💽Programming Chat v2

[spare quartz]

hey i have a patch of my last name in arabic!!!

[flint belfry]

that was persian

[spare quartz]

close enough

stop using translate

[spare quartz]

weirdo old person

[spare quartz]

NICE

THATS SO COOL

[timid quartz]

❌

[spare quartz]

:<

[spare quartz]

how can it NOT be cool

[timid quartz]

it is

[rustic vine]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/djHz5zDeRqpOSEMN1kq6r6ZrxVhsGxHuZx9ivdE8fL0/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/Ge1WTwWW4AAGD4G.png%3Alarge?format=webp&width=834&height=152

[proud creek]

Hmmm?

Is this a new replication thingy

Or like test service

Or the new competitive servers thingy

[rustic vine]

no confirmation but most likely the server authoritative stuff

[proud creek]

very interesting

[lavish dove]

woah

wait your making a bios

[spare quartz]

need 2 figure out why the sector count is 0 though

[spare quartz]

well im making a cpu, but to make my life easier, the "BIOS" is just a trap located at the reset vector into kotlin code

[lavish dove]

it kept giving me an error if the chosen sector wasnt zero for some reason

[lavish dove]

woah

[lavish dove]

oh damn that shits crazy

did u know you could use a uh

fuck I forgot what its called

you could use a normal projector

to do lithography

[spare quartz]

i think i saw something on that once

id imagine you'd be given like

[lavish dove]

but you still need tiny robot hands to put in transistors

[spare quartz]

much larger transistors though since you need those giant lasers for nm level stuff

[lavish dove]

yea

[lavish dove]

well the projector works as a laser

I think the problem is placing them

and your not an enterprise so you cant really make a production line

[proud creek]

xkcd

[spare quartz]

YOOOOOOO

[proud creek]

bro whay

[spare quartz]

its nearly here :3

[proud creek]

what did you buy!!!

[spare quartz]

https://booth.pm/ja/items/6372484

[lavish dove]

sudo apt remove --purge alire
sudo apt autoremove
sudo apt clean

AND THEN ALIRE IS STILL USING AN ENTIRE FUCKING GIgABYTE OF SPACE!!!

VSCODE-CPPTOOLS IS ALSO USING A GIGABYTE

WHAT THE FUCK SI WITH TEH SIZE OF THINGS

[spare quartz]

this is why you use the AppImage!!!!!

[spare quartz]

fixed it

the cpu decoder was using the lower bits of SI setting SC at 0x...F0

[full berry]

@timid quartz what is the best way to make a robot follow a line
I think the endless if else if statements code that i was given to work with could use some refactoring, but it also does stupid corrections like if it deviates it rotates for a set amount of time which is stupid because its dependant on the batteries and just is bad design

Specifically arduino

[spare quartz]

hm

hm...

this will be a problem

good enough for science

IT MADE A MESSAGE

[pallid loom]

are you doing worldskills

[spare quartz]

0x002C1000 + (4*512)
loadLBA + (LBA * 512)

[full berry]

Mmmm yes but I'm asking this for something else, we already have some goofy code for ws

Wait dont tell me youre coming

[pallid loom]

Too bad

[full berry]

LOL

No wayy

First qs meetup

[spare quartz]

nerd vs nerd... dear god...

[full berry]

KYS

[full berry]

Do you have any ideas for it though..

The problem i imposed earlier

[pallid loom]

Competition

[full berry]

question mark

[pallid loom]

I'm under a do not disclose agreement made by me

[spare quartz]

i think hes trying to say thats a trade secret-

[full berry]

LOL

Teo

[pallid loom]

there you go

[full berry]

One od the judges is my bff teacher

Tell me or else...

[pallid loom]

We already delt with corrupt judges

We're fine

[full berry]

BRUH I MEANT TO TYPE /J WHAT

[pallid loom]

You seem to be failing

[spare quartz]

No spamming.

Warning 1.

[full berry]

Ok buddy

[spare quartz]

hooray i got more soda!!

[full berry]

Dude i looked st the repo its all if else if else if code

[pallid loom]

Do not spill on your pc

Exposed pc

May I add

[pallid loom]

Rpi + Arduino or just Arduino

[full berry]

Afaik just arduino

[spare quartz]

oh don't worry, if you saw the photos you'd know the motherboard is suspended in air

[pallid loom]

How'd you solve reading qr codes

[spare quartz]

anyways is this thing you guys are talking about a robotics thing

[pallid loom]

Ive seen them.

That's the issue.

[pallid loom]

yes

[spare quartz]

mrow

[full berry]

Wdym how

[spare quartz]

oh cool

[pallid loom]

arduinos have like 0 processing power

[full berry]

The cide is mega easy

Oh we have a

Bruh

[pallid loom]

Qr reader module

[full berry]

I forgor the name of the board wait

[pallid loom]

ESP32-CAM?

[full berry]

Ydsyeysysyeyz

[pallid loom]

Boring

[full berry]

Kys

[pallid loom]

I like to overcomplicate things

[full berry]

THATS WHAT MY TEACHER TELLS ME NOT TO DO

[spare quartz]

you should

[pallid loom]

have this

[full berry]

HE WANTED TO BEHEAD ME WHEN I SHOT DOWN HIS 30 IF ELSE STATEMENT CODE

[spare quartz]

whats the red line for practically

[pallid loom]

centering

[full berry]

Brh what

[pallid loom]

reading it is easy

managing to get near it with the fork is complex

@spare quartz let me send an image rq

[full berry]

Yeah

Dude

[spare quartz]

014-4

[full berry]

Everyone here is incompetent

Teo what ide do you use

If you arduino ide i am going to have you shanked

[spare quartz]

jeez you guys are insane..

