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[spare quartz]

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FixupX · May 30, 2025, 2:40 PM

i wanna either live somewhere its stormy all the time or somewhere its freezing all the time ☹️

and im stuck in literal hell

[timid quartz]

how do

I add

stupid bsl

to projec

t

[spare quartz]

???

oh

you might be dumb

https://github.com/Bread-Experts-Group/http_router/blob/main/build.gradle.kts

[timid quartz]

i dont do GAYvm stuff normally

[rustic vine]

boy do I have the perfect place for you

[timid quartz]

esp including adding gaydle dependencies

[spare quartz]

just copy this all

except for my name

dont copy my legal name

[spare quartz]

that would be cool, but im not a scientist

[timid quartz]

https://107-132-83-172.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net/ wtf is this

[spare quartz]

so i'd probably be shipped away immediately

[spare quartz]

the provisional website due to legal problems

[rustic vine]

they were looking for a MSDOS developer a little while ago. I know cuz my friend was considering applying

[timid quartz]

wtf is a dokka

[spare quartz]

documentation

[lone sky]

@timid quartz mfw im threatened with "THE FBI WILL GET YOU." for joining a roblox game

/srs

[timid quartz]

lol dont play condo games?

[rustic vine]

u wouldn't think someone ada pilled would even KNOW what documentation is

[lone sky]

no???

[spare quartz]

thats true

[lone sky]

what the fuck aerasto

[spare quartz]

we have dokka but like

[rustic vine]

ye aera is right

[spare quartz]

none of our projects (except breadmod) has

[rustic vine]

hop off buddy

[spare quartz]

javadoc

[timid quartz]

withSourcesJar()

tf

[spare quartz]

?

[timid quartz]

what is this silly ass build system

[spare quartz]

a good one

[rustic vine]

gradle is better than maven

[spare quartz]

oh yeah you need GPG setup btw

[rustic vine]

that is all

[spare quartz]

oh yeah

oh y.eah

in order to use that gradle file in full youll

[timid quartz]

what is a

java {
  withJavadocJar()
  withSourcesJar()
}

[spare quartz]

actually need maven credentials...

🤮

[timid quartz]

for what

im just copying the maven repo config to pull

not to push

[spare quartz]

it compiles source and javadoc jars alongside the actual code

[rustic vine]

wait till u find out I'm building cpp with gradle

[timid quartz]

but...why would you want that

[spare quartz]

to build distributions you sign them

because its extremely useful in debugging

unless you want completely opaque sources

and useless stacks

[timid quartz]

yes :3

[spare quartz]

okay dont include sources then

[timid quartz]

ok but ssh key signing >>

[spare quartz]

okay then do that

[rustic vine]

all talk and no building

get to work!

[spare quartz]

true

[timid quartz]

no

[spare quartz]

we'll be having a meeting tomorrow, btw

[timid quartz]

besides who needs sources when the intellij debugger is right ther

[spare quartz]

uh

the intellij debugger.. cant debug kotlin.. without sources

like it literally just wont let you

[timid quartz]

ok but it handles that itself

[spare quartz]

no

[timid quartz]

ive never added soures like that

[spare quartz]

it literally can't

[spare quartz]

you cannot step into or introspect a function without sources

[rustic vine]

decompiler

😁

[spare quartz]

cant

[rustic vine]

huh

[spare quartz]

no decompiler for kotlin

[rustic vine]

why not

[spare quartz]

intellij wont let you

[rustic vine]

kt sucks

hop off kt

[spare quartz]

its funny cause

you can decompile a kotlin CLASS in an online decomp

[rustic vine]

its just java bruh how

[spare quartz]

but intellij just shows you stubs

[timid quartz]

TRUE

[rustic vine]

nerfed

[spare quartz]

LITERALLY

its their own fucking language

and they cant decomp right

[timid quartz]

kotlin is just nerfed java

[rustic vine]

fr

[timid quartz]

ok but riddle me this why have I never added sources but always been able to jump into functions with the intellij debugger

[spare quartz]

what were you debugging

[timid quartz]

idk let's take the unfinished irc thing

[spare quartz]

uh huh

[spare quartz]

what was in it

[rustic vine]

you are welcome for the motivational audio

[timid quartz]

im loading this shit rn

[timid quartz]

boom fuckin works

[spare quartz]

you might be an idiot

[timid quartz]

plugins {
    kotlin("jvm") version "2.1.20"
    application
}
kotlin {
    jvmToolchain(21)
}

group = "xyz.aerasto"
version = "1.0-SNAPSHOT"

application {
    mainClass = "xyz.aerasto.CircuitServerMainKt"
    applicationDefaultJvmArgs = listOf("-XX:+UseZGC", "-XX:+ZGenerational", "-Xmx256m", "-XX:SoftMaxHeapSize=128m")
}

repositories {
    mavenCentral()
}
dependencies {
    testImplementation(kotlin("test"))
}

tasks.test {
    useJUnitPlatform()
}
tasks.jar.configure {
    manifest {
        attributes(mapOf("Main-Class" to application.mainClass))
    }
    configurations["compileClasspath"].forEach { file: File ->
        from(zipTree(file.absoluteFile))
    }
}

no sources in sight

[spare quartz]

your IDE downloaded the BSL sources

from OUR site

[timid quartz]

the irc doesnt use bsl

dummy

[rustic vine]

BOOOOOOM baby

[spare quartz]

LITERALLY DOES

COLOREDLOGGER IS OUR SYSTEM

[timid quartz]

except I made it myself :3

[spare quartz]

okay

tell me

where is coloredlogger in your project?

