💽Programming Chat v2

[timid quartz]

Indeed a very essential word

You probably also know あなた

[spare quartz]

I don’t know the symbols yet… I still can’t get the time to actually study them … what it’s in Romani… or whatever how that’s spelled

Oh so tired

[timid quartz]

anata

learn the kana smh

[spare quartz]

I’m trying :<

It’s not very easy when your brain partitions time on a single thing for 10 hours straight

[timid quartz]

kana takes no time at all

[timid quartz]

Ok so partition 10h for kana and you'll get it down

[spare quartz]

I WISH

[timid quartz]

that's totally how it works /j

[rustic vine]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-social-credit-score-credit-score-score-china-gif-23125701

as chinese these are hilarious

[tidal wave]

Ah yes my favorite channel, ATP and Aerasto DM's

No idea what y'all are working on, but good luck and have a nice day

[proud creek]

Worst channel ever

[full berry]

does anyone know of a good npm package to parse times like 1y, 10m, etc.

to either unix or even better seconds

[spare quartz]

Anyone is always free to chip in…

[spare quartz]

https://www.npmjs.com/package/parse-duration ?

[tidal wave]

I would like to, but im still kinda far away from what y'all talking about here, im just checking this channel from time to time

[spare quartz]

Myrreawww

[tidal wave]

Mrraoww

[rustic vine]

Far away? What's that mean

[spare quartz]

either our convs are too advanced for where he's at or they're just unrelated to what he's doing and doesn't want to intrude

either way we'll still help anyone (just no spoonfeeding, obv...)

[rustic vine]

Oh I didn't realize that was hours ago 😅

[spare quartz]

is all good

[rustic vine]

But yeah ofc, totally willing to help anyone understand what we're talking about

Just because we're talking about something you don't understand doesn't mean you can't interject and ask someone to explain

Ik id totally be willing to do that anytime

Or else how would people learn anything

[spare quartz]

there is one thing i'll admit though, i'm not very generalist on the things i know, i can only really help people with programming and not something domain specific "with" programming

but someone else here probably is...

[rustic vine]

Idk what that means

Whats the difference

[spare quartz]

say audio processing

[rustic vine]

Do you have an example

Ye

[spare quartz]

that requires programming, but it requires knowledge i don't have

[rustic vine]

Sure, because you need to know about signal processing

[spare quartz]

yeah

too bad theres like 4 other science channels taking away all the smart people ...

[rustic vine]

Shoulda just made 1

[spare quartz]

reminds me

i WILL need to actually learn a little bit about signals when dealing with playing WAV files

the file format they're in (RIFF) is super easy, i just dunno how to turn it into frequencies yet

[rustic vine]

New fun thing for me to deal with this afternoon

[spare quartz]

what's that for

rocket/engine?

[rustic vine]

No, my parents car lol

[spare quartz]

engine!!

hopefully nothings too screwed up with it

[rustic vine]

Oh ok look I saw rocket

[spare quartz]

the third thing i was gonna say was "gun" but

[rustic vine]

Hopefully just a spark plug replacement

[spare quartz]

you probably don't make guns..

[rustic vine]

No, in fact, I don't

Did you see the plane heli crash?

Saw it this morning

[spare quartz]

frriend told me about it, haven't seen wreckage

the circumstances are really weird though

[rustic vine]

Looks bad

[spare quartz]

apparently it was between a 60p pasenger plane and a blackhawk carrying 3 soldiers

i dunno how neither of them were informed of each other

[rustic vine]

Yeah a CRJ regional i think

[rustic vine]

They were apparently

Like 15 seconds prior to the crash ATC asked the heli if they had the AA flight in sight

And they replied yes

And then like 10 seconds before the heli was told to pass behind the CRJ

[spare quartz]

huh

was the collision head on between the two? or did the heli just strike a wing

[spare quartz]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Potomac_River_mid-air_collision

fnd article

[rustic vine]

I think head on? The heli flew in from the side

Idk if that works

[spare quartz]

oh jesus

[rustic vine]

Oh you found anyway

[spare quartz]

totally obliterated each other

[rustic vine]

Yeah. Looked like it

[spare quartz]

honestly odd two major aviation incidents happened very quickly with each other

def a coincidence, but.. the f35 and now this

[rustic vine]

And both involve the military, yea

[full berry]

hello there

i have a minor coding inconvenience

It doesnt detect in my localScript the .chatted event

player = Players.LocalPlayer
while true do
    wait(.1)
    player.Chatted:Connect(function()
    print("chatted")
    end)
end ```

All of this inside of a LocalScript in the StarterCharacterScripts folder

[spare quartz]

you are using the correct operator for indexing, and you aren't closing the .chatted function call properly

local x = Players.x
... do
  ...
  a.Event:Connect(function()

  end)
end

if you want to see what errors a script produces, open the Output tab in studio

[full berry]

I didnt change the code yet

[spare quartz]

scroll up in the output

[full berry]

I can see the same stuff from the devConsole so Imma close the output

It's the Physics stuff

[spare quartz]

are you sure your script is in the right place

also should note you're registering an event every .1 seconds

[full berry]

yes

[full berry]

ye cuz it desnt run :/

so I tried forcing it

removed the while

no change

[spare quartz]

which script is the code in, commandsreceiver?

