man pgoramming would be so much easier if my desk didnt hve a brkoen leg and requires resetting it every minute or i die
#💽Programming Chat v2
spare quartz
rustic vine
yes! these are awesome
spare quartz
too weird 4 me
rustic vine
u get used to it
it really helps you not develop carpal tunnel
and is a lot more ergonomic
spare quartz
people actually get carpal tunnel??
rustic vine
yuh
spare quartz
well, if you have to explicitly state they're not allowed..
timid quartz
ok harry pick the best:
- rust
- ada
- kotlin
@rustic vine
spare quartz
harry pick lua
spare quartz
😭
timid quartz
people actually get carpal tunnel??
my mom had it twice
rustic vine
ok harry pick the best:
- rust
- ada
- kotlin
wow this one is tough
well. its easy to eliminate the first one
rustic vine
lets just get ada out of the way
spare quartz
NOOOOOOOOOOO
rustic vine
and then we can think about kt and rust
timid quartz
YIPEE!
spare quartz
rustic vine
https://tenor.com/view/whirow-nvm-ur-content-sucks-arcade-assassin-funny-meme-gi...
well, the problem with ada is that there is no content
timid quartz
honestly kotlin's only shortcoming is the jvm
rustic vine
yea honestly rust is cool
spare quartz
honestly kotlin's only shortcoming is the jvm
the jvm is a masterpiece.
rustic vine
if only it was good for linalg
rustic vine
I end up doing a lot of my work in cpp cause rust sucks for linalg
spare quartz
i would say ada numerics but
rustic vine
no bruh matlab is some
spare quartz
its just not got enough to use on!!
rustic vine
diabolical syntax
rustic vine
yea and it SUCKS
spare quartz
ok use R then
that shit runs like dirt
timid quartz
cpp 👎
rustic vine
but no static typechecking there
whats with the hate
u can't say rust is better
rust sucks at this
timid quartz
I can't but I can say CPP is bad
rustic vine
how
timid quartz
have fun debugging a segfault lo
rustic vine
how yall be hitting these
timid quartz
python is unfortunately good because of numpy
timid quartz
what is the quote
cpp lets you do a lot but you blow your whole leg off when you make a mistake
or smth
timid quartz
the jvm is a masterpiece.
the <gc pause> jvm is <gc pause> a <gc pause> <gc pause> masterp<gc pause>eice
rustic vine
TRUE
spare quartz
the <gc pause> jvm is <gc pause> a <gc pause> <gc pause> masterp<gc pause>eice
ZGC parallel GC!!!
stop using Java 1.4!!
timid quartz
there's no gc :3
rustic vine
you support a gc on that hardware?
look man
timid quartz
:33
spare quartz
sure
rustic vine
I dont' decide the hardware
spare quartz
not you harry
rustic vine
I just work here
rustic vine
LOL
spare quartz
idk i think ZGC and HotSpot beat you
timid quartz
and it's all done at comptime
timid quartz
idk i think ZGC and HotSpot beat you
ok write a small program to benchmark
spare quartz
benchmark what
timid quartz
idk come up with something that could show a difference between kotlin and rust
when run
rustic vine
pub fn dare<const States: usize, const Inputs: usize>(
A: &SMatrix<f64, States, States>,
B: &SMatrix<f64, States, Inputs>,
Q: &SMatrix<f64, States, States>,
R: &SMatrix<f64, Inputs, Inputs>,
) -> SMatrix<f64, States, States>
where
DefaultAllocator:
Allocator<f64, Const<States>, Const<States>, Buffer = ArrayStorage<f64, States, States>>,
DefaultAllocator:
Allocator<f64, Const<States>, Const<Inputs>, Buffer = ArrayStorage<f64, States, Inputs>>,
DefaultAllocator:
SameShapeAllocator<f64, Const<States>, Const<States>, Const<States>, Const<States>>,
DefaultAllocator: Allocator<(usize, usize), DimMinimum<Const<States>, Const<States>>>,
ShapeConstraint: AreMultipliable<Const<States>, Const<Inputs>, Const<Inputs>, Const<States>>,
ShapeConstraint: SameNumberOfRows<Const<Inputs>, Const<Inputs>>,
ShapeConstraint: SameNumberOfRows<Const<States>, Const<States>, Representative = Const<States>>,
Const<States>: DimMin<Const<States>, Output = Const<States>>,
{```
state of rust linalgmake it small so it's not hellish to write
spare quartz
idk come up with something that could show a difference between kotlin and rust
i would, but
yknow the common benchmark problems
timid quartz
```rust
pub fn dare<const States: usize, const Inputs: usize>(
A: &SMatrix<f...