WHERE is it area

[timid quartz]

right there

[rustic vine]

are u on mac

[timid quartz]

yes

[rustic vine]

macos

[spare quartz]

HAD YOU CONSIDERED

LOGGING.KT

IS A SOURCE FILE

[rustic vine]

those colors look really good on mac

idk why

[timid quartz]

ok but guess what

[spare quartz]

aera you're not cut out for the jvm

quit

quit while you're ahead

[timid quartz]

I don't have

java {
  sourceShit()
}

and it still works

[spare quartz]

oh my god

[timid quartz]

nerd

[spare quartz]

CAUSE THAT ONLY AFFECTS

PUBLISHED SOURCES

[lone sky]

sourceShit()

[spare quartz]

THAT PEOPLE USE AS DEPS

[timid quartz]

OK SAY THAT NEXT TIME

[spare quartz]

GRAHHH YOU'RE

SO DUMBBB

OF COURSE THATS HOW IT IS

https://tenor.com/view/rocket-shi-rocket-bomb-gif-26885344

[timid quartz]

THAT IS NOWHERE NEAR IMMEDIATELY OBVIOUS

SMH

[spare quartz]

OH MY GOD DUDE WHY WOULDN'T YOU BE ABLE TO DEBUG YOUR OWN SOURCES??!?!

😭

SHUT UP

[timid quartz]

im /gen not ragebaiting you though

[rustic vine]

me watching my taxes being used in 0.2 milliseconds on a training mission

[timid quartz]

you were just like "oh it includes sources so you can debug" but like

mfw

Ive never needed that

[spare quartz]

that missile had ada on it btw

worth

[rustic vine]

u shoulda known

uni boy

nvm i can't call u that

[spare quartz]

okay well personally

[timid quartz]

they dont teach gradle in intro to java bro

[spare quartz]

as a bsl developer

[rustic vine]

im also one

[spare quartz]

its super important okay

[rustic vine]

they teach maven

🫡

[spare quartz]

cs only teaches you woke stuff nowadays

💔

[rustic vine]

gradle is the woke stuff

[spare quartz]

no

maven is woke

[rustic vine]

how

[timid quartz]

more like the jvm SUCKS and NOBODY should be using it

[rustic vine]

also true

[spare quartz]

xml is such a queer concept

[spare quartz]

die

[rustic vine]

me when I have to do something but first I need to make a class then create an object

[timid quartz]

gcc -std=c89 -pedantic -Wall -Werr

[spare quartz]

LITERALLY GOOD DESIGN

[spare quartz]

this guy failed to compile gcc for 5 days straight btw

[timid quartz]

failed to cross compile it to sparc solaris2.10

[spare quartz]

bad design

[timid quartz]

gcc is a pain in the ass

[spare quartz]

cause its c

that wouldn't happen if it were jvm

[rustic vine]

-Ofast

[spare quartz]

NOT COMPLIANT

[rustic vine]

who cares

its fast

[spare quartz]

everyone!!!

[rustic vine]

gotta go fast

I have no time to deal with standards

[timid quartz]

jvm is worse

[spare quartz]

lebron james found agressively inlining

[rustic vine]

lebron james reportedly spotted using the 2nd argument to instance.new

[timid quartz]

this gradle.kts shit is so ass

[rustic vine]

groovy

[timid quartz]

just write shell scripts

[spare quartz]

kys

[timid quartz]

or Makefile

[spare quartz]

KYS

gradle is peak

[rustic vine]

its clear the real solution here is Fetch-Content

[spare quartz]

bayachao <3333333333

[lone sky]

ok food is almost here

[rustic vine]

no

its not

[lone sky]

玉藻前....

[rustic vine]

I diverted it

[lone sky]

🥺

[spare quartz]

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FixupX · May 30, 2025, 11:20 PM

[rustic vine]

its my food now

[spare quartz]

ada in the sky

[rustic vine]

can u explain why there was a blue on blue late 2024

was that powered by ada

[spare quartz]

yeah

ada told them to do it

[rustic vine]

damn ok

ada should be held accountable

[spare quartz]

this is what they get for delaying the specification publishing for Ada 2023

[lone sky]

something something

12 year olds when bald

[timid quartz]

wtf is this java library plugin

[spare quartz]

wdym

[timid quartz]

plugins {
    kotlin("jvm") version "2.1.10"
    id("org.jetbrains.dokka-javadoc") version "2.0.0"
    `maven-publish`
    `java-library` // <- THIS
    signing
    application
}

[spare quartz]

https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/java_library_plugin.html

[timid quartz]

ew gradle docs

[spare quartz]

rosetto and babichao are so cute,,,,,,

[lone sky]

I JUST WANNA PLAY MY DBD RIPOFF

ROBLOX WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME

[rustic vine]

illuminate interference

nvm we beat them

[lavish dove]

they are still out there waiting to be killed

[rustic vine]

still out there: 1 overseer

[lone sky]

update

[spare quartz]

guys

guys

they're gonna break the internet

[lone sky]

managed to join but...

[rustic vine]

I doubt it

free burritos tho..

[timid quartz]

u better not touch my pizza

[spare quartz]

die

i hope bayachao is in deltarune chapter 4

[timid quartz]

so I have to say

java {
    withSourcesJar()
}

to get bsl sources?