[full berry]

the CommandReciever

yes

that's the localscript

[spare quartz]

it all looks correct...

[full berry]

pluh

[spare quartz]

click on the script while you're running the game

[full berry]

it's enabled

[spare quartz]

it should provide an indication on the tab about if its running or not

[spare quartz]

specifically the script inside your players character model (should be in playerscripts to pevent multiple registration)

[full berry]

its there...

[spare quartz]

open it and show the tab

[spare quartz]

huh, yeah, really odd... lemme try it in my own studio instance

[full berry]

alr

[spare quartz]

okay ive just tested it and

events not firing... lemme see

[full berry]

thats crazy

[spare quartz]

ah

Chatted only works on the server

[full berry]

._.

bruh

is there a way to make smth similar on a local?

[spare quartz]

let me see

(ignore LocalScript:3, thats the server script i just Reclassed)

TextChatService.SendingMessage is what you want

https://create.roblox.com/docs/reference/engine/classes/TextChatService#SendingMessage

[lyric mesa]

that doesnt make sense

the animate script uses it

[spare quartz]

you can test it yourself

[lyric mesa]

well how else would /emote work 😭

[spare quartz]

i set a breakpoint in animate and its not being triggered

TextChatService has the requisite command within it though

aha thats why

new** text chat disables Chatted from being fired

[full berry]

that's the issue?

[spare quartz]

yes but i advise you do not use the legacy text chat

it will be removed soon

[full berry]

Any way to let it fire it?

[spare quartz]

see

[full berry]

I'm not

._.

im using the new one

[spare quartz]

don't use chatted

[full berry]

alr

[full berry]

New issue :)

I have this command that has to be run inside of the same localScript that I just fixed (thanks btw)

It's supposed to change the value inside of a module

But apparently it didnt change it

why

[spare quartz]

how are you changing the value

[full berry]

actually

it did change it

but smth wrong

hollup

These are the parts that I'm interested in

When I call the /lck command via chat (yes, I'm using the sub message, cuz I'm a psycho) the Module DOES recieve the change, but the script that's supposed to read it, does not

It doesnt see it ._.

[spare quartz]

is the script thats supposed to read it on the server

[full berry]

It's in Workspace

[spare quartz]

is it a Script?

[full berry]

Yes

[spare quartz]

then its running on the server, and your command is being run on the client

[full berry]

freak

ing

hell

but its a module

[spare quartz]

so the client value is changing but the server isn't; you need to use a remote event or run the command on the server

[spare quartz]

so two copies of a module actually exist

[full berry]

ah

[spare quartz]

one on the server, and one on the client

[full berry]

thats new

alr

[spare quartz]

when you require it the one applicable to your side is used (the other isn't visible)

[spare quartz]

so yeah

[full berry]

explain real quick how I can use the remove event pls :)

[spare quartz]

read the docs

its just :FireServer on the client and .OnServerEvent on the server or something

i'd suggest usnig the latter where you run the command on the server if that's a viable option for you

[full berry]

I had first this tremendous code in a script

and it worked

but I had to rework it into a localscript

cuz of resetting issues

cuz I have this noClip command

that if I die it breaks

so I put the entire code into a localscript so I can control the death of the player

and maybe fix the issue

I'm not even entirely sure

:)

||I hate myself||

[rustic vine]

the correct solution is to turn FE off

yw 👍

[spare quartz]

okay 2015

[rustic vine]

I had a long discussion about FE here I think

I forgot what it was about

ye ok I did

Im not going crazy

also unrelated but

idk if any of yall remember that imgui (but not imgui) thing I was working on, heres what became of that

[rustic vine]

haven't done much work on it recently cause school started

but hoping to continue soon

[rustic vine]

yea idk about . being a file

[spare quartz]

curerntly trying to rig this rpgmaker game into being run in a browser

[proud creek]

imgui is cool

[spare quartz]

it's trying so hard

[rustic vine]

yea I absolutely love the style

so thats why I've borrowed it

[full berry]

I fixed my issue, used a remoteEvent

yay :P

[rustic vine]

welcome to the post fe world

[spare quartz]

you camel case things a lot ...

[rustic vine]

I used to love camelCase

until I found snake_case

[spare quartz]

Ada_Case on top

[rustic vine]

truly enlightening

naw bruh what is that

[spare quartz]

procedure Raise_Undefined_Exception; 💪

[rustic vine]

yea thats awful

👍

oh but the keywords are not

great

[spare quartz]

well

the keywords in ada are case insensitive

so PROCEDURE Raise_X; works

but the style tools don't like that usually

so

[full berry]

if I use :kick from my localscript will it work on other players?

