#💽Programming Chat v2
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I never really got to know them at all tho
The Rust Foundation
worst company
or well you might think JetBrains is good
indifferent
cause they support your beloved Copelin
❌
JVM Copelin
yes
wth
nvm then
I been seeing them around the whole time
I thought it was someone else with the same profile picture the entire time loool
"Amming"
eugh semantically analyzing ada seems like a pain
this rust user is illiterate
okay but why
intellij just better
well those people are weird and possibly need help
LOL
tbf tho I also use vscode for java on occasion
but hear me out
its only when the project has java and some other language
usually cpp
that way I can switch between java n cpp files without switching editors
thank you for reminding me
I'd probably have to start from like...Ada 89
and build my way up
i need to complete our x86 assembler in kotlin so i dont have to ask codev to compile the iso for me
very incomplete state its in rn
@spare quartz what do u think
or could I jump straight to Ada 2012
ada 80
Ada 80...cringe...
okay but thats the true start
building up semantic analysis and stuff seems painful
why can't I just start from Ada 2020
if you think you can... sure
guys... stop using an irrelevant language...
^ real
you're irrelevant
good take harry
use rust! its the new and shiny!!
its actually pretty rusty
but fwiw cae is around often in that roblox oss server
rust ❤️
I always thought it was just a rando with the same pfp
I gotta admit though parts of Ada's type system are pretty nice
terrifying
I wish Rust had those parts in it
agreed!
i hate roblox dev servers cause they scaaaaare me
also because theres probably a ton of religious devs there who'll bully me unironically 😭
maybe. maybe not
idk they all have education and scary stuff like that
not really tbh
some do
shintoist roblox dev server
but also you can just define your own type
struct OddU32 {
inner: u32
}
impl OddU32 {
pub fn new(val: u32) -> Self {
assert!(val % 2 != 0);
Self {
inner: val
}
}
}
classified
but also you can just define your own class
this is some java pilled response
fr
classes are the only future
sorry you had to hear it this way
as expected of a Copelin user
😭
classes are the past
nope
(require '[clj-http.client :as client])
(-> (client/get "https://example.com")
:body
println)
clojure
i dislike the abstraction of client/get
y
because i just dont like it
y
httpprotocolselector better
y
kYs
y
im going to send japanese french dog
answer with n if you're a domestic terrorist
bruh
n
ohhhhh if only I could have my HTTPProtocolSelectionStrategy
can you send it to me
You need an HTTPProtocolSelectionStrategyFactory for that
OH
and an HTTPProtocolSelectionStrategyFactoryBuilder
the tiny @lyric mesa
and then an HTTPProtocolSelectionStrategyFactoryBuilderSingleton
wha?!
☣️
aer hasn't noticed
?
what did cupya do
scroll up
nothing but theyll do something
WHAT
hes right you know
being a Rust user does NOT make me a domestic terrorist
yeah it does
ok Ada user
based
go get locked up for eternity
That's what a domestic terrorist would say
oh mb
oh true
bro you're literally Croatian I don't wanna hear it
LOL
hey we don't bomb people at least
we can't afford it
they use mechanics
yeah they use Ada because your lang is so bad they decided it had to blow up at every opportunity it could
half of laser guided still use an old ass system
nuh uh
bombs use raspbian
bombs actually use specially trained pigeons
aw hell anw
ukraine drone strikes
it is truly fascinating how most innovations from the 1950s in the us have been or will be used in the military
WE LOVE DEATH
they should put 99% of the funding to darpa
then they can make internet 2 or something
0.001% to education
(the 1% goes to the naval research laboratory)
our food just keeps blowing up
rest goes to trump's piss dome
just remembered that I've never said a curse word in my life
even in the fog of war a tank is still visible
translation
"I fuck your mothers"
van matter?
be van matter?
