Mario RPGs (Mario & Luigi, Paper Mario, ...)

[frozen vapor]

mainly area textures and shadows

its prolly because well the switch but i have seen that console pull insane results with games

like uh idk a steak

and this game does also pull insanely good looking things like the water

but yea i couldnt stop noticing the super low 240P esque grass or the pixelated shadows even when from far away. I dont know anything right now but im guessing this game was proly on a pretty strict deadline and/or they proly had to work on a specific budget because well this is the franchise that finally released something after one of the worst selling mario games in history so im not surprised if Nintendo was trying to play it safe in a sort of way

but yea i guess you can count this as my non spoiler review of this game even tho im like 10 hours into the game and im like slowly getting halfway through it

[shrewd moss]

and not to mention, that worst selling game got beaten by a port of a wii u game for a series which even by that time people were kinda tired of

now that was just dirty

[frozen vapor]

dude, BIS remake is right alongside Mario Tennis for the fuckin Virtual Boy in terms of sales numbers

9K copies Mario Tennis sold

[shrewd moss]

dang, that bad?

[frozen vapor]

yea

33 thousand copies

[shrewd moss]

that stings even hard to be beaten by a Virtual Boy game

which those games are not bad, they just suffer from being horrible to the eyes

[frozen vapor]

Virtual Boy games are fine and somewhat even enjoyable when played on an emulator

[shrewd moss]

Virtual Boy Wario Land is a goated game for VB

Mario Clash as well

[frozen vapor]

the bowsers inside story remake isnt bad btw but theres one major issue

its in 30 FPS rather than its original with was 60 FPS, normally im not a snob for game frame rates unless its literally unplayable like 5 frames per second

but well i was so familiar with the original and its frame rate that i was basically having the same issues as rn with brothership

i end up timing my attacks pretty early which leads to mistakes i feel like they werent my fault

[shrewd moss]

||i can hear her gritting her teeth to say just the mario's brother part to make it sound nice enough, like she hates to say it but has to||

||it would be even better if she just said Mario's beloved brother||

||she does say his name a few times, i am going on the idea that Starlow is a tsundere towards Luigi the whole time by being snarky, but she genuinely does like him deep down||

[gloomy halo]

This is why the remake is inferior

You can’t screencap this one as easily

[loud crown]

😔

[sharp wind]

Just got brother ship and LET'S GO

[sharp wind]

Not as clippable, this is sad

[shy nest]

||The extension corp is now the gang that is not willing to say Mario and Luigi and instead names them red and green stache||

[frozen vapor]

https://x.com/TheNCSmaster/status/1855641378300080173

TheNCSmaster (@TheNCSmaster) on X

The score is whatever, it’s IGN

But trying to milk this many posts about it is pathetic

Twitter · Nov 10, 2024, 3:59 PM

they really wanna act like they are proud with that review huh

[shrewd moss]

ahhh theres the IGN we all know and hate

[nocturne sandal]

I honestly think the game is doing well. I don't think anything is wrong is just hard to get used to pressing A for Luigi when choosing what option to do

And well yeah just a bit disappointing that Luigi jumps obstacles automatically without pressing the Logic option

[haughty sage]

That did throw me off

I’ve also had a couple instances where I attack with the hammer and use Y and X because those are the field controls for it

But that actually works

[nocturne sandal]

Yeah it works lol

Jumping too if you don't know

[haughty sage]

Funny

[nocturne sandal]

There was an instance where I press X trying to jump dodge I thought I miss clicked because obviously I wanted to press A but it did work

Don't use it anyway but is just interesting

I do blame all of this in the new developers of course, but it's not the worst thing ever, like IGN makes it sound

[edgy wind]

So I've been playing a ton of Brothership and I've been really enjoying myself. I will have to echo many of the criticisms that some y'all have had with game and I even have a few of my own (the small gap between Mario and Green 'Stache bothers me more than it has any reason to). Apart from those ultimately minor grievances (mostly), I think this game might be on the higher echelons of the series.

The one thing I have really had to come to terms with is Yoko Shimomura not coming back to compose for this game. I'm all for having new composers take over the helm but man, Yoko was one of the main reasons I really enjoyed the past games. She really did put of love and care into her music for this series.