[spare quartz]

no thats if you want sources when you publish your project

your ide will automatically download our sources

[timid quartz]

oh

[spare quartz]

when you look at one of our files

[timid quartz]

no sources :3

it's not a lib so..

[spare quartz]

well the thing about like

every single microserver we make

is that they CAN be libraries... but they're also executable

thats why maven-microserver is built on top of static-microserver despite static-microserver itself being independently executable

[timid quartz]

idk how you'd use application_carpool as a library

[spare quartz]

well if you make any cool utility functions

they can probably be added to BSL

and if it itself is expandable in anyway

it can be a library

[timid quartz]

idk how it'd be expandable

[spare quartz]

i dunno making it support other stuff too like RDP

[timid quartz]

org.gradle.internal.resolve.ArtifactResolveException: Could not download bread_server_lib-code-2.22.2.jar

FIX YOUR SSL SOCKETS!!

[spare quartz]

did you use the right url

[timid quartz]

I coped it

from

[spare quartz]

send log

[timid quartz]

https://github.com/Bread-Experts-Group/http_router/blob/main/build.gradle.kts

[spare quartz]

send log

[timid quartz]

copied it

[spare quartz]

sned

lgo

[timid quartz]

idk how it did it in intellij

[spare quartz]

SEND LOG

YOU HAVENT MADE A CONNECTION.

[timid quartz]

IDK HOW TO GET THE LOG

[spare quartz]

dude

theres a huge ass panel

that pops up in the bottom of your screen

itll say why it couldnt download

[timid quartz]

you want me to copy that entire stacktrace?

[spare quartz]

yes

[timid quartz]

have fun

[spare quartz]

tsssssssssuuuuuuuuuuuu

[timid quartz]

see this is one of the many reasons why the jvm is ass

rust just tells you what's wrong

[spare quartz]

i know what happened

give me a second

[timid quartz]

doesn't give you a 5 billion line stacktrace

that you have to hunt in

[spare quartz]

yuuup knew it

[timid quartz]

￥

[spare quartz]

lemme just switch this to use temurin

[timid quartz]

lolllllllllllllll

[spare quartz]

ITS NOT MY FUALT THEY CAUSE REGRESSIONS

[timid quartz]

yes it is

if u didnt rely on their jvm and had ur own

then u wouldnt have this issue

smh

[spare quartz]

okay, help me code my own jvm

:3

[timid quartz]

in rust :3

[spare quartz]

sure

try the download again @sterile ruin

wrrrrong person

@timid quartz

[timid quartz]

it worked

if only you used rust.

wouldn't have this issue

[spare quartz]

if only i killed you with hammers

[timid quartz]

or even...alire and ada.

[spare quartz]

this wouldn't be a complaint

[timid quartz]

if only you used good langs

this wouldnt be a problem at all

[spare quartz]

your langs suck ass.

[timid quartz]

pic of you when I tell you the jvm sucks (it's true and you know it)

[spare quartz]

ITS NOT TRUE

[timid quartz]

is that izanari and chabashira drinking?

[spare quartz]

i wish i could tell you

[timid quartz]

what

[spare quartz]

look

clearly bayachao had something while drawing some of their art

[timid quartz]

some sake?

[spare quartz]

all of it

[timid quartz]

kokuri!!

[spare quartz]

god bayachaos media tab is such a minefield

[timid quartz]

now just

shirasame..

[spare quartz]

uhh

would you accept kohkau with rabies??

[timid quartz]

what

[spare quartz]

'

[timid quartz]

good that means kohaku will DIE of RABIES

HAHAHA

[spare quartz]

NO..

NOT CANON

[timid quartz]

canon.

[spare quartz]

@lone sky how much money for this

[lone sky]

all of it.

[timid quartz]

must...sleeb.

[spare quartz]

wrong

you must code

[timid quartz]

sleeber

no must sleeb

[lone sky]

ok ngl

[lone sky]

would lay on top of all of this

😭

[timid quartz]

NOT shirasame

neither character on approved list

[spare quartz]

you oughta just commission bayachao...

[timid quartz]

but $400 is wild

im broke

[spare quartz]

OKAY BUT ITS PROBABLY NOT THAT MUCH

@lone sky would you like chad kinari

[lone sky]

sure

[timid quartz]

go chaopost elsewhere'

[spare quartz]

RWIERNWUEFNUESDMFCSDI I FOUND CONNIE ART

OMRWEORMWEMORWEMORWEOMR LETS FUCKINGGOOOOOOOO

[timid quartz]

nui kinda cute too

[spare quartz]

hmmm that is paradoxical

i appear to have scanned 3,314 images of bayachao on accident

[timid quartz]

what

[spare quartz]

so i was scanning for art right

and suddenly all the images stopped

and i saw i was apparently at 2020

[timid quartz]

lole

[timid quartz]

ruby

[spare quartz]

ugh i need new lenses soon

my polycarbonate ones are getting scratched after like 3 years

[timid quartz]

omg...kokuri...

[spare quartz]

@lone sky more tamamo art btw

okay im nearly... oh my gOD IS THAT かてら

[lone sky]

SHOW

SHOW

SHOW

[spare quartz]

sooooooo

would you like the good news or bad news

[timid quartz]

both

[spare quartz]

• i got like 30 new pieces of bayachao art im going to send here and unfunnylads dms for the next

.... 5 months

• ive seen 6,300 images now, annnnnnd

[spare quartz]

there are absolutely no results of shirasame

i COULD look at other forms of media...