"jebem vam mater"
Same
barely recognisable
thats not a real language
just like Ada and Kotlin ❤️
eat
im so hungry i could eat a
いかにもナルシストって感じのヤツだな…
def emeraude then ruby then idk
here too
oh gg
pretty bold to call a japanese person google translate
:3
THAT'S SO BAD
l boz
:<
i say this as someone who IS out of chocolate
WRONG
chiharu
oh
izanari is cute i GUESS
code a jpg decoder!
it COULD be nice to have "convenience" commands like pause, resume, and restart
although the pid will change
I could add in a separate numbering scheme...then I'd really be pm2
pm2?
oh
like this
but it's written in javashit so
mmmmmmmmmmmm what to do
jpg decoder...maybe....
ada lsp....maybe but ugh ada semantic analysis....
the cover?
sure whatever
there's an order
optional comforter(top sheet(fitted sheet(optional mattress cover(mattress))))
if you want the layout relative to a human
well
with a human included in the mix
human goes between top sheet and fitted sheet
so in light of that...which sheet is hard to keep on
(probably the top sheet but)
okay so my matress has this cyan cover over it
and then theres this one inch thick blanket on top of it
which i lay on
and the one inch thick blanket likes to just
gradually keep going forward away from my pillows
do you...not cover yourself with another blanket?
does the cyan cover have like...how would I describe it
the corners of it
do they have like
elastic inside of them
idk i havent checked
its not my matress and its just been there for as long as i can remember
gg
well uh
interesting that your sheet goes away from your pillows
almost sounds like the cyan "cover" is the fitted sheet and the sheet you lay on top of is the top sheet
maybe i just move a lot idk
like I move around a lot but the issue I have is that the top sheet and comforter like slide off my bed
@spare quartz tbh if you’re having issues with it sliding away from your pillows, then take that sheet you sleep on top of, pull it up towards your pillows so that you have some hanging off of your mattress, and tuck what hangs off underneath the mattress
It won’t stop it but it’ll help a little
oh okay
Tuck it underneath the head of the mattress and underneath the sides too
If you wanna get really fancy, google how to do a “hospital corner”
its over..
your drill sergeant might explode you
what if theyre bayachao 🥺
you’re not entering the JSDF
sure
at least start running a little so you don’t die from doing a mile in 15 minutes in basic lmao
bayachaoooooo
hmm.. clusters..
god this is so painful
probab;y iteration 5 of the instruction set (migration wise)
not that bad..
so many instruction clusters...
go bed
You should make a SPARC64 simulator
id need a specification
so long
oh neoforge is down
time to cut off their line for now
yipee! I bet the forge dev DMCA’d them and got them banned from the internet
Awww it’s back https://neoforged.net/
its not
Yeah it is
aera what iphone do you use
14 pro
Deltarune ch 5
Out of soda?
The fault lies with you, debirun.
@timid quartz
rate the translations.......
arrayOf("apng_reader_spi_description", "アニメーションPNG(APNG)読み取りSPI"),
arrayOf("gif_reader_spi_description", "グラフィック交換様式(GIF)読み取りSPI"),
2/3 of it is just English
also these two i just wrote
well thats kinda cause
i have to
they're referred to in english
oh I was supposed to do that wasn't I
I will deploy the chinese soon
if you’d wanted to!
But first I nap.
Go back to bed
I’m not even off it yet!
kittby,,
das me
no .
you
catroid better
Why don’t you go back to bed
Stop being employed
Na
be a neet
How will I afford to wipe bayachao off the face of the internet if I have no job
Her job is her art
By herself :3
I wish I programmed at my job
SWE jobs are next to impossible to get
Lammme
I’m gonna go outside today
Social security… I need it…
Stepping outside won’t make you age 50 years in a day
Okay but I still need to go there
Ugh crap I accidentally unraveled my uniform socks
I hate being blind
You’re not old enough for social security
what if I’m actually 80 irl
AGHHH MY BACCCK
Gonna spend all that money on bayachao
@spare quartz what are your thoughts on mizzmanaged
who
huh
Tasque Manager and who
mhm
Bro what the L
never
it's because you're not 900 years old
Wwaahhhhh
@lone sky tamamo,,,
can you give me your social security benefits…
Waaaahhhh
なまむぎ。
なまむぎデスネーツ
I wonder if the issue with ada_langauge_server is libadalang being slow or the lsp itself being slow
I wager it’s just cascade failure
explain
And it gradually loses function until it needs to be reset
ic
Like internal errors build up until it’s just broken
yeah I understand now
hmm
maybe rewriting libadalang isn't necessary from the start
like it CAN be done and I might do it...but it might not be a prereq to making the lsp
L
listen
they already judge you cause you're young
don't worry about what they think
ok and
Well
They don’t seem to mind..
