quartz]

I wish but nobody here has outdoor sockets

[rustic vine]

u can

[spare quartz]

Only public buildings like schools do

[rustic vine]

using the humble extension cord

[pallid loom]

who gives a shit!!!

[rustic vine]

run it inside then

[lone sky]

that's what they want you to think

[pallid loom]

run it inside

[spare quartz]

I’m not breaking inside their houses! They all have guns!

[pallid loom]

to a window

[rustic vine]

what

just ask them

[pallid loom]

atp

ask

[spare quartz]

nooooo

[rustic vine]

do u not know your neighbors wth

[pallid loom]

they aren't the feds out to get to you

this isn't invincible

[spare quartz]

NO

this is Texas

[rustic vine]

my neighbors would be happy to

[spare quartz]

going outside as an unaccompanied minor gets CPS called

the bad kind

[rustic vine]

bruh

wait

[pallid loom]

aren't youb17

[rustic vine]

are u not 18

[pallid loom]

17

[spare quartz]

yeah but I still look young…

[rustic vine]

bruh

wait u aren't 18??

[spare quartz]

I’m early 17

[rustic vine]

its over bruh the cops are at my doorstep

[pallid loom]

how the fuck do I wake up this person

[rustic vine]

video call

[spare quartz]

Tear gas

[rustic vine]

atomic bomb

oh

ye what atp said

[pallid loom]

not responding to anything

and for some fucking reason normal calls don't work

"this person is not available try again later"

[spare quartz]

Actually nvm this heat is gonna make me look like a coal miner when we have power again

[spare quartz]

Are you sure their phone isn’t like

Dead

[pallid loom]

WhatsApp is saying it's ringing

some other app is showing battery as charging

[spare quartz]

Maybe DND? Iunno

[pallid loom]

they asked me to wake them up if they don't by themselves

anyhow, atp, do you not have the law that you can go anywhere when you're 16

in Texas

In Europe there is that law

[rustic vine]

LOL teo I have the perfect message

nvm I can' send it here

[pallid loom]

FFS I went 4 countries away WITHOUT any issue

[spare quartz]

Uhh, we have laws where you can work as young as 14 iirc

[rustic vine]

teo ignore atp

[spare quartz]

But… as far as I know being unaccompanied here is not seen upon well (unless it’s Halloween or something)

[rustic vine]

u can do whatever the hell u want at 17

atp just doesn't

[pallid loom]

drug

[rustic vine]

go outside

oh

[spare quartz]

You’re right, I should!!!!

[pallid loom]

shoot a lethal dose of ketanine into my heart I must

[spare quartz]

Ok Elon

[rustic vine]

teo u were so helpful with truenas thank u so much I got it working

🙏 🙏

[pallid loom]

sorry I wasn't at all

[rustic vine]

LOL ur good

[pallid loom]

fucking had to go sleep mane

[rustic vine]

wth isthat

[pallid loom]

I wake up at 6 am to go to fuckin work

[rustic vine]

WHAT

[pallid loom]

j*b

[rustic vine]

u working over the summer??

what are u doin

[pallid loom]

when else am I supposed to be working

[spare quartz]

IntelliJ IDEA

[timid quartz]

https://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/soundings/25070600_OBS/CRP.gif

mmm yummy yummy cape

[rustic vine]

idk some lazy bums just do nothing over the summer

[spare quartz]

Shut up weather nerd

[pallid loom]

money

[rustic vine]

STOCKS REFERENCE

[spare quartz]

I can’t even bully you with my radio frequency graph cause NO POWER

RAAAAH

[rustic vine]

SHORT IT

[rustic vine]

oh ok

what u doing?

[pallid loom]

basic ass job

pays more than jobs in the technical field

unfortunately

[rustic vine]

wait rlly

WHAT IS IT BRUH

SAY IT

[pallid loom]

"seasonal" cashier

[rustic vine]

oh ok

[pallid loom]

aka tourism

[rustic vine]

nice

hey man if it pays

[pallid loom]

it's fucking not

people are braindead

[rustic vine]

LOL

[pallid loom]

I don't know how they manage to breathe

[rustic vine]

chill bruh

[pallid loom]

how is everyone incapable of using the self checkouts

[rustic vine]

don't overthink it theres a lot of dumb people

just let them be

[pallid loom]

I'm sorry but there's a language select and nobody does

then they call me and ask uuuuuh what does this say

[rustic vine]

LOL

they're baiting

[pallid loom]

I wish

[rustic vine]

master baiters

[pallid loom]

do not say that out loud

[rustic vine]

mb

[spare quartz]

This is programming chat

He’s fine!

