💽Programming Chat v2

[timid quartz]

ur mom

[spare quartz]

AND NOT TO MENTION

you played on the english version of ntot

which we both know is inferior to the jap ver

[timid quartz]

this is true but that only changes the translation

Not the actual story or gameplay

[spare quartz]

nah

storys better

[timid quartz]

[spare quartz]

press B to AGREE!!

reminder

devil connection brought us this

[timid quartz]

🤢

[spare quartz]

its clearly gonna be bigger than deltarune

tomorrow.

[timid quartz]

Deltarune in less than a month :3

[spare quartz]

DEVIL CONNECTION ONLY LIKE

150 TOMORROWS AWAY

if you really think about it

toby fox is just bayachao if they were from massachusetts

[timid quartz]

Toby Fox is bayachao but actually sane and normal

[spare quartz]

nah

bayachao is pure

[spare quartz]

dude

how do i kill an ai

that IS accurate

[timid quartz]

https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-remove-ai-from-your-google-search-results

[spare quartz]

mmbmb

peak google

HER FIRST ORIGINAL SONG BTW

!!

[timid quartz]

dies

[spare quartz]

shes done covers for like

8 years ...

[timid quartz]

Bayachao is proof that some ppl shouldn’t be on the internet

[spare quartz]

nah

bayachao is proof we should give babies ipads

so precious ..

@lone sky IF YOU HAD CHILDREN

would you make them

• draw for 20 years
• get a degree in art

also expose them to the internet at 1 year old

[lone sky]

sure

[lone sky]

LOL

[timid quartz]

Ew telegram

[spare quartz]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/1921147004442267806

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FixupX · May 10, 2025, 10:15 AM

bayachao videos 50% of the time

[timid quartz]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l8I38SDew-s&pp=ygUITWVvd2FnZXI%3D

THIS is real music

[lone sky]

aera hop on trg

👅

[spare quartz]

augh this sucks

lame

https://youtu.be/BtW1xjNkFTo

NOW THIS IS REAL MUSIC

[lone sky]

CONTRAPTION

@spare quartz

[spare quartz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTToQW4Twg8

need me a bayachao cover of this ngl

😭

[lone sky]

ok now

if y'all don't mind me im gonna do some gaming

[timid quartz]

QUANTUM??

[spare quartz]

what bread server lib probably looks like to the average dev ngl

[timid quartz]

It doesn’t just look like that, it IS that

[spare quartz]

nah

you just gotta be enlightened

my stomach hurts so much

i think.. im gonna have to drink... water... for real..

[timid quartz]

I think this is copium cause your code is bad

[spare quartz]

primeagen deceived ^

[timid quartz]

Have you not pushed your graphics stuff to BSL

[spare quartz]

i have... why

[timid quartz]

I don’t see the graphics folder on BSL GitHub

[spare quartz]

oh

im not pushing it to bsl

[timid quartz]

Y not

[spare quartz]

because its being staged

and updating bsl is tedious

[timid quartz]

Gonna stage you

[spare quartz]

bayachao!!!!!!

[lone sky]

no that's the tesseract mainframe

from the hit game TRG (The reactor Game)

[spare quartz]

bayacaho art gives me brain admage

[timid quartz]

Yep we can tell

[spare quartz]

mbm

[timid quartz]

Bayachao is brain damaging

[spare quartz]

headhce,

[timid quartz]

I also feel like most of the code in init could be refactored into BSL https://github.com/Bread-Experts-Group/system_instrumentor_microclient/blob/master/src/main/kotlin/windowing/Win32Window.kt

[timid quartz]

It just seems super boilerplate-y

[spare quartz]

init ..?

what makes you say that

[lone sky]

aawwwwww

[timid quartz]

idk this just seems super boilerplate-y

could refactor it under a .createWindow method or whatever

[spare quartz]

none of that has to do with window creation but i see what you mean

the biggest parts of FFI use are structure creation and upcall creation

i do believe structures could probably be minimized using classes

unsure about upcalls though

[timid quartz]

could probably make some convenience methods/functions for that then

but for me to understand how your FFI junk works I feel like I'd need to see the BSL Win32 code

[spare quartz]

the xHandle.kt and xLayouts.kt "classes" would probably be easier to start off with understanding

[timid quartz]

and even then I have no clue how I'd interface with Cocoa or Carbon or Quartz or Metal or whatever

[timid quartz]

in what file(s)

[spare quartz]

for example in Kernel32Handles.kt

[spare quartz]

look under the win32/ package

[timid quartz]

oh ic

[lyric mesa]

[timid quartz]

HI KATSUMI

[spare quartz]

bayachao brain rot

[lone sky]

☣️

[spare quartz]

goood my stomach hurtss so much

i should see a doctor..

[timid quartz]

so youre basically....loading a library in....and getting function references out of that...and calling them

[spare quartz]

basically yeah

[timid quartz]

urghhhhhhhh

so clamplicated

[spare quartz]

no

its much easier than how e.g. C++ does it

[timid quartz]

it would be a lot easier using a library...

[spare quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/cirno-hatred-kiryu-kiryu-kazuma-yakuza-gif-3361761317354543613

[lyric mesa]

not enough cargo.toml

[timid quartz]

real

ribbon!!

[spare quartz]

thats an article of FABRIC

not an application

[timid quartz]

// Register the window class.
const wchar_t CLASS_NAME[]  = L"Sample Window Class";

WNDCLASS wc = { };

wc.lpfnWndProc   = WindowProc;
wc.hInstance     = hInstance;
wc.lpszClassName = CLASS_NAME;

RegisterClass(&wc);

// Create the window.