[timid quartz]

expected

[spare quartz]

what is babichaos chemical resistance?

[timid quartz]

welp I’m not saving $400 to commission bayacringe

[spare quartz]

IT PROBABLY DOESNT COST THAT MUCH

ask her!!!

you know enough japanese to do that im sure!!

[timid quartz]

You’re right it’s $4000

[spare quartz]

😭

[timid quartz]

def not

[spare quartz]

"doesnt cost that much"

x < $400 < $4,000

[timid quartz]

I KNOW

[spare quartz]

im sure they'd understand!!!!!

[timid quartz]

What you meant

[spare quartz]

dewww ittt

[timid quartz]

No

[spare quartz]

pay bayachao,,,,,,,,,,

[timid quartz]

Never

[spare quartz]

they will draw the rust crab...

[timid quartz]

Japanese people are mean…

[spare quartz]

they wont know what it means..

[spare quartz]

okay well if they bully you over your japanese bully her over her english

"It's ruby white House"

[timid quartz]

ermmmm Ruby is not the president of USA

[spare quartz]

okay but we'd be better off if he was

[timid quartz]

Honestly “furry and fluffy you’re so funny” is worse

[spare quartz]

TRUE

SO TRUE

https://tenor.com/view/furry-and-fluffy-furry-fluffy-dance-love-gif-5235735873221121631

okay im gonna lay down now

[timid quartz]

Reasons why bayachao should be wiped off the face of the earth

I’m also going bed

[spare quartz]

you cant even name one

[timid quartz]

Reason #1

[spare quartz]

anti reason

[timid quartz]

anti anti reason

and now I summon pot of greed to draw 3 additional reasons from my deck

[spare quartz]

反アーリアツト

[timid quartz]

Don’t use ツ use ス

[spare quartz]

dsfju2384

反アーリアスト

[timid quartz]

Also I’d spell it エラスト at least based on how I normally say it

[spare quartz]

ew thats how you say it

ive just been saying it "area sto"

[timid quartz]

canon pronunciation is air ass toe

[spare quartz]

"ass"

fitting name

[timid quartz]

kys

[spare quartz]

:3

[timid quartz]

go to sleep and don’t wake up for 75 hours

[spare quartz]

Ooo I gotta download all that bayachao art on my phone now

[timid quartz]

You should download it on your server and serve it with your http server

OK BYE

[spare quartz]

Can’t!!!

Spectrum legal!!

[rustic vine]

I am once again asking about NAS stuff cuz I realized I really should get one and also got some funds recently

theres so many options available idk what would be best so if anyone has ideas or suggestions/recommendations I will gladly hear u out

I can't decide between

1. getting a used specially built NAS (and buying my own drives)
2. a specifically for-NAS case then spec-ing it myself
3. a new NAS but throwing my own OS on it
4. buying a used business desktop and turning it into a NAS
5. building a desktop as a NAS

or if any of yall have a setup already please chime in

[spare quartz]

https://discord.com/channels/346444423271415819/1267583072728121384 probably has more reach to people who’d have information for that

[pastel tinsel]

(atp is about to say leave)

[spare quartz]

I’ve forwarded your massages

[rustic vine]

thx atp

[spare quartz]

Messages.

[pastel tinsel]

[rustic vine]

hop off the homophobia train

[rustic vine]

thats old news

[honest loom]

Can anyone help me on how to make a script that when a remote event is fired a blast door closes/opens?

[timid quartz]

We won't make it for you, but the general idea is that your blast door script (that controls the opening and closing) does something like

-- snip
local event = location.of.RemoteEvent

-- replace with event:FireClient(some player) pr
-- event:FireAllClients() if you're firing it
-- from the server
event:FireServer()
-- snip

and another script (the one that you want to react) does something like

-- snip
local function handler()
  -- do stuff to handle the remote event
end

local event = location.of.RemoteEvent

-- replace with OnClientEvent if you're
-- wanting the client to react to something
-- that the server has done
event.OnServerEvent:Connect(handler)

you can look at roblox docs here https://create.roblox.com/docs/reference/engine/classes/RemoteEvent#summary

important to note that RemoteEvents are for crossing the client/server boundary, whereas if you want something to stay on one side of the boundary, you use BindableEvents

[honest loom]

ty

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz

[spare quartz]

Sounds normal

[spare quartz]

Uh huh

I don’t see an issue there

[timid quartz]

rust 💪

[spare quartz]

System.identityHashCode():

[timid quartz]

lame..

just another example of kotlin bad rust good

[spare quartz]

What were they doing that was reliant on hashes anyways

Those should only impact performance

Ah

Collisions

I dunno, that seems fine

[timid quartz]

if katsumi likes rust then rust must be the best

[spare quartz]

Yeah well katsumi isn’t bayachao

Less important.

[timid quartz]

bayachao is less important yes

[spare quartz]

No.

[timid quartz]

dont you have some brainrotting to go do

[spare quartz]

like???

I just woke up

[timid quartz]

丑の刻参り

[spare quartz]

なんでやねん

[timid quartz]

why tf are you using kansai dialect

you're not southern

[spare quartz]

okay but

[spare quartz]

that’s me on the left.

