#💽Programming Chat v2
proud creek
spare quartz
i think they still count to grade though
proud creek
ur failing
spare quartz
https://tenor.com/view/super-f-fail-failure-me-when-the-noob-gif-25904886
im gonna be so honest im happy with a 70%
lavish dove
your gpa will not be happy with a 70
spare quartz
im not getting a job after school 💀
lavish dove
job market L
spare quartz
military w
lavish dove
holy shit military w
spare quartz
oh okay maybe i should read the article on this one
i only know these terms cause of learning ada 😭
lavish dove
network operating system but I dont think thats how y ou use the word
time sharing would be single core and real time
lavish dove
yeah thats what I thought
like I see the mistakes from before so I think "bruh they mistook network boot 💀 "
spare quartz
this one looks like its actually well substantiated so im not gonna assume that rn
ill just skip until i get a definition
spare quartz
time sharing would be single core and real time
it lumps multitasking in there so i think thats just most oses
lavish dove
huh
spare quartz
lavish dove
lmao
lavish dove
oh thats a weird term
theres a central unix server for all us airlines and if you login to it with ssh you can get flight info
and even pay for flights
spare quartz
theres a central unix server for all us airlines and if you login to it with ssh...
oh yeah ive heard about that
very robust system
lavish dove
yea
spare quartz
aggh they didnt mention ada for RTOS :<
lavish dove
oof
spare quartz
even the ssh in windows can x forward
oh neat
lavish dove
I remember I bought a vps and ssh'd into it from my school computer
I couldnt get x to work because im a dumbass but I've seen videos of it working so
for some reason xorg wouldnt start automatically 💀
so I had to start it every time
spare quartz
i prefer xrdp honestly
lavish dove
I tried to setup a rdp server too but it would also crash 😭
spare quartz
did you get a log of why??
lavish dove
no the thing didnt make any logs
lavish dove
it was krdp server
with kde
I deleted ite ntirely cuz I was afraid it was running even though I disabled it, thats how broken it was
and I cant install a rdp client on the school computers, wont even run anything thats signed
not even windows S either, they just set it up to only allow programs that were on a whitelist
ssh was signed with microsofts key so i dont tihnk they couldve banned it without also banning edge lmao
and the builtin rdp one was banned
spare quartz
uh oh
lavish dove
oh dear god
proud creek
huh
spare quartz
it wants me to write down abstractions over application/system/hardware
which is better than questions i have no idea if im getting right or wrong
lavish dove
what a weird definition of hardware
spare quartz
its not wrong with the first half
but an http request doesnt really exist that low...
spare quartz
RAW sockets (sockets not really a thing on hardware but... just raw r/w of the interface) let you send whatever you want so IP isn't really "there" as much as it is on the software side
lavish dove
just port
sending through port is kinda slow though I wonder if it uses dma
oh they use ports
wait some of them use dma
and some of them use ports
and some of them use EEROM idk what that is
oh ERROM is readonly huh
proud creek
hardware does a beep boop
spare quartz
@proud creek
import java.util.LinkedList;
import java.util.ArrayDeque;
import java.util.Arrays;
import java.util.Queue;
public class Main {
static <T extends Queue<Integer>> T rearrangeWithAuxStack(T tzsmells) {
System.out.println(tzsmells);
ArrayDeque<Integer> rearranged = new ArrayDeque<>();
int d = 0;
for (int i = 0; i < 2; i++) {
for (Integer entry : tzsmells) {
if (entry % 2 == i) rearranged.addFirst(entry);
}
}
while (rearranged.size() > 0) {
tzsmells.remove();
tzsmells.add(rearranged.removeLast());
}
return tzsmells;
}
public static void main(String[] unused) {
System.out.println(rearrangeWithAuxStack(new LinkedList<Integer>(Arrays.asList(3, 5, 4, 17, 6, 83, 1, 84, 16, 37))));
}
}
here
now with squimble support
spare quartz
A more complete and consistent set of LIFO stack operations is provided by the Deque interface and its implementations, which should be used in preference to this class.