[pallid loom]

vscodes good enough for me

[full berry]

THATS WHAT IM SAYINNGGGG

[pallid loom]

but yeah basically

what the red line is for

[full berry]

This isnt even the track what

[pallid loom]

it is..?

[full berry]

No it isnt

[pallid loom]

unless we got a different one..?

[full berry]

Lmfao

We do..

[pallid loom]

send

[full berry]

At least i do

One sec

[pallid loom]

or is this the corruption in action

[full berry]

I am on my phone and in school currently 3d printing a screw

[full berry]

:3

[spare quartz]

disc reading code i need to parameterize ignore

            val disc = this.computer.disc ?: throw IllegalStateException("Please insert a disc")
            val primary = disc.volumeDescriptors.firstNotNullOf { it as? PrimaryVolume }
            val boot = disc.volumeDescriptors.firstNotNullOf { it as? ElToritoBootRecord }
            val entry = boot.readContents(primary, disc.discStream).standardEntries.first { it.bootable }
            val start = entry.loadSegment * 0x10
            val size = (entry.sectorCount * primary.logicalBlockSize).toULong()
            val discStart = entry.loadRBA.toLong() * primary.logicalBlockSize
            disc.discStream.channel.position(discStart)

[full berry]

@pallid loom

This is what i got lol

The one you have is the old one

I literally have the shelf thing from that year in the room lmfao

[spare quartz]

woah

[full berry]

Ignore the yugo flag

[pallid loom]

That is this year

Fascinating

[full berry]

Thats odd

Ok well

Bribery is a powerful tool

[pallid loom]

Do you even need to have a fork

[spare quartz]

astro you can't commit fraud to solve all of your problems

[full berry]

Qhat fork

For the forklift part

[pallid loom]

To lift the boxes

Yes

[full berry]

I mean we do

[pallid loom]

How high does it go

[full berry]

No clue

Its printing rn lmao

[pallid loom]

Interesting

Have you noticed that the build limit is 300mm and the top box is at 327

[full berry]

No i literally got attached to this project days ago

[pallid loom]

Good luck solving that

[full berry]

yeah im gonna kms

[pallid loom]

I made something incredibly cursed

[full berry]

?

I am also currently 3d printing a bunny btw

LLL I JUST CHECKED THE PROTOTYPE

IT DOESNT EVEN REACH THE SECOND FLOOR

AMAZING

but yea teo how do you handle line following corrections for real for real

Here its literally a giant ass switch case

[pallid loom]

no clue haven't started yer

planning on using pid

[spare quartz]

relatable

[pallid loom]

btw this was last year's robots

[full berry]

Pid?

[full berry]

Bruh our fucking robot is called stjepan

Never let a woman choose the name again

[spare quartz]

pretty sure its https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional–integral–derivative_controller

[full berry]

Oh guh

What

[spare quartz]

?

[pallid loom]

yea

[full berry]

What the

[spare quartz]

val start = entry.loadSegment * 0x10
        val size = (entry.sectorCount * primary.logicalBlockSize).toULong()

val discStart = entry.loadRBA.toLong() * primary.logicalBlockSize
        disc.discStream.channel.position(discStart)

gotta copy furry art also hold this sory

[spare quartz]

did something happen

[pallid loom]

your sory isn't accepted

[pallid loom]

good luck.

[full berry]

Nahhhhh

[pallid loom]

you are cooked

[full berry]

Why am i cooked

Your mom is cooked

[pallid loom]

We've been working on our fork prototype for a week and only now got it to work

[full berry]

LOL

[spare quartz]

sounds like a fork issue tbh

[full berry]

Dude you actually have coders

I HAVE NOTHINGGG

[spare quartz]

aren't you a programmer?

[full berry]

Yes but they have a team i have myswlf

And i only found out about this days ago

[spare quartz]

well thats why you gotta lock in

[full berry]

Kys

[spare quartz]

HEY

[full berry]

I have better things to do

[spare quartz]

what do the people on your team even do then, just design crap?

[full berry]

@pallid loom were you on the IT natjecanje yesterday

[full berry]

YES

[spare quartz]

idk teach them or something 😭

[full berry]

woman designs and the other guys just insults everyone

[full berry]

Theyre unwilling

[pallid loom]

You're looking at the only one

[full berry]

Bryg

[pallid loom]

quite literally the only one

[full berry]

How many of you are coming to ws

In ur team i mean

[pallid loom]

2

[full berry]

Oh is the cap 2 or something

[pallid loom]

yes

[full berry]

Breh

[pallid loom]

the team I work with is composed of 3 people

including me

[full berry]

Whats the other persons profession

Ic

[pallid loom]

none really

just there for support

[full berry]

3d moddeling or just

[pallid loom]

or well, mechanics

[full berry]

Jack of all trades

I see

Dude this fucking shitty ass chineese printer

5 more mins until its done and then im going HOME

[pallid loom]

too bad

bambulab A1 mini

my own

[full berry]

what

[pallid loom]

brought to school and it's now chilling there

[full berry]

What the fuck is a bambus a1 mini

[pallid loom]

look it up

[spare quartz]

$370???

but it looks so thin...