[rustic vine]

true

wth is aera doin on at 12

looking at the weather

[pallid loom]

uuuu rule 5 stick to texas

[rustic vine]

all this weather lookin and not enough

unflood doing

[spare quartz]

@timid quartz stupid idiot predict when the next rain is gonna be here

that’s the only good time in Texas

[rustic vine]

predict when lightning will strike which will power on atp's house

[spare quartz]

I need it

[timid quartz]

never

[rustic vine]

get a fat capacitor and a lightning rod

[timid quartz]

no more rain

[spare quartz]

“Meteorologist” and doesn’t even study meteors

Stupid job titles

Defund the NOAA

[rustic vine]

go to sleep bud

[spare quartz]

900 gigafarad and no lightning for another 100 years 💔

[rustic vine]

we do not need no NOAA if we build a wall so big and tall it will block out the bad clouds

[spare quartz]

Mars missions by 2018

[rustic vine]

TRUE

thank u elon

humans on mars by 2025

it can still happen

[steel rock]

u can get a ts/sci at 17

[spare quartz]

Oh dear god

I’m gonna be sleeping at ANOTHER PLACE OF RESIDENCE…

this will break my year chain of never being somewhere else for longer than a day

[timid quartz]

[spare quartz]

Tbf it IS an emergency

It probably would not be very healthy to sleep in the heat/humidity

OH MY GOD

THIS FUCKING CAT

SHE KEEPS STEPPING ON THE BUTTONS TO OPEN THE WINDOWS

SHE EVEN TURNED ON THE BLINKER

[timid quartz]

Tell that to anyone living in the tropics or south Florida

[spare quartz]

I’m gonna be honest we live in worse conditions than them

[timid quartz]

❌

[spare quartz]

South Texas fucking sucks

[timid quartz]

This new generation smh my head…lack of computer access is NOT an emergency

[spare quartz]

OKAY WELL IT JUSTIFIES MY ENTIRE EXISTENCE

SO SHUT IT

[timid quartz]

Two of my friends who live together fight over AC cause one of them from Puerto Rico or somewhere like that wants the AC set to 78F at night

Says it’s more comfortable

[spare quartz]

My parents do that

Only after literal months of fighting with them, even threatening to lock the AC, had I got them to accept 72 F

But I think they just forfeited and got an AC for their own room, and let me have the central AC

Really the worst part is the humidity though

It’s really high here

[timid quartz]

mfw I live in the southeast

[spare quartz]

I had to keep my mom from opening the windows since there isn’t any wind forecasted, and the humidity just makes everything worse

[timid quartz]

I love 90%+ humidity

[spare quartz]

It’s just uncomfortable

[timid quartz]

(That was sarcasm)

[spare quartz]

Especially with absolutely no circulation

Dumb cat

Stop looking everywhere and being autistic

[timid quartz]

68F-72F is the only acceptable range

[spare quartz]

68 F is a little too cold (power cost wise) imo

I’d accept 60 F if you could sustain it here without crippling bills

[timid quartz]

68F is lovely but usually only during winter

[spare quartz]

The only part about winter I dislike is the heating

Like it’s necessary and I get that, but for some reason my eyes are super sensitive to heat changes

so although I feel fine my eyes feel like they’re on burning ice

[timid quartz]

ughhhhh

I’m so tired I could sleep a horse

[spare quartz]

SLEEP

[timid quartz]

No u

[spare quartz]

CAT

STOP TRTING TO OPEN THE WINDOWS

YOO CANT DRIVE A XAR

[timid quartz]

stop talking to yourself atp

[spare quartz]

TAHTS HER

[timid quartz]

りもすり

[spare quartz]

さ？

[timid quartz]

Yeah I can’t tell

[spare quartz]

no,,,

idk,,,

[timid quartz]

Considering す is in hiragana

Perhaps り

[spare quartz]

Car AC try to be 68 F challenge

(it keeps overshooting it to be a lot colder)

[timid quartz]

Wow this thing has AC?

I need a newer model car damn

[spare quartz]

Really decent AC too

It’s had a bit of electrical system issues though

[timid quartz]

my car does have a heating and massage function but that’s about it

[spare quartz]

Like 2 years ago the engine control unit just started restarting on and off throughout the day

Not in any dangerous capacity, it lasted a second at max, but freaky when it did

[timid quartz]

I think those come standard on most cars

[lone sky]

@spare quartz dude i was told to go to sleep

but i'm not tired

i'll go model some stuff™

[spare quartz]

KONKON TOZAI OKITSUN-
shut up

[lone sky]

https://tenor.com/view/neuron-activation-neuron-gif-1455356329209493514

[spare quartz]

What’s your car

[timid quartz]

You should model that

[spare quartz]

I don’t know anything about cars but, even my dads old jeep had an AC

[lone sky]

i had something else in mind

which will not be shared for privacy purposes

[timid quartz]

Uhhh I think 2018 shorthair American tabby, not 100% sure on the year cause I got it from a friend

[spare quartz]

CAR!!!

AUTOMOBILE!!