[spare quartz]

no

[rustic vine]

I think they should just use C

[full berry]

or I need another remoteevent

[rustic vine]

dont

[spare quartz]

another remote event.. which i don't suggest using!

[rustic vine]

well actually do

[full berry]

why tho

[spare quartz]

run the commands on the server using the textchatservice functions

[rustic vine]

but only if you check it on the server

actually it don't even matter bruh exploiters are extinct

[spare quartz]

unneeded complexity

just run the textchatservice events on your server

[rustic vine]

wait till you hear about

[proud creek]

PascalCase my beloved

[full berry]

maybe

[spare quartz]

this is my honest to god reaction to this message

[spare quartz]

yes ada is a pascal family language 🙏 thank the lord

okay so

im able to get the main screen

BUt

the node js server im using crashes when it tries to load a map

hmmm

[rustic vine]

found a video
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/995406401130217502/1329274312678572074/20250116-0221-10.6038567.mp4?ex=679cdc6c&is=679b8aec&hm=0c5fc6e83c9e3793fa435de9978da3d4ac0df1911fa81147e076ec61f15170d4&

[rustic vine]

I think you're a little too excited for the complexity

[spare quartz]

💔

<-- [GET] /www/img/characters/$toumei.rpgmvp
<-- [GET] /www/img/characters/Vehicle.rpgmvp
* Shutting down server

C:\Users\Adenosine3Phosphate\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\static-server\server.js:140
    var uri = req.path = decodeURIComponent(url.parse(req.url).pathname);
                         ^

URIError: URI malformed

hmm

does it not like the dollar sign??

ah what the heck

ill just write my own server

god i love it when our language is so stable it hasnt changed for 2 decades

[full berry]

I have found once more another problem...

I have this NoClip command

It makes u noclip

But for some reason

if I enable it via command

and then disable it via command

I cant enable it anymore

but if I enable it via command

and disable it by dying

I can enable it again

._.

I used a couroutine so that I can stop it with .close() and restart it with .resume

[full berry]

just kidding i found the way, had to use .yield instead of .close

[spare quartz]

I GOT IT WORKING

AAHHAHAHAH

[timid quartz]

been on linux on my macbook for longer than I have been in the past

it's not too bad

[spare quartz]

aera

can you test something

[timid quartz]

what

[spare quartz]

hold on im using another terst subejct rn

but basically

you're just gonna test おきつね物語 for 5 secconds

to see if it loads for you

[timid quartz]

[spare quartz]

after this

im SO gonna try loading omori onto it

[timid quartz]

onto what

your os?

[timid quartz]

what is it

[spare quartz]

its an incredibly basic http server which facilitates loading RPGMaker games

[timid quartz]

dies

[spare quartz]

maybe

the sound of progress my frriend

@timid quartz http://107.132.83.172:7777/www/index.html

okay try this

[timid quartz]

hold

Will when able

[spare quartz]

ehehehehehheheh

[timid quartz]

ok

[spare quartz]

oh crap

holddddddddddd

[timid quartz]

[spare quartz]

AAAAAA

NOT YET

[timid quartz]

[spare quartz]

ughguhgug i broke it 😭

OK

lemme just run this through

@timid quartz http://107.132.83.172:7777/www/index.html

you can testi t now sory

tell me EVERYTHING you see

[timid quartz]

ok

ughhh I can't get fcitx5 (ime) to work on discord if discord is running natively in waylanddd

[spare quartz]

the down time was me trying to make it multitheraded but

[timid quartz]

is it broken

[spare quartz]

no

[timid quartz]

oh it's alive

[spare quartz]

why

do note it has to load the ENTIRE game through http requests, each file is its own request

[timid quartz]

it's just on the uh

OH lmao it died

[spare quartz]

show

[timid quartz]

sigsegv

[spare quartz]

fym sigsev

[timid quartz]

ur shit segfaulted

lmfao

[spare quartz]

LOL THAT ISNT A ME ISSUE 😭

ive tested this on 3 other's computers now, they all did fine

i guess your chrome is just extra memory leaky today

[timid quartz]

ok I see monster eating dumpling

[spare quartz]

show

[timid quartz]

are you trying to dynamically load libraries @spare quartz ?

[spare quartz]

shouldn't be

[spare quartz]

anything the page is doing is what rpgmaker does

[spare quartz]

mrow

im keeping track of your loading progress by your ip log

[timid quartz]

mk

oh it's there

[spare quartz]

music too?

[timid quartz]

sound is off

[spare quartz]

click on the canvas

[timid quartz]

im in a meeting oh wow my laaptop is cchugging

[spare quartz]

ohhh

[spare quartz]

😭

if anything i saw an IMPROVEMENT running it in the browser over rpgmakers node runtime

went from 8ms per frame to 0.5

[timid quartz]

it's stuck

lol it segfaulted again

[spare quartz]

what do you see?