[full berry]

Ok thats just unfair

I have some chineese pos that barely prints

And prusa which is ok

[pallid loom]

Thin?

[spare quartz]

the last time i ever saw a 3d printer in person was like, almost 7 years ago

it just doesn't look that capable to me for that amount of money.. but i've never gotten into it

[pallid loom]

not sped up

[spare quartz]

holy crap

[pallid loom]

what it made:

for 350 euro I'd say more than acceptable

[flint belfry]

i want to get a bambu lab over my ender 3 but bambu lab is starting to turn into apple 😭

like their shit is so convinent but theyve started adding tags to their spools and shit???

[full berry]

what the tarnation

[full berry]

what

[flint belfry]

ok hold on

[pallid loom]

RFID to automatically identify the plastic set

nothing major tbh

[flint belfry]

yeah ik

[pallid loom]

I use 3rd party and it works perfectly fine

[flint belfry]

but there was some other thing that people disliked

dont remember what it exactly was

i think it was the spools tho??

[pallid loom]

Lan mode

Privacy concerns

[flint belfry]

oh yeah that

https://www.reddit.com/r/prusa3d/comments/1i3rrz7/the_controversy_regarding_bambu_lab_and_their_new/ this thing too

i dont remember tbh

[pallid loom]

Too bad Prusa is going the same way

MK4 or their new corexy aren't open source

[flint belfry]

you have no idea how bad calibration and leveling is on ender printers it is so fucking annoying

[flint belfry]

aw man

[pallid loom]

and Prusa costs like 2x more

no thanks

[flint belfry]

prusa is supposed to be realiable and shit but if they arent going to be open source then idk

i mean its like

not thatt bad but

[pallid loom]

both are

most printfarms are using Bambu now

their speed is unmatched

[flint belfry]

yeah

[pallid loom]

fast as hell aswell

[flint belfry]

that print speed looks really fucking impressive

i just want something that "works"

the reason i stopped 3d printing wasnt only because i ran out of room

[pallid loom]

that's a bedslinger

corexy is faster

[full berry]

who caressss

pruse is so good

[flint belfry]

but every single god damn time i had to print something i had to relevel the bed (and yes i have the probe sensor)

[flint belfry]

OH

THAT ISNT EVEN THE BIG MODEL THATS THE SMALL MODEL

DAMN

[full berry]

what did you even say

😭

[flint belfry]

I THOUGHT YOU HAD THE CARBON OR WHATEVER

[pallid loom]

isn't my video

[full berry]

kade shut up stop being rich

[full berry]

oh

[flint belfry]

????

[flint belfry]

oh

[pallid loom]

I didn't record it

my printer though

[flint belfry]

oh

[pallid loom]

exact same printer

I just wasnt there at the time

[full berry]

teo what is this crap about there only being a 2 hour window for programming and testing

[pallid loom]

you heard them

[full berry]

no

[pallid loom]

you read it

[full berry]

i refuse

[pallid loom]

too bad

[full berry]

they're probably going to

tweak the times

[pallid loom]

nope

[full berry]

the schedule is too uniform for croatia

fuck you mean nope

[pallid loom]

if anything you'll get less time

been there done that

[full berry]

nahnhahanahanahan

did you see how they used the word "quarantine" for storing the robots 😭

[pallid loom]

yes

I mean TBH it makes sense

[full berry]

idk

BRO

@pallid loom THIS FUCKING GUY

https://cdn.astrohweston.xyz/u/35833b73-3dc4-4f91-b345-3d16c528b8f2.png

[pallid loom]

???

Move to dms btw to not clog

[spare quartz]

52, E8, 28, 01, 74
52 should fail

0x0000000000008308

but why...

ughh this is such a mindfuck

the BIOS trap is loaoding the disc right but the RET code is pointing to undefined memory

[timid quartz]

dawg idk I never made those kinds of robots

if I had to guess, ideally your robot's line sensor would have two actual "sensors" so you could detect which side you deviate from

but there's always the case where you just have to rotate until you find it

[full berry]

there's 5 lmfao

but yeah makes sense

[spare quartz]

🪦

this piece of assembly is going to kill me

[timid quartz]

[spare quartz]

fym yipee..

oh!

i fixed it

apparently CALL/RET are supposed to push the 32-bit versions even in 16-bit mode

wait no i didnt fix it its even more screwey now :<

[timid quartz]

it takes after its creator

[timid quartz]

[timid quartz]

why dont you buy

4000 esp32s

or 4000 picos

[wraith scarab]

LMAO one of my 3d printer pi's has an ip that tries to renew every fucking minute

new ip
expired
new ip
expired

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz fixed the xpath expressions

:3

[pallid loom]

oh btw @timid quartz you're into robotics right btw

[timid quartz]

yeah

[pallid loom]

how would you go about communication between a rpi and arduino

currently planning on using uart

i2c seems excessive..?

the only reason why I use an Arduino is because the rpi lacks analog Pins and I can't be bothered with an adc

[timid quartz]

uhh

you could use uart yeah

or i2c

it depends if you need the synchronous-ness of i2c

or if you want full-duplex with uart

[pallid loom]

full duplex

[timid quartz]

well use uart then

[pallid loom]

arduino is also connected to ultrasonics

don't want them blasting if not needed

I could also do Arduino master and rpi slave

but then I lose the multi core capability

[timid quartz]

use uart ig

[rustic vine]

Run i2c 5+ meters next to 8awg noisy motor power wires

Yw for the free advice

[spare quartz]

xpaath ??

also hi i just woke up

okay so

something in here is pushing onto the stack incorrect

but im ending up with an element missing... 4# 0x00000000:0x00006004 -> 0x0F0F0F0F

[spare quartz]

hm

THERE

got it working

[spare quartz]

https://abc7.com/post/fighter-jet-crashes-san-diego-harbor-2-pilots-rescued/15898438/

STOP CRASHING PLANES

[pallid loom]

what the fuck is signal integrity

[spare quartz]

so annoying

[spare quartz]

IT LOADED THE SECOND STAGE!!!