java docs literally say use ArrayDeque over Stack
proud creek
ok but my homework is not about which one is better
spare quartz
oh my godddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
do ALL cs teachers suck
spare quartz
who
lavish dove
do ALL cs teachers suck
yeah I only hear bad things about cs teachers 😭
bro even my cs teacher doesnt know shit
well he knows a tiny bit but not really anything about how things actually work
I swear no wonder people hate C now, they learned the wrong way in college
anyways why is it fucking different every time I boot my os
sometimes the drive will return the actual sectors, sometimes it will be zero
oh its sending an error when it doesnt work
nice
spare quartz
i think its from university of washingtonm
import java.util.LinkedList;
import java.util.Arrays;
import java.util.Stack;
import java.util.Queue;
public class Main {
static <T extends Queue<Integer>> T rearrangeWithAuxStack(T tzsmells) {
System.out.println(tzsmells);
Stack<Integer> rearranged = new Stack<>();
for (int i = 0; i < 2; i++) {
for (Integer entry : tzsmells) {
if (entry % 2 == i) rearranged.push(entry);
}
}
while (!rearranged.empty()) {
tzsmells.remove();
tzsmells.add(rearranged.pop());
}
while (tzsmells.peek() != null) rearranged.push(tzsmells.remove());
while (!rearranged.empty()) tzsmells.add(rearranged.pop());
return tzsmells;
}
public static void main(String[] unused) {
System.out.println(rearrangeWithAuxStack(new LinkedList<Integer>(Arrays.asList(3, 5, 4, 17, 6, 83, 1, 84, 16, 37))));
}
}
there
ugly
lavish dove
idk java so it looks ugly with or without improvements
proud creek
lol
pallid loom
proud creek
the leaderboard is so goofy
it needs a revamp
i do NOT need tbe creating a folder and putting random values in it
full berry
burnt locust
i do NOT need tbe creating a folder and putting random values in it
fr
that took an hour
😭
timid quartz
idk java so it looks ugly with or without improvements
maybe you'd prefer it like this
import java.util.LinkedList;
import java.util.Arrays;
import java.util.Stack;
import java.util.Queue;
public class Main
{
static <T extends Queue<Integer>> T rearrangeWithAuxStack(T tzsmells)
{
System.out.println(tzsmells);
Stack<Integer> rearranged = new Stack<>();
for (int i = 0; i < 2; i++)
{
for (Integer entry : tzsmells)
{
if (entry % 2 == i) rearranged.push(entry);
}
}
while (!rearranged.empty())
{
tzsmells.remove();
tzsmells.add(rearranged.pop());
}
while (tzsmells.peek() != null) rearranged.push(tzsmells.remove());
while (!rearranged.empty()) tzsmells.add(rearranged.pop());
return tzsmells;
}
public static void main(String[] unused)
{
System.out.println(rearrangeWithAuxStack(new LinkedList<Integer>(Arrays.asList(3, 5, 4, 17, 6, 83, 1, 84, 16, 37))));
}
}
@snow oak get over here
snow oak
hi
burnt locust
hi
lavish dove
Fr
lavish dove
maybe you'd prefer it like this
```java
import java.util.LinkedList;
import java...
Did you even change anything
umbral monolith
perl is cool imo
timid quartz
Did you even change anything
the curly braces
timid quartz
perl is cool imo
perl is interesting
umbral monolith
I've used it for extracting images from markdown to make it easier to transfer from Microsoft office to a custom solution
timid quartz
@spare quartz maybe im over-engineering the smtp thing
guess the question is whether to make it a library or just an executable
tbh do I even need to wrap this in a struct
spare quartz
<@516049910622191626> maybe im over-engineering the smtp thing
what
you're still working on that?? how much free time do you have
timid quartz
you're still working on that?? how much free time do you have
zero
spare quartz
🤨
spare quartz
i still have about 110 things to finish before i can consider myself free
ashen pollen
god i wish ohio had a API to access UCC filings it could make my work so much easier
thankfully they have afaik zero protection against automated web browsers so i can make something to grab them with selenium
and i realize there is a very low chance anyone knows what im talking about. UCC is Uniform commercial code its a bunch of legal shit about transactions and sales for companies
i have to pull copies for my job so im hoping i can make a script do it for me so i can just paste in a Debtor and it spit out all the copies named in date order into my downloads folder
pallid loom
thankfully they have afaik zero protection against automated web browsers so i c...
automated browsers are a bitch
know from personal experience
there's also selenium
ashen pollen
there's also selenium
thats what im looking at
theres the double punch of it being a goverment website too
full berry
<@516049910622191626> maybe im over-engineering the smtp thing
are you coding it in rust still
timid quartz
yes
full berry
interestingg
timid quartz
why
full berry
no reason, just intriguing that a communication method on this level is scripted in rust 👁️
i can't wait for my rust lessons in school (we have moved from arrays to string methods (python))
spare quartz
no reason, just intriguing that a communication method on this level is scripted...
sir any protocol can be coded on anything
GENERALLY its c
full berry
sir any protocol can be coded on anything
sql 
well sql is not really a programming language
spare quartz
honestly rn i wanna kms
full berry
why bro
full berry
wjat
pallid loom
do you know HOW much effort is put into this
the ffmpeg in question
spare quartz
nonexistent on roblox
pallid loom
the atp in question doing really stupid shit and then being frustrated
spare quartz
only reason i really do roblox anymore is cause its so much more convenient to test a theory/code something and run it fast
pallid loom
we've got a drone that needs to search for people, detect them using ai, and then pinpoint them with a gps marker
this is a drone that is going to be used purely for rescue purposes
spare quartz
i thought it was supposed to deliver medical supplies very quickly..?