meanwhile the c++ templates hidden from view
spare quartz
it's not exactly testable between the two because then you'd have to factor in like JVM startup (which sure you could complain about, but you're not writing programs to do simple benchmarks)
rustic vine
meanwhile the c++ templates hidden from view
yea but its infinitely better to write
template <int States, int Inputs>
std::expected<Eigen::Matrix<double, States, States>, DAREError> DARE(
const Eigen::Matrix<double, States, States>& A,
const Eigen::Matrix<double, States, Inputs>& B,
const Eigen::Matrix<double, States, States>& Q,
const Eigen::Matrix<double, Inputs, Inputs>& R,
bool checkPreconditions = true)```mk buddy
spare quartz
if you can write me a benchmark that is testable against... id be happy to..
spare quartz
both would compile to nothing 😭
rustic vine
its ok most of industry linalg looks like this anyway it don't even matter
timid quartz
fortran
timid quartz
both would compile to nothing 😭
what about http server that just serves /index.html
#reqs/min
bruh
spare quartz
sure thats testable
rustic vine
thats what everyones still using
spare quartz
just plain HTTP or HTTPS?
spare quartz
okay let me write you a test
timid quartz
ill check in the morning cause you've been distracting me from sleep for an hour and a half
spare quartz
ill check in the morning cause you've been distracting me from sleep for an hour...
val sck = ServerSocket(80).accept()
val pkg = "HTTP/1.1 200\r\nContent-Type:text/html\r\nContent-Length:11\r\n\r\n<p>hello<p>".encodeToByteArray()
sck.outputStream.write(pkg)
here you go
thats a server
timid quartz
I will sleep very soundly tonight knowing that my opinions are factually correct
rustic vine
also between rust and kotlin prob rust
timid quartz
Based
rustic vine
kt ends up just being more oop slop
spare quartz
also between rust and kotlin prob rust
you will be put on a cross
rustic vine
its better than java though
spare quartz
everything is oop... oop is everything..
timid quartz
```kt
val sck = ServerSocket(80).accept()
val pkg = "HTTP/1.1 200\r\nContent-Typ...
Make it able to accept multiple connections without shutting down to stop “JVM startup time” affecting it
spare quartz
Make it able to accept multiple connections without shutting down to stop “JVM s...
Thread.sleep(5000)
timid quartz
huh
spare quartz
jvm startup time avoidance code
timid quartz
just loop it smh
timid quartz
also so that it can do requests per minute not “how long does one single request take”
timid quartz
you can write kotlin
mmm no I can’t :3
spare quartz
also so that it can do requests per minute not “how long does one single request...
we can just extrapolate the data... 👍
but that depends, do you want it on a virtual or platform thread
timid quartz
nope need large sample size
timid quartz
but that depends, do you want it on a virtual or platform thread
whatever you think would yield higher performance
timid quartz
ok then just loop it like a simpleton
spare quartz
there is one thing to note thouggh
the actual socket that will be transferring the data is written in asm/c...
timid quartz
cheating
spare quartz
so this test may not exactly be very good
timid quartz
what’s a test that could be done in pure Kotlin then
spare quartz
i dunno
timid quartz
hm
spare quartz
thats the thing with benchmarks
timid quartz
guess rust wins by default GOODNIGHT
timid quartz
Thread.sleep(5000)
Also wow it really takes your bloated JVM 5 seconds to start? That’s so bad
spare quartz
second websocket impl ive made
time to put my own protocol over it
also confirms this
http router code is so simple yet effective it hasn't been updated once since i sent that
day is 1 off because it had to be bootstrapped on the maven, but..
spare quartz
spare quartz
NO
i can’t even send where that’s from cause it’s NSFW
that’s how gross your language is
spare quartz
timid quartz
says the jvm user
spare quartz
says the jvm user
hotspot IS performant
timid quartz
I think you forgot the "not" between "is" and "performant"
spare quartz
i will start yapping in japanese..
spare quartz
NO
timid quartz
and make a program
spare quartz
nothing you do or say will make me write rust
timid quartz
have you gotten your iana email yet
spare quartz
wdym
spare quartz
still under Expert Review
timid quartz
rip
spare quartz
hey its better than them asking me about something
they expect professionalism™️ and i haven't written a professional email in ever
spare quartz
yesterday
timid quartz
gg
timid quartz
uh oh
spare quartz
there
hopefully nothing bounced
the IANA ticket info still says expert review though so most likely nothing asked of me yet
our server had some sort of problem earlier today where it just ceased working in the middle of an HTTP router update which caused all of our screens and microservers to stop responding
PROBABLY an ssh issue. PROBABLY why it needs to be succeeded
spare quartz
i mean, OpenSSH is written in C and has gotten like 9,000 cves..