HWND hwnd = CreateWindowEx(
    0,                              // Optional window styles.
    CLASS_NAME,                     // Window class
    L"Learn to Program Windows",    // Window text
    WS_OVERLAPPEDWINDOW,            // Window style

    // Size and position
    CW_USEDEFAULT, CW_USEDEFAULT, CW_USEDEFAULT, CW_USEDEFAULT,

    NULL,       // Parent window    
    NULL,       // Menu
    hInstance,  // Instance handle
    NULL        // Additional application data
    );

if (hwnd == NULL)
{
    return 0;
}

ShowWindow(hwnd, nCmdShow);

you call that hard?

[spare quartz]

this isnt what we're on about

lookup C++ dynamic library loading

[timid quartz]

ok but

[spare quartz]

i dont care

do it

[timid quartz]

if you used cpp you wouldn't need dll loading

because you'd just

create the window

[lyric mesa]

i spot a naming inconsistency

[timid quartz]

!!!

[spare quartz]

and link a binary that would be useless?

also again

JNI is slower than FFI

[timid quartz]

libraries and binaries that you use are not useless....

[spare quartz]

they are

cross platform, remember

[lone sky]

@timid quartz @spare quartz bye folks im going to sleep again

[lyric mesa]

the horror

[timid quartz]

gn

[spare quartz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/705581108678492170/1199548118178484275/speed.gif

[timid quartz]

RUST ❤️
Svelte 🙂
TypeScript 🙁

[lone sky]

NO

NOT THE GOOGLE CLASSROOM GIF

[spare quartz]

urghhh i feel like throwing up 😭

i dunno whats up with me

[timid quartz]

  HINSTANCE hGetProcIDDLL = LoadLibrary("C:\\Documents and Settings\\User\\Desktop\\test.dll");

  if (!hGetProcIDDLL) {
    std::cout << "could not load the dynamic library" << std::endl;
    return EXIT_FAILURE;
  }

  // resolve function address here
  f_funci funci = (f_funci)GetProcAddress(hGetProcIDDLL, "funci");
  if (!funci) {
    std::cout << "could not locate the function" << std::endl;
    return EXIT_FAILURE;
  }

[lyric mesa]

what about javascript

[timid quartz]

that's not hard

[timid quartz]

javascript 😖

[spare quartz]

f_funci funci = (f_funci)GetProcAddress(hGetProcIDDLL, "funci");

horrible

[lone sky]

sleep

[spare quartz]

not to mention you have to do all that error handling and its your ass if you get something wrong there

something you should be able to see as a rust user

[timid quartz]

idk I don't use rust ffi

[lyric mesa]

it only shows up because of this one config file that doesn't support typescript 😭

[spare quartz]

i mean safety wise dolt

[timid quartz]

oh true

[spare quartz]

ours is one line, handles the problems automatically, and links almost seamlessly with java

oh yeah p.s.

when dealing with C++/C/ObjectiveC you don't need to worry about ABI (for the most part)

Linker.nativeLinker() manages that for you

[timid quartz]

oh neat

I'm just not sure...how to even........do...macos graphics.....

without like....swift appkit

[lyric mesa]

burgers

[timid quartz]

so true

[spare quartz]

As noted above, the specific canonical layout associated with each type can vary, depending on the data model supported by a given ABI. For instance, the C type long maps to the layout constant ValueLayout.JAVA_LONG on Linux/x64, but maps to the layout constant ValueLayout.JAVA_INT on Windows/x64.

[timid quartz]

https://github.com/hakusoda/ribbon ribbon ❤️

[spare quartz]

also apparently manages the type size for you

didnt know that

[lyric mesa]

omg...

[spare quartz]

boooorring

[timid quartz]

AND you use conventional commits

someone else finally gets it

[spare quartz]

useless

what are they even for

[lyric mesa]

this commit is awesome

[timid quartz]

being clear about what's in a commit

rather than making four commits with <u> as the message

[spare quartz]

use english

[spare quartz]

<u> is plenty descriptive

[timid quartz]

no it's not

[spare quartz]

if you read the files its clear what its for

but you aren't a SMS developer

so of course you wouldn't know!

[timid quartz]

the idea is that you shouldn't have to read the files to get the gist of what a commit does

[spare quartz]

<u> IS the gist of what the commit does

[lyric mesa]

@timid quartz i just noticed this 😭

farewell failure

[timid quartz]

❌ <u>
✅ fix(HTMLUtil): Fix closing <u> tag

[spare quartz]

<u>

and what if i find myself in a situation where i make a commit so large its not gist-able like that

[timid quartz]

you DO realize you can...amend commits (if you haven't pushed them) right

[spare quartz]

and rewrite history?

[timid quartz]

skill issue, make smaller commits

[spare quartz]

i push ALL my commits immediately

[spare quartz]

flawed system

next

[timid quartz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evkhmkz-iW4

[lyric mesa]

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz hm..