[timid quartz]

no

you're nui

[spare quartz]

how does that change anything

they live in the same place

[timid quartz]

bottom right panel is a more accurate depiction of you

[spare quartz]

no takesies backsies

[spare quartz]

nope im nui just like you said

[timid quartz]

ruby monini

wtf is the blue one's problem tho

[spare quartz]

that’s his brother

[timid quartz]

lemme guess

his name is aqua

[spare quartz]

Uhhh

Lemme check

https://makemon.fandom.com/wiki/Fuuga

[timid quartz]

fuuga

[spare quartz]

she got this on a cake btw

[timid quartz]

im izanari in this picture

[spare quartz]

you have a professor who drags you to drinking parties??

yeah okay aera

[timid quartz]

no I have to deal with a bunch of chaolets being idiots

[spare quartz]

nah

Ughh

Need to do VM dev when I wake upppp

[timid quartz]

nah

[spare quartz]

I still haven’t figured what im gonna do about types yet

[timid quartz]

jus tdont wake up

[timid quartz]

smite

[spare quartz]

why tho. good drawing

[timid quartz]

good drawing. bad character.

[spare quartz]

how???

they’re literally cheshikas wife

[timid quartz]

doesn’t mean I have to like her

[spare quartz]

Rude.*

[spare quartz]

https://x.com/bkangryking/status/1928669783488172428?s=46

Dr Whopper (@BKAngryKing)

@effectfully Don't point too much shit out or they'll be introducing find-rs next

X · May 31, 2025, 4:28 AM

[timid quartz]

Too late https://github.com/sharkdp/fd

[timid quartz]

eurdltnea

[spare quartz]

im playing with these doors rn

bor efd

[timid quartz]

use animation s

[spare quartz]

no

[timid quartz]

eys

[spare quartz]

TweenService

Animations, Japan

魔魔魔⭐︎マジカル

[proud creek]

True

[spare quartz]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/1928587805120221457

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FixupX · May 30, 2025, 11:02 PM

this is aera

[timid quartz]

ragebaiting you

:3

[proud creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059960935600631858/1341642646527148072/IMG_6166.gif

[spare quartz]

IN FACT

I THINK I REALLY

REALLY

REALLY

HAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTEEEEEEE YOU

[timid quartz]

:3

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/wp3D9VQUy3E?t=4673

[rustic vine]

All bark no bite

[rustic vine]

This website is powered by Ada™️

[spare quartz]

true...

[rustic vine]

What is with aera and animations

He suggested that yesterday too

Animations are yuck

Or at least they were last time I used them

[spare quartz]

shrug

i wonder how connections and the gc works

say you had a function that takes in some object, creates a table with something inside, and attaches a connection to that object

the connection uses that table in a closure

if the object is destroyed (and by proxy the connection), how does the gc know that the table is unreachable

does the closure itself contain a reference to the table, which is used as the marker for the gc?

[rustic vine]

Are u asking about luau

[spare quartz]

yes

[rustic vine]

What is an object

[spare quartz]

an instance

[rustic vine]

Objects don't exist

Oh

[spare quartz]

they do

[rustic vine]

No they dont

[spare quartz]

but in roblox objects mean something else

yes they do

[rustic vine]

Nope

[spare quartz]

an EditableImage is an Object for example

[rustic vine]

Thats not a luau thing

[spare quartz]

https://create.roblox.com/docs/reference/engine/classes/Object?utm_source=studio&utm_content=autocomplete

[rustic vine]

Thats a roblox thing

Ye thats roblox

[spare quartz]

i just used the term interchangably for something that exists

[rustic vine]

Not a part of the language itself

[spare quartz]

but yes an instance

[rustic vine]

Wdym the table is unreachable

[spare quartz]

the block for which the table was created for has finished its execution

and the closure itself is also no longer callable

[rustic vine]

Oh

Yea the table gets freed

No refs

[spare quartz]

does luau have a specific gc architecture

like mark-and-sweep

[rustic vine]

Yes

Its mark and sweep

Which you can think of as ref counting (even tho it's not)

That table is considered an upvalue and since the closure no longer exists the table is marked to be freed

[rustic vine]

Yes

[rustic vine]

Its a little more complicated than this for luau

But idt that matters here

They do incremental work instead of gc pauses

And some other changes, but overall, the approach is basically mark and sweep

Lua is too

[spare quartz]

woohoo they set the pivot for me

i did not select either of you

[timid quartz]

Lots of things in QSERF use them now

Client sided, way smoother and more powerful than tweens

[rustic vine]

QSERF is your game right

Client sided doesn't matter much idt? Idk what you mean by smoother and more powerful

My main gripes with animations is dealing with assets (yuck), loading them is annoying and having to mess with instances (awful), forced 0.05s fade time, dealing with physics and non determinism and a whole host of other problems

[spare quartz]

oookayyy annunciator time..

unfortunately the designers of this annunciator did not put a reset/ack/test button anywhere so

they'll just be directly tied to the state of this thing...

on second thought ill just add the buttons myself

[timid quartz]

Doing tweens and animations on the client instead of the server matters hugely for smoothness

[spare quartz]

well im already doing tweens on the client

[timid quartz]

Animations rely on physics but you’re not actually doing anything with the physics because you’re doing it with an animation co troller similar to an avatar

So there’s not much physics engine load iirc

Tweens are simple but ever since QSERF switched to animations for stuff like buttons, switches, and doors, everything has been way smoother and we’ve been able to put tons more detail into each animation compared to tweens

[rustic vine]

Does it? Why would that be?