infinite loop.. rookie mistake
sigh
if i see another spammer scanner ip im gonna lose it
(create surveillance)
timid quartz
"This vulnerability is fixed"
spare quartz
"This vulnerability is fixed"
still happened
rust devs bad
if you can't simulate every edge case that your server could possibly handle while writing it you're ngmi
timid quartz
like Ada or Kotlin can do that
spare quartz
that is a vuln
timid quartz
if this was a cve it'd be like 2.4
timid quartz
there's no rce, no privilege escalation
spare quartz
its still a DOS
timid quartz
I bet Ada would be succeptible to the same thing
spare quartz
thats like saying "sure, i cant use my server... but at least they couldn't read any files!"
spare quartz
I bet Ada would be succeptible to the same thing
id imagine so if they didnt realize what they were coding...
timid quartz
so...not rust bad, but just dev skill issue
spare quartz
(obligatory im not actually serious and the rust devs probably lost the context in something as big as tls)
spare quartz
so...not rust bad, but just dev skill issue
rust dev bad = (rust) dev bad
oh yeah
am really happy to announce my codev is no longer just a trainee 🥳 and hasn't for some time
they can actually program while understanding what they're writing ...
timid quartz
a trainee in beg?
spare quartz
well the whole project was started as a joke
and the person im with (codev) didnt know how to really code at first
he knew a bit of lua with computercraft but thats about it
timid quartz
well the whole project was started as a joke
ic
spare quartz
not brash but
spare quartz
bold and brash honestly would fit as a rust marketing saying im ngl
"fearless concurrency" "blazingly fast"
timid quartz
lmao
spare quartz
wait no can't send that one ehre
timid quartz
けものになりたい
spare quartz
because of a certain
timid quartz
I have seen that music video
timid quartz
onomatopoeia?
spare quartz
yes
timid quartz
if u paid attention in school
spare quartz
if you notice the text behind babios head in the first minute of the video
... and really wahts aorund him ...
you'll see what i mean
spare quartz
if u paid attention in school
okay the only time ive heard that word was in 4th grade
timid quartz
I have seen that music video
I should say, the original* music video
spare quartz
same time i learned what dil...lap..o.dated..
timid quartz
not the bayachao-ruined version
spare quartz
wrong
timid quartz
same time i learned what dil...lap..o.dated..
dilapidated
spare quartz
when I have Rust
why would JS developers ever want to use Ada or Kotlin or Rust
they have JS
too comfy in your r/furry languages.
emm
what was i doing
timid quartz
why would JS developers ever want to use Ada or Kotlin or Rust
because Rust is just better
JS is weird
timid quartz
Kotlin would be a better evolution but Rust is the ultimate form
spare quartz
yeah no
rust is like an infant thats probably gonna die frrom Zika or something
ada is the chad of programming
timid quartz
I don't see a browser with a significantly large chunk of Ada code (Firefox w/ Rust)
I don't see Ada in the Linux kernel
spare quartz
I don't see a browser with a significantly large chunk of Ada code (Firefox w/ R...
okay but thats just not fair
mozilla are literally one of the drivers behind rust
timid quartz
ok and
spare quartz
I don't see Ada in the Linux kernel
and you're starting to make linus mad
sooo
it should've been ada.
timid quartz
we're not making Linus mad
timid quartz
the people who are like trying to kill Rust at every turn are making Linus mad
spare quartz
nah
timid quartz
Linus is on our side 💪
spare quartz
its literally specific rust devs who make linus mad over the drama they make
if it were ada devs they'd have 80 years of wisdom to bring with them..!
timid quartz
it's literally the devs who are religiously stamping rust out that are making linus mad
spare quartz
name one.
timid quartz
Hector Martin
spare quartz
"former lead developer on the Asahi Linux"
timid quartz
oh wait
spare quartz
isnt that
spare quartz
Christoph Hellwig
what'd he do..
timid quartz
complained about "rust code in the dma tree" when the code was not even in the dma tree
spare quartz
maybe they should start using GNATbuild
i think that'd fix every problem in the kernel
timid quartz
here's the reply I was looking for
I was hopeful, and I've tried to just see if this long thread results
in anything constructive, but this seems to be going backwards (or at
least not forwards).