Like everyone in here is Hispanic so they’re actually fine people
NO??
Screens saying we can’t ask them for advice
💔
lmao
Yes

Except instead of a cat woman it’s a dog man

ugh lame
you might as well just forego the LSP entirely and rely only on the compiler
well GNAT has been in development since the 80-90s so
Of course it’d be more complete…
Well back in the day you didn’t even have rust
this is true
I’m on 5G so my reality is better than yours
im on a 10gbps uplink so my reality is better than yours
No you’re not
yuh huh
Nope
yep
too lazy
Liar.
yknow it's possible that als got better
Green for envious of the next generation 5G+ cellular plans by AT&T
possibly
But I wish they put it in IntelliJ
you can do that...
im sure an intellij plugin isnt hard to write
They’re so hard and difficult
It’s like eating glass shards
(Cause I don’t know what I’m doing and not a lot is documented)
bro ok idk if it's just because verizon has a chokehold on my state or what but at&t is kinda ass outside of major cities here
It’s probably cause they got a monopoly
Welcome to the modern telecommunications of the US
I mean they don't have a monopoly per se
you can still get other phone plans
it's not like broadband where you're basically limited to two
Idk where I’m at it’s basically only them here
here you can get verizon, at&t, tmobile, xfinity, whatever
it's just verizon is better especially out in the boonies
wtf is a boonie
what
That’s weird
no...you're weird
fromt
your stupd server dont work
o
nice google translate
Maybe after this ss visit I can ask my mom to buy those server components-
oo server components
THATS FROM A JAPANESE PERSON YOU
UGHH
No wonder you think Japanese people would make fun of you 😭
You’d keep calling them google translate
dang I only had to look up like 4 words in that
two of which I knew I just can't read
Bet you didn’t know what ASMR meant

hmm
knew my reality was better
@spare quartz idk try ada_lsp in vsc now
it seems to be a bit better
let's just clone extensible_http and see
You both have inferior realities
Too bad the lang itself sucks
@spare quartz how do you cross compile in Ada, like from Windows to Linux for example
You get a cross compile gnat
from alire I only see gnat_native, gnat_riscv64_elf, gnat_arm_elf, and gnat_avr_elf
you have to compile GCC
ough that's cringe
No
I know but the process of doing it is cringe
written in Kotlin
Coming soon.
👎
Yup
maybe write in in ada next time
Which means it’ll never fail and you’ll never need to recompile it
But mainly just so we can integrate it into our stuff without trouble
anyways with rust it's super easy
rustup target add <whatever>
cargo build --target=<whatever>
mad?
We have our own compiler
super duper easy
at least I dont gotta tear my hair out to cross compile
cross compiling gcc is genuinely such a pain
ada 👎
copelin 👎👎
your own lang 👎👎👎
yeah on top of the "worst langs ever" list
best experiment demonstrating why atp shouldn't be allowed to experiment*
tfdym ik how to make stuff
Nuh
I just...dont want to....
All you do is play YouTube shorts
it's painful...
It’s fun
I bet they use Kotlin
nah they probably use python
No!
carpool was kinda fun....but pain....