[spare quartz]

improved debugging ability

[flint belfry]

"improved"

[spare quartz]

yes it is improved

[lavish dove]

woah

[lavish dove]

OMFG

[spare quartz]

okay...

PUSH, even on an imm8, pushes a 16-bit value

that fixes all of my problems

[full berry]

i just noticed the

ruben sim bot is back online

time to test this bitch out

ok so i'm just gonna post this here so i dont get murdered

https://cdn.astrohweston.xyz/u/becd3888-25ed-445e-b8b6-dd2ece463775.png

now it's time to see if this is fact or cap

alright already have one server to my name

time to keep going

wow it isnt detecting the second one amazing

not scraping enough

[full berry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmjUlFIaNLE

[timid quartz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/991764686511026286/1109392448385458236/attachment-2-1.gif

[spare quartz]

AERA

acn you fix my cpu..

ignore the comment

ignore the comment

thats not for you

[pallid loom]

not for him but it's written by you

[spare quartz]

okay cause

i sent that image to someone else too

[pallid loom]

mhm sure bud

[spare quartz]

jusut make robots or whatever it is you do

❌

[timid quartz]

your "british" "boyfriend" whose name is definitely not terry

[pallid loom]

the timeline infection

[spare quartz]

EW NO

❌

[timid quartz]

LOL TEO

[pallid loom]

am I wrong

[timid quartz]

listen all I'm saying is you both have a SO and you're both very mysterious about them

[spare quartz]

visually no

[spare quartz]

i am not mysterious..

[timid quartz]

idk what this is even doing

[pallid loom]

okay government contractor

[spare quartz]

whats there not to undersatnd

[timid quartz]

the purpose of doing those reads

[spare quartz]

this is apart of a BIOS interrupt

[timid quartz]

a part*

smh

[spare quartz]

same thing

anyways

im writing a discord library for that so...

and terry wouldn't use kotlin

so theres my proof

[timid quartz]

just get your so to use a normal discord lib smh

[spare quartz]

no

because the alternative is writing python

[timid quartz]

https://github.com/kordlib/kord

[spare quartz]

❌

[timid quartz]

✅

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/YzBENUJtr1Q

Translate .

[timid quartz]

this is you

you've had a problem from a very early age

[spare quartz]

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN

and bayachao is """worse""" than me cause they can actually draw everything that comes to their head..

[timid quartz]

just get them to use this

less work

[spare quartz]

no..

i wnana write it 🥺

[timid quartz]

so im assuming offset 00 is the "size of dap"

[spare quartz]

yeah

[timid quartz]

i'm guessing + 2 means + 2 bytes

[spare quartz]

yeah

[timid quartz]

it's possible it's not liking that offset + 6 read

make a requestmemoryat32

instead of trying to read two 16s

also 8 bytes is 64 not 48

[spare quartz]

well... the reason for the separation is cause its in segment;offset format, so..

i think you've solved it!!

i shuold use a 4u instead of a 6u!!!

[timid quartz]

.

[spare quartz]

LBA is 48 bits

the remainder 2 bytes are irrelevant

[timid quartz]

do a normal read

but just ignore the last two bytes then

[spare quartz]

sooo

read48

[timid quartz]

it might not like the 48 read anyways

[spare quartz]

(readBinary is a separate function apart of BinaryUtil that just stitches together bytes)

[timid quartz]

do aligned reads smh

don't make the cpu cry

[spare quartz]

idk how :<

[timid quartz]

do in powers of 2 starting from 8

8 = byte aligned
16 = half-word aligned
32 = word aligned
64 = dword aligned

[spare quartz]

well

[timid quartz]

so if u want 48 then read the whole 64 and trim the 2 bytes you don't need yourself rather than trying to read 48 bytes flat

[spare quartz]

this is virtualized so... 48 shouldn't be anything thats less performant than 64

(in fact it'd be faster since the stitching process has to deal with 2 less bytes)

[timid quartz]

idk what part is even reading incorrectly but

[spare quartz]

you made me figure it out indirectly

unfdortuntately i acnt test until after ive made this bot

[timid quartz]

also if you have a request32 why do two request16s

[spare quartz]

again segment:offset

this is REAL MODE

take yo ass back to LONG MODE

[timid quartz]

why tf are you writing real mode code

get a bios that already has the call implemented

smh

[spare quartz]

because this is a cpu 😭

I AM THE BIOS WRITER

[timid quartz]

👎

[spare quartz]

the bios is technically inside the cpu in this model

BUT THATS IRRELEVANT FOR THE GUEST

[timid quartz]

but yeah you should do uh

4u * 0x10

I wonder if 6u without the 0x10 would work too

[spare quartz]

too bad i cant use oen of these :<

[timid quartz]

wait no

6u wuldnt work

[spare quartz]

abccddccccccxx
ab[cc][dd]ccccccxx exp
ab[cc]dd[cc]ccccxx 6u

[timid quartz]

what

[spare quartz]

what

[timid quartz]

what does that mean

[spare quartz]

a - size
b - unused
cc - offset
dd - segment
cccc{cc} - lba (forgot 2 cs)
xx - pad

obviously...