😭

[timid quartz]

I got to like the first title screen

[spare quartz]

i dont think your laptop has enouggh ram

[timid quartz]

IT HAS 16GB

[spare quartz]

WELL

whatever your browser is doing

is .. wrong

[timid quartz]

it's literally chromium

ungoogled-chromium but

[spare quartz]

my test samples included 1 person on edge/linux, 1 person on firefox/linux, 1 person on chrome/windows

[timid quartz]

edge/linux is wild

[spare quartz]

and also me who's on firefox/windows

[timid quartz]

who uses ms edge on linux

[spare quartz]

i dunno 😭

[timid quartz]

lmfao yeah it keeps crashing

fix yo shit

[spare quartz]

do you have another computer you can test it on later 😭

[timid quartz]

here lemme reboot into macos and use arc and see

[spare quartz]

i dont think your laptop is good enough .

also

unforuntately im leaking about 400 kb of memory per full load

:<

who tf

@timid quartz are you the ip address x.x.70.211?

[timid quartz]

idfk

idk what my public ip is

I did just reconnect so

[spare quartz]

i just got 3 unique ips out of nowhere so

[timid quartz]

let's see if macos can run it any better

[spare quartz]

oh cmon another one??

who is 67.248??

[snow oak]

ME

Does it end with 154

[timid quartz]

yeah that's me

[spare quartz]

are you 67.248.238.154:64809

[timid quartz]

ok macos has yet to crash @spare quartz

[spare quartz]

thats good

[snow oak]

Yep

That’s me

[spare quartz]

be careful the server is only singlethreaded

so multiple connections will strain out the total bandwidth

aeras session looks almost loaded

too bad i cant get a rat installed.. .

[timid quartz]

wdym almost loaded

im in the game

stoopid

[spare quartz]

WHAT

screenshot?

[spare quartz]

h😭

[timid quartz]

macos/arc(chromium) for your reference

[spare quartz]

i got no idedae how to erad htis

[timid quartz]

you made it smh

[spare quartz]

no

[timid quartz]

ugh I wanna go back to linux

[spare quartz]

bayachao made this game

i just ported it to the browser

(ILLEGALLY MIND YOU)

(DONT SHARE THIS)

[timid quartz]

I wanna go back to linuxxx macos is bleh

[spare quartz]

macos is linux though

[timid quartz]

no

it's very loosely bsd

[snow oak]

Are you hackintoshing or using an Apple product

[timid quartz]

using an apple product

[snow oak]

Cool

[spare quartz]

brother from a different mother

at least its true unix

[timid quartz]

ok i gtg

tab closed

[spare quartz]

alr

thx for testing :3

[snow oak]

OpenCore is a terrible experience

I wouldn’t even try it again

[timid quartz]

make it work on linux next time @spare quartz

[spare quartz]

tiano opencore??

aer you using qemu??

[spare quartz]

literally 50% of my test samples are linux and they worked fine

[snow oak]

https://olarila.com/topic/25111-hackintosh-efi-folders-with-opencore-mod/

[spare quartz]

your chrome has a skill issue

[snow oak]

No embed???

Oh nvm

[snow oak]

I have an alder lake processor with an NVIDIA gpu so the output looked horrible

[spare quartz]

bright did the game ALSO work with you

[snow oak]

I immediately closed out but I’ll check again

I’m on mobile so idk

Okensec

One sec

[spare quartz]

well

i did make sgii run it on mobile..

[timid quartz]

There’s a chance it’s because I’m on NixOS but it shouldn’t be considering it’s running inside the browser

[spare quartz]

i dont think webgl likes it there though

[snow oak]

There is an object that is doing an animation

[spare quartz]

what does the object look like

[snow oak]

It’s eating something

Uhhh

[timid quartz]

It could also be the fact that chromium is running natively in Wayland rather than under Xwayland

[snow oak]

Furry animal

Feline

[spare quartz]

oh aera you're on his screen

[snow oak]

Almost

[timid quartz]

No u

[spare quartz]

(it's a fox not a cat)

[timid quartz]

Actually

It’s a きつね

[spare quartz]

okay nerd

that still just means fox at the end of the day

[timid quartz]

Also I gotta say this game has the most mid-ass title

[spare quartz]

loltru

[timid quartz]

Literally just “Kitsune Story”

[spare quartz]

still need to mod omor a bit to get everything working

shouldn't be that bad though since

it's coded in js...