With that being said, I do think Hideki Sakamoto does a pretty good job filling in the shoes of Yoko and I've caught myself listening to and even humming some of the tunes when I'm out and about. His stuff is pretty cool and catchy and honestly, I wouldn't mind if he replaced Yoko for any future entries going forward.

[shrewd moss]

what would be amazing or the best case scenario is that Yoko were to return for the next M&L game if they do want to do another one

or atleast offering the chance to compose for this series again, got no issue with Hideki's music for this game

[edgy wind]

I think the main reason why Yoko wasn't involved this time around was because she was too busy composing for KH4 and that might be taking up most of, if not all, her time and that's understandable of course.

(That's what I've been hearing online at least)

But as far as I understand, she isn't the sole composer for KH from what I know so she theoretically could have contributed at least a few tracks to Brothership (assuming she had the time/wasn't under some contract which would prohibit that) which I think could have been best case scenario and most people would've been content with it.

Me personally, I would have loved for Yoko to return since she is one of my favorite composers in all of gaming and her work is almost always perfection. Especially for this series. Her work on this series means so much to me and hell, her music is the reason I got into VGM as a whole. She gave this series a unique musical identity that is hard for even some of the most seasoned composers out there to replicate.

However if she were to get replaced from here on out for whatever reason, I don't think I'd have too many complaints with Hideki succeeding her. Good music is good music at the end of the day and I think that's what matters most here.

[frozen vapor]

Just now i realized Yoko Shimomura didnt worked on this game

I was like "damn, Yoko was in the studio again."

[gloomy mica]

ya the music style is already quite apparent and different

[sharp wind]

Starlow is just yellow Kirby without arms

Cursed knowledge is now yours

[sharp wind]

Is it Hideki working on this game?
Absolutely awesome!

[loud crown]

It also has a floating star on it's head and it can shit talk to people aswell, mind you

[sharp wind]

Tbh, would be better if she didn't speak at all

[gloomy halo]

Background noise

[haughty sage]

I don’t speak Poyonese. Maybe Kirby is also slinging insults constantly

[loud crown]

True !!!

[loud crown]

Peak Mid obtained

[gloomy halo]

But snips where is the game rating

How will I know this isn’t R18+

[loud crown]

Oh yeahh....

Starlow is gonna say fuck, isn't she...?

Damn, my personalized copy is screwed, she's gonna drop an LTG rant on my ass

[gloomy halo]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-lighting-intrusive-thoughts-kill-yourself-gif-11613640131860305725

[haughty sage]

That would go so hard lmao

[loud crown]

He's trying his best, okay?

[edgy wind]

Not really a spoiler for Brothership but I'll spoiler tag it either way

||Fun Fact: Did you know that if you idle in battle for a while, the camera will pan around with different angles?||

[obsidian ocean]

I gotta say, the more I play, the more I notice the using A to select Luigi commands issue actually bugging me (but it's for a legit reason, I get annoyed having to immediately swap my finger to the B button after selecting an attack command and I occasionally miss an input if I zone out during a battle, how did the devs not realize that would be an issue????)

Granted, it's a minor issue that's not genuinely affecting my enjoyment of the game but it is an issue regardless

[gloomy halo]

Do you still press L to cancel a move or is it B now?

[haughty sage]

It’s B now

[obsidian ocean]

It's B yeah

[haughty sage]

Such a random change

It’s not like the L button overlaps with anything in battle either

The only thing it does is trigger Luigi Logic outside of battle

[sharp wind]

glad I'm not the only one struggling with this for no reason at all

I have fumbled a number of attacks from forgetting Luigi does not select the action command using B and using A for his jump/hammer attacks

[frozen vapor]

https://vxtwitter.com/ContendoYT/status/1857111819481186796

[loud crown]

I saw that one coming as soon as i saw the thumbnail lol

[shrewd moss]

Wega Wisdom

[obsidian ocean]

I just did the 100 ball rally thing, and it took forever to get it

The prize you get for it is not even worth, don't do it if you value your sanity lol

[sand flower]