[timid quartz]

Yes that’s my car

[spare quartz]

that is a CAT…

not the industrial machine kind though

[timid quartz]

This is my car

She has a weird obsession with freshly-worn shoes

[spare quartz]

Ow ow ow fuck

[timid quartz]

Might be a factory defect

[spare quartz]

Cat sreacged my arm really bad after falling

… surprisingly no visible scratch though, it just hurts really bad

[timid quartz]

OK I’m going to bed I’m very very tired

[spare quartz]

You should’ve like 4 hours ago..

ばか

[timid quartz]

bye stinkers

[lone sky]

bye aera

[spare quartz]

Bye aeration

[pastel tinsel]

😭

[spare quartz]

yeah alright I think I’ll do it

instead of getting a laptop I’ll just get a battery

just gotta wait for money

[spare quartz]

https://fixupx.com/linaposting/status/1941894907225911638?s=46

lina 🇵🇸🇦🇲 (@linaposting)

mp4 and mkv files cannot have viruses are you stupid

Quoting Sp1dder (@Sp1dder2day)
︀
Saying this like piracy isn’t the number 1 way to get a virus. We are all in hell

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FixupX · Jul 6, 2025, 4:19 PM

[rustic vine]

thats true mp4s can't have viruses

its not in the spec

so its not possible

[spare quartz]

went on the ffmpeg cves just for shits n giggles

[rustic vine]

u get power yet

[spare quartz]

they have so many ones pertaining to memory leaks and integer overflows

[spare quartz]

well the house does but I’m not there

[rustic vine]

oh what

why not

WAIT UR OUTSIDE??

[spare quartz]

I’m at someone else’s house who has power

[rustic vine]

WTH

[spare quartz]

Completely by myself

[rustic vine]

wait u know people who u can crash at

thats crazy

considering that

[spare quartz]

my mom does

[rustic vine]

apparently u dont go outside

oh

lol ok

[spare quartz]

this house is DEFINITELY from richer people than us too

[rustic vine]

SQUAT

become a squatter

[spare quartz]

can’t

I need my computer…

[rustic vine]

lol

[spare quartz]

thankfully the Bread Server Lib physically can’t 🙏

[rustic vine]

bsl

be stupid lib

[spare quartz]

死

[rustic vine]

k

MODS

[spare quartz]

Disassembling a laptop only to see

It’s soldered on…

[lone sky]

...fuck soldered memory btw

[spare quartz]

Well

I don’t need to give a fuck to anything

Since I just killed the laptop

[lone sky]

@timid quartz OH MY GOD

[spare quartz]

Cause … I broke one of the transformers in the middle of the board (battery is still fine)

I’m gonna take out the M.2 and prepare myself for what I have to tell my mom

[lone sky]

can't you

[spare quartz]

Also my hand has mad bruising

[lone sky]

replace that

somehow

[spare quartz]

I can’t solder, and you order PCB transformers in bulk

The only option would be to take it to a repair shop, but this thinkpad was already broken enough

I think they should just get a new laptop

[rustic vine]

Transformer?

On a pcb... in a laptop? Never heard of that, what's it for?

[spare quartz]

my bad, inductor

got a wrong look at it

https://5.imimg.com/data5/SELLER/Default/2024/4/412649843/IY/XL/YT/2247415/pcb-mounted-transformers.jpeg

heres some PCB mounted transformers, they can look awfully similar to an inductor

anyways the battery is fine, at least… so I’m keeping that too

[rustic vine]

oh ok

ye that makes more sense

you can definitely get them at a reasonable price

smd soldering is not that hard, and inductors are fat so it shouldn't be too bad

if you wanna do it make sure to get some practice in first tho

[spare quartz]

Well the thing is I don’t have any way to solder either, and I don’t even know IF that inductor is the problem

I just know it specifically is on fire when given power

[rustic vine]

did u knock it off?

[spare quartz]

no

[rustic vine]

oh

like it heats up?

[spare quartz]

it burns

[rustic vine]

start by replacing that then

u can also measure the voltage drop across it

[timid quartz]

LOL YES YOU GOT IT

KRIS. I AM NEVER [[Doing that]] AGAIN.

[lone sky]

@timid quartz oh ok

now my real question is

does wine just casually have full access to audio devices

[spare quartz]

Kill death murder

[spare quartz]

No, my dad did

[spare quartz]

it has id3.....

[spare quartz]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/1941728819813155062

ja-hamon 🪓 (@hoodheresies07)

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FixupX · Jul 6, 2025, 5:20 AM

[flint belfry]

🔔

[pastel tinsel]

the bathroom device

🔔

[spare quartz]

• E: Extension
• S: Sign
• D: Data
  ESDDDDDD
EDDDDDDD

BSL extensible long V2:

• E: Extension
• L: Length (1-indexed, addressing range 1 .. 15)
• S: Sign
• D: Data
  ELLLSDDD 3
  ...
  DDDDDDDD 120*
  maximum addressable range without extension: 123 bits

now to write it...