@snow oak is everything working

i see no activity from your ip

[snow oak]

I’m gonna test it on my pc

[spare quartz]

yknow

im surprised nobody has done anything nasty with my ip yet..

since i give it out like candy

[snow oak]

testing on my pc

same with mine vro

🤷

[spare quartz]

theres another

-0-

[spare quartz]

ignore

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz I’m testing on Linux again

[spare quartz]

again you have to load the majority of the files -- a lot

[timid quartz]

So we’ll see

[spare quartz]

so YOU were the mistery ip

where do you live btw city/state

[timid quartz]

If it crashes I’ll try loading it just in xwayland

[timid quartz]

I mean I’ve literally given you my IP

[spare quartz]

ughhh fine

just asking cause yours is like

[timid quartz]

don’t post it though stupid

[spare quartz]

really near my codevs

okay you're nowhere near them

thank god

[timid quartz]

I SAID

DONT POST IT

[spare quartz]

THATS

[timid quartz]

STUPID

[spare quartz]

AN ENTIRE STATE

??

[timid quartz]

DONT

[spare quartz]

😭

it jusut seems so broad okay

[timid quartz]

It’s taking quite a while to load

[spare quartz]

yeah well

you two are fighting for the same connection

[timid quartz]

Kick him off

[spare quartz]

i cant do that

[timid quartz]

Or make it multithreaded

[spare quartz]

i especailly cant do that quickly enough

[snow oak]

i'm not on the site anymore

so

[spare quartz]

oh okay

[timid quartz]

Just spawn a new thread for each connection

[spare quartz]

not how that works

[timid quartz]

I DID switch WiFi networks and this one is probably slower

[proud creek]

task.spawn

[spare quartz]

well one thing im noticing is

[proud creek]

Ez

[spare quartz]

your DNS resolver on this computer

is a lot more wacky

its targetting the entire range from 4000 to 60000

[timid quartz]

lol sigsegv

[spare quartz]

how 😭

are you using chrome again

[timid quartz]

Yes

[spare quartz]

try firefox

you migth have better luck

which is surprising since

the rpgmaker engine was made to run on node, which is v8...

[timid quartz]

urgh fine

[timid quartz]

It honestly might be some issue stemming from me being on NixOS

[spare quartz]

i dunno why that would be though

its not a linux issue... i think

(the other two were using arch...)

[timid quartz]

You see NixOS is a strange distro

[proud creek]

Everything is clearly a Linux issue

[spare quartz]

like you

give me your ip for testing tz

you know you want to

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz so nixos's whole deal is being built around the nix package manager which has a wildly different philosophy regarding dependencies

the entire point is reproducability

[spare quartz]

you've told me about nix os a dozen times yeah

but ideally that should just better its chances

[timid quartz]

so each nix package pulls in their dependencies by version

well because it does the things it does, programs have to be tailored to work on nixos

nixos doesn't support dynamic library loading for one, every dynamic library has to have its path resolved to somewhere in the nix store

[spare quartz]

jeez you're still loading stuff in..

wait

no you're not

bright is back

[timid quartz]

yeah I just loaded

not segfaulted (yet)

firefox seems to be ok idk what's up

it could also be the patches for ungoogled-chromium fucked something up

[spare quartz]

whats interesting is you're still loading stuff in

i'd think at this point it'd all be in memory

[timid quartz]

sound works too

[spare quartz]

ultimate test

saving and loading

it worked for me but it uses local storage

p.s.

tell me when to terminate the server

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz lol I did save and now it's stuck on loading when I walked into the next area

nvm

[spare quartz]

soz

im doing MT testing on 7778

[timid quartz]

ok done

ugh do I switch to ff

or stay on chromium

[spare quartz]

what do you want

[timid quartz]

I'm also having to run discord in the browser because otherwise I can't use fcitx5 😭

日本語でタイプしたい

eugh what is that highlighting

あいうえお

ok the weird highlighting isn't here

[spare quartz]

ナード

[timid quartz]

ok time to switch from ungoogled-chromium to librewolf ig

[spare quartz]

damn

my LSP is failing hard

[timid quartz]

yeah

ada_language_server is ass

[spare quartz]

it works fine for like

an hour

then it requires a restart

anyways ive made the loading siginificantly faster, but idk if the game likes that

[timid quartz]

you should make a better lsp

[spare quartz]

waiitttt

ohhh i need a protected object dont i

or else threads will share a file and break the AFCB

[spare quartz]

you're done testing btw right

[timid quartz]

uh yeah

yeah

linux ❤️

[spare quartz]

linux 🤢

[timid quartz]

windows 👎

[spare quartz]

got my final test subject now

[timid quartz]

windows is like

[spare quartz]

hmm

[timid quartz]

ok for gaming cause all games support it

but for development work

it's ass

[spare quartz]

godddd

i figured out why there were crashes sometimes

some browsers are sending an SSL/TLS request

and since thats.. yknow.. not recognized

it dies

[timid quartz]

is that the sigsegv

[spare quartz]

no

[spare quartz]

my ada code can't segfault anywhere

[timid quartz]

I still blame you for the sigsegv

[spare quartz]

ITS YOUR BROWSER

how tf would i even cause that 😭

maybe

your browser just doesnt like this being

?