It’s cause you need to write more
95% of programmers stop before they have fun writing everyday
im sure gcc does the same stuff too
Compiler optimizations are an art form
fr
Rust isn’t though
Shitty ass lang
Shitty ass lang
You can build anything on your computer, just DONT let it be another TS project rewrite in Rust
Ew
such a great lang
Such an awful lang
Not innovative
Should’ve stopped at the invention of the JVM, since that was actually innovative
nah anyone could have come up with the idea for the jvm, and probably would have made it better
like look at the clr
so good
Yeah just like how anyone could’ve created a computer
No
damn
The brand is just a red word
a red word
I don’t know anything about cars so I’m helpless
I just assumed due to the dash that it was a ford
I drive one and it's pretty similar
not the American truck type though
(it is not this simple in my experience)
huh
it has been for me
aside from platform-specific apis
complains about missing linkers & openssl
which are fairly rare to have to deal with
huh
let's see
im on mac, gonna compile for x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
oh huh
yeah openssl
close ssl
lol.
Thanks Mr kornel
I think this may be a macos skill issue
^ I agree
MacOS is truly the OS of all time
I prescribe: 6 months of windows
Parallels*
wth is that
macOS windows virtualization software
oh ok so should be fixed in a few decades
good to know
WHAT THE FUCK
wha
@timid quartz @spare quartz MY IRL FRIEND INSTALLED ALL OF THE VISUAL STUDIO REDISTRIBUTABLES????
????????????????????????
I did too
Ngl
oh wth I posted this video before already
I forgot bruh
terrible memory
I agree, toy but cool
close enough
im curious what part(s) do you like abt it
Syntax mainly
I linked this the other day but heres a cool thing made in zig
https://tigerbeetle.com/
I haven’t done enough with it in any recency so I can’t describe much more than that
this is clutter
yea I've seen
apparently 0 runtime allocs
and provably safe
@spare quartz do i get rid of the clutter
Strange quark
C# 💪
Nooo
or do i clutter with the stuff from my desktop
more java than rust
😨
Awww
this guy has spaces in his folder names
average kotlin user btw
😨
How does that work
HE
no clue!
It’s physically impossible to have “no runtime allocs” so
I think u mean named like a nerd
I do wonder what they mean
sorry I think its nothing on the heap
everything is statically allocated onto the stack
Well stack allocation is still a thing… cool nonetheless
it might be that they don't allocate anything themselves at runtime
on the heap
-# and also those, but who cares??
ye thats what I meant mb
the zig model of heap allocations is interesting
idk how much you know about it, atp
yea their allocator pattern is
cool
I don't rlly know much tho
only watched people use and explain it
I know of its existence and it’s differentiation but not much more
It’s sorta similar to Ada’s from what I’ve seen
Just more discrete
basically all allocation is handled via a separate Allocator object
so like any function that needs heap allocation will take an allocator as a param
honestly I wish there was a rust but gc'd
ew no
Very similar to Ada’s then
no that'd be awesome
Ada’s method of allocation differential is based on the types though
ye but I want to prototype in a language with a gc
Storage_Pool
so I don't have to worry about when stuff gets freed
I mean use Go then? idk
Kotlin?
Fast writing
yea I guess. I just can't get away from python cuz everything supports it
literally everything has py bindings
👎 bad choice
JDK 21 introduced a mega powerful FFI
so that shouldn’t be a big issue dealing with JNI anymore
oh interesting ok
yea good point
we use it rn for FUSE related stuff (which I still need to stabilize)
despite not having used rust the syntax looks rather appealing
ちゃお!
honestly the most interesting thing I think is zig's comptime
code that gets evaluated and run at compile time
so having that syntax and a strong compiler and type system but not having to worry about lifetime and freeing stuff would honestly be awesome for prototyping
and scripting purposes
but alas it needs mass adoption to succeed anyway
so whatever
python it is
I hear Gos standard library isn’t very great in discreetness though
@timid quartz quick question
||is the chapter 3 secret boss that one black dude named whateverwhatever knight||
I hear go is... weird
Like coercion of FS permission flags into Unix style even on Windows
did you read the same article I did?? lol
Yeah
I don't think its changed
that was a few years ago tho
it got generics, but the generics are still clunky from what I heard
oh well. there are good languages and then there are languages that people use
||also oh, so that's what the S rank boards are for?? fuck my life then||
There are languages people complain about and there are languages nobody use
Yours is more positive
The sun burrrrnnnnss
I need my temperature controlled negative pressure room back
If you notice a foreign tourist in a Waffle House it is your American duty to start a fist fight to ensure they get the full experience.