The fact is, the pull request you objected to DID NOT TOUCH THE DMA
LAYER AT ALL.
It was literally just another user of it, in a completely separate
subdirectory, that didn't change the code you maintain in _any_ way,
shape, or form.
I find it distressing that you are complaining about new users of your
code, and then you keep bringing up these kinds of complete garbage
arguments.
Honestly, what you have been doing is basically saying "as a DMA
maintainer I control what the DMA code is used for".
And that is not how *any* of this works.
oh shit linus going hard
spare quartz
```
I was hopeful, and I've tried to just see if this long thread results
in any...
didnt the dma guy in question resign shortly after
timid quartz
yeah lmao
spare quartz
been thinking bout java os again
spare quartz
actually, it can
timid quartz
mmmmmmmmmmm nope
spare quartz
mmmmmm yes
JavaOS is based on a hardware architecture native microkernel, running on platforms including ARM, PowerPC, SPARC, StrongARM, and IA-32 (x86). The Java virtual machine runs on the microkernel. All device drivers are written in Java and executed by the virtual machine. A graphics and windowing system implementing the Abstract Window Toolkit (AWT) application programming interface (API) is also written in Java.
timid quartz
sounds like a failed project
spare quartz
unfortunately it was practically just an experiment by Sun and was discontinued :<
spare quartz
*JavaOS is based on a hardware architecture native microkernel, running on platf...
UNIRONICALLY
i believe this is a good kernel design
目は痛む。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。
spare quartz
i know who that is.
timid quartz
what do u think about that
spare quartz
i believe it is quite False.
timid quartz
go learn Cobol
spare quartz
no
timid quartz
yes
spare quartz
AAGUGH
timid quartz
Kotlin and Ada and C are just fads
spare quartz
timid quartz
COBOL is here forever
spare quartz
it didnt, actually
spare quartz
what article is that from?
timid quartz
spare quartz
if it includes "DARPA" its not the military as a whole
spare quartz
guy with 6 updoots and doesn't realize ada has all the certifications to do the things it is designed to do
and doesn't realize WE'RE HELPING YOU GET CERTIFIED TOO!!
spare quartz
and doesn't realize WE'RE HELPING YOU GET CERTIFIED TOO!!
AdaCore is helping rust get into aircraft n such
rust dev when the ada dev is supporting them.. they can't believe it..
timid quartz
spare quartz
timid quartz
AdaCore is helping *rust* get into aircraft n such
because they recognize that Ada is legacy and needs to get replaced!!!
spare quartz
not legacy*
lest i remind you the reason languages such as ada and cobol are called "legacy" is cause they work so well for decades nobody even bothers to see if they've been updated
meanwhile rust has to constantly move up its "MSRV"
timid quartz
cause we're evolving 💪
spare quartz
cause you're in your infancy and suck.
timid quartz
whereas you're STAGNATING!!!!!!!
spare quartz
im gonna go draw ada as a furry or something now
when i really SHOULD be doing ym work but you'ev distracted me so much
normal bison
why are you drawing american disabilities act as a furry
spare quartz
why are you drawing american disabilities act as a furry
Kys.
normal bison
ugh youre weird
normal bison
spare quartz
でびるコネクショん、これすげぇなぁ～～～～～～。
timid quartz
ugh youre weird
it's cause atp uses ada and kotlin
if atp used rust like a normal person
spare quartz
okay well
i dont wanna say the full thought process there
because then i would be called weird even more ☹️
timid quartz
@spare quartz why Kotlin
spare quartz
<@516049910622191626> why Kotlin
?
timid quartz
why
spare quartz
elaborate
spare quartz
chose it because i wanted an easier alternative to java
its good because its simple to write, has good corporate backing, can compile to multiplatform targets with relative ease
people would want to use it when they want something written fast like NJS, run fast on the JVM, and distributable with ease (since most consumers will have a JVM present)
unless by the latter point you mean developers, in which see the first and second points
it is occupationally viable
does this answer all of your questions?
timid quartz
hmmm sure
timid quartz
its good because its simple to write, has good corporate backing, can compile to...