[timid quartz]

me when u128

[spare quartz]

thats what the extension bit is for

[timid quartz]

yawn

[spare quartz]

it can address 4 bits - 1 for one single extensible long instance

[timid quartz]

y a w n

[spare quartz]

and at 0b1111 (ELLL) it becomes a conjoined long

[spare quartz]

ugh shut up. you went to get educated and whatever and im doing my research without allat

go design your own packed formats mr smarty pants

[spare quartz]

n = 1
v1: 6, 13, 20, 27, 34, 41, 48, 55, 62, 69 [6 + ((n-1) * 7)]
v2: 3, 11, 19, 27, 35, 43, 51, 59, 67     [(3 * (1 + floor(n / 14))) + ((n-(1 + floor(n / 14))) * 8)]
...
n = 15
v1: 104
v2: 110
...
n = 30
v1: 209
v2: 225

off some rough math v2 will be even efficient at the (very) higher end, where i expected it to begin to faulter

[timid quartz]

we did it’s called ieee 754

among other things

[spare quartz]

inaccuracy:

this format is integer based, and you could just have a very large extensible long for any precision decimal

[timid quartz]

mmmm nah

where does your format tell you to place the decimal hmm

[spare quartz]

have you

never used fixed point decimal before

thats determined by the program

[timid quartz]

I have but fixed point is not 754

[spare quartz]

i never said it was?

[timid quartz]

mmmk

[spare quartz]

i said 754 was inaccurate

fixed point is what BSL v2 does for decimals

[timid quartz]

Yes because good luck doing a floating point without inaccuracy

[spare quartz]

duh

but the point of this format is for perfect accuracy since

its for compressed numerical representations like in our banked logging

[timid quartz]

meh perfect accuracy is overrated

[spare quartz]

id like to see you index log entry 45.2394235224928528191014184

[timid quartz]

I’d like to ask why you’re using decimals for log entries

[spare quartz]

BUT now that you mention it

[spare quartz]

well you brought up floating points, im saying what they'd cause

[spare quartz]

an extensible long (v1/v2) can both represent any-precision floats

sign / mantissa is already in the format, you just need the exponent

[timid quartz]

Ok but you’d never get that problem cause you’d never index log entries with a float

[spare quartz]

then why bring up ieee 754 if they aren't even the point of this format

use your brain

[timid quartz]

cause you said packed format

[spare quartz]

floating point is not packed

[timid quartz]

754 is a packed number

[spare quartz]

are you mad

its a scaled format

[timid quartz]

You’re packing exponent sign and mantissa into 32 bits

:3

[spare quartz]

yeah but you're still representing every single zero even at the MSB

0000000000000000000001 could be a perfectly fine mantissa

ergo... not packed

its scaled

[timid quartz]

blah blah blah

[spare quartz]

go back to school

[timid quartz]

you say you hate cs students but here you are being a cs student

[spare quartz]

im NOT

im doing my own hard cold thinking and research.

[timid quartz]

Yes you are :3

Anyways bed

[spare quartz]

(hopefully forever)

https://fixupx.com/ParukoRefrain/status/1942026508979085631

Paruko (@ParukoRefrain)

I am begging people who don’t know anything about cybersecurity to stop talking about cybersecurity
︀︀
︀︀malware isn’t the flashy junk you saw in the 90’s anymore
︀︀
︀︀most malware nowadays run in the background harvesting session IDs and passwords from your computer

Quoting Cole Netscape (@aryanblackgirl)
︀
Computer viruses are such a non entity in 2025 I don’t know where all these zoomers who are concerned trolling about viruses came from.

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FixupX · Jul 7, 2025, 1:02 AM

saw "cybersecurity" mentioned

day ruined

[timid quartz]

wait so what about one of your fancy integers where 001 could be valid data

Doesn’t seem very packed to me…

[spare quartz]

the MSB of an extensible long* is infinity bits

3 bits is pretty good over infinity

[timid quartz]

but that’s not different than 754 where the mantissa is bounded

[spare quartz]

could you rephrase that? i dont know what you're trying to say

(nearly) all computers define 4 types of floating points, they are by definition bounded

[timid quartz]

If 001 qualifies as packed then how does 000000….01 (cba to write all the bits) not

[spare quartz]

because the mantissa is bounded, and the MSB is at a finite range

because its always a fixed range, no matter the magnitude, it will always be "unoptimal"

[timid quartz]

mm ok I get it

[spare quartz]

packing wise, that is

[timid quartz]

basically you’re a bigger nerd than me

:3

[spare quartz]

nuh uh

i just mess around with binary too much

[timid quartz]

BYE NERD

[spare quartz]

send bayachao

sigh

nows the part where i have to stop doing basic arithmetic though

and have to actually use shifting........