spare quartz
maybe i can do that in ada
unfortunately im not rich and dont have hardware to do any form of cv right now
pallid loom
unfortunately im not rich and dont have hardware to do any form of cv right now
the government financing in question
spare quartz
i mean my future plan is to buy a model of a sidewinder and make it
actually work
but AS OF NOW ill wait until i get money
full berry
go work
pallid loom
good fucking luck with that
spare quartz
i already have a seller
full berry
wait atp when are you enlisting 👁️
full berry
yes.
spare quartz
wait atp when are you enlisting 👁️
like 2 years from now if i dont get a degree first
pallid loom
good fucking luck with that
pallid loom
atp you will be suicided by your government
spare quartz
teo ive already spoken to a colonel about how i like to mess with the dod intel communities sites
(as well as 3 other enlisted)
i think im going to be fine
pallid loom
i think im going to be fine
the clueless
spare quartz
pallid loom
just waiting for it
full berry
atp did you see the CIA's new post about how to securely contact them over the tor network
spare quartz
as long as i dont cure cancer
spare quartz
atp did you see the CIA's new post about how to securely contact them over the t...
they send those every year yes
pallid loom
as long as i dont cure cancer
what you're doing is enough
pallid loom
the enemy government in question wanting to recruit engineers
spare quartz
english version
?
spare quartz
so do i bro ..
spare quartz
give me a SEcond
spare quartz
the enemy government in question wanting to recruit engineers
blehhh
pallid loom
pallid loom
im not an engineer though
good enough to make algos for missiles
spare quartz
https://cdn.astrohweston.xyz/u/731585d7-ba26-43d2-98dc-23fffca8df89.png
also why
full berry
why what
spare quartz
why do you want them
full berry
i like to toy around with random things
spare quartz
such as
full berry
your mom
spare quartz
are you planning to send false reports or something
spare quartz
then no
full berry
im jokinggg
spare quartz
fdvujkgvf
spare quartz
no
full berry
why smh
full berry
gah okay
full berry
what is that
spare quartz
click it
full berry
what is it.
full berry
ok what am i looking at,,
spare quartz
nothing!
spare quartz
what did i click on
full berry
wjah
spare quartz
do you want the certs for the site :3
full berry
WHAT even is this site,,
spare quartz
proud creek
is that doors
proud creek
dors logo
proud creek
bro what are you doing
spare quartz
what
spare quartz
why do you need the cia for a logarithmic function
full berry
shur
spare quartz
proud creek
why so serious
full berry
DREAM
timid quartz
man I didn't know that onion links were written in croatian @full berry
full berry
man I didn't know that onion links were written in croatian <@456226577798135808...
is your interpretation of the croatian language still 50% english + smashing the keyboard
timid quartz
spare quartz
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061002618719182980/1291503066201456751/I...
get a NEW joke
timid quartz
get a NEW joke
spare quartz
nya
spare quartz
WRONG CHAT
ITS JUST ONE IMAGE
spare quartz
i was totally expecting that honestyl
another japanese song invaded my feed
unfortunately its good
timid quartz
the algo knows you too well
timid quartz
Guessing this new song also involves fluffy furries
Send it to me in dms @spare quartz
lavish dove
while i prepare to redo the h264 codec.
I want to do the av1 codec
I wonder how difficult av1 is
spare quartz
i hope for your sake its easier
i probably should've just reencoded the video to use RAW or MJPEG
actually no JPEG would probably be painful too
ive never been good at data compression
lavish dove
i probably should've just reencoded the video to use RAW or MJPEG
raw would be too large for any usecase I would try
if an old anime compressed is 20 megabytes... I cannot even imagine how bad a raw video would be...
spare quartz
my goal rn is to get something rendering, and then add codecs on top
but considering one of the test samples is 720p @ 4 minutes long
... nope!
lavish dove
lol
I wonder if my old computer could even read uncompressed video that fast
that drive was slow asf
spare quartz
lemme put in some numbers
spare quartz
I wonder if my old computer could even read uncompressed video that fast
it'd need to read at a pace of 14.03136 mbyte/s for this test sample
(excluding audio)
lavish dove
it'd need to read at a pace of 14.03136 mbyte/s for this test sample
audio wouldnt be alot anyways
but 14 megabytes would probably use alot of that old drive
spare quartz
audio wouldnt be alot anyways
if thats uncompressed too it'd probably be pretty bad..
reencoding compressed audio to be raw aswell would kinda just be rubbing it in tho
lavish dove
I mean .wav from hatsune miku wasnt really that bad
it was mono tho
spare quartz
oh RIGHT
i still need to decode the audio data
and then figure out how to pitchshift a 500 hz sine to get a semblance of audio
lavish dove
o
spare quartz
roblox workarounds™️
hoping in the future they expand the whole Wire system they got going on for custom audio
spare quartz
theres custom audio!?!!?