[spare quartz]

well again

[lyric mesa]

these functions look safe

[spare quartz]

reminder that you are technically both not and are writing C

in some places it might be as bad as writing assembly in other places it might be just as good as objc/c++

[timid quartz]

huuh why Result<Ref<...>>

why not just Result<...>

[lyric mesa]

aera you made me realise

there is literally no point to those two functions being async or returning a result

why is it like that 😭

[spare quartz]

doohickey syntax

[timid quartz]

LOL

[lyric mesa]

also the ref exists because
read/write guard

[timid quartz]

pub fn roblox_account(
  &self,
  link_id: u64
) -> Ref<'_, u64, RobloxAccountModel> {
  self
    .roblox_accounts
    .get(&link_id)
    .expect("Unimplemented!")
}

[timid quartz]

ohh ic

why not just return the RwLock directly then

well..ig that would move it

[lyric mesa]

ref is from a library

[timid quartz]

ic

[lyric mesa]

https://github.com/xacrimon/dashmap

[spare quartz]

anyways GDI development time

need to figure out what is needed in a 2D graphics library

[timid quartz]

idk I just use the normal rust HashMap

[lyric mesa]

this looks kinda silly though

[timid quartz]

JWT

🤢

[lyric mesa]

what's wrong with it,,,

[spare quartz]

reminds me

is there a datastructure to do something like this i wonder

[timid quartz]

me when I set the "alg" header to "none," remove the signature, edit whatever claims I want, and then send it back

(the system will probably accept it)

idk the idea of giving a client a thing that the server uses to control what a client can do is fundamentally flawed imo

because you cannot trust the client

permissions need to be held entirely and exclusively on the server

[spare quartz]

what is a jwt again and what do it do

[timid quartz]

it's a new "authentication" thing that's an alternative to managing session state in a server-side database

[lyric mesa]

it does validate the algorithm

[timid quartz]

https://jwt.io/

[spare quartz]

mbmb

[timid quartz]

JWTs are fundamentally flawed

because you're giving the client the thing that contains and controls their permissions

versus a cookie where it's used by the server to look up their permissions in a spot the user can't see

[lyric mesa]

oh the thing is

i've never actually been using jwts properly and don't know why i still use them

[timid quartz]

gg

[lyric mesa]

the only field in ribbon jwts is a session id

[spare quartz]

            PAINTSTRUCT ps;
            HDC hdc = BeginPaint(hwnd, &ps);

            // Set text color and background
            SetTextColor(hdc, RGB(0, 0, 0));
            SetBkMode(hdc, TRANSPARENT);

            // Draw text
            TextOut(hdc, 50, 50, "Hello, GDI!", strlen("Hello, GDI!"));

            EndPaint(hwnd, &ps);

uh oh

STATUS_HEAP_CORRUPTION

[timid quartz]

YIPEE

I have no clue where to start with making a window via ffi on macos

[spare quartz]

ohh

i see

defined a struct as a int 🙏

[lyric mesa]

what kind of authentication are you fond of

[timid quartz]

for sessions? the classic cookie method

[lyric mesa]

define the classic cookie method

[spare quartz]

you send Set-Cookie

client says Cookie back in future requests

[lyric mesa]

[timid quartz]

user logs in via something (username + password, discord oauth, whatever), server creates a session cookie and assigns it to that user, client sends that cookie back for every request

server uses cookie to look up user perms, assigns expiry time to cookie

the difference is that the JWT contains the actual permissions that the server uses and that gets sent to the client, the cookie is basically just a "key" that the server uses to look up permissions and stuff stored on the server

[spare quartz]

tbf the cookie can be anything

but generally its just some hash the server made either randomly or off some data (like discord tokens having your email)

[timid quartz]

yeah

or a uuid

[spare quartz]

i wish there was a list online that said what .dll or .o implemented some .h

[timid quartz]

this is why we use libraries like opengl or sdl2...

[spare quartz]

those two suffer from the same issues

windows loves their *32.dlls

yoo

text

its very lazy when it comes to painting

[timid quartz]

what the L

[spare quartz]

adding something basic

[timid quartz]

ughhh

interacting directly with OS windowing libraries is so bad

I still really don’t see the benefit of the control

The pain to control ratio is just way too high

[spare quartz]

there

now just gotta remove background color from text...

[spare quartz]

well

sometimes you need to give yourself life altering disabilities in order to make progress

just found the best test sample

[timid quartz]

Sometimes it’s 100% avoidable

[spare quartz]

nope

not here

[timid quartz]

Yep

It’s avoidable.

[spare quartz]

not avoidable

[timid quartz]

Be normal use a library.

[spare quartz]

no

im tired

you're making me tired

color

[spare quartz]

お願いします

pushed GDI stuff

sleeping n ow

[rustic vine]

😭

[timid quartz]

no, u not using a library is making u tired :3

[spare quartz]

When I wake up

Please say the following to me

“DDB BM”

[timid quartz]

?remindme 18h

[upbeat badge]

**Command:** ?remindme

Description: Set a reminder
Cooldown: 5 seconds
Usage:
?remindme [time] [reminder]
Example:
?remindme 2 days It's tournament day!

[spare quartz]

I am not sleeping for 18 hours!

[timid quartz]

you might

[timid quartz]

you stayed up all night

[timid quartz]

go to bed stop posting stupid dog

[timid quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/courage-couragethecowardlydog-gif-13695185904701495562

[spare quartz]

I can post one more picture of them

but like

Idk if it’s safe for here 😭

[timid quartz]

thend ont

[rustic vine]

THEN SLEEP

[spare quartz]

it’s an amongus meme…

[rustic vine]

Ye ok ur out

[spare quartz]

Sussy

[rustic vine]

STOP

[spare quartz]

Sussy Baka

[rustic vine]

I propose we create a curfew for this channel

No messages after a certain time

[spare quartz]

it’s 11 am

[rustic vine]

I meant like

9pm

[rustic vine]

Does he know this didn't work

[timid quartz]

yes I know

[rustic vine]

Lol ok

[spare quartz]

Dogs…

[spare quartz]

あれあすと

あるあすと

え、、、悲しいな

「YouTube Shorts」をドゥームスクローリング…

不足な*ばやちゃおはコンテント

[timid quartz]

寝て！！！

今！！！！

[timid quartz]

Is the content insufficient or is there insufficient content

[rustic vine]

Ain't that the same thing

If the content is insufficient then there is insufficient content

[timid quartz]

well it's like

idk

one is an adjective phrase

so you're modifying "content" with "insufficient"

the other is saying "the content is insufficient" literally, or "there is a lack of content"

[rustic vine]

oh u were talking about grammar?