[spare quartz]

preliminary results

almost completely as expected

moderately worse at the start (on the order of dozens to a few thousand bytes) to better than longs at the highest end (where they should be equal, but i chalk this up to randomness)

of course, this isnt the most optimal, theres still a sign bit being written by how bigintegers work, so i need to see what i can do to get rid of it

[spare quartz]

higher efficiency sign bit dropping

[timid quartz]

“the slowest compiler in the world” mfw incremental compilation

[spare quartz]

The slowest compiler in the world

[timid quartz]

still the best compiler in the world

[lone sky]

last point making itself clear!

📡

[timid quartz]

👎

everyone else is just mad they can’t be rust

[lone sky]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-delta-rune-spam-ton-spamton-tenna-gif-11833576829956069319

[devout musk]

are we still glazing rust

[spare quartz]

no we’re hating it

[devout musk]

i see

[proud creek]

Fr

[devout musk]

ok i might sound stupid but what is rust really used for

[timid quartz]

it tends to be marketed more as a systems programming language but you could use it for anything

and yes we're always glazing rust because it deserves the glaze ❤️

[spare quartz]

extension added

now we'll DEFINITELY never run out of log entries

[timid quartz]

I will make sure to flood your log

5 million entries every millisecond

[spare quartz]

thats the funny part

the maximum addressable space is infinity

[timid quartz]

ok but your maximum disk is...not infinity :3

[spare quartz]

we'll make it infinite

CIRCULAR BUFFER TIME!!!!!

[timid quartz]

mhm yeah sure

100% full, 100% usage on writes

[spare quartz]

get out of my codevs computer

[timid quartz]

rust users: ❤️

[spare quartz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/705583014805241896/1142605069498466394/rapidsave.com_4fma5pt5a01b1.gif

[spare quartz]

hmm

i wonder if i made an fs using this

how it would be represented

cause for example btrfs

[devout musk]

i see

thats pretty interesting

[timid quartz]

https://youtube.com/shorts/gKwXmoo3ElQ?si=wKM8iq0nPG1dBgcw

[lone sky]

real

i'm literally here in my living room boiling alive

[lone sky]

@spare quartz @timid quartz DUDE

I UNPLUGGED MY LAPTOP

AND IT INSTANTLY WENT TO

95% BATTERY

I SHIT YOU NOT

[devout musk]

average gaming laptop

[timid quartz]

ew c#

[timid quartz]

lmao gg

[timid quartz]

used for web stuff too

[devout musk]

hmm interesting

[spare quartz]

listening to music at 4x

my ears hurt

[devout musk]

but why would you use rust for web apis though?

i get it for embedded/networking cause of speed / safety

[timid quartz]

fast, no gc, very type safe

[devout musk]

hmmm

[timid quartz]

lower memory use

[devout musk]

do you think it's worth learning for web apps? cause tbh i don't see a lot of people using rust for web apps

mostly javascript/typescript/python etc

[rustic vine]

No

[timid quartz]

if you're wanting to do frontend then I'd say no, stick with typescript

[rustic vine]

Is it worth learning in general? Yes

[timid quartz]

if you're wanting to do backend then it's a good pick

[devout musk]

hmm okay

[rustic vine]

For the express purpose of making a website? You're handicapping yourself

[devout musk]

cause right now im mostly focused on node.js

for backend wise at least

[timid quartz]

use deno or bun

[spare quartz]

id suggest something other than node.js_

[rustic vine]

Give it a few more years. Decade or 2 maybe

[devout musk]

yea im trying to get off of node.js

but their libraries are really helpful

[timid quartz]

bun > deno >>>>>> node

[rustic vine]

Libraries?

[timid quartz]

both bun and deno can work with npm libraries

atp: "just dont use libraries"

[rustic vine]

Isn't nodejs just a runtime

[devout musk]

npm libraries*

[rustic vine]

Thats unrelated to nodejs no?

I heard bun still had pain points tho

[devout musk]

hmm okay i'll look into that after im done my current project

[devout musk]

i'm not too sure im not that diverse in webdevelopment yet

[rustic vine]

Neither am I

[devout musk]

but yea im trying to branch out from node js just to see around

ive been stuck with this stupid ass react + node.js (express) stack for a while now

[timid quartz]

mm havent kept up with it recently but I'd imagine it's gotten better since the last time I used it

deno is the choice though if you're worried abt pain points

[rustic vine]

I just remember someone complaining about it being touted as the next greatest thing but still had a bunch of places where it didnt work well or if at all I think

[spare quartz]

creating a circle might be the hardest challenge ive ever faced...