[timid quartz]

0x0 size of dap
0x1 unused
0x2 # sectors
0x3 # sectors
0x4 seg offset ptr
0x5 seg offset ptr
0x6 seg offset ptr
0x7 seg offset ptr

[spare quartz]

guhguhguhugh

my memory size is 4 okay.

[timid quartz]

wait why * 0x10

[spare quartz]

absolute address = (segment * 0x10) + offset

[timid quartz]

oh I was reading that wrong

but then why would you want to use two 4u

[spare quartz]

?

wait

[timid quartz]

you said 4u rather than 6u

[spare quartz]

SDIOFKSSFDFLKSMF

the sector size part o the struct leaked out of my brain 😭

[timid quartz]

I can tell

[spare quartz]

rude..

im just watching these 3 dogs dance okay

[timid quartz]

"if declaring the segement and offset separately, the offset must be declared before the segment"

[spare quartz]

cause little endian

[timid quartz]

sounds to me that EITHER the segment + offset could have already happened and been stored at that memory

or both could be separate

[spare quartz]

they're definitely separate

[timid quartz]

ok then what's wrong with the code

it seems like you are reading it correctly

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spare quartz]

well somehow im n

n

wait

i think its a fromDiscLBA issue 😦

i just remembered it's reading a random part of an elf file, not putting it in the wrong memory..

ill get backt o you when i run it again..

[timid quartz]

stupid discord lib

are you gonna put it under bread experts @spare quartz

[spare quartz]

yeah

it's set to private rn though cause idk about copyright yet

[timid quartz]

well

if u uh

leave no license

then you reserve all rights

[spare quartz]

oaky but im not the owner

[timid quartz]

wdym you're writing it and its under bread experts

how are you NOT the owner

[spare quartz]

cause i wasn't told where it should go!!!

and beg is where we put everything made by us by default

[timid quartz]

let me at it

i wanna ruin it

[spare quartz]

no. unauthorized .. .

[timid quartz]

i wanna ruin this discord lib

lemme innnnnnnnn

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[spare quartz]

and PLUS its for my partner and i will not let you see that ..

[timid quartz]

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/d0oPe63T6ek?list=RDd0oPe63T6ek

[timid quartz]

guess I'll just have to make a better discord lib

[spare quartz]

add translated captions to every bayachao music video and MAYBE

ill give you read access

[timid quartz]

just get google translate to

[spare quartz]

ew

[timid quartz]

for only read access that ain't worth

[spare quartz]

the captions on this video are so bad btw

[timid quartz]

skill issue

[spare quartz]

hey i didnt write htem..

[timid quartz]

but you're trying to use them

[spare quartz]

no

they're SO bad i can't see them

[timid quartz]

it's fine I don't need read access to your discord lib anyways

I'll make a better one

[spare quartz]

(worse

[timid quartz]

better

[spare quartz]

probably written in like

umm

Zig

🤢

[timid quartz]

nah I have to compete with a kotlin lib in kotlin

where mine will really shine is in the fact that its creator doesn't have a chunk of their head missing

[spare quartz]

WHAT

[timid quartz]

I’m jk

[spare quartz]

ygh im so tired

[timid quartz]

Go sleep

[spare quartz]

no

[timid quartz]

Yes

[spare quartz]

uim gonna listen to mroe bayacho

and code

[timid quartz]

dumb

Code written while tired is code full of bugs

[spare quartz]

no

my code is so good im impervious to bugs

[timid quartz]

ok then explain the bug you are having in your cpu

that you were talking about up there

[spare quartz]

umm

[timid quartz]

hmmmmm?

[spare quartz]

GRUB skill issue

[timid quartz]

Well

I doubt grub is the one with the skill issue

[spare quartz]

nya

[spare quartz]

okay i think that works

yay!

[timid quartz]

mm I don’t think it does

[spare quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/the-jonklers-wrestling-ring-jonkler-joker-batman-gif-1754326297961282708

[timid quartz]

How are you even gonna make it through basic

[spare quartz]

basic authentication? base64, duh

[timid quartz]

8 weeks physical activity no bayachao no coding

[spare quartz]

okay but

coding eventually

[timid quartz]

How many pushups can u even do in a minute rn

[spare quartz]

um

0

:3

[timid quartz]

You’re cooked

[spare quartz]

also im so proud of programming chat

[timid quartz]

They gonna kick you out

[spare quartz]

lets delete everything else

[timid quartz]

Mostly because it’s just us yapping

You being stupid and me being mean to you

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/n3gHAqxWAj0?list=RDd0oPe63T6ek

[timid quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-6420351794930725971

[spare quartz]

i've got such a good idea

[timid quartz]

going outside and touching grass?

good idea

Although the sunlight might fry you

[spare quartz]

channel inherits snowflake :3

[timid quartz]

User inherits snowflake too then

[spare quartz]

yup

[timid quartz]

But hear me out

Composition >> inheritance

[spare quartz]

ew

[timid quartz]

This is the problem with OOPers like Kotlin users

[timid quartz]

Show more code

Am board

[spare quartz]

cheater

[timid quartz]

Are you using ktor under the hood for this or?