Also rust
- easy to write
- good corporate backing
- easy multiplatform compilation
spare quartz
rust is not easy to write, has more specialized career options over kt*, and isn't as multiplatform in the same markets as kotlin is
you have your merits but you are not an "everything" language
spare quartz
rust is not easy to write, has more specialized career options over kt*, and isn...
the first point especially. you may argue your language is safer and prevents more errors during runtime, potentially speeding up development time, but this is not writing speed. rust will never be as fast to write as kotlin and this is a fact we have to accept
timid quartz
the first point was made ironically yes
rust definitely is an “everything” language
some things may be a little harder but it’s doable
timid quartz
not what I was referencing either
spare quartz
what are you talking about, then?
spare quartz
thats not what im talking about
because what im saying is its not "the best option" in every field/domain
timid quartz
but it’s still a strong contender
spare quartz
sure, but so are many other languages of today
spare quartz
what are you talking about, then?
please elaborate though, i'd like to know what exactly you're talking about
timid quartz
which is why choosing a language is impossible!!!
timid quartz
please elaborate though, i'd like to know what exactly you're talking about
Like I’m not saying “rust can do anything strictly because it’s Turing complete,” I’m saying that rust can do anything because it combines low level speed with high level abstraction to the point where everything from web apps to game engines to network servers to OSes can and have been written in it
spare quartz
Like I’m not saying “rust can do anything strictly because it’s Turing complete,...
but thats applicable to every turing complete, compilable and optimizable language
off the top of my head: C++
arguably JVM languages as well...
timid quartz
Rust has automatic memory management and memory safety over C++, and speed from not having a GC over Java
spare quartz
C++ has automatic memory management as well
and the JVM GC can be considered a non-point depending on the application
for example, enterprise applications
i would mention ada here as it's... everything we're saying, but
occupational viability..!!
timid quartz
“function” vs “fn”
timid quartz
“returns” vs “->”
spare quartz
mad? MAD? mutually assured destruction, like that present in many nuclear doctrines around the word...
many of whoms systems are
written in Ada?
yup.
timid quartz
for example, enterprise applications
me when my enterprise app that’s serving millions of concurrent users has to put everything on hold to clean up
spare quartz
me when my enterprise app that’s serving millions of concurrent users has to put...
this just isn't a point
timid quartz
but it is
spare quartz
no, its not
timid quartz
especially with hotspot which everyone uses
spare quartz
java has been in use for that purpose for decades, and the systems are distributed
timid quartz
You may say ZGC or whatever but that’s probably still experimental and not the default
spare quartz
what you're arguing holds no water because it's been tested
timid quartz
java *has been in use for that purpose* for decades, and the systems are *distri...
Oh no, now instead of one system pausing to GC I have 10
App is now 10x slower
spare quartz
aera do you understand what individuality means
or is that not taught in the rustonomicon
additionally, the GC is not some big scary thing stopping the programs for 5 seconds flat
its performance is INCREDIBLY data dependent
timid quartz
All I hear is one part of the system finishes GC but has to wait on another part to finish GC before it can do anything, and by that time the first part is GCing again
spare quartz
but thats just not how the gc works?
timid quartz
its performance is INCREDIBLY data dependent
JVM copium
can’t handle the fact your vm is slow
spare quartz
im trying to argue in good faith here 😭
spare quartz
its performance is INCREDIBLY data dependent
i feel like it shouldn't go without saying the last thing you told me you saw of the JVM's GC was modded minecraft which
isn't at all a similar dataset to that which JVMs are used day to day
timid quartz
every app’s performance is data dependent so you can’t really use that as an argument
timid quartz
but the fact is the “VM” part and the GC add on non-negligible overhead to your app
simply because they exist
spare quartz
and in many applications, such overhead is negliable compared to the benefits we gain from a JVM
this is why nothing can be applicable to everything
timid quartz
benefits like?
spare quartz
what i've said earlier, im not repeating what ive said in full: ease of developer experience, a massive community, and reasonable speed
timid quartz
rust and other compiled languages also have a refined developer experience, massive community, but with even more speed
spare quartz
this is why nothing can be applicable to *everything*
yes, you can argue that "rust would be faster," sure, but that just isn't something that you can extrapolate to every feasible problem
please, try convincing a massive company with an already refined JVM or other stack to "convert to rust"
whilst what they have works perfectly for their problems and is maintained to this day
timid quartz
That’s a lost cause just like it’s a lost cause to get any company to switch off of what they’re using currently without a strong reason
spare quartz
you admit rust simply isn't a strong enough reason to do so then
again: i'm not arguing against rust here or trying to say that it's bad
it's just not applicable to everything. ada, and everything else is the same
timid quartz
you admit rust simply isn't a strong enough reason to do so then
Again you can’t extrapolate this because companies DO switch technologies when there’s a strong enough reason
there are and have been companies that switched because rust was a strong enough reason
spare quartz
and there are also companies that have switched to another stack from rust... or another stack separate from this conversation entirely...
timid quartz
yes
but my personal opinion is that rust is the strongest reason there is
And I know my opinions are factually correct :3
spare quartz
i'd just like to implore here... what are you trying to argue?
aside from "rust is the best" or whatever crap. what are you trying to say besides that
timid quartz
rust is the best :3
spare quartz
cause i feel like im speaking to a brick wall in all honesty 😭
timid quartz
switch now :3
timid quartz
No it doesn’t
spare quartz
isn't mispelled like Aera too
timid quartz
Getting started with Rust by way of Ada
timid quartz
AND THE JVM TOO!!!