[timid quartz]

Idk maybe

In all honesty it’s either the ungoogled-chromium patches or just being on NixOS

I’m inclined to believe it’s a NixOS issue but it also ran fine on FF

[spare quartz]

mmm

need to figure out how to stop this from happening

probably just a PO that only lets one handle exist at a time

[timid quartz]

You should figure out how to make a better LSP

[spare quartz]

i cant . !!!

do you know how many thigns i have to work on

[timid quartz]

have to or want to

:3

[spare quartz]

all

i dont make a difference there

[timid quartz]

Ok well you seem fine ignoring things you actually have to do (schoolwork)

[spare quartz]

yeah BUT

[timid quartz]

So just….ignore the other stuff too

[spare quartz]

thats cause i cant controol that ..

[timid quartz]

wdym

What can’t you control

[spare quartz]

ADHD IDOT

[timid quartz]

take adderall

[spare quartz]

no

i hate drugs

[timid quartz]

uh ok drink coffee then

[spare quartz]

NO

soda

[timid quartz]

Tea

[spare quartz]

SODA

[timid quartz]

Soda is bad for you

[timid quartz]

Ur stupid sounds can’t affect me if my phone won’t play them

[spare quartz]

smh

[timid quartz]

Dw I don’t understand 98% of Japanese either

[spare quartz]

😭

[timid quartz]

You think I can actually speak Japanese?

[spare quartz]

maybe..

you're really the only "reliable" outlet for it

[timid quartz]

Bro when I was there over the summer on a study abroad program, we visited a school

[flint belfry]

not like we can do anything

[timid quartz]

And the kids spoke better Japanese than any of us

We couldn’t understand half of what they were saying

[spare quartz]

its all they've ever known!!!

• some english

[flint belfry]

besides know where your city is but you have your address posted

[spare quartz]

KADe

DO YOU WANNA BE A TERST SUBJECT

??!

[flint belfry]

no not really

[spare quartz]

:<

what ifi give you plaen dragon art in reutrn

[flint belfry]

is it going to be your weird creepy ass art or actual art

[spare quartz]

fym creepy ass art

all art is art

[flint belfry]

you know the weird ass aeromorphs

i hate those

[spare quartz]

i knoww hat you like idiot

yes "actual art"

[flint belfry]

what is the experiment

im kind of busy rn

[spare quartz]

you gotta run a furry game in your browser

really 99% of it is waiting

[flint belfry]

bye

[spare quartz]

and pressing enter

ITS

oh my goddd

its not that hard

[flint belfry]

the moment you said furry game i lost all intrest

[spare quartz]

okay look

when i say 99% waitnig

i mean all you have to do is keep it in a tab and tell me if anything changes for a good 5 minutes (you can do stuff in the meantime)

and when the screen is ready you press enter

thats all

[flint belfry]

ok ill do it in a bit then since im in public

also im running it in a vm fuck you

[spare quartz]

yes ma'am

w

no

you dont need a vm :soB:

its a browser tab

[flint belfry]

i do not trust you

[spare quartz]

I DONT MAKE VIRUSES??

[flint belfry]

i dont trust anything made by you

[spare quartz]

but why :<

just cause we've made a.exe into a mod once doesn't mean we're untrustworthy

[flint belfry]

its not about a.exe its because you just give off malicious vibes 😭

this is not related to you leaking my ip in the past

[spare quartz]

HOW

what do i do thats malicious..

[flint belfry]

idk thats why i just said it

you give off malicious vibes

idk why

[spare quartz]

im a fed though!!!

that means you can trust me

🥺

[flint belfry]

no your not

you work in the airforce navy whatever thing

u aint no police officer

[spare quartz]

nuh uh

what

[flint belfry]

Dissipate

[spare quartz]

police aren't feds 😭

[flint belfry]

whart

thats what people usually also refe

wh

[spare quartz]

lol no they refer to people like the FBI or CIA

domestic and state police def aren't feds

anyways

thell me when you're reaady

[flint belfry]

ok give me like half an hour

and if i dont forget

[spare quartz]

giving you 30 hours

[flint belfry]

and what happens if i use those 30 hours

[spare quartz]

i will eat the dirt beneath your house

[flint belfry]

the gas people are already doing that

and might break my fiber optic cable

[spare quartz]

the what

[flint belfry]

like they did with my neighbor

[flint belfry]

gas workers that are redoing shit

[spare quartz]

i hope they make a spark!!

[flint belfry]

and also supposdely will replace electric cables in my neighborhood since theyre decaying and from the 60s

[flint belfry]

they will

probably

i guess

[proud creek]

Wdym

[spare quartz]

can you go to a website for a ibt

[proud creek]

Later I’m not home rn

[spare quartz]

ok :3

[proud creek]

Also uhh you won’t get my home ip

Cause I’m gonna be using my hotspot

[spare quartz]

i dont mind

i can track your loading progress based off the port number usage and what 404s you get

[proud creek]

Lol

[spare quartz]

nya

[timid quartz]

I wonder how complicated an lsp server would be

probably quite

since you gotta do semantic analysis

[spare quartz]

i made the game loads tons faster now

the program is still quite leaky

[timid quartz]

if only you used rust...