[timid quartz]

yeah

ughhhh sometimes I dislike nix

gotta wait on someone else upstream that's providing me kernel builds to fix their cache before I can build anything

otherwise if I try to build without that, I basically have to rebuild a lot of the other parts of the system

[rustic vine]

o ok

[timid quartz]

@lone sky raaagh

[rustic vine]

queue atp saying that if you grassroots everything then this wouldn't be a problem

[timid quartz]

fr

I mean ok

for nix this is valid

[lone sky]

nix is devious work

as I always keep saying

[timid quartz]

nix follows a wildly different paradigm

[rustic vine]

nix is cool

someone was shilling it to me a little while ago

[timid quartz]

nix is the best solution for all the problems caused by using nix

[rustic vine]

something something dependency sandboxing problem

[timid quartz]

and the situation with my laptop is doubly special because it's an intel macbook that uses apple's special T2 hardware security chip

[rustic vine]

nix solved it already and everyone else is trying to catch up is what I was told

[timid quartz]

which MEANS you need special kernel modules

[rustic vine]

I think u should get

a different laptop

[timid quartz]

and since people dont normally like building kernels on their laptops themselves, someone is kindly using their larger computer to build and cache kernels

[rustic vine]

that may be the worst option of the bunch to have rn

[timid quartz]

but that cache is having some issues rn

and is stopping me from building ANYTHING

[rustic vine]

get a different laptop!

[timid quartz]

I will at some point

that requires having money I don't have rn

[lavish dove]

simply build the kernel and keep it like that

[rustic vine]

whats ur macbook specs

[lavish dove]

dont dlete it

ez pz

[rustic vine]

I assure you a comparable windows machine is cheap as hell

[timid quartz]

4-core i7, 16gb ram, 500gb ssd

[lavish dove]

4 cores is crazy

[timid quartz]

I actually bought this thing used for less than 1k

[rustic vine]

yea thats like 200 bucks

[timid quartz]

well 8 threads

[rustic vine]

u can get that for 200 bucks

do u not have that money rn

[timid quartz]

[rustic vine]

hell yes you can

[timid quartz]

used or new

[rustic vine]

used obv

[timid quartz]

ok used sure

well

[rustic vine]

its literally just cosmetic damage

[timid quartz]

ehhhhh

[rustic vine]

especially if you get it from corporate

[timid quartz]

it depends on what kind of "used" you get

[lavish dove]

I have 512 gigs and 8 gigabytes of ddr5-5800 with 4.8ghz (all 12 cores!!)for 400 bucks

[rustic vine]

the companies take good care of their work machines

and theres so much used business tier laptops out there

for cheap as hell

[lavish dove]

my school destroys its old laptops

and they replace everything every year

[rustic vine]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/286469320968

[lavish dove]

then complain about budget issues.....

[rustic vine]

this is 150 bucks

looks like just cosmetic damage

[timid quartz]

10th gen i7

is what I have

[rustic vine]

theres macbooks with 10th gen?

[timid quartz]

i7-1068NG7

[timid quartz]

this is a 2020, right before they went m1

[rustic vine]

why did u buy one then 😭

idk if I can find a 10th gen

[lavish dove]

why did you buy a macbook in the first place 😭

[rustic vine]

but something like this will be solid anyway

usually these business laptops are super stable too

I've used one of these used p52s laptops for 3 years now

[lavish dove]

thinkpads are superior

[rustic vine]

especially the business/corporate tier

they also love to throw out hundreds of them onto the used market

for very cheap

[timid quartz]

Cause it was used and I already have Apple products

[rustic vine]

do u run macos on it

presumably

[lone sky]

BORN TO PORT FORWARD
MINECRAFT IS A FUCK
Host Em All 1989
I am server man
410,757,864,530 OPENJDK ERRORS

I HATE YOU MINECRAFT

[rustic vine]

or something like this https://www.ebay.com/itm/196518216017

[timid quartz]

macOS mostly but I do have NixOS on it too as I was discussing

[rustic vine]

this is 200 bucks

[timid quartz]

It’s 200 bucks but it’s inferior to what I have now

[rustic vine]

yea but its a windows machine

[timid quartz]

I’ve also had this MacBook for at least 4 years

Probably closer to 5

This isn’t a new purchase

[timid quartz]

Still has worse specs

[rustic vine]

🤷‍♂️

are you sure you're actually taking advantage of the specs you currently have

im just sayin, used business class laptops that will work for day to day work (unless you 3d model or something) are absolutely not expensive

[timid quartz]

I again also have no money

[timid quartz]

Yes I am

[rustic vine]

what for

[rustic vine]

🙁

are you paying tuition

in full

[timid quartz]

I have Zell

But Zell only covers tuition

[rustic vine]

ye but housing and stuff is

stupid expensive

for 0 reason

[timid quartz]

All the other fees nada

Yeah

[rustic vine]

parking fee 😨

[lavish dove]

so I open 1989?