Quoting 伊藤麻希 Maki Itoh (@maki_itoh)
︀
I went to Waffle House for the first time to see a fight but nothing happened 👎
it really is
@lone sky get chao in the US now.
BEAT HER ASS
BEAT HER ASS
BEAT HER ASS
Haiii debirunnn
hell yeah
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Making Fun of MLMs
Monat Satire
MLM Pyramid Scheme Comedy
Pretending to Be a Lawyer Bit
Hilarious MLM Prank
Comedy ...
mess with the jones u get the jones
yes however ||you fight that guy at the end of the chapter regardless, it's just that there's ANOTHER secret boss that you get from getting S or Z rank that makes fighting the boss at the end a lot easier||
||is it the shadow whatever the fuck item thing??||
||and to get to the other secret boss, you have to get S or Z rank on both boards -- you can get S on one and Z on the other, but both have to be either S or Z||
yes
sexcellent
.
お主は何者?ここは何処だ?
拙者の剣!拙者の剣は何処だ?
where is this from cuh
nah that should be tenna hitting spamtong
Fallout 3 dialogue
oh gg
It’s written in romanji so i tried with the kanji
何処 is definitely basically always written as どこ
I see
👎
the question is
what to work on..
- unit tests for x86?
- assembler for x86?
- BSL JPG?
- Breadmod networked cables?
no
oh that's right I can make a dns nanoclient
Network cables
y....
because i dont like rust
:(
i joke about calling it bad but personally i find it abhorrent to write in
syntax and program behavior model
elaborate on program behavior model
i find it easier to write programs when i can accurately visualize what the program in front of me is doing step by step, in rust i find that nearly impossible to do (syntax compounds atop that)
mm ic
I mean genuinely I think a large part of it is you just not being used to it
and since it departs from other langs in lots of ways it's harder to pick up
well because of that i dont think ill ever pick it up
:(
kotlin is just too comfortable to write in, ada/asm are too easy to visualize
am i wrong
switch to linux
no
i get its moderately unfair since this is our processor but
super easy to visualize what its doing in real time
or just looking at the asm
I mean in terms of what it's doing with the actual hardware, sure
it is though
at least for me it's harder to visualize the actual program though
like you can tell what its doing here
like
take a dns client for example
it would be harder to tell that a given asm program is a dns client
than it would be something in a "normal" lang
well thats just because of the extra steps you need to take
if you took the startup of any dns client, it wouldn't look like a dns client
in asm thats more pronounced cause you have to do more
but when you get to socket mgmt its more clear
I mean sure but I don't think it would be as clear as something written in Kotlin
so I'd say that for a lot of things, I don't think assembly is easy to visualize
now for low level ops sure
eg kernel stuff
cause you're doing stuff directly on the hardware and whatever
for this I'd really only say I can get an idea of what it's doing because your labels have decent names
if this was some like assembly generated with mangled names by a compiler I'd have a tough time telling you what it does
well if we stripped any lang of its symbols (closest to asm labels) it'd look as alien
reification 👎
eventually...
the CPU is so instruction dense its becoming a simulation accuracy challenge over raw count now
hey i meant it in the more literal sense
machine sends something to the network, it "stops existing" in the real world, and the network transfers it virtually per tick cycle, until its eventually at the destination and back into existence
network construction right now is pretty simple
ok but if not for kotlin you wouldn't have that word in your vocab lol
thats how experiencing things work yeah
if i didnt go to school i wouldn't know what the alphabet is either
bold choice using the worst in its field
deno is not the worst smh
how so
bun is probably more perf
I can't imagine that node is more perf
deno can also use node packages so richness isn't really an issue
the funny thing is bun literally advertises node is better than deno
wait
ohhhhhh 💀
a naive measure
@timid quartz mb
?
yes. lmfao
look