nono im hoping they add it
spare quartz
wait your making this shit in roblox!?!?
yeah
lavish dove
damn
when I made my video streaming it was raw
I think it was like 2 gigabytes fo throughput for 200 frames
and roblox downloaded it slightly slower than 24 fps
spare quartz
when I made my video streaming it was raw
i made a desktop viewer like that
i tried delaying the stream a bit to fully show at 60 fps
never got it to work though
lavish dove
oof
lavish dove
im gonna see if I can add some rudimentary compression to my thing
I think roblox was throttling the HTTP get's though, if I made it multithread they would complete at the same time
spare quartz
8 requests per second is your limit
lavish dove
I didnt hit a limit on requests per second
just requests per minute
it let me get every frame at the same time
spare quartz
I didnt hit a limit on requests per second
8 req/s was extrapolated from that limit
spare quartz
wait then how did I hit 20 fps streaming
you hit the 500 limit in 25 seconds
lavish dove
you hit the 500 limit in 25 seconds
ah shit
spare quartz
8 req/s was extrapolated from that limit
you should send a request every 1/8 of a second to remain stable
(you may need to send multiple frames in a single request as a result)
lavish dove
so I haved to make a thing that compresses frames, uncompresses them on the roblox end and sends multiple frames!??!??!
might as well reinvent tcp
spare quartz
so I haved to make a thing that compresses frames, uncompresses them on the robl...
yup 👍
nobody said streaming was easy
on the good side if you ever need to make twitch 2 you can
lavish dove
wonder why your mp4 wasnt embedded?
its in .av1
I dont have nitro so I had to use av1 to upload it
spare quartz
ohhh
lavish dove
'
I wonder if you can download the entire episode lmao
how much ram does roblox give you
or well whats the largest a table of buffers can be
spare quartz
how much ram does roblox give you
"infinite" but a server will shut down at a certain point
max sane is about 4-6 gb iirc
spare quartz
script wise yeah its a ton
lavish dove
thats actually an insane ammount when a few hundred thousand of those are running at the same time
and probably millions when adoptme updates
spare quartz
the memory cap scales with your usage (recent change)
generally the heavy hitter in memory usage comes w/ a lot of players or physics objs
lavish dove
oof
spare quartz
though uh
lavish dove
wait now I want to make a thing that can handle hundreds of players
like it sends http to a master server that acutally handles the players
spare quartz
there is a sorta implicit limit of memory in lua
lavish dove
I dont think so
spare quartz
because of how "slow" it is, you hit a throughput limit
spare quartz
not as fast as a regular computer so you have to cut edges at some points
(part of why we can't make screenspace shaders, let us at the gpu!!)
lavish dove
lol
proud creek
the memory cap scales with your usage (recent change)
Supposedly it gives you more for each player in the server
spare quartz
oh
the 500hz test tone on studio was playing this entire time
just muted cause it was out of focus
what
lavish dove
https://liliputing.com/sandisk-introduces-the-first-8tb-sd-and-4tb-microsd-cards...
who tf is brad linder and why are you trusting him
lavish dove
https://liliputing.com/sandisk-introduces-the-first-8tb-sd-and-4tb-microsd-cards...
the largest is 512 gigabytes. And you can only get that if you buy in bulk for a business
spare quartz
who tf is brad linder and why are you trusting him
spare quartz
the largest is 512 gigabytes. And you can only get that if you buy in bulk for a...
and
1 tb has existed for a "while" now
lavish dove
no way
spare quartz
we're starting to see 1.5 tb
lavish dove
👀
spare quartz
but will it be able to hold the AAA games of the future i wonder
a 512 micro sd is actually kinda cheap
never thought id be saying that
lavish dove
but will it be able to hold the AAA games of the future i wonder
lol
lavish dove
a 512 micro sd is actually kinda cheap
512 byte maybe
spare quartz
512 GB
lavish dove
wait I can prot my renderer thing to a bootsector I just realized that
WOAH WHAT THE FUCK 512 GIGABYTE IS 32 BUCK!s?!??!
spare quartz
yeah 💀
lavish dove
THATS LARGER THAN MY FUCKING SSD
spare quartz
32 GB (pack of 2/4) are dirt cheap too
lavish dove
FOR A PACK OF THEM!??!
spare quartz
its just lacking in R/W speed (but not by much to be honest)
spare quartz
i wanna try a stupid engineering project in the future (GDDR6 on DDR4)
itll probably not work though,,,
lavish dove
i wanna try a stupid engineering project in the future (GDDR6 on DDR4)
wat
are you gonna hold a DDR4 stick hostage until it goes up to GDDR6 speeds
spare quartz
no clue!!