[timid quartz]

Well the times when I DO program and have multiple things open at once, building programs (especially Nix stuff or when I was trying to make a gcc cross compiler), etc

[rustic vine]

are your parents sponsoring any of it or are you making the money yourself

[timid quartz]

Uhhhh

I’m deferring my monetary worries to later

[rustic vine]

dont tell me ur in debt

[timid quartz]

If I wasn’t then there’s no way I would be in college at all

[rustic vine]

oh ok ic

damn bruh thats rough

but you're out soon tho right

[timid quartz]

Yeah and depending how my internship this summer goes I may have a full time job after

[rustic vine]

oh sick

where are u interning

[timid quartz]

Small company doing IT

[rustic vine]

pay is good? 😁

[timid quartz]

Not doing SWE or anything, those jobs are impossible to get especially without connections

[timid quartz]

It’s meh but it’s decent for an IT intern

I’ll have a decent bit of money left over after rent so

I’m not complaining

[rustic vine]

you'll be surprised. small company means IT can often end up doing some SWE

or well, depends on what you mean by small

if you mean like 30-40 people

then yea you can def end up doing software

(if its a software company)

[timid quartz]

Yeah in that ballpark I think

It’s not software tho

[rustic vine]

cool

when do you start

oh

[timid quartz]

I start next week

[rustic vine]

try to enjoy it

[timid quartz]

I’m looking forward to it, I got into the place on a connection and they seem super chill

And I’ll be working with the guy who connected me and he’s also great

[rustic vine]

awesome

[timid quartz]

Connections are really the meta honestly

[rustic vine]

ye

[timid quartz]

If you don’t have a connection you’re basically Sisyphus

[rustic vine]

going to college is mostly about connections for me anyway

[timid quartz]

Yeah fr

[rustic vine]

you can learn all of it yourself if u wanted

that doesn't really matter

but yea at my last internship it was a small software company and the culture was great

8:15am standups every day tho

LOL

at least one nice thing abt scrum/agile/whatever is that the release cycles are SUPER short

so stuff you work on gets out into a public release very quickly

we had 2 week long sprints

and a new release end of every sprint

so stuff you worked on would hit prod every 2 weeks which is kinda neat

they used bitbucket though 😬

[timid quartz]

Bitbucket lmao

Probably used Jira and Confluence

Wanted to keep everything inside Atlassian cause they were paying for it

[rustic vine]

yep

everything was atlassian

[timid quartz]

Small companies seem to be meta too because they’re more likely looking for workers

[rustic vine]

actually Jira is Not Bad

bitbucket was

barebones, to say the least

[rustic vine]

and don't have ridiculous 20 stage coding interview processes

[timid quartz]

lol yeah last time I used it

[timid quartz]

Oml tell me abt it

[rustic vine]

LOL

[timid quartz]

Though I really gotta grind some more leetcode

[rustic vine]

ye its not that hard tbf just

annoying

it comes with practice

[timid quartz]

My brain just doesn’t take to solving algos that easily

[rustic vine]

the most valuable thing to learn from practicing many of similar problems is just

[timid quartz]

The only reason I got an A in that class is because the final had a massive curve

[rustic vine]

how to approach X problem

and common solutions/approaches that apply to many of them

[rustic vine]

goated

though that company introduced me to https://www.gitkraken.com/

cuz they paid for pro

I thought it was kinda cool

but it doesn't really do too much

🤷‍♂️

oh there wasn't nearly this much ai crammed into it when I used it

lol

[timid quartz]

AI is crammed in everything now

I used gitkraken a little too but tbh also barely used it

The git gui in VSCode is decent as is magit in emacs and also just the git cli

There’s also this that looks neat https://github.com/gitui-org/gitui

[rustic vine]

yea the vscode one is fine for what I need it to do usually (visualize the tree), otherwise the cli is fine

and ofc u would link a rust one

fwiw, I learned a lot of useful stuff I didn't know about git from this

but im a git noob so maybe yall already know most of this

I've also heard good things about using gitk directly

[timid quartz]

Well yes but it’s interesting aside from being a Rust project

[rustic vine]

ik im just sayin

[timid quartz]

how long has atp been asleep for

from abt 12:30p eastern

so

7.5h

still got another 5-8h to go

[lone sky]

i bet you she's waking up in like 4 hours and then work on BSL for like 12 hours straight

and fall into sleep again

[timid quartz]

real

[timid quartz]

ig it's time..

wrong url

https://www.pixiv.net/users/{userid}/illustrations

[pastel tinsel]

uh oh

[rustic vine]

btw u spelled Pixiv wrong

[timid quartz]

[rustic vine]

lol

dude I swear I tell intellij

to add something to dictionary

every single time

I open a project

its the same thing too

I'm convinced it just forgets

[pastel tinsel]

LOL

DEMENTIA

[timid quartz]

appears that pixiv may be a little smarter than Twitter in terms of detecting bots

no matter

[rustic vine]

https://anubis.techaro.lol/docs/

[timid quartz]

Will do more after eep

[timid quartz]

No it doesn’t use Anubis

[rustic vine]

oh ok I wasn't say it did

I just wanted to post it in case u haven't see that already

someone sent it to me today

[timid quartz]

Yeah I’ve seen it

I think even the arch wiki uses it now

[rustic vine]

oh huh

[spare quartz]

0293842

Fuck

Why can’t I have normal dreams

[spare quartz]

Dumb… useless… idiot tool…

[lyric mesa]

[spare quartz]

一年ぶっ通しで毎日作業漬けなのはそうなのですが、身内がプログラマーなのでそこらへんでコミュニケーション取りやすくてありがたい限りです🙏

@timid quartz you have been working for 4 hours. are you really awake?