JVM sucks
We already had cross compilation
GC is slow
timid quartz
nothing ever happens
spare quartz
JVM sucks
We already had cross compilation
GC is slow
nah i think im just gonna respond to this by
timid quartz
JVM copium
spare quartz
yknow if the JS engine was written as well as the JVM
maybe id even be agreeing with it like i am with the JVM
unfortunately its a piece of crap that has to deal with dynamic typing
spare quartz
JVM copium
timid quartz
unfortunately its a piece of crap that has to deal with dynamic typing
[] == false
spare quartz
[] == false
unironically a statement that would fit with C
we've gone full circle
OMG THANK YOU
:3
ughh
you're so booooring
ダサい
timid quartz
You’re so duuuumb
spare quartz
successful tcp conenction over websocket
0 = CONNECT
1, 4 = hostname length (10)
5, 14 = hostname ("javart.zip")
15, 16 = remote port (22)
17, 18 = local port (38189)
rsut :frrown
oh my GOD
simpler implementation my ass (other protcool)
spare quartz
@timid quartz FUCK YOUUU
I JUST LOGGED ONTO OUR IANA COMTACT AND SAW YOUR EMAIL
honestly I was going in expecting something bad since it was only 230 bytes 😭
spare quartz
i cant even find where you did it
cause tehres so many misplaced requests from servse like nokia
timid quartz
I JUST LOGGED ONTO OUR IANA COMTACT AND SAW YOUR EMAIL
TROLL
spare quartz
timid quartz
if you dont buy this magazine, we'll delete ada and kotlin
spare quartz
if you dont buy this magazine, we'll delete ada and kotlin
WHAT
timid quartz
smh atp
you don't have [email protected]
I wanted to send you mail
without trolling you
spare quartz
i am so tempted to send an image
spare quartz
you don't have `[email protected]`
hold on what the server say if there isnt a valid email
i forgot what i did
timid quartz
510 Bad address
spare quartz
skill issue
timid quartz
make urself a mailbox...
timid quartz
thecat 
spare quartz
but dont send him anything too crazy since he doesnt know you...
we also have DMARC stuff but you're not allowed to send anything to those mailboxes
timid quartz
but dont send him anything too crazy since he doesnt know you...
I don't know your codev either so I don't have any interest in such
timid quartz
we also have DMARC stuff but you're not allowed to send anything to those mailbo...
dmarc 👎
did you do it because of my funny email :3
spare quartz
I don't know your codev either so I don't have any interest in such
(cause you're not cool!!!)
what no
we've had DMARC for half a year
i've just never enforced it
timid quartz
ooh gg
spare quartz
UGH
timid quartz
mmm
spare quartz
i get so mad when the rumbling outside is a garbage truck and not thunder
spare quartz
too bad i dont open my windows to check the weather
spare quartz
STOP BEING A WEATHER NERD 🤬
spare quartz
i wish
spare quartz
what is it coded in ?
timid quartz
but you COULD download supercell-wx
or like granalyst level 3 or gr2analyst
or whwatever
timid quartz
what is it coded in ?
C++ prettys ure
spare quartz
id never use something coded in C++.
timid quartz
id never use something coded in C++.
your loss
you could make an app in ada or kotlin if you wanted
spare quartz
ughh
timid quartz
level 3 data is publically available lmao
timid quartz
why
spare quartz
i love stormy weather so much
spare quartz
level 3 data is publically available lmao
thats great but
idk what that means
what is level 1/2/4/5/6/7/8/9 data
timid quartz
it indicates level of processing
level 4+ doesn’t exist it’s just [1, 3]
level 1 is raw, level 2 is minimal and outputs some products (product being like reflectivity, velocity, etc), and level 3 is a lot of processing and outputs a lot more products but at a lower resolution
timid quartz
nws
spare quartz
sounds like an external dependency
unfortunately i know some of the equipment required to achieve that data and most of it is currently beyond my reach. but i do wish to eventually get such equipment
im going to go off a whim and imagine
most of that data is encoded textually? and not in a binary format
spare quartz
i would not be surprised if it were
but let me go find it
nope
this is a binary format
surprising
damn this person has a tiny media tab
suerly they cant have that many posts..