GDDR modules are pretty expensive though so
probably will only be a few gb of capacity (if anything)
spare quartz
id probably die
lavish dove
I think theres a way to make your own cpu without having a few million to get those fancy tricking silicon into thinking machines
oh yeah you can make it like they did the old way
I dont know how you would even find info on that though
spare quartz
I think theres a way to make your own cpu without having a few million to get th...
it is just decoders and some registers iirc
lavish dove
yeah but their size is measured in atoms
spare quartz
super simple ICs you can get for cheap
spare quartz
yeah but their size is measured in atoms
oh those are a totally different class of semiconductors honestly
spare quartz
spare quartz
isnt there a cheap way to make those
they're manufactured in the same way as CPUs, just a lot more cheaper because you can put a lot on a single wafer
lavish dove
woa
spare quartz
if i really wanted i could maybe like
sketch up a cpu design and ask a manufacturer to make ics out of it
but
- i suck at electronics
- that'd cost a lot of money i dont have
lavish dove
yeah thats what i was talking about with millions
spare quartz
it depends on the process as well
lavish dove
ik the machines are expensive and wont fit in your garage
spare quartz
10nm lithography is much harder than 600nm for example
lavish dove
it depends on the process as well
wartyuiop-=
lavish dove
10nm lithography is much harder than 600nm for example
yes the lithography thing
isnt there a cheap lithography machine
spare quartz
ik the machines are expensive and wont fit in your garage
a silicon wafer machine would be a DREAM to have
lavish dove
that fits on a desk
spare quartz
it'd cost thousands though
lavish dove
aaw
lavish dove
yeah those are in all the advertisements
big shiny disc is the best thing ever to show a investor
spare quartz
well its a lot prettier to show that than the boules
lavish dove
what the fuck are those
lavish dove
o
lavish dove
http://sam.zeloof.xyz/maskless-photolithography/
woah this guy took a projector jerry rigged it then glued it onto a microscope and he started lithography
at the end he says he just pointed a projector at a microscope without even jerry rigging it and it worked perfectly
spare quartz
serializer now virtually perfect
should probably make it less aggressive on stuff like booleans
spare quartz
good enough for science
there NOW its perfect...
but values should really be ref counted instead of immediately being stored in a variable....
Out of local registers when trying to allocate SK_CE_CameraEditor_Content_Colour_Value_TextButton_TextLabel: exceeded limit 200
well thats a new error!!
umbral monolith
do you know HOW much effort is put into this
@normal bison reveal
proud creek
Fr
normal bison
<@770091443733659681> reveal
am not a stink yeen
umbral monolith
am not a stink yeen
yeah right
spare quartz
WHAT THE FUCK
i rendered the uvs wrong 😭
full berry
render them right then
spare quartz
render them right then
full berry
spare quartz
normal bison
yeah right
where’s your proof
umbral monolith
where’s your proof
i dont need it :3
spare quartz
the only sane part of qs
normal bison
normal bison
i dont need it :3
then your claim is invalid
spare quartz
THERE
now its perfect
referenced counted and no longer fills up the local limit
now i just need to compress the actual locals...
should be as simple as a type generator
proud creek
young needle
urrgghhh gay people
proud creek
you
spare quartz
This is a no jokes channel. We will shoot you on the first sight of sillyness.
young needle
spare quartz
pastel tinsel
so true
proud creek
spare quartz
mrow
full berry
pastel tinsel
Lmfao
young needle
pastel tinsel
I cannot
spare quartz
file system design
spare quartz
spare quartz
hmm
thats a horrible idea
add support for java in the serializer
what
how does my serializer already outperform codify??
spare quartz
im looking at reclass
and im beating myself over how simple it is
you're saying i could've been paid for making this??
spare quartz
https://devforum.roblox.com/t/codify-convert-anything-to-luau-typescript-fusion-...
i think im gonna throw up
spare quartz
I SAW THAT
timid quartz
HAWK TUAH TRANSFER PROTOCOL
spare quartz
i chuckled a bit its a terrible joke
timid quartz
https://fixupx.com/Lucretiel/status/1842348383014629583
But don’t you love reading through poorly documented and poorly written Java code
spare quartz
steam tranferral complete!
timid quartz
Or arcane C code with #define macros that literally look like they came from a 15th century spell tome?
spare quartz
But don’t you love reading through poorly documented and poorly written Java cod...
java code is moderately easy to understand just by looking at it
spare quartz
Or arcane C code with #define macros that literally look like they came from a 1...
C........
ill just leave it at that
timid quartz
C........
🎵
Program in C, program in C!
Pointers, assembly, manage your memory with malloc() and free()!
Don’t sink your app with runtime bloat.
Software in C will stay afloat!
Do what you want there, close to the hardware, program in C!