[spare quartz]

"gun toiletか？"

[rustic vine]

jap prob has that

dude a friend of mine used to have

a japanese made toilet

it had like 40 buttons

and a handheld remote

and like 20 doohickey devices inside the toilet

[spare quartz]

im watching a japanese guy play aperture desk job right now

gun toilet is forever in my vocabulary now

[rustic vine]

im sorry for your loss

[spare quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/cirno-hatred-kiryu-kiryu-kazuma-yakuza-gif-3361761317354543613

[devout musk]

damn

im reading the Stripe docs rn and

[rustic vine]

wth is stripe

[devout musk]

its my first time seeing a " copy for LLM" button

[devout musk]

payments processor

[rustic vine]

huh

what u doing with that

[devout musk]

just checking it out

[rustic vine]

oh ok

ask about the page

[devout musk]

yea

i hate how Google drive tried to implement AI into their shit

i thought it was able to help me through creating new folders and stuff

turns out all it can do is repeat the documentation back to me

[lone sky]

ok wait

that gave me a terrible idea

you know that one game by a person I will not name

that uses electron

[timid quartz]

good luck getting it to run

[lone sky]

rude.

[timid quartz]

no?

it's true lol

I don't think electron plays well with anything that's not node.js lol

[lone sky]

fair

[spare quartz]

if you mean ntot

it can run in the browser with very very minimal changes

if you mean devilconnection

same thing (with a little more ompf)

[timid quartz]

in the browser does not necessarily equate to using deno or bun instead of node

[spare quartz]

yeah its easier

[timid quartz]

rlly?

ntot working in the browser (specifically chromium) makes sense because both node and chromium use v8

[spare quartz]

the browser is "the base set" for most js (with some asterisks with chrome)

[timid quartz]

and deno might too so it could work

bun uses webview though

[spare quartz]

it works on WebKit too

[timid quartz]

rlly...

hmm ok it might work then'

[spare quartz]

firefox too, but i think a little more issues

[timid quartz]

at least it doesnt use kotlin then it would NEVER run ANYWHERE else RAAAAH

[spare quartz]

you can run ntot on your iphone, its just quite laggy

if it used kotlin it'd run EVERYWHERE

Kotlin/JS <3

[timid quartz]

le false

kotlin/js 👎

[spare quartz]

rust/js 🤮 (non existent)

rust/wasm 🤮 (worse than kotlin/wasm)

[timid quartz]

kotlin/jvm is the most well supported and I'd imagine anything else has very little support at best

[spare quartz]

false

[lone sky]

@timid quartz idea

just out of spite port ntot to tauri

<33

[spare quartz]

kotlin is as well supported on other platforms as it is on jvm

its just different libs on top of the kotlin stdlib

[timid quartz]

https://neon-rs.dev/ ❤️
and rust/wasm is peak

[spare quartz]

(with an exception to kotlin/wasm which is experimental iirc)

(all suck compared to BSL x86 assembler though 💪💪)

[timid quartz]

ok atp you know things about 3d modeling right

[spare quartz]

barely but sure

[timid quartz]

oh ok

uh

well

I have this right now (it's meant to be a lever once it's done)

HOWEVER

[lone sky]

aera

your lever sucks.

session terminated.

[timid quartz]

im trying to add these details

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/986697710298083399/1391497485603700756/image.png?ex=686d6e05&is=686c1c85&hm=9915aa7934264fcb5380d1c300f67b991494b8c64bd8dcb58a3a6134ed3869ed&

[lone sky]

oh lol

[timid quartz]

I cannot really figure out how to add the circle things

[lone sky]

yeah then you're doing good

[timid quartz]

im not doing the wire terminals though

[lone sky]

boolean modifier

probably

[spare quartz]

boolean modifier

[timid quartz]

a wha

what is a boolean modifier

[spare quartz]

its in the wrench tab of an object

(iirc)

click add modifier or what have you

and select Boolean

[timid quartz]

oh this is literally a union

so I'd take a cylinder and union it??

[spare quartz]

well a union is just a subset of a boolean

but yeah

select subtraction

[timid quartz]

there's gotta be a better way

[spare quartz]

i mean

you can create your own tris...

and extrude into the part... for each...

blenders CSG is much more refined than roblox

[timid quartz]

all ik about roblox's csg is this

[spare quartz]

cant wait for bsl v4.0.0....

probably in the next 2 months cause v2* ended at like minor version 59

what would even be major version worthy

[timid quartz]

switching from kotlin to rust ❤️

[spare quartz]

no real benefit found for rust

[timid quartz]

All real benefit found for rust, immediate switch mandated

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/Iq1KviQVSew

[timid quartz]

I cant understand the funny squiggly line speak

[spare quartz]

your brain is too demented from writing rust

[timid quartz]

ive been off the japanese grind for so long

[timid quartz]

Stallman when he first learned about Kotlin

[timid quartz]

Even the SST devs are saying this 😭

[spare quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/blender-3d-model-modeling-spin-gif-27464124

[lone sky]

@timid quartz wait a second

so

you see how we going on maintenance in a bit

[timid quartz]

yes

you’ll probably have to figure out what life without this chat for 24h looks like