timid quartz
Nuh uh
spare quartz
yu huh
Keyhole Markup Language (KML) is an XML notation for expressing geographic annotation and visualization within two-dimensional maps and three-dimensional Earth browsers. KML was developed for use with Google Earth, which was originally named Keyhole Earth Viewer. It was created by Keyhole, Inc, which was acquired by Google in 2004. KML became an international standard of the Open Geospatial Consortium in 2008.
huh tahts odd
oh KMZ
zip compressed KML file
it IS textually encoded
wait no
it isn't //
In support of the Tropical Rainfall Measuring Mission's (TRMM) Global Validation Program, the NASA TRMM Satellite Validation Office has developed a Radar Software Library for working with the various input radar formats. This is an object-oriented library written in C.
timid quartz
C ❤️
timid quartz
See not even NOAA uses Ada smh
spare quartz
yes they do
timid quartz
Outdated!!!
timid quartz
That’s nasa not noaa
spare quartz
this uses ada
spare quartz
That’s nasa not noaa
omg you're so dummbbb
NOAA and the USAF both worked on it with NASA
ada!!!!!!!
theres no way people are still complaining over leds and incandescetns
timid quartz
Well Ada is still in use so it’s definitely possible
spare quartz
what was that in reply to
spare quartz
schizo
timid quartz
theres no way people are still complaining over leds and incandescetns
This
timid quartz
Incandescent bulbs are a lot easier on the eyes, but then yellow tinted LEDs also exist
spare quartz
incandescent bulbs have no use to exist
the only benefit they have is just having a naturally higher CRI than many cheap LEDs
timid quartz
My mom once got the coldest possible LEDs for our kitchen, but after having to deal with that for a week straight at 5:30 in the morning, I convinced her to get warmer ones
spare quartz
but.. just spend money on better, longer lasting, more efficient LEDs
spare quartz
My mom once got the coldest possible LEDs for our kitchen, but after having to d...
i would suggest the color-changable ones but
iirc those can get pretty expensive even for single bulbs
timid quartz
Those are even more expensive
Warm colored lights are just objectively superior anyway
timid quartz
Voice to text is not helping me out today
spare quartz
imagine needing a computer to type out your words for you
timid quartz
It’s either that or type one word per two minutes with one hand on my phone
timid quartz
My other hand has coffee in it
timid quartz
I can't really when I'm walking
but I've sat down now
gotta figure out the last OS project 😭
spare quartz
I can't really when I'm walking
hey!! dont talk to me when you're walking!!
timid quartz
I HAVE 3 DAYS
timid quartz
hey!! dont talk to me when you're walking!!
spare quartz
im not THAT important
spare quartz
I HAVE 3 DAYS
wiat what're you doing now
timid quartz
wiat what're you doing now
OS project
sitting in office hours
a little over 2h before office hours begin lmao
surprised there's not more ppl here
(skipping class for this too lmao)
spare quartz
OS project
well i get that but like
an entire OS or some subsystem like you've been doing all year
timid quartz
OH
ok so
for this class
the projects work on an already-implemented toy OS
what the projects are is adding features
so like this one is file permissions, login, and larger files
spare quartz
ohhh, file attributes
and using a ulong on the allocation table
sounds easy enough
timid quartz
and using a ulong on the allocation table
also not exactly because this thing uses inodes
timid quartz
is there some standard you have to adhere to like POSIX
the poorly-defined one from the TAs
spare quartz
also not exactly because this thing uses inodes
i haven't really studied FSes ahead of FAT
so i dunno how inodes work
spare quartz
the poorly-defined one from the TAs
ough
you could add JVM functionality for that..
snow oak
this script works fine so far, just want opinions on it
any suggestions on how to make it better
or optimize it
rustic vine
this script works fine so far, just want opinions on it
get rid of the warns and prints unless they are for debugging
this is a personal preference, but I see a lot of people new to code they like to put warns and prints saying "X code is starting", "Y code is finished", "Z code is running", and personally I just think it clutters the output
pls use consistent casing
remove useless comments
-- Services
-- Functions
use typechecking
stop using pairs
wth is instance::BasePart
spare quartz
From: "Aerasto" <[email protected]>
To: "ATPStorages" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 09:03:25 -0400
Message-ID: [email protected]
hi atp!!!! hi!!!! hi!!!! hello!!!!