[lavish dove]

he must have died

hes gone

not on our mortal realm

[spare quartz]

https://fixupx.com/__tinygrad__/status/1920960070055080107

the tiny corp (@__tinygrad__)

Here's the worlds first AMD GPU driven over USB3. From a Mac! Linux and Windows should work too, it's just libusb.
︀︀
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FixupX · May 9, 2025, 9:52 PM

THIS COULD BE A MICROSERVER

[spare quartz]

it WOULDN'T, but i don't fail to see what practicality is

generally though i wont be able to understand and thus comment on nix effectively

[spare quartz]

104203-

sorry needed to catch myself up on data

you predicted my sleeping time to a frightening degree of accuracy though

"7:34 PM"
remembered waking time: "11:00 PM"
... 4 hours

need to do some thinking ... "DDB BM"

A1.

[spare quartz]

there is an issue with mine too where ill tell it to add something to the dictionary, and then when the next analysis cycle is done (about 1.2 s) it immediately complains again

[spare quartz]

now to add a BMP reader so i dont have to rely on ms' reader...

[timid quartz]

Ewww

[spare quartz]

you SAID

to render a kohaku

also am watching stargate sg-1 for the first time

[spare quartz]

oh but

i did also do that

[timid quartz]

But why would you ever listen to what I say

What if I told you to come back when you’ve killed unfunnylad

[spare quartz]

well then id already be back

he's dead right now

dammit

these salisbury steaks are so big

[timid quartz]

@lone sky is this true or rubbish

[spare quartz]

as far as im concerned its true

and since when do YOU use rubbish?

[timid quartz]

No I meant DEAD dead.

[spare quartz]

british ass

[timid quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/true-or-rubbish-gif-25237550

[spare quartz]

your ass rn

[spare quartz]

mbmbmbmb

so good though

i was relaly hungry

[timid quartz]

go do pushups or smth…

isn’t that what military people do

[spare quartz]

no thats what gym people do

but i was reaallly starving

i needed this

[timid quartz]

but what about when the drill sergeant says drop and give me 20

[spare quartz]

then sure you do that

[timid quartz]

Yess lol

Ben Garrison doing an omori comic was so funny

[spare quartz]

he didn't make that

but still ai could never do this

[spare quartz]

https://fixupx.com/kyabe_mkmnfan/status/1921251352769863732

[timid quartz]

KILL IT

EWWW

GET IT OUT

[spare quartz]

ADMIN ABUSSEEEE

ILLEGAL MESSAGE MODIFICATION

[timid quartz]

Bro is petty and third class

[spare quartz]

w

no

thats the fucking captain

😭

[timid quartz]

I don’t know stupid military rank insignias smh

Except for army jrotc

[spare quartz]

well army jrotc is BASICALLY real army's rank

except for WO but those are dots and a line

usaf jrotc is much different compared to the real usaf

but for the usaf just remember that sergeants map one rank lower than in the army

master sergeant (usaf) = sergeant first class (army)

us navy and us marines more complex and weird

and us space force dont bother

[timid quartz]

Seaman Recruit
Seaman
Uhhh
Petty Officer 3rd Class
Petty Officer 2nd Class
Petty Officer 1st Class
Chief Petty Officer
Master Chief Petty Officer
Uhh

Ensign
Uhhh
Captain
Uhhh
Admiral (with the weird halves and whatever)

[spare quartz]

tobuscus is an alt right person now????? ☹️

[spare quartz]

mfs be calling themselves a "seaman" and a "rear admiral"

[spare quartz]

navies cant be real

[timid quartz]

Real

Gayvy

[spare quartz]

anyways the REAL debirun

since you censored the tweet.

[timid quartz]

Grossssss

ewwww

Kill it

[spare quartz]

nnnnno

[timid quartz]

Get it out

[timid quartz]

Persona, finally something normal and based

[spare quartz]

but what if it had a makemon mod

[timid quartz]

No

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/TgnsXUUtiGY

[timid quartz]

ATP mind virus

[spare quartz]

i like how they use 耐久 in that title

1時間 [hr] 耐久 [endurance; persistence]

with that

a new way to write a word

耐ばやちゃお [bayachaoproof/resistant]

[timid quartz]

俺の心

[spare quartz]

いけません！

[rustic vine]

It was a joke 😁

[spare quartz]

yes i know

[rustic vine]

Hey u aren't asleep!

[spare quartz]

?

[timid quartz]

Omg wait you posted Omori content

[spare quartz]

lie

[timid quartz]

Hero and Stranger

[spare quartz]

thats a bayachao image

[rustic vine]

I'm just surprised. Thought you'd be asleep by now

[spare quartz]

you just need special vision to see it

[spare quartz]

i woke up 11 hours ago

[rustic vine]

How long are you usually awake for

[timid quartz]

12 hours

[spare quartz]

well doing arithmetic...

[timid quartz]

12 hour awake 15 hour sleep

[spare quartz]

i usually sleep from 8 hours to 11 hours... so...

16 to 13 hrs

[timid quartz]

13..=16

[rustic vine]

Day overflow vulnerability

[spare quartz]

13..16 for the based kotlin users

[timid quartz]

Well that’s why atp progressively rotates the time when they’re awake

[spare quartz]

a<=n<=b our beloved

[rustic vine]

Genius

[spare quartz]

i was compiled with stack protection

[timid quartz]

Like atp used to wake up in the evenings EST, but now is waking up in the mornings EST

[spare quartz]

use CST

[timid quartz]

How do you express a<=x<b

[spare quartz]

a..<b

[rustic vine]

Oh good thing you specified EST, I almost thought atp would wake up in a different timezone

[timid quartz]

Or [a, b) if you rather

[timid quartz]

Cringe

[rustic vine]

Yuck!