[lone sky]

worry not

I have a solution

it's called: ATP's dms

[timid quartz]

Fuck kinda app is this

[spare quartz]

hmm

idea for faster parsing (opportunistic selective parsing)

need to write flac parser before thinking about it

[timid quartz]

My solution is just not using Discord while I’m at work tomorrow lol

[spare quartz]

why dont you guys just code

[timid quartz]

I’m at work dummy

[spare quartz]

okay

code

you have time

[timid quartz]

not always

[spare quartz]

you always have time

[timid quartz]

nope

[spare quartz]

log on to github

and write code

[timid quartz]

I can’t always do that

[spare quartz]

you can at work

[timid quartz]

no

[spare quartz]

proof

[timid quartz]

I don’t work in SWE

[spare quartz]

こいつさては腱鞘炎だな？（原因：最大尊敬やりすぎ）

[timid quartz]

half of my job is running around to other people who need help with their computers

[spare quartz]

code on their computers

[timid quartz]

why don’t you code on your brain

[spare quartz]

i do

thats what thinking is

[timid quartz]

you have neuralink in your brain?

damn

that explains a loooot

[spare quartz]

can you not visualize code in your head or something

[timid quartz]

no atp I meant literally run a JVM on your brain

[spare quartz]

that is not what you said

go back to being a lowly it person

[timid quartz]

I said code on your brain

[spare quartz]

yes

i do code in my brain

[timid quartz]

not in

on

[spare quartz]

hmmm

[timid quartz]

your brain is the processor

[spare quartz]

ill reserve that for bsl v5

左手人差し指だから最大尊敬の5Bはかろうじてできる

[timid quartz]

the “lowly it person” when your internet and computer don’t work

[spare quartz]

me being able to do both of things:

go help karen with her windows problem

[timid quartz]

I’d like to see you go to your isp and fix your internet lol

[spare quartz]

dude ive literally comtemplated calling my codevs isp for reverse dns authority 😭

[timid quartz]

do it

[spare quartz]

cant

they'll sue him

[timid quartz]

for asking???

[spare quartz]

they already emailed him about legal action for running our stuff on his network

[timid quartz]

oh lmfao get trolled nerdge

[spare quartz]

die

[timid quartz]

just use some kind of encrypted relay so the isp can’t see the traffic

[spare quartz]

okay but then we can't run anything of ours

[timid quartz]

yeah you can

[spare quartz]

we can't

maven doesn't like that

plus his ip would still be a "server"

[timid quartz]

but they can’t see the traffic

[spare quartz]

irrelevant

[timid quartz]

get a better dependency system

[spare quartz]

our traffic was already encrypted

they still know

[timid quartz]

they probably saw the ports

[spare quartz]

switching to different ports is not an option

[timid quartz]

and the fact that it was outgoing to many IPs

[timid quartz]

so send all your traffic encrypted using one port to one IP (your encrypted relay) and have your relay handle it

shrimple

[spare quartz]

okay but it doesn't work like that

[timid quartz]

it literally does tho

[spare quartz]

we can't just expect everyone to have that sort of infrastructure and also to know where to send stuff like DNS to

[timid quartz]

it’s a vpn

[spare quartz]

we dont want a vpn

why would we have public infrastructure in the first place if we put it under a vpn?

[timid quartz]

then have fun getting sued or buy an actual server with an actual server ip

[spare quartz]

yeah

me

AT&T is fine with me running the servers

https://breadexperts.group/videos/L3oaxlPx1jc_あさやけもゆうやけもないんだ☆.mp4

[timid quartz]

while your infrastructure is behind the vpn, your exit node(s) allow it to be public

[spare quartz]

?

[timid quartz]

not if I send a bunch of traffic to your ip

[spare quartz]

they're fine with that

my network environment is already extremely active from scanners

[timid quartz]

client <-(clearnet)-> vpn exit node <-(encrypted on one port)-> server

[spare quartz]

explain where this exit node would come from

[timid quartz]

you buy a server and host it

or use your ip

[spare quartz]

reliance on an external service

horrible idea

reliance on a computer across the country

horrible idea

[timid quartz]

then have fun getting sued

[spare quartz]

AT&T you idiot

[timid quartz]

nope you’re getting sued

[spare quartz]

uh huh

go refill james coffee cup

[timid quartz]

I’ll call AT&T myself

[spare quartz]

and tell them what

[timid quartz]

everything.