[instrumenta- SEGFAULT
spare quartz
replace that with General Protection Fault and you now have the version for embedded programmers
timid quartz
Dude
Ok
So
A few months ago I remembered I had an Arch partition and I wanted to try Sober out
However it kept crashing every time I opened it even after reinstalling multiple times
With a general protection fault
spare quartz
ugh. bleh. that thing
timid quartz
I commented on a similar open issue on their GH but it got closed after a few days
spare quartz
i wonder why it had a gpf?
timid quartz
And the only way I fixed it was by reinstalling arch entirely
spare quartz
???
timid quartz
Yep
spare quartz
was it just not playing nice with a system library or something?
timid quartz
I have absolutely no clue
spare quartz
honestly i dont really
"trusts" not the right word, but i just dislike sober from the way it immediately presents itself
its literally just like bluestacks with roblox installed it doesn't need to be this flashy and "closed source"
everywhere i go
i see its name
woven flicker
"trusts" not the right word, but i just dislike sober from the way it immediatel...
i dont trust it if its closed source...
atleast when it comes to most linux junk
spare quartz
i dont trust it if its closed source...
the nsa backdoor in your cpu:
spare quartz
the correct answer is "i trust the nsa" smh
woven flicker
vinegarhq
i could TEST sober but im not all that confident
i can rather easily reinstall arch cause i have separate home partition but
bleh
woven flicker
its literally just like bluestacks with roblox installed it doesn't need to be t...
i dont think its like bluestacks
seems more like wine or some shit
spare quartz
it says right on its page its just an android emulator for roblox
woven flicker
it says its a runtime "bridging the gap between android and linux"
spare quartz
an emulator yes
woven flicker
fair
but aint bluestacks different
its a container
a vm
or wtv
not a specialized runtime
spare quartz
probably but im just pointing it out at a high level
not like theres a source to really know
woven flicker
well
do you think its worth testing?
spare quartz
?
woven flicker
you know what i said
spare quartz
whats worth testing
woven flicker
sober
spare quartz
well im not a linux or sober user so thats your choice
woven flicker
im a linux user
fuck it ima try
kind of annoying tho
considering im gonna have to install
flatpak
ew
spare quartz
flatpak is good
woven flicker
i dont like stuff like flatpak or snap
if you wanna do crap like that just give me an appimage
or whatever i dont even
remember
spare quartz
lavish dove
🎵
Program in C, program in C!
Pointers, assembly, manage your memory with mall...
embedded programmers managing memory by using parts fo it when they need it because they are too lazy to implement malloc and free
is there a android emulator that isnt 50 gigabytes to install
and works on linux
cant find anything
lavish dove
what a bunch of bullshit
theres a av1 coder thing that uses opencl and it works on fucking everything
lavish dove
flatpak is good
why cant I copy paste something and just have it installed for flatpak
like bruh
wtf violated rule 2
uhm how is a flatpak command violating rule 2
anyways why cant I jsut copy paste a flatpak command and ahve it downloaded
plsu the downloads are really fucking slow
and it wont finish any downloads if they fail, it will restart them.. and the sizes of them are in teh fucking gigabytes
lavish dove
ohh
lyric mesa
because our filter is weird
lavish dove
because our filter is weird
discord filter turning into roblox filter
lyric mesa
discord filter turning into roblox filter
it's a filter we made 😭
full berry
uhm how is a flatpak command violating rule 2
whar
woven flicker
@signin.aws.amazon.com
@spare quartz honest to god
sober is actually kinda good
its either running equal or BETTER to roblox on windows
with no stability issues so far
and thats with no optimization changes
spare quartz
afaik the android subset is more restricted than the desktop version due to.. it being made for mobile devices
so that sounds about right
woven flicker
its the exact same as desktop roblox
thats how it looks
feels
and acta
acts*
spare quartz
internally?
woven flicker
internally its probably the android build tricked to function like desktop
spare quartz
afaik the android subset is more restricted than the desktop version due to.. it...
so yeah
woven flicker
but it looks the exact same
and acts as it
i'd just say
its better
its just better
timid quartz
I thought Roblox blocked Linux
They blocked Wine
pastel tinsel
then what does sober use
timid quartz
@spare quartz didn’t know you worked on Arc browser
spare quartz
im not a fox 💀
spare quartz
rn im kinda wanting to kill someone because i just discovered a feature i never knew existed in roblox
spare quartz
<@516049910622191626> didn’t know you worked on Arc browser
WAIT WHY IS MY NAME THERE
timid quartz
WAIT WHY IS MY NAME THERE
That's why I said "I didn't know you worked on Arc browser"
spare quartz
okay look im blind
timid quartz
also
tried discord streaming on wayland with firefox
worked in regular vc, crashed in dms 
timid quartz
make a discord client in rust for full control
but that breaks TOS and will get you banned!!!!
timid quartz
👎
spare quartz
spare quartz
lavish dove
tried discord streaming on wayland with firefox
why do they haved to make a whole new thing
like cant they make x12 or something
timid quartz
why do they haved to make a whole new thing
idk something about x11 sucking really bad and just being old and designed bad
wayland architecture is supposedly a lot better because it prevents stuff like any arbitrary x11 app being able to keylog you
and other stuff idk im not well versed
lavish dove
idk something about x11 sucking really bad and just being old and designed bad
well if it was designed bad it would be replaced by now
lavish dove
wayland architecture is supposedly a lot better because it prevents stuff like a...