Oh, I guess if someone has terrible packet loss, but atp, nothing else is going to function correctly

[spare quartz]

tweening on the server introduces the need to wait for replication, which (among many factors) isnt perfectly smooth to the frame rate

nagles algorithm for one

dunno about anims though

[timid quartz]

Animations are super smooth too

[timid quartz]

Basically this though

[rustic vine]

It is perfectly smooth. Or it should be, replication is in sync with each frame

[spare quartz]

in practice it isn't

[timid quartz]

Vs if each client animates the door on its own it’s even smoother because it’s all local

[rustic vine]

Thats not possible

[spare quartz]

try it out for yourself

[rustic vine]

Its done in serial

[spare quartz]

compare a tween on the server vs a tween on the client

[wheat zinc]

harry wrong as usual

[rustic vine]

Chill bruh

[timid quartz]

@lyric mesa could talk a lot about the improvements that animations have had

[timid quartz]

HI EGGBERT

[rustic vine]

I'm not saying ur wrong I just dont get why there's a difference

Assuming no packet loss

[spare quartz]

well theres ultimately going to be some variance between when the packets are received

[rustic vine]

But they are put in a queue and read in sync

Per frame

[spare quartz]

what about the server "frame"rate then

[rustic vine]

Oh dear

Is your server fps not always 60? 😬

[spare quartz]

is the client not always 60?

[lyric mesa]

better performance, LoDs, more creativity, doesn't have the state issues of tweens, etc

[rustic vine]

The client can be whatever

[spare quartz]

exactly

[rustic vine]

Unless you're saying >60 on the client means a server running at fixed 60 cant keep up

[spare quartz]

if the server is replicating at 60 fps, without any external variables, theres still going to be a perceived lack of smoothness if they're running at 90, 144, whatever

but since theres external variables its compounded

[rustic vine]

Yea ok how abt we just ban running above 60 fps

[spare quartz]

acceptable

[timid quartz]

it's also just less strain on the server

because the server is doing less

[rustic vine]

🤷‍♂️

[lyric mesa]

oh hey that's right

animations have free replication benefits

[rustic vine]

Servers are meant to be used

[lyric mesa]

you can do it either server or client it's still just as good

[timid quartz]

yeah you use the server for important game logic and not for visual effects

[spare quartz]

stadia

[rustic vine]

Too bad! Server auth is the future

[timid quartz]

well duh

but if you have the server telling the client to do a visual effect

who cares if the client ignores it

[rustic vine]

No the server streams a video feed

To the client

[timid quartz]

oh gg

[rustic vine]

Yup

[timid quartz]

geforce now

[rustic vine]

Animations r dumb tho

[spare quartz]

i wonder if anyone has done that before, instead of the server rendering full frames

[rustic vine]

They require to mess with instances

[spare quartz]

it just renders partially along the pipeline, and client does the rest

[rustic vine]

And instances are yucky

[spare quartz]

hmm but that would involve transmitting GPU data too, which is more overhead...

[rustic vine]

The more I can do without instances the better

[spare quartz]

anyways i like tweens more than anims

[lyric mesa]

the one downside with animations is loading

it's super unstable

[timid quartz]

ok have fun making a tween for this thing to move https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/986697710298083399/1375184837178163210/iu.png?ex=683bf8ee&is=683aa76e&hm=a05961a713974c2e99bdada6c2a1984d3c2953ca898fdb49cb41aff606daae11&

[wheat zinc]

or door handles with a moving door

[rustic vine]

Ok look

[wheat zinc]

(anything actually complex)

[rustic vine]

I did thst

[spare quartz]

ive done that with tweens before, its not hard

[rustic vine]

I made that

[lyric mesa]

@wheat zinc you know and love it

[spare quartz]

this maybe, but... IK save us

[timid quartz]

erm actually it's quite clamplicated.

[spare quartz]

no.

[timid quartz]

easier to do with animations 100%

[rustic vine]

Just use physics constraints bruh

Its over already

[timid quartz]

but then physics engine 🤢

physics engine that's actually doing work

[rustic vine]

The engine is goated

[lavish dove]

I keep running into that thing on so many websites

[timid quartz]

me when I take network ownership of all the door handles and move them around the map

[spare quartz]

what sites are you going on??

[rustic vine]

U cant

[timid quartz]

(they used the physics engine)

[rustic vine]

Oh nvm u can

[wheat zinc]

animations will still be better for it

[timid quartz]

happened with the qserf fans back in the day

[wheat zinc]

like robloxs engine features for them are unbeatable

[lyric mesa]

this is the helper function qserf uses

[wheat zinc]

mixing physics and tweens is bad anyway

[timid quartz]

exploiter joins -> takes network ownership of the fans -> fans are flying everywhere

[lyric mesa]

phasing it out for something better though

[rustic vine]

Ok but you need to coordinate like 20 instances to load an animation

[spare quartz]

best qserf design be like

[timid quartz]

we should make a rust -> luau transpiler and code everything in rust :3

[wheat zinc]

for the greater good it's even easier to make the actual animation

[spare quartz]

👎

[lyric mesa]

but someone already made one

[timid quartz]

oh even better

let's use it

[spare quartz]

EXTERNAL DEP

[rustic vine]

It doesn't work

[spare quartz]

NOOOO

[timid quartz]

https://github.com/LoganDark/luau-rs

[rustic vine]

Wth is that

[spare quartz]

thats a binding??

[rustic vine]

Stop bruh

[lyric mesa]

though more specifically its for webassembly

so rust to webassembly to luau

[rustic vine]

In what? Roblox's animation editor? Curves are broken in that

[spare quartz]

oh right... i need to make this thing... boooringgg..