[spare quartz]

no this is just the jdk

im only using the serialization library

[timid quartz]

Oh so you’re also writing HTTP directly into a socket here

[spare quartz]

kinnda

HttpsURLConnection handles a bit of it

[timid quartz]

Is that in the JDK?

[spare quartz]

its kinda like my ada http library in that regard

[spare quartz]

yeah

[timid quartz]

huh interesting

I stand by what I said about you being a great and probably very die-hard C developer in another life

[spare quartz]

:X:

[timid quartz]

This is C developer behavior though

Writing your own dependencies rather than using premade ones

Should I start a C developer arc

[spare quartz]

no...

it sent a message

[timid quartz]

I think I should...

[spare quartz]

hm

okay i got my token

pets

NO WAY IT WORKS

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz what is a good name for a http library

...that's not just "http"

[spare quartz]

simple_http

[timid quartz]

meh alr

I should also do that json-rpc thing in ada

[spare quartz]

ChannelObject(id=Snowflake(raw=1334452220334178305, timestamp=1738228602251, workerID=0, processID=0, increment=1), type=SERVER_TEXT, lastMessageID=Snowflake(raw=1339674942110699542, timestamp=1739473796156, workerID=0, processID=1, increment=22))

[timid quartz]

should I make my own json parser too

[spare quartz]

if you so please

ChannelObject(id=Snowflake(raw=1334452220334178305, timestamp=1738228602251, workerID=0, processID=0, increment=1), type=SERVER_TEXT, guildID=Snowflake(raw=1334452219898232862, timestamp=1738228602147, workerID=2, processID=0, increment=30), lastMessageID=Snowflake(raw=1339674942110699542, timestamp=1739473796156, workerID=0, processID=1, increment=22), flags=[])

bitfields...

more...

there's this undocumented "icon_emoji" thing

ChannelObject(id=Snowflake(raw=1334452220334178305, timestamp=1738228602251, workerID=0, processID=0, increment=1), type=SERVER_TEXT, guildID=Snowflake(raw=1334452219898232862, timestamp=1738228602147, workerID=2, processID=0, increment=30), position=2, name=boardroom, permissionOverwrites=[OverwriteObject(id=Snowflake(raw=1334452219898232862, timestamp=1738228602147, workerID=2, processID=0, increment=30), type=ROLE, allow=0, deny=1024)], topic=#secret-admin-furry-rp, nsfw=false, lastMessageID=Snowflake(raw=1339674942110699542, timestamp=1739473796156, workerID=0, processID=1, increment=22), rateLimit=0, parentID=Snowflake(raw=1334452219898232863, timestamp=1738228602147, workerID=2, processID=0, increment=31), flags=[], emojiIcon=EmojiIcon(id=null, name=👋), themeColor=null)

fully documented channel

i wonder

what if i self bot and ran it here

[timid quartz]

[rustic vine]

please

please.post

please.get

👍

[timid quartz]

lmao

@rustic vine @spare quartz meson, bazel, or vanilla make

[spare quartz]

ill take what you just said to me as an insult

[rustic vine]

cmake n make

[timid quartz]

eugh cmake

[rustic vine]

bazel is um

hell

idk what meson is

[timid quartz]

cmake gave me a headache the last time I tried to understand it

[rustic vine]

how what

cmake has prolly the best integration too

tbf though cpp build systems suck regardless

only reason header only exists

[timid quartz]

cpp < c

[rustic vine]

I use cpp a lot more

and don't know c as well

so I can't rlly comment

[rustic vine]

raii is nice though

u can't deny that

but yeah back on topic I'd prob use cmake

I struggled with bazel last time I used it

perhaps meson is good I've never used it

[timid quartz]

it's nice but just remember to deinit your stuff smh

[rustic vine]

im forgetful and lazy

u know how it is

but eliminating a whole class of ub is great

and the semantics are solid

just remember to never use any stl containers other than vector

(all others suck)

[spare quartz]

so its not complete yet but

ChannelObject(id=Snowflake(raw=1264496483957346346, timestamp=1721549854984, workerID=1, processID=1, increment=42), type=SERVER_PUBLIC_THREAD, guildID=Snowflake(raw=346444423271415819, timestamp=1502669187134, workerID=1, processID=0, increment=11), position=null, name=💽Programming Chat v2, permissionOverwrites=null, topic=null, nsfw=null, lastMessageID=Snowflake(raw=1339692486351786036, timestamp=1739477979029, workerID=1, processID=1, increment=52), bitrate=64000, userLimit=0, rateLimit=0, ownerID=Snowflake(raw=195942662241648640, timestamp=1466786771117, workerID=1, processID=0, increment=0), parentID=Snowflake(raw=1264495613051932702, timestamp=1721549647344, workerID=0, processID=1, increment=30), lastPinTimestamp=2024-08-31T15:29:46+00:00, rtcRegion=null, messageCount=35548, memberCount=50, threadMetadata=ThreadMetadata(archived=false, archiveAfter=4320, archivedAt=2024-07-21T08:17:34.984000+00:00, locked=false, invitable=null, createdAt=2024-07-21T08:17:34.984000+00:00), flags=[], totalMessagesSent=35666, emojiIcon=null, themeColor=null)

this is what i got

[rustic vine]

snowflake

what are snowflakes

they sound fancy

[spare quartz]

ids

[rustic vine]

is that some sharding thing

oh

wha

oh its just a container

[rustic vine]

oh ok cool

look at you with your classes and stuff

should've just used a struct

nvm those don't exist

[timid quartz]

classes 👎

[timid quartz]

this is a data class in Kotlin

[rustic vine]

yeah but those are still just classes in a disguise

[timid quartz]

everything is a class in disguise when you're using the jvm

[rustic vine]

unfortunately

[spare quartz]

not true

[rustic vine]

oh ok adastorages

[spare quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316360839290421252/516800498309922833/ACkNZaf.gif

[timid quartz]

ur bytecode is literally called a class file

[spare quartz]

your mom is a class file

[timid quartz]

https://www.jsonrpc.org/specification

[spare quartz]

go.