[spare quartz]

nah

also i believe a until b

[timid quartz]

Wait does Kotlin do uh

a<x<(=)b?

[spare quartz]

a<=x<=b for the standard .. operator

[timid quartz]

(a, b] and (a, b)

[rustic vine]

Worst part about kt may be the listOf

[spare quartz]

oh

i believe thats possible yes

[timid quartz]

mutableListOf 🤢

[rustic vine]

😨

[spare quartz]

i havent had to use ranges out of indices, UNTIL, and ../..<

[timid quartz]

Ic

[spare quartz]

god

the ADA brain hit me

[timid quartz]

fwiw idk how to do this in rust either

[spare quartz]

good design

[timid quartz]

The American Disabilities Act? Yeah you are disabled we know

[spare quartz]

i am yes

[rustic vine]

Python slicing on top btw I wrote some python today after a little while and it was actually pretty awesome

[spare quartz]

thank you for providing accessibility

[timid quartz]

let mut list = vec![]; better

[spare quartz]

ugly as shit

dont design a lang near me ever

[timid quartz]

kys

[spare quartz]

at least its not whatever "programming lang theory" people are doing

🤢

[rustic vine]

Nahhhh u can't be talking ada is NOT better

[timid quartz]

Ew theory

🤢

[rustic vine]

It's like reading an essay reading ada

[spare quartz]

those people are weirrrd

[timid quartz]

I think that’s one thing we can agree on atp

[rustic vine]

Hey don't hate theory can be cool

[spare quartz]

can be

but generally its just weird things to tickle math people

[rustic vine]

Lol

[spare quartz]

i gotta say though some algorithms they make are neat

like to distribute points evenly across a sphere

thats great

[rustic vine]

It's ok. There's 2 types of languages, ones that are complained about and languages that aren't used

[timid quartz]

There are some interesting parts of theory yeah

But by and large it’s just stupid math

[rustic vine]

Math is cool too 😅

[spare quartz]

nah

[timid quartz]

❌

math highkey sucks

[rustic vine]

What!

Yall r haters

Math is awesome

[timid quartz]

algebra and calculus are ok because they’re practical but theoretical math sucks ass

[spare quartz]

all you need is adding and dividing

anything else is bloat

[rustic vine]

Linalg is cool too!!

[timid quartz]

Adding and multiplying

[spare quartz]

thats just dividing for weird people

[spare quartz]

ehh same thing as dividing

[timid quartz]

ig

[rustic vine]

I can't imagine you actually hit any of the hard theory math unless ur a math major

[timid quartz]

It makes more sense to do x*2 than x/0.5 tho

[spare quartz]

x*0.5 and x/2

it goes both ways

[rustic vine]

These aren't equivalent

[timid quartz]

Algo was hard 😭

[rustic vine]

Oh

They r

[spare quartz]

yes

[rustic vine]

I read 0.5 as 5

Wth am I cooked

[spare quartz]

probably

[rustic vine]

Oh

Yea ok mayb

[spare quartz]

yo this is a bayachao refernece

[timid quartz]

Also the compilers theory gets annoying

But I think that was a professor skill issue cause that guy lowkey sucked at explaining things in an understandable way

He largely just read off the slides

[lone sky]

I HATE AOSP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[spare quartz]

did they make the slides

or are they standard

[timid quartz]

Neither I don’t think

[spare quartz]

right

i have not worked on adding image reading yet

i wonder how i should go about it ...

• use java ImageIO (need 2 figure out cons)
• do it myself

[timid quartz]

Well knowing yourself

You’ll end up doing it yourself

[spare quartz]

yeah

but i also know that java imageio by itself is already a bit of a pain especially in regards to animated images

[timid quartz]

But also if image IO is included with Java then you might as well unless you encounter a bad drawback

[spare quartz]

so the outcome was practically predetermined

[spare quartz]

i dont know if imageio does anything more "natively" though

[timid quartz]

Me when I get you

[spare quartz]

a mix might be preferred

[spare quartz]

pls dont i have low air capacity :<

bayachao meme with the amongus

well

it was drawn by rosetto... rosetto meme

[timid quartz]

To all the FBI agents watching this chat, this person (ATPStorages) is a national security issue and should not be allowed into the United States military. They should be arrested on sight and incarcerated in perpetuity as they are a severe threat to the sovereignty of our glorious United States.

[rustic vine]

Prolly

[rustic vine]

The paper ones aren't scary

[spare quartz]

"our glorious" fucking commie

arrest this guy

[rustic vine]

To all the FBI agents watching this chat, this person (ATPStorages) is a national security issue and should not be allowed into the United States military. They should be arrested on sight and incarcerated in perpetuity as they are a severe threat to the sovereignty of our glorious United States.

[timid quartz]

@lyric mesa ena

[spare quartz]

BOO! Did I scare you? I'm an automated recruiter 😂😂😂

[lone sky]

YOU'RE AN AUTOMATON???

[rustic vine]

And bots, don't get blocked

[lone sky]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-automatons-freedom-liber-tea-gif-4704290022450713731

[rustic vine]

Helldivers is actually aome crazy tech

Not sure if yall know this

[lyric mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/ena-dream-bbq-joel-g-gif-23226926

[rustic vine]

But they don't have dedicated servers

So every helldivers lobby is p2p

[spare quartz]

what is their solution to the ip problem if any

[rustic vine]

Idk actually

I was mainly making a point about

I realized with some friends the other day just how much client simulation they do

It's actually pretty crazy

Enemies are all completely simulated on the client

With the server only acting as an authority on kills I think

[spare quartz]

do you know how they manage synchronization? or have they got it deterministic

[rustic vine]

I think it's deterministic

[spare quartz]

really surprising if its the latter

thats not an easy thing to do

[timid quartz]

Bro get these stupid military recruiters out of my email and text messages I don’t care that I made a 93 on the asvab it was 5 years ago!!!!!!