I tried that minigame once then went "nah I'm not gonna waste my time on this" lol

[haughty sage]

Idk ||2x lucky chance|| seems really good to me

Frankly it seems to be the best way for Luigi to deal damage

[obsidian ocean]

You can already get a similar accessory that's slightly weaker

[haughty sage]

1.5x vs 2.0x is double the bonus

[obsidian ocean]

||I also don't know how much of an impact the extra lucky chance even makes||

[haughty sage]

||I don't think we know and it's been confusing in the past games as well. Apparently in Bowser's Inside Story it was Stache/4 - Enemy Level/8||

||So it's possible it depends on the enemy level in this game as well||

[loud crown]

I like how the characters talk in animalese in Brothership now

[haughty sage]

They really do huh

Honestly like

I got used to it with the Concordian people but then I heard like a Toad or Peach speaking and it threw me off

[loud crown]

Oh

Oh man i wish the brothers had more than 1 line of italian gibberish for each

Ooooo the hidden blocks now ocassionally shine a little reflection to indicate their location

Neat stuff

[haughty sage]

Yeah it’s a nice touch, makes them easier to find

[loud crown]

Luigi Logic 🔥🔥🔥

[gloomy halo]

Miles edgeworth logic vs Luigi logic

[loud crown]

Choosing Luigi's action with A and then having him actually attacking with B kinda threw me off ngl

[shrewd moss]

oh no, Mario and Luigi's italian language of the gods has spread to the other characters, now they speak the same language, one of us could be next

you'll never know when you could be speaking- Baratanituna badicadoritanateniti, yadedarinkastubaranata

[sharp wind]

Luigi's voice lines are simply PERFECT

This game had the best conversations between the brothers, imo

Nothing like three rounds of beautiful Italian gibberish as they fight each other over catching a bug

Shame that brothership only has like

Two voice lines for each of them

Killed the vibe

[loud crown]

That's what i'm sayin' !!!

[obsidian ocean]

I mean, it also helps they're usually in dead ends with nothing else in them

Everytime I hit one now I'm like "Oh there's probably a hidden block here"

[haughty sage]

Sometimes they're just in the middle of an open area with other stuff in them though

What's funny is that sometimes a cutscene will have the camera pan over a wider area and you'll see the glint of them in there

[sharp wind]

Yes! That's happened so many time.

[loud crown]

This is my favourite theme from the game so far
https://youtu.be/cZgaTw9Cp4I

I felt such an insurmountable amount of joy listening to this

[gloomy halo]

https://youtu.be/NBMzrA2F-Gw?si=pW6uLWKqShBssxwe

So this is the first time I’m listening to the Brothership themes

So far only the normal and two? boss themes

Oh my god they’re groovy

Apart from the normal them not really having a distinct melody or one that I haven’t picked up on

These are really good

Also this is probably spoilers but does Brothership have any “gimmick” battles

Like giant bowser/luigi and paper crafts

[nocturne sandal]

Such a banger. Arguably the "best" island theme. I do like it but there's a few other themes I also think they're pretty good

[shy nest]

I'd say Luigi Logic is this games gimmick

[shy nest]

I'll be honest: Some of Brotherships OST isn't as memorable as previous ones for me

[nocturne sandal]

I don't think we're allowed to compare because is a different composer, because in that regard then Brothership's ost would get overshadowed by the previous one

I'd like to think that Brothership's ost fits the game quite well

[shy nest]

It for sure isn't bad

Tbf, once I've played the game a bit more, it might become more memorable

[shy nest]

It definitely takes a different direction, which is nice

[nocturne sandal]

Side quests give a a bit of backtracking so you'll start humming the themes quite often lol

But the one you'll hear the most is definitely the battle theme

That is stuck to my head these past few weeks

And being entirely honest, I prefer this ost more than Paper Jam

[grizzled matrix]

how'd you rank the osts of all the M&L games, kia?