[spare quartz]

that doesnt mean anything

it literally isnt anywhere in their terms of service that you cant run a server

aviutl is incredibly big in japan

need to figure out why

[timid quartz]

They could get you with this

[spare quartz]

"no resale"

i.e. dont make an isp off residential lines

we do not resale internet

[rustic vine]

aera the type of guy to read the entire terms of service

no hate tho 😁

[spare quartz]

i had to read mine just to doubly make sure

[rustic vine]

u probably should, but its so ridiculously long and lawyer-y on purpose to discourage u from reading it

super anti consumer

🙁

[spare quartz]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/1942186130289627323

ゴーダ (@goda_kazunto)

@DaTa_jp 低空から散布するとさらに凄いことに…

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FixupX · Jul 7, 2025, 11:37 AM

gonna do this to all rust users

[timid quartz]

They do also have separate “consumer” and “business” sections in some parts so I don’t doubt that AT&T could come after you for non-residential IP use

[spare quartz]

well what we're doing isn't "non-residential"

they gave us a static ipv4 address and ipv6 block, have not put us under a CGNAT, and do not prevent server operations on residential fiber lines

[timid quartz]

if your codev’s ISP came after them for the services you’re running on your IP then AT&T could come after you

[spare quartz]

thats because Spectrum specifically said

stuff like HTTP or multi-user forums are not allowed

[timid quartz]

gay

[spare quartz]

it is

[timid quartz]

I wonder what xfinity says about that

[spare quartz]

i hope he gets that new isp moved in soon

since their tos is a lot more lenient and also doesnt prevent server use

(and id hopefully have a better chance of getting whoever runs their DNS datacenter to give us reverse authority)

[timid quartz]

Mmmmm ok that’s a little vague but

Seems that I could host home email as long as I don’t send spam

[spare quartz]

about that

spectrum also did the disfavor of adding all of their residential IPs to an SMTP blocklist

[timid quartz]

LOL

[spare quartz]

so even if you did have a server, and had the proper DKIM/SPF, youd be untrusted by everyone

[timid quartz]

I mean most email servers don’t accept residential IPs anyways so

[spare quartz]

thats more due to the wrong reverse dns being used

[timid quartz]

now I’m curious to see if xfinity has done the same

email blocklists suck though because once your IP is on one it’s easier to get a new IP in a new block than get your original IP removed

[spare quartz]

AT&T on top since they dont do that 💪

[timid quartz]

me when I report your IP and get it blocked

[spare quartz]

(no proof)

[timid quartz]

(forged emails)

[spare quartz]

(the 9000000 internet scanners showing we dont run smtp:)

who

umm okay

[timid quartz]

LOL

hacked

[spare quartz]

totally

[lone sky]

LMFAO what

scamanje

"scam"

i'm not falling for dat shit ‼️

[spare quartz]

oh

i think its a malware stage

[timid quartz]

You got infected with malware

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1282764703944413226/1374306871497986068/caption.gif

ok bed bye

[spare quartz]

Thankfully it was written in Kotlin

[lone sky]

wdym

[spare quartz]

Google it

[lone sky]

did that just

open out of nowhere or smth

[spare quartz]

no it was in my logs

[lone sky]

oh

weird

oh ok so it's

some kind of botnet thing

apparently??

https://app.threat.zone/submission/584a451c-44d2-4e59-b7a1-e20148d082d7/static-scan-report/unpacked-data

[pallid loom]

I'd let her drive

[lone sky]

truth

i could trust a cat driving

[lone sky]

@timid quartz

[timid quartz]

Finally

Inner peace

[timid quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/301332628454506496/1379554905726914731/IMG_8084.png?ex=686f7760&is=686e25e0&hm=299e0acbcf1b09c582371ebfab27b1eef4ac2d2401283252ffea7d2a0976a902&

[lone sky]

die

[lone sky]

@timid quartz

[spare quartz]

BSL for file conversion… soon

https://fixupx.com/jaxonloid/status/1942921692709290041?s=46

Jaxonloid (@jaxonloid)

‘When everything supports it’ bro I haven’t came across a single fucking software that opens a webp file correctly 😭
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Quoting eri | 🦋 eri.nijika.dev (@eepyeri)
︀
complaining about webp in the big 25 when everything supports it and its half the size of a png 💔
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FixupX · Jul 9, 2025, 12:20 PM

I hate this WebP hate 💔

[lone sky]

webp slander is bullshit

[timid quartz]

SO TRUE nothing supports webp

[spare quartz]

ugh but people bully the format when it’s not its fault

and the amount of people whining over “but it’s only 40 kB” less like

mf do you know how huge 40 kB is

oh yeah forgot to say

our parsers now use a LazyPartialResult (a Result that can also have an exception stapled to it + lazily computed)

[rustic vine]

@blazing garden what did you not like about it? full disclosure, I've not used it or seen it myself

and what is scripting school?

[spare quartz]

i assume https://www.roblox.com/games/6557769953/Scripting-School

[blazing garden]

I just don't like how it explains things

It feels like it's rushing into everything rather than actually explaining what a command does

[blazing garden]

and yeah, Scripting School is a game on Roblox

[spare quartz]

wdym by command

a function call (ex. print)?