[rustic vine]

Yea that's why I'm mentioning it

The reason I suspect that is cuz

A friend of mine disconnected from the host

[spare quartz]

enblist,

[rustic vine]

But he was literally still playing the game as normal

Just the other players stopped moving

Byt the enemies all still worked and did the same thing

[timid quartz]

No I like my long hair and I don’t wanna suffer for 8 weeks just to serve corporate interests rather than the people of America

[spare quartz]

in breadmod we try and aim for something like that

basically just do the thing as much on the client as locally possible and then send periodic sync packets

just to ensure whatever the client sees is actually whats with everyone else

[spare quartz]

long hair???

i thought you were bald

[rustic vine]

It was pretty cool. For them being on an ancient engine it's neat to see

[rustic vine]

Will be after the radiation gets to him

[timid quartz]

I have long hair

[spare quartz]

bayachao reference

ngl

[rustic vine]

Oh like 1 strand of long hair I see

[proud creek]

True…

[rustic vine]

I think my uni used to have a research reactor long time ago actually

[spare quartz]

did it have pile in the name

[rustic vine]

I remember hearing about that from someone

Uhhh did it? I don't remember

[spare quartz]

if it did its a based reactor

[proud creek]

My uni does

[spare quartz]

otherwise it should've melted down

[timid quartz]

Pretty sure they still have a research reactor but they used to have one that actually produced power too

[rustic vine]

They do???

[timid quartz]

Yep

[proud creek]

They were yapping about it on the tour

[rustic vine]

I was under the impression it's gone

[timid quartz]

Yeah the one that actually made power is

[spare quartz]

when was it decommissioned

[lone sky]

SPACE ENGINEERS UPDATE????????????

[timid quartz]

I’ve heard from the nuclear majors that they still have a testbed underneath the nuclear engineering building

[timid quartz]

Idfk STOP TRYING TO DOXX US!!!!!

[spare quartz]

ughhhh

[rustic vine]

Well no, it was also just a research reactor I thought

[spare quartz]

im just interested okay :<

the us hasn't developed nuclear technology much within the past 40 years

[rustic vine]

I woulda said it if not for a minor coincidence

[timid quartz]

Pretty sure it powered the uni too

[rustic vine]

HUH really

That's awesome wait

[spare quartz]

ask and you shall receive

https://fixupx.com/i/status/1920163716961865829

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FixupX · May 7, 2025, 5:07 PM

[timid quartz]

LOL

[lone sky]

is this the first meme of 2025?

[rustic vine]

Baseball huh

https://youtube.com/shorts/Oo63vtmSW_E?si=9XHX9bvyEv3OKDwU

[spare quartz]

not this guy 😭

[timid quartz]

Idk I could be tripping it says it wasn’t that powerful

[lone sky]

B.A.Y.A.C.H.A.O.

[timid quartz]

But some of my nuclear engineering friends say they have one in the basement of their building that’s barely powerful enough to observe discrete phenomena

[spare quartz]

SHE IS NOT ELDERLY??

[timid quartz]

Yes she is

[spare quartz]

how old are you again aera

20?

[timid quartz]

She’s in her 30s she’s practically dead

[spare quartz]

SHES 25

??

[rustic vine]

Oh huh ok. I gotta get myself some of those (nuclear engineering friends)

[timid quartz]

Again she’s already got one foot in the grave

[rustic vine]

Idk anybody in that program

[spare quartz]

her friend rosetto is like 38

[timid quartz]

Like I’ve already ordered my headstone and gotten a plot for my grave

[rustic vine]

Baseball huh

[timid quartz]

Damn she’s on her deathbed basically

[spare quartz]

commotio cordis

[rustic vine]

So that's where the funds went

That stuff is EXPENSIVE btw

[spare quartz]

you should be reserving your funds for a casket

those are a lot more expensive

[rustic vine]

I had to get that stuff sorted and it was not cheap

[timid quartz]

Yep and besides I’m in no mood to get a new laptop rn the one I have works fine

[timid quartz]

Ok but casket is secondary

[spare quartz]

pls

[rustic vine]

No ik I'm just saying man

[spare quartz]

pls get a casket

i dont want the rust nutrients getting in the earth

[timid quartz]

As long as I have a plot it doesn’t matter if they throw me in with or without a casket

[spare quartz]

some kid 100 years ago from now is gonna get an apple and think "i should code in a memory safe language"

biohazardous

[timid quartz]

:3

[rustic vine]

Wait I never asked or I forgot wheres ur family from @timid quartz

[timid quartz]

Uh

Ur moms house

[rustic vine]

Or like where are you from

Brah

I'm genuinely curious

[timid quartz]

welllll too bad

[rustic vine]

🙁

[spare quartz]

doesnt seem like the place to discuss that!

[rustic vine]

Why not

[spare quartz]

i get programming chat is more secluded but its still qsp

[spare quartz]

anyone can see this chat

[rustic vine]

My name gives mine away tho

[timid quartz]

Ok and

[spare quartz]

idk

chen is a chatgpt name

[timid quartz]

That’s your choice too

[rustic vine]

Idk it doesn't seem like a big deal to me

[timid quartz]

And it’s my choice to not reveal that