[spare quartz]

but it was able to load the entire game + send the entire 500 MB zip to someone and only leaked about 3.2 MB of ram

[timid quartz]

rust would (probably) not leak :3

[spare quartz]

the leakly part is this code right here

(ignore the giant line thats for mtring the download progress)

[timid quartz]

turn the server on

[spare quartz]

should note im also not throwing away threads

but they shouldn't exist after a bit

[timid quartz]

throw away threads

[spare quartz]

its on

what did you want

[timid quartz]

to observe

[spare quartz]

oh wait

lemme set it to 7777

[timid quartz]

7777?

[spare quartz]

port number

[timid quartz]

still pretty slow...ngl...

ok just lmk when ready

[spare quartz]

cause im working on it

[spare quartz]

rdy

i can't garentee it'll load 100% of the time

since theres still the problem of file sharing

but it shuold work relatively okay

[timid quartz]

faster

nice

[spare quartz]

did it load?

[timid quartz]

ok closed

yeah it did

[spare quartz]

a lot faster right

[timid quartz]

a bit yea

I may have had some parts cached idk

[spare quartz]

there isn't any caching

[timid quartz]

oh

gg

fuckkkk atp what do I do.........bored........................

[spare quartz]

make an lsp for ME in ada

[timid quartz]

eughh

have to statically analyze ada code

[spare quartz]

get used to SPARK 🗣️

[timid quartz]

first gotta get a json-rpc lib down

and then....the lsp

[spare quartz]

Section A.14 of the Ada Reference Manual allows implementations to provide a wide variety of behavior if an attempt is made to access the same external file with two or more internal files.

To provide a full range of functionality, while at the same time minimizing the problems of portability caused by this implementation dependence, GNAT handles file sharing as follows:

In the absence of a ‘shared=xxx’ form parameter, an attempt to open two or more files with the same full name is considered an error and is not supported. The exception Use_Error will be raised. Note that a file that is not explicitly closed by the program remains open until the program terminates.
If the form parameter ‘shared=no’ appears in the form string, the file can be opened or created with its own separate stream identifier, regardless of whether other files sharing the same external file are opened. The exact effect depends on how the C stream routines handle multiple accesses to the same external files using separate streams.
If the form parameter ‘shared=yes’ appears in the form string for each of two or more files opened using the same full name, the same stream is shared between these files, and the semantics are as described in Ada Reference Manual, Section A.14.

sorry for the spam just found this interesting

:o

yeah that fixed it

[timid quartz]

eughh alire wants my full name

maybe I don't publish to the alire index....

[spare quartz]

you don't need your full name

can be an alias

it's just a professional thing

[timid quartz]

what license should I use

[spare quartz]

whatever you feel is best

the standard for ada projects is apache 2.0 with llvm exception

but again

whatever you feel is best

[timid quartz]

idk I don't think any are particularly better

I don't think like gpl or agpl are necessary

[spare quartz]

ehhhmmm

how do i wanna implement password auth

i cant exactly let this bayachao game be public cause yknow

illegal

[timid quartz]

http basic

or distribute keys and log ips

[spare quartz]

but who would want a collection of coolmathgames but rpgmaker titles

[timid quartz]

even tho alire's default is mit OR apache 2.0 w/ llvm exceptions?

[spare quartz]

yeah thats what i mean by standard

[timid quartz]

ic

[spare quartz]

it'll also ask you for a website later in init

ideally you don't want to set it to a site that doesn't exist/will exist in the future

since the manual reviewer (mosteo) isn't fond with that

but you can also leave it empty (fine)

[timid quartz]

yeah I left it empty :3

[spare quartz]

annnnddd not shown in the alire.toml is the long-description field

which is useful for ... a long description on the site

[timid quartz]

h

eh

should I -gnat2022

[spare quartz]

fml

[spare quartz]

my suggestion is you dev in Ada_2012

and when the compiler asks for a 2022 feature

you put down a pragma Ada_2022 in the file

[timid quartz]

how does one code in ada_2012

is that just the default

[spare quartz]

yeah

[timid quartz]

or -gnat2012

ok

[spare quartz]

you may also develop in 83/93/05

but

thats only if you really want compat

[timid quartz]

eh

nah

do I have to commit config/

[spare quartz]

the alire provided .gitignore should be enough

[timid quartz]

oh well it's in the default .gitingore

ok

rrrr now........must............figure out.........how to organize library....