well I mean it works the same way in windows
timid quartz
well if it was designed bad it would be replaced by now
......wayland
you also forget how slowly things move in regards to major software like this
Wayland started in '08
lavish dove
Wayland started in '08
goddamn
why cant they update x11 to x12?
lol
well why didnt they?
if x11 was flawed, I think the main thing was because of required 2D acceleration
why didnt they just make a new version that was better
especially if wayland is made up of people who used to be with xorg
lavish dove
lol
lavish dove
get some hallucinated ai bullshit that will answer your question idfk
I just looked it up
wayland is made by the same guy who made x11
timid quartz
so then it's basically x12
lavish dove
yeah
they didnt change x11 because they "didnt have the power to"
cuz every computer used it it was too difficult to just update
lavish dove
which is kinda weird but ok
proud creek
@pastel tinsel linux massgrave!!
pastel tinsel
lmao
pastel tinsel
https://cdn.astrohweston.xyz/u/cd70fc93-d290-4019-a2d9-0e5e1c9f5c3b.png
L no more stupid jet brains
lavish dove
https://fixupx.com/shidoxo/status/1842659428203475454/photo/1
where debian
spare quartz
where debian
hidden fourth option
lavish dove
W
full berry
L no more stupid jet brains
ur stupid + i renewed my license :3
lavish dove
ur stupid + i renewed my license :3
why tf is making a android app so fucking complex
my fucking hello world makefile is 60 lines
and theres like 8 gigabytes of bloat
atleast the final apk is pretty small
it wont let me add any files to the apk though because theyre "duplicates"???? I kid you not its going
./assets/test.txt is a duplicate of
./assets/test.txt (original)
AAPT. They arent duplicates theyre the same fucking file you fucking 8 gigabyte bloat dumbass
I ended up copying some guys example then rewriting the entire fucking makefile because he used some weird linker and ahd a weird version of clang
LMAO IT CRASHED VSCODE NAWW
apparently if you click sync changes after downloading 8 gigabytes of bloat vscode crashes
and apparently github reatelimits you to 2 megabytes a second
proud creek
use like android studio or something 😭 😭
full berry
isnt android made in like java
proud creek
I think it’s kotlin now
full berry
interesting
lavish dove
use like android studio or something 😭 😭
thats literally like 50 gigabtyes fo bloat
I literally dont ahve a drive big enough to hold that thing 😭
proud creek
Lmfaooo
timid quartz
https://fixupx.com/shidoxo/status/1842659428203475454/photo/1
windows 👍
TS 
vsc 👎
spare quartz
vsc is TOLERABLE
its not super smart and sometimes the language server just doesnt want to live anymore (but i think thats more an adacore thing)
ts is just the pits of hell though
full berry
is this true
NO
timid quartz
yeah ts isn't great
if I had to use it then it wouldn't be as bad as having to use python
but given a choice i'd choose smth different
vsc is just ehhh electron bloat
ig it works most of the time and is easy to set up but like
mmm
spare quartz
if adacore still developed GPS id still use that
full berry
intellij >>>
spare quartz
unfortunately the only version i can access is from 2013 and the modern versions are behind massive paywalls
spare quartz
yeah ts isn't great
rust to wasm .......... ?
timid quartz
rust to wasm .......... ?
no that's worse
if I'm developing a website I'd rather use TS because JS (and TS by extension) are web native
wasm is just too immature
spare quartz
im gonna be honest i have no idea how wasm actually works
but if its anything like the real asm it must be somewhat good
spare quartz
I don't think one writes wasm directly
same with ASM, honestly
timid quartz
also wasm seems less useful for making interactive websites and more useful for making web apps that need better native performance
eg if you make davinci resolve in a web browser
you'd choose wasm because of the performance
and probably still keep the interface in JS
you'd use wasm for all of the graphics processing work intensive stuff
spare quartz
an app is just an interactive format in a different format, no?
ood
GOd
interactive WEBSITE
i just woke up sorry
timid quartz
you'd use wasm for all of the graphics processing work intensive stuff
the stuff that JS would choke on
spare quartz
okay so basically the native keyword in java
timid quartz
yeah prob
spare quartz
... still ... you could just do away with the middleman, can't you?
timid quartz
well it's a lot easier to make 1 web app that runs on like just chrome
rather than make at least a windows and a mac app
spare quartz
we should bring back java applets
timid quartz
spare quartz
hey they furthered the internet along by a ton
timid quartz
go back to the 1990s they want their tech back
spare quartz
though SecurityManager kinda sucked balls...