[lyric mesa]

wdym broken

[rustic vine]

I guess some people dont need curves

[lyric mesa]

i made all the qserf door animations with it

[timid quartz]

no u dont u need to uh.....go to sleep

[spare quartz]

but im not sleepy yet

and i wanna make the ada AST thing executable

[timid quartz]

oh boy

[rustic vine]

When copy pasting keyframes in the animation editor and using the “Use Auto Tangent” feature, it will work as expected in the editor but when the animation is played in game, it is as if the tangent is never set and it interpolates jarringly.

[spare quartz]

first i need to make sure declarative entities aren't repeated though

(or put that check in AST)

[timid quartz]

@lyric mesa for context terry said that if atp can make ada executable inside roblox then atp can use an ada program in AC25 to purge everything related to qs and ban qs hrs

[lyric mesa]

i think you're overstating it being "broken" then 😭

[rustic vine]

No bruh it makes the curve editor unusable

[lyric mesa]

i've never encountered that issue

[spare quartz]

what did speedy say

[timid quartz]

uh

speedy said that he only wanted qs excluded from awards

[lyric mesa]

[timid quartz]

@wheat zinc isn't that right

[lyric mesa]

yes

[rustic vine]

It behaves differently in game compared to in editor

[lyric mesa]

i've never had this issue myself

[rustic vine]

Huh

Prolly why nobody cares to fix it

I saw this impact pretty much every curve animation

Some worse than others

[spare quartz]

good enough

[timid quartz]

uplicate

[spare quartz]

minor spelling

92592349423t7239

[timid quartz]

ha ha

[spare quartz]

theres so many shortcuts in the AST rn that make it completely uncompliant with the ada rm

but i'll fix them as they get more important

[timid quartz]

well

ur goal isnt compliance

it's...."working"-ness

[spare quartz]

okay but i dont think you should be able to say

Ada.Text_IO: Integer;
as a declarative entity

[rustic vine]

I dont get how this is even going to work

[timid quartz]

sure you can

[spare quartz]

☣️

[rustic vine]

How will you call into the roblox side

[spare quartz]

ada has Import and Export pragmas

ill probably just add a Roblox Convention aspect

[rustic vine]

Huh

[spare quartz]

procedure Delete_Workspace
  is Import, Convention => Roblox;

... in an executive block
Delete_Workspace;

[snow oak]

workspace:Destroy()

DESTORY

[spare quartz]

the VM will then look at its imported functions table (like how i did natives with the JVM) and call into that

[rustic vine]

It just works?

[spare quartz]

theoretically

[rustic vine]

Isn't that an external dependency?

[spare quartz]

what is an external dependency

[rustic vine]

Roblox

[spare quartz]

sure i guess

[rustic vine]

Foiled again

Oh idt u can use that then

[spare quartz]

considering roblox is the environment the vm runs in, its an internal dependency, however

[rustic vine]

Not to the ada it's not

[spare quartz]

who cares about the program inside the VM

its not real

[rustic vine]

Oh ok

Kid named the program

[spare quartz]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/1928519054643396932

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FixupX · May 30, 2025, 6:29 PM

you could do this with a tween btw

[timid quartz]

I have a bad idea...JAda

import JAda.Text_IO;
public Program is class
  static procedure Main (Args : String[]) is
  begin
    JAda.Text_IO.PutLine ("Hello, world!");
    for Arg in Args loop
      JAda.Text_IO.PutLine (Arg'To_String);
    end loop;
  end Main;
end Program;

[spare quartz]

ada compilation to java already exists

[timid quartz]

runs on the jvm of course

[timid quartz]

but does an amalgamated syntax exist

[spare quartz]

thats called a dialect

and no

but ada already has OOP, it doesn't need the class keyword

[timid quartz]

but can it run directly on the jvm

[rustic vine]

Low tier bait

[timid quartz]

well..ig you could make an Ada -> CLASS compiler

[spare quartz]

yes

[rustic vine]

Ada -> BLAS

[timid quartz]

Ada -> CLR

[timid quartz]

no u couldnt

[rustic vine]

https://youtube.com/shorts/2X0GuU2hY0U?si=vzndrf6Q0TuMniRK

[rustic vine]

HE STILL FELL FOR IT

😨

[spare quartz]

bro fell for the lignite tier bait

[timid quartz]

ligma

[rustic vine]

Animate deez nuts

[timid quartz]

WHY NOT

LOL

[rustic vine]

Its mandatory

[timid quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/wawa-gif-4328351185792359931

[rustic vine]

Thou shall work first shift at chipotle

Thou shall prepare thy vegetables

[rustic vine]

Me after a 12hr shift at Chipotle

[timid quartz]

you must get a job at chipotle to work at chipotle
BUT
you must work at chipotle to get a job at chipotle

[spare quartz]

ななひら

[timid quartz]

うるさいも！！！

[spare quartz]

speak english

english only server

[rustic vine]

Trick question: you actually have to get a job at Chipotle before getting a job at Chipotle

[timid quartz]

近前看其牆上寫著
秦香蓮年三十二歲那狀告當朝
駙馬郎欺君王瞞皇上
那悔婚男兒招東床

[spare quartz]

ew

[rustic vine]

Hm

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/3g7m1YWRLxU?list=RDEsurv4W_kds

is this your AI training material?????

what year is your language cutoff?????