[spare quartz]

just obvious note out there

your packages wil be laid out on the top level of the RTS, alire does not put a container over it all

[timid quartz]

ame

[spare quartz]

package Your.Mom

will be used like

with Your.Mom

(so you should probably just do Your_Mom)

(don't take that literally pls 🙏)

[timid quartz]

But what about

package Your_Mom.Fat

[spare quartz]

die

[timid quartz]

package Your_Mom_Fat

is more appropriate?

[spare quartz]

ehhh no

Your_Mom would be descriptive enough to point to your package

if Fat provides a distinct subset of Your_Mom then having it as a division is good

[timid quartz]

ic

hmm now should I use the json library on alire or make my own parser

[snow oak]

alright

[spare quartz]

note the difference in srtucture though
Your_Mom.Fat
your_mom.ads << mandatory even if empty
your_mom-fat.ads
v.
Your_Mom_Fat
your_mom_fat.ads
it is not possible to have a child package defined within a parent package with no specification

[snow oak]

who wants to be my test subject

someone go to 67.248.238.154:7777

and tell me if it gives you a site

[spare quartz]

copycat 🙏

[snow oak]

nuh uh

[snow oak]

oh cool

it worked

[spare quartz]

i just used 7777 cause it was my factorio port and i didnt know what other port to use 😭

lemme open router

[snow oak]

i used 7777 cuz its the only one i had open atm

[spare quartz]

ehehehehe

yeah i have a lot

[timid quartz]

maybe we do the easy way...

and implement this in java using lsp4j

nah

[spare quartz]

yeah thats the easier way BUT

[timid quartz]

but

[spare quartz]

if you make an alire package you could put down on your resume

[timid quartz]

.....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaybe

.mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaybenot

[spare quartz]

"i competed personally against a multinational corporation for an lsp library"

(since AdaCore is the only supplier)

[timid quartz]

but also adacore has ada_language_server

sooo

[spare quartz]

thats the competition!!!

[timid quartz]

maybe the play is contributing to that

[spare quartz]

theres also ASIS but

afaik thats been obsoleted

ASIS is also more technically complex and i dont reccomend looking at it

[timid quartz]

asis

[spare quartz]

https://www.adacore.com/asis

(OF COURSE IT COSTS 221 SWISS FRANC TOO)

(I HATE ISO)

[timid quartz]

I wonder why ALS is even so bad

[spare quartz]

the github says why

it's just not complete

[timid quartz]

if adacore can't make it good how tf could i

[spare quartz]

being good 😎

[timid quartz]

i aint though

im mid-tier at best

[spare quartz]

okay well

you're a rust programmer

good enough

[timid quartz]

nah

like i can program but like

i dont think im particularly good nor am i one of those people that can maintain their own shit

[spare quartz]

idk that sounds a lot like what a dunning kruger survivor would say

[timid quartz]

nah dawg I just have no motivation for shit

we are opposites

you have too much energy I lack energy

[spare quartz]

: <

[timid quartz]

aint got no coding job either

no clue wtf ima do after colleg

[spare quartz]

me neither!!!

[timid quartz]

ok if libadalang aint good enough then wtf

[timid quartz]

you're enlisting

[spare quartz]

well yeah but like

[timid quartz]

basically sounds like static analysis of ada is impossible

except via the compiler

[spare quartz]

beforehand too... i want some money going in

[spare quartz]

well

there is the SPARK 2014 tooling

but idk how much of it is applicable

[timid quartz]

spark is a subset

so

it'd probably have holes

[spare quartz]

adas rm is 1000 pages long so no wonder its not* complete

[timid quartz]

could defer to libadalang but

ehhhh idfk

what would this lsp even do that als wouldn't

what's the point

[spare quartz]

you're asking a lot about practicality...

[timid quartz]

see this is the magic, I'm able to talk myself out of almost anything

:3

[spare quartz]

this is why you NEED to have trust issues about programming

if everything was impractical why not just use nodejs with their billion libraries

[timid quartz]

idk I just don't see the point

ig I only bugged you because you're crazy enough to do it

[spare quartz]

emmm whatr was i doing again,

[timid quartz]

ngl I'm questioning if CS was the right degree

cause it just feels like I enjoy it less

[spare quartz]

what other careers would you be interested in

i've always just thought for a "real" job i'd do like

light science

[timid quartz]

tbh idfk either

Nuclear stuff is cool but the physics and math are icky

maybe it's not that I'm not interested in code but for some reason I can never find enough energy to see anything through so I just don't make anything

[spare quartz]

i kinda just feel basic in my programming language ability

i don't know all the cool stuff cs majors do or programming language scientists or whatever, i kinda just decode protocols and ... thats all

[timid quartz]

ok that's literally false you're making an OS

[snow oak]

looks a lot better now

[timid quartz]

Tbh it's funny

You feel basic but do cool stuff
I have the knowledge but don't do anything

[spare quartz]

OK yeah but thats not really sciency or cool

i just follow instructions