timid quartz
java sucks balls sometimes
timid quartz
dotnet runtime >>
spare quartz
scripting docs :<
timid quartz
c# >>
spare quartz
c# >>
abstract computing machines on top
take your .NET and go away
actually that just made me think
if i do make a JVM in ada... how do i do garbage collection??
timid quartz
cry
spare quartz
i wonder if the basic memory allocators could handle it
(but ive never made an ada app over like, 6 mb of memory)
spare quartz
cry
isnt C# garbage collected?
or like that RAII thing
(which iirc is just cleaning up after leaving a scope)
timid quartz
pretty sure C# is gc
spare quartz
or like that RAII thing
wait C++ is RAII
RAII is associated most prominently with C++, where it originated, but also Ada,[3] Vala,[4] and Rust.[5]
cool
timid quartz
Rust's design really encourages RAII I think
timid quartz
take your .NET and go away
the CLR was made to be language-agnostic and supports closures, coroutines, and pointer manipluation :3
spare quartz
the CLR was made to be language-agnostic and supports closures, coroutines, and ...
what is a clr ...
cat language runtime
spare quartz
Rust's design really encourages RAII I think
what because of the whole borrowing logic?
timid quartz
yeah
spare quartz
i like the way ada does it, but i get a lot more scopes as a result
spare quartz
that's why you should use it
mmmmmmmmmmmmm maybe ...
but at that point iid just use kotlin
and maybe kotlin/native if thats stable enough
timid quartz
or you could just use .net
spare quartz
or you could just use .net
im trying to find a picture of a function in C# with like
10 modifiers/prefixes/whatever is the name for those things
spare quartz
yes
what else could be a prefix
oh my god downloading imageso n this internet is a pain
timid quartz
can you do operator overloading
spare quartz
where
spare quartz
uhhhhhhhhhhhh
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
well in kotlin yes but java. ...
i say unfair constraints
LINQ extends the language by the addition of query expressions, which are akin to SQL statements, and can be used to conveniently extract and process data from arrays, enumerable classes, XML documents, relational databases, and third-party data sources.
this sounds like peak microsoft but
i dont. know what it means
timid quartz
i dont. know what it means
using System;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using System.Linq;
public class Person
{
public string Name { get; set; }
public int Age { get; set; }
}
public class Program
{
public static void Main()
{
// Create a list of Person objects
List<Person> people = new List<Person>
{
new Person { Name = "Alice", Age = 30 },
new Person { Name = "Bob", Age = 25 },
new Person { Name = "Charlie", Age = 35 },
new Person { Name = "David", Age = 28 }
};
// Use LINQ to filter and sort the list
var filteredAndSortedPeople = from person in people
where person.Age > 27
orderby person.Name
select person;
// Display the results
foreach (var person in filteredAndSortedPeople)
{
Console.WriteLine($"{person.Name}, Age: {person.Age}");
}
}
}
idk I just like C# better than Java
it feels better
more well designed
but that's entirely subjective
and in the end they're both pretty similar
spare quartz
```cs
using System;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using System.Linq;
public...
oh that is WEIRD
very kotlin like (everything else) though
filteredAndSortedPeople is very easy to do in kotlin aswell, just not in that sql format
timid quartz
oh that is WEIRD
yeah the alternative is like person.filter(p => p.Age > 27).sort() or whatever
spare quartz
people.filter { it.age > 27 }.sort() for kotlin
timid quartz
it
spare quartz
default receiver!!
spare quartz
timid quartz
did I ever say how much I love sql
spare quartz
no because you dont
timid quartz
no I really do though
spare quartz
🤨
timid quartz
I've been doing so many things in software that I could have just done in SQL
for example for qdf, getting how many hours someone has patrolled this month
timid quartz
select
Operative.roblox_username as 'Name',
sum(timestampdiff(HOUR, Patrol.start_time, Patrol.end_time)) as `Total Time` from Patrol
inner join Operative on Operative.id = Patrol.operative_id
where Patrol.start_time >= '2024/09/01'
group by Operative.roblox_username
order by `Total Time` DESC;
statement
timid quartz
I should be preparing statements like this but
idk the orm that the bot uses may prepare them
spare quartz
"sanitizes inputs"
"idk if it prepares statements"
spare quartz
instead of typing out that whole thing and introducing holes in your statement... you can just use it like a function!!
timid quartz
why would I need to prepare them
here
if you switch to C#
I will use prepared statements
spare quartz
im only loyal to really ada and lua rn ...
what should i write in c# to make you do that
spare quartz
any project in specific
timid quartz
all of them in general
spare quartz
because the kotlin project i work on rn cant use C# (minecraft mod)
timid quartz
yeah except for cases where you're restricted like that
spare quartz
NO
timid quartz
I will advocate for using transactions
timid quartz
fine...
dns server sounds ok
though it's fairly simple
add security into it too
dnssec
timid quartz
dns runs over udp anyways nerd