[nocturne sandal]

1. Dream Team
2. Bowser's Inside Story
3. Superstar Saga
4. Brothership
5. Partners in Time
6. Paper Jam

Brothership could go higher I still need to hear more

As for the remakes osts, those can be the same position as their original

[grizzled matrix]

1. Dream team
2. Bowser's Inside Story
3. Superstar saga + Bowser's Minions
4. Bowser's inside story + bowser jr's journey
5. Superstar saga
6. Partners in Time
7. Paper Jam
   tbd: Brothership

yeah, it does look similar to what i have

[nocturne sandal]

I would maybe argue with Dream Team and Bowser's Inside Story

Mostly because of nostalgia

[gloomy halo]

Yeah it’s crazy how dream team is amazing all through out

I honestly think BIS’s themes are overrated for the most part

They’re not bad but i dunno I don’t hold them to the same regard as listening to them the first time

[sharp wind]

I can now say that Brothership is one of the hardest Mario and Luigi games.
I haven't played Dream Team so I don't know how hard that game is but it's definitely up there.

[sharp wind]

Of the ones I played the way through?

1. Bowser's Inside Story
2. Brothership
3. Paper Jam
4. Partners in Time
5. Superstar Saga

Again, missing Dream Team because I never got a chance to actually play it

I was still in the tutorial when I lost my 2DS, essentially.

[sharp wind]

Reasonable, PiT and DT pop off, musically.

Dude, ranking these games on music alone is borderline impossible

[icy narwhal]

Yeah that's a tough one I love all their osts fairly equally

Dream Team will always be special to me though

[nocturne sandal]

A list can be misleading but if I had to put them in a tier list based in ost I would put them in S and A

[sharp wind]

Accurate depiction of how the M&L ost is

[formal merlin]

hard to say because dream team has a hard mode

i say, coming out of nowhere, having never played brothership

[gloomy halo]

I found paper jam to be very hard going in blind

Bosses typically move first and have many actions

And timing counterattacks feels a lot more tedious and punishing if you miss

[haughty sage]

||Allsand|| Island spoilers

Here we go again…

Oh wait I don’t have to get over 100 again I think

Thank goodness

[sharp wind]

For all of you who've (maybe) beaten Brothership, I have a question for you:
||What level were you when you fought Glohm Bowser? I'm level 31 right now and getting absolutely cooked. I genuinely can't tell if it's skill issue or if the games just have that much of a gap in difficulty now||
(Endgame spoilers)

[loud crown]

Oop

Hol on, they actually had more gibberish voicelines than i thought
https://youtube.com/shorts/er4k2QvCzrw

[nocturne sandal]

Kevin killed it

[loud crown]

I heard people says that while it is still gibberish, it now actually sounds convincing as to how Italian people speaks

Yeah Kevin is getting significantly better as time goes on

[loud crown]

Their faces 😭

"I'm-a not so sure about this, Luigi"

[shrewd moss]

Picture 1
"This is not-a okie dokie!" - Mario
Wega scream - Luigi

Picture 2
"Can you-a believe this shit, Luigi?"

[frozen vapor]

https://vxtwitter.com/JotadoDaGoatado/status/1859370814107210175

[sharp wind]

This is EXACTLY how Luigi Logic works

Some of the stuff Luigi thinks up genuinely scares me though

It makes sense to do but like

In reality, that is so unnecessarily brutal

[frozen vapor]

unironic theory is that i believe that Dream Team helped him grow like insane amount of braincells

[shrewd moss]

Luigi probably gained a lot of self awareness of how the rules of his own world works, and came up with his own way to bend them to his will, ever so subtley, and he created Luigi Logic

Mario just goes with the flow with anything, but Luigi has achieved spacial awareness

[loud crown]

Omg, it literally is Wega 😭

[loud crown]

Perfect

[gilded perch]

Got Brothership the other day to let every know BUT hadn’t played it yet I will complete another game first

[loud crown]

Mood

[frozen vapor]

Im starting to feel slightly annoyed by the fact that the game has a lot of padding tbh

[frozen vapor]

Maybe this is common in alot of RPGs but there are alot of moments in thks game that feel like they could have been alot faster or moments that honestly wouldve improved alot of things

[haughty sage]

Oh lmao

Just finished fighting ||Gobblick DX||, had pretty rough time. It took me 4 tries

Checked back on the quest details after the fight to see where it wanted me to go next and just noticed the recommended level was 35