isn't email so much cooler than discord :nauseated:
honestly why did we ever stop using email for casual chats
especially now that it's encrypted with tls, who cares!!!
silly
ok well uh
get NOT trolled cause this email isn't under a fake name going to your iana.contact email
uh
:3
i wish i could email you back, however...
i dont know how to do that
something something IMAP? i dunno
timid quartz
i wish i could email you back, however...
however: I sent it over telnet
and aerasto.xyz doesn't have a server running on it
timid quartz
ok
I sent it over openssl s_client
basically telnet
openssl s_client -starttls smtp -crlf -ign_eof -connect javart.zip:25
timid quartz
telegram 👎
??
spare quartz
the HTTP router already makes a secure line
spare quartz
okay so
timid quartz
you mean not tls?
spare quartz
yes, insecure as a result
spare quartz
SSTP runs over 443
spare quartz
the HTTP router does the TLS setup from the remote computer already and then plugs each sockets
so the sstp server needs to be using a socket unaware of TLS or else it'll be sending trash data
sstp codebase still uses its own commandline/util 💔
need 2 updaet it to use bread_server_lib soon
YOOO
WINDOWWS FINALLY DIDNT ERROR
timid quartz
nice lmao
timid quartz
so the sstp server needs to be using a socket unaware of TLS or else it'll be se...
but you still establish tls over it
spare quartz
but you still establish tls over it
the router does that
the sstp server doesnt
its a bit weird, but basically the router acts as a MITM to give the local server plain data, then when the local server sends data, encrypts it
router also gives its own certificate
timid quartz
that's weird
spare quartz
huh?? windows sends that??
timid quartz
ur router shouldn't be establishing tls
spare quartz
well, it kinda has to, to do its job
it reads off the Host header sent in an HTTP request to determine which local server to send to
timid quartz
can it not just go based off of port
spare quartz
no, since 5 of the servers running would need the same port
spare quartz
443 -> http
444 -> sstp
how would you tell a client connecting thru 443/sstp.javart.zip to use 444?
spare quartz
are you on https://javart.zip
timid quartz
im on necomc.net
spare quartz
same server
timid quartz
im on your vaultwarden now
spare quartz
dont bruteforcet aht ❌
timid quartz
You should maybe turn registrations off
spare quartz
id have to tell my codev to do that
idk how bitwarden works
The admin panel is disabled, please configure the 'ADMIN_TOKEN' variable to enable it
i hate these scanner ips so much
i should probably encrypt our emails..
although the files are inaccessible without a password (externally) they're still plaintext on the server
the question is how
1 分
spare quartz
this joke is incomprehensible to anyone not a BEG developer
heck yeah
doxxing over VPN
spare quartz
rustic vine
you prob see it usually as instance :: BasePart
Oh, yea, no spaces messes with me
But also they're in nonstrict at best?? It's so lax I doubt u need to typecast
spare quartz
he's indexing a namespace of "instance", it's fine 👍
spare quartz
i think they're just casting for the autofill
spare quartz
they don't ? let me look at this again
rustic vine
Also I got ignored anyway
spare quartz
hmm
rustic vine
😢
spare quartz
yeah that is odd
rustic vine
Yea and that's nonstrict or even nocheck
timid quartz
^truth
spare quartz
proud creek
spare quartz
https://fxtwitter.com/zvqlifed/status/1909772552852873288
indeed
spare quartz
so close
just gotta support name servers
and windows connectivity should be a thing
hm
okay
i dont know how netbios works
i think ill just reject these
timid quartz
and windows connectivity should be a thing
👎 prioritize Linux
spare quartz
ゴ ゴ ガジェット汚い爆弾
spare quartz
normal bison
hey i was just looking at these on ebay how much did you get it for
spare quartz
it’s clearly spelled correctly, like how the colour of it is as well
normal bison
ok we're sending you to new zealand
normal bison
bye
wheat hornet
Car
lavish dove
NOOO NOT THE RAM!!!!
spare quartz
good to know
our servers do not depend on linux's dns resolver
time to make our own
timid quartz
HOORARY IT WORKS
Boooooo it works
spare quartz
Boooooo it works
you WILL use our dns
also p.s. we're switching to arch 🤢 beacuse ubuntu is heavyweight for a primarily file server and has issues with ethernet
timid quartz
NEVER
timid quartz
also p.s. we're switching to arch 🤢 beacuse ubuntu is heavyweight for a primari...
Bro don’t switch to arch for a server bad idea
spare quartz
what else do we use ..
timid quartz
use Fedora or smth
spare quartz
is that lighter than arch
timid quartz
No but arch is not as stable