[timid quartz]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Shimei_and_Qin_Xianglian

it's an excerpt

[spare quartz]

your training material sucks ass

supervised learning terminated

[timid quartz]

your artistic and music taste is ass

internet access terminated

[spare quartz]

its great.

internet access expanded

[timid quartz]

internet access DESTROYED

[spare quartz]

bayachao.com

probably isnt ipv6 accessible ☹️

mr president what is your thoughts on bayachao

[timid quartz]

https://x.com/Lost_Signal/status/1685105102066229248

⍼ John Nicholson ⍼ (@Lost_Signal)

My stash of IPv6 memes is ready

X · Jul 29, 2023, 1:48 AM

[spare quartz]

they dont moron

[timid quartz]

erm

2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334

[spare quartz]

you idiot thats whats called a TEXTUAL REPRESENTATION

[timid quartz]

IM GOING TO REPRESENT YOU TEXTUALLY

[spare quartz]

just like how 0xFAF0 is an ipv4s textual representation

[timid quartz]

your brain (basically no thoughts) vs my brain (full of thoughts)

[spare quartz]

your brain trying to code something without one crate

[timid quartz]

your brain trying to do anything other than drink soda and binge bayachao

[spare quartz]

true

[spare quartz]

they made a video about you on yt

[timid quartz]

nah that’s a video about you

projecting onto me is crazy

[spare quartz]

はいはいはいはい

[timid quartz]

you're basically the size of texas

they can see you from orbit

[spare quartz]

❌

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FixupX · May 29, 2025, 11:24 PM

[timid quartz]

damn nice video of you

[spare quartz]

thanks im recording the video

im rich

[timid quartz]

fun main() {
    println("THIS LANG SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!")
}

[spare quartz]

This lang is fun*

[timid quartz]

your lang should be fn.

[spare quartz]

fn doesn't mean anything

its a useless keyword like your whole language

[timid quartz]

YOU'RE PROGRAMMING WRONG!!!!!

[spare quartz]

"SWE" in channel name

opinion discarded

this mf probably thinks rust is fast cause of the name

what is the game "grow a garden" even about

i havent played a roblox game in a year

ゲーム終盤に差し掛かって今まで進捗見てくれてた方々もさすがにそこはゲーム本編で見たいのか進捗を見ないようになって、それでも見て！見て！このシーン！って見せまくってるネタバレの化け物と化してる

[spare quartz]

mine sweeper ?

[timid quartz]

mine sweeper

[spare quartz]

ughhh

how do i get myself to code

i dont want to :<

ドラえもんって何のOSで動いてるのかな、Windowsかな。

[timid quartz]

heyyy you're becoming me

let's go

[spare quartz]

no

this is awful

[timid quartz]

just enjoy sitting on discord doing nothing

[spare quartz]

i dont want to

[timid quartz]

maybe go nap

play video game

[spare quartz]

okay but what video game is there to play

[timid quartz]

idk

[spare quartz]

i wouldp lay satisfactory but im watiing on my partner to get their new psu

[timid quartz]

yknow how like you go to the fridge just to look in it and be like "nahh I dont wanna eat any of this", do the same thing with steam

[spare quartz]

thats lame

and i have like 700 titles to go through

thatd take forever

[timid quartz]

I'm glad that I've influenced you

[spare quartz]

youre awful.

[timid quartz]

welcome to my world it's very cozy here

:3

[spare quartz]

we need more games.......

[timid quartz]

who tf is atlas

astro?

[spare quartz]

codevs boyfriend

[timid quartz]

gg

[spare quartz]

wait no

sorry WRONG PERSON!

but its one of their friends*

[timid quartz]

lk;dsfljkdsfjkl;sd;lksdlkjfsadlkdslksdflkslksdaflksdfalkjsdflk;dsflk;adsflkdsflkjasdflkadsflkjadsflk;adfslkadsf;lkasdflk;jadsflkdsafljkasdf

[spare quartz]

ugh

code my things

and also get to commissioning bayachao

[spare quartz]

that cant be boring!

[timid quartz]

no but japanese ppl r scary

[spare quartz]

no

[timid quartz]

im going to say some shit like おはようございます and shes gonna be like "kys, price is 100x more for americans"

[spare quartz]

LOL

THAT'D BE SO FUNNY THOUGH

oh my

oh my ghod

[timid quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1090197627334832160/1373254295062974484/trim.9F2B600D-CEBD-4E5F-A564-337DE8D176EB.mov?ex=683c3339&is=683ae1b9&hm=2cc494067ed4a5b9155284b7de06ab96d6c33b413fcb695a89b2bd48ca9a58ec&

[spare quartz]

THE UPPER RANGE IS $2,000 USD

😭

[timid quartz]

LOL

minimum $400.

[spare quartz]

i think thats more $300

$277

[timid quartz]

true

[spare quartz]

okay still worth

[timid quartz]

not wort

h

[spare quartz]

worth

[timid quartz]

I generally just do an order of 10 change

[timid quartz]

because it's close enough normally and the overestimation is better for me tbh

WAHT

[spare quartz]

ohh

[timid quartz]

does bayacringe take commissions on any other platform

[spare quartz]

it automatically translates it if you dont type in japanese

[timid quartz]

oh neat

[spare quartz]

i have no idea

[timid quartz]

$300 minimum for commission is crazy

[spare quartz]

its worth..

[timid quartz]

single character bust should be like $50