And I’m 27

No wonder

[haughty sage]

Worth though

||The boots it gave me as a reward were a +60 attack boost for Mario||

[tough ore]

lol i did the same thing at the exact same level yesterday.

those boots destroy everything

[haughty sage]

I just got 50 HP in 1 turn from them

And the damage output is crazy

They're so good

Very much looking forward to the next one

[haughty sage]

||Bowser sounds so weird in Animalese||

[frozen vapor]

https://youtu.be/o7PTCfavB-4?si=07NSoO45IybV0rQm

oh wow

[sharp wind]

Oh wow

It's a really good arrangement but it sounds so busy for the older sound fonts

Definitely better in Brothership

[frozen vapor]

https://x.com/PasatempioCS/status/1861112415028404275

Shirley. COMMS OPEN (33/678) (@PasatempioCS) on X

Super Saiyan Saga

Twitter · Nov 25, 2024, 6:19 PM

pfff

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-vegito-ballin-dragon-ball-z-buu-gif-15049960142525862425

[sharp wind]

There's also someone on YouTube recontextualizing the DBZ stuff with Mario and Luigi sound effects

[loud crown]

https://youtu.be/TcGcJxQ_iqc

This is really freaking funny

[sharp wind]

Yep!

That be the guy

[loud crown]

We need more content like it

[frozen vapor]

how tf is this an hour long????????????????

[sharp wind]

He uses only Paper Mario and Trio attacks (to avoid death by boredom)

I'm assuming he's also avoiding the overworld map moves that use Mario and Luigi, too

Otherwise, he'd probably have to resort to glitches to be able to finish the game

Which isn't saying much since the 3DS M&L games are notorious for having incredible out-of-bounds sequence breaks.

Especially Paper Jam

[frozen vapor]

the video title tho, makes it seem like all he needs to do is just

[sharp wind]

"Buh-bye!"
-Mario, New Super Mario Brothers, 2006

[frozen vapor]

https://x.com/Poyomama02/status/1861161515979595798

Poyo (@Poyomama02) on X

Bowsers big bean burrito
#marioandluigi #bowsersinsidestory

Twitter · Nov 25, 2024, 9:34 PM

[haughty sage]

Peak enemy design honestly

[sharp wind]

"Hi, I'm Flowey! Flowey the flower!" :D

[haughty sage]

Btw I just unlocked ||the You Who Cannon and Timer Bros attacks in Brothership||

They’re an absolute delight

[sharp wind]

They sure are

[frozen vapor]

https://x.com/Poyomama02/status/1861202858034499642

Poyo (@Poyomama02) on X

TOUGH GUY ALERT!
#marioandluigi #bowsersinsidestory

Twitter · Nov 26, 2024, 12:18 AM

[nocturne sandal]

I did it

I finished Brothership

I am sobbing so hard

[gloomy halo]

“No Luigi…. We are-a the Brothership-a”

[nocturne sandal]

Anybody else finished it so I can sob with someone else?

[loud crown]

"Together, we are Mario & Luigi: Brothership" 🔥🔥🔥✍️

[loud crown]

Gimme like uhh a few weeks, by then you keep on sobbing, i'll catch up to sob with ya 😉

[shrewd moss]

"Did we-a do it, Mario?"
"yes Luigi, we-a really went through the Brothership.."

"Bingo, hohohoho!"

[nocturne sandal]

Took me 70h to beat the game lmao. Since day two after launch

Good luck

[loud crown]

Oh wow hahah

[gloomy halo]

“Guess there’s no more 1-Ups left Mario, this is it-a for me”

[nocturne sandal]

Correction: 75h

The end part of the game was pretty long goddamn

[loud crown]

I'm only 8-9 hours into the game and have only gotten past the 2nd boss, we're gonna be here for a while

[shrewd moss]

"but we are the super mario brothers, without-a you, i'm-a just regular mario brother"

[nocturne sandal]

Took me that long considering I beat every side quest

Would be shorter if you skip those quests

But they're worth doing

[loud crown]

Yeah i'm also gonna be doing as many side quest as i can, so far they're pretty fun