[timid quartz]

go???

[spare quartz]

GO WRITE IT

[rustic vine]

write it in go

[timid quartz]

if err != nil {
  panic("aaa")
}

[spare quartz]

god theres so many undocmented fields

ChannelObject(id=Snowflake(raw=1264496483957346346, timestamp=1721549854984, workerID=1, processID=1, increment=42), type=SERVER_PUBLIC_THREAD, guildID=Snowflake(raw=346444423271415819, timestamp=1502669187134, workerID=1, processID=0, increment=11), position=null, name=💽Programming Chat v2, permissionOverwrites=null, topic=null, nsfw=null, lastMessageID=Snowflake(raw=1339695692263985233, timestamp=1739478743378, workerID=2, processID=1, increment=81), bitrate=64000, userLimit=0, rateLimit=0, ownerID=Snowflake(raw=195942662241648640, timestamp=1466786771117, workerID=1, processID=0, increment=0), parentID=Snowflake(raw=1264495613051932702, timestamp=1721549647344, workerID=0, processID=1, increment=30), lastPinTimestamp=2024-08-31T15:29:46+00:00, rtcRegion=null, messageCount=35581, memberCount=50, threadMetadata=ThreadMetadata(archived=false, archiveAfter=4320, archivedAt=2024-07-21T08:17:34.984000+00:00, locked=false, invitable=null, createdAt=2024-07-21T08:17:34.984000+00:00), threadMember=ThreadMember(id=Snowflake(raw=1264496483957346346, timestamp=1721549854984, workerID=1, processID=1, increment=42), userID=Snowflake(raw=516049910622191626, timestamp=1543106286436, workerID=1, processID=0, increment=10), joinedAt=2024-07-21T08:17:49.067000+00:00, flags=3, member=null, muted=true, muteConfig=ThreadMemberMuteConfig(endsAt=2024-12-19T06:50:03.304000+00:00, selectedTimeWindow=10800)), flags=[], totalMessagesSent=35699, emojiIcon=null, themeColor=null, memberIDsPreview=[Snowflake(raw=258706134850863106, timestamp=1481750749076, workerID=0, processID=0, increment=2), Snowflake(raw=195942662241648640, timestamp=1466786771117, workerID=1, processID=0, increment=0), Snowflake(raw=364514619232092170, timestamp=1506977457579, workerID=2, processID=0, increment=10), Snowflake(raw=516049910622191626, timestamp=1543106286436, workerID=1, processID=0, increment=10), Snowflake(raw=294190728274509825, timestamp=1490210935420, workerID=2, processID=0, increment=1)])

okay heres the full list

[timid quartz]

mm it's transport agnostic

how could you account for that in ada

there's no Read or Write trait

[spare quartz]

wdym

[timid quartz]

Like the spec says it can occur over sockets, http, etc

[spare quartz]

... 'Read and 'Write

[timid quartz]

In rust I could have a trait that would allow anybody to slap in whatever they want

Think of a trait like an interface

[pallid loom]

SELFBOT!?!?!?!!?!?!?!

MODS BAN HIM

[spare quartz]

yes but

for A'Read use Read_A;

it's that easy

'Read/'W... don't care what the interface is as that's defined by the stream operations

the aspects are just a convenient wrapper over the streams interface

additionally 'Input/'Output are wrappers over that to include type semantics like bounds (also redefinable)

the HTTP server uses both a stream in memory AND a stream in a socket

same ops

[timid quartz]

confusion

[spare quartz]

it's not that hard to understand

you have a stream that inherits from Root_Stream_Type'Class and defines the requisite read/write operations as the developer sees fit

'Read goes through the stream's functions through dispatching calls

it all gets sorted somehow

[timid quartz]

mm so you’re saying to just accept Root_Stream_Type'Class

[spare quartz]

wdym accept

[timid quartz]

idk I’m stupid when it comes to Ada

[spare quartz]

it should be noted the 'Class part isn't particularly special

Root_Stream_Type is just an abstract tagged limited record (or, in other words, an abstract record that may not be copied)

'Class just lets us use an inheritor instead of requiring RST for the sake of dispatching

ughh im so tired

im gonna lay down again

[timid quartz]

I mean basically

so like

I want some kind of Json_Rpc_Client right

[spare quartz]

mhm

[timid quartz]

and the communication can occur over let's say http or a socket

I'm just trying to think of how to generalize that

[spare quartz]

well if it's over a socket

you just use the socket given to you by GNAT.Sockets

if its over http, you inherit RST in your http package somewhere and make a function that creates them

[timid quartz]

rst?

[spare quartz]

root_stream_type

[timid quartz]

mm

[spare quartz]

you're allowed to put anything within your new record but since it must be limited you may never copy the stream

[timid quartz]

maybe I make it just sockets for now

and figure out how to make it extensible later

[spare quartz]

https://github.com/Bread-Experts-Group/octet_memory_stream/

heres the simplest stream possible if you need help there

[timid quartz]

hmm yknow I should base this more off of the lsp spec

cause the lsp spec includes headers as well

[timid quartz]

ugh the lsp spec is so big and complex

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz askdhflakjsdhfuilahsdfjkasdnfljhasdfkjasdf looking at this spec makes me wanna dieee

[timid quartz]

tired

[full berry]

5 line follower sensors my beloved

[full berry]

go sleep

[spare quartz]

ughh

all the websocket libs for java suck

gonna make my own

[spare quartz]

neat

[spare quartz]

@timid quartz good morning AND

https://info-maimai.sega.jp/6392/ i have been informed of a collab between bayachao and sega

🏆

[timid quartz]

Nooo not on maimai

[timid quartz]

atp you slept for a while

[spare quartz]

did i

[timid quartz]

well you were off discord from about 3:50pm est to 5:20am est

that's like 14 hours

idk if you did anything after getting off/before getting on

[spare quartz]

mayb

i just have really good sleep

[timid quartz]

....14 hours is not normal

anything above like 9-10 is not normal

[spare quartz]

hmmm

hitman 2 has this seetting called "override memory safeguards"

iw onder if its okay to turn on

oh it crashed

HOLY SHIT GET OFF MY MENU BAR

[timid quartz]

hitman 2?

dam

[spare quartz]

i dont own the game

[timid quartz]

ahh pirating again are we

[spare quartz]

but someone in our conglomerate does

[timid quartz]

find a way to serve it over the internet

[spare quartz]

i could like

MAYBE make a program that

no no that'd be really stupid

a program that runs like wine, but instead of translating DLLs to syscalls it does it over HTTP

[timid quartz]

hmm

yeah idk

that would be odd

[spare quartz]

besides it'd involve so much os-level crap

i'd need to write like 3 separate adbs

[timid quartz]

why does ada's tooling outside of vsc suck major balls

[spare quartz]

fym

the gnat... line of cmd tools is awesome

if you mean ides then... it's cause theres only 1 set of people making it

[timid quartz]

I meant in terms of editors

yeah

[spare quartz]

and to get the pro version of gnatstudio requires like

a real company

okay

im 99% sure that memory safeguards thing is not a joke

everytime i tab into hitman 2 it causes my screen's pixels to get all staticy and split into red/green before the game actually visually loads again

game devs are super weird

[timid quartz]

lol

[spare quartz]

????????

excuse me

why is the MOV file a JPEG file

there

[timid quartz]

installing alire from the aur

[spare quartz]

whats an aur

[timid quartz]

arch user repo

[spare quartz]

also if you're on linux, again, i'd suggest to use the AppImage

[timid quartz]

ew appimage

[spare quartz]

not ew

very useful

only "installation" required is an alias

[timid quartz]

appimages are gross

[spare quartz]

no.

[timid quartz]

well

it's ok

they provide a raw binary

which is much better than an appimage

[spare quartz]

you're a raw binary.

[timid quartz]

appimages suck

[spare quartz]

how.

ughhh

hitman 2 keeps crashing

0xc0000005

(excep acs violation, segfault)

[timid quartz]

turn on the memory protections

smh

[spare quartz]

I DID

okay im setting it to 1990s graphics

障害が発生しているアプリケーション名: hitman2.exe、バージョン: 2.72.0.0、タイム スタンプ: 0x5f8d56d3
障害が発生したモジュール名: hitman2.exe、 バージョン: 2.72.0.0、タイム スタンプ: 0x5f8d56d3
例外コード: 0xc0000005

SIGH

ooooooookay

this guy got hacked

[flint belfry]

just reset at that point 😭

[spare quartz]

question bark

[timid quartz]

ugh als takes so long to compile

[spare quartz]

american language sign??

[timid quartz]

ada lsp

[spare quartz]

i think you got the l and s mixed up

[timid quartz]

and you complain about rust having long compile times

[spare quartz]

yeah cause you have long compile times on EVERYTHING

ada lsp is probably massive

[timid quartz]

I think rustc is just the better compiler

[spare quartz]

worse

[timid quartz]

❌

[spare quartz]

probably wasnt even contracted by the dod

lame

[timid quartz]

I've never had a rust project take this long to compile

[spare quartz]

okaywell have you ever compiled um

rust-lsp

[timid quartz]

rust-analyzer?

[spare quartz]

idk

[timid quartz]

sure I'll do that next

[spare quartz]

i think thatd be more libadalang

[timid quartz]

I'll even time it

[timid quartz]

the lsp server is vendored into the rust-analyzer repo

[spare quartz]

sounds monolithic

[timid quartz]

tell that to als

[spare quartz]

idk sounds quite distributed!

[timid quartz]

have you looked in the als repo

[spare quartz]

no..

[timid quartz]

ugh I wish I timed the als install

what compiling does to a mf

shoulda downloaded the damn binary

[spare quartz]

RMWEROWEROWERMWEMOROWEMROWE

[timid quartz]

FINALLY

1989.85 seconds

33 minutes

[proud creek]

Cat

[spare quartz]

hi

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz rust-analyzer

[spare quartz]

dude

im laughing so fucking hard

[spare quartz]

fake

[timid quartz]

real

[spare quartz]

fake

ada lsp is probasbly still bigger

[timid quartz]

IT TOOK

33 MINUTES

[spare quartz]

YEAH

PROBABLY HAD LSP FOR THE APOLLO LANDER IDK.

[timid quartz]

fine

go find me a massive rust project

to compile