[shrewd moss]

cant wait for the next mario and luigi game: Sistership

[nocturne sandal]

I hope bowser is playable again in the future

[loud crown]

Also am i the only one who immediately undress Mario and Luigi off of their gear as soon as i saw the Challenge to beat 300 enemies without it? The first lighthouse gave me a run for my money because of it lol

[shrewd moss]

youve been putting that luigi logic to good use to pursue that challenge

[loud crown]

I only equip my stuff for bosses, and i'm gonna leave Mario and Luigi naked until that challenge is complete

[nocturne sandal]

Oh I did not knew that was a thing

[shrewd moss]

Mario and Luigi: Nippleship

dear god, what did i just type

[nocturne sandal]

But my proudest challenge is definitely "do 2000 damage or more"

[loud crown]

[nocturne sandal]

I stacked up a lot of attack points in my playthrough

[loud crown]

Yeah up until now i've been battling my battles without any gear on the brothers, it's padding out the gameplay quite a bit lol

At least it gave me an excuse to use Bros move more often and getting the challenge achievements for those too

[nocturne sandal]

That why people saying is hard?? Ngl this game would be in the middle of the toughest m&l game

However, later in the game gets hard... so if you're bad at dodging attacks you're kinda screwed

So many damn attack patterns to learn

[shrewd moss]

Brothership is roughly about as hard if not harder than Partners in Time but not as very time consuming hardness that would be Bowsers Inside Story

the original, not the remake

[nocturne sandal]

Oh BIS is hard???

My #1 is paper jam

[shrewd moss]

i guess hard may not be the best choice of words, but that game is very demanding compared to the past two games

[nocturne sandal]

Just straight up annoying

[loud crown]

There's also the option of emergency guard but i often forgot about them lol

[nocturne sandal]

That thing is useless 😒

You still get a status effect, and in Brothership is hella deadly

Especially later in the game

[loud crown]

Well, they're there if you're not confident in dodging certain attacks, but it doesn't feel right using them when i'm so used to just git gud and dodge

[loud crown]

Oh dear

[nocturne sandal]

Also, emergency guard becomes even more useless after the "battle plugs"

[loud crown]

Not sure what it is yet but i'll see for myself

-# i'm never using the guard anyway

[nocturne sandal]

Op stuff that will help you tremendously in battles

Consider it like this: a playthrough without plugs would be hard mode

[sand flower]

I guess I haven’t mentioned it here yet but I finished the game yesterday

that ending goes kinda crazy

[nocturne sandal]

Omg yes Bacon we can sob together

[gloomy halo]

Oh my god Luigi DOES die

[loud crown]

Shhhhhhhh

Spoiler, dude

[haughty sage]

Anyone know how stache maps to crit chance in Brothership?

[nocturne sandal]

Very, VERY, like endgame content spoilers for Brothership here
||https://youtu.be/aMHg8izzb8o?si=roOE-3iJWYDxjSP2 ||

||I genuinely felt chills how Nintendo casually gave us a horror / creepy moment near the end of the game when Mario & Luigi where moved to that "happy" world||

||Just the fact the castle theme starts to sound off the more times you find Reclusa is so off putting||

||Speaking of Reclusa... I never seen such a messed up Mario rpg villain like him. He confirms himself that he's taking residents of different worlds into his "happy" places where they can live their rest of their lifes stuck on a fantasy forever is so messed up. I say it's messed up bc at one point he confirms the idea is that as long as they're stuck in those fantasies made by him they will die of hunger, and he's done this multiple times before on other worlds! Just how many people he killed?? Man such a messed up villain... Nintendo has balls to give us this kind of antagonist ||

[shrewd moss]

||im morbidly curious to wonder on whats the kill count on Reclusa, and what were the worlds did Reclusa visited to create that very kill count, that is the face of a maniac||

[nocturne sandal]

||Fun little detail btw. Reclusa never admitted defeat. Gave us so many damn phases and try to bait the brothers in the end. It's crazy how brutally Mario and Luigi go ham on him and he still doesn't admit defeat. Does feel sorry or regrets, just think his thoughs and opinions are better to the end. I can see him as a Kirb final boss for sure||

||Also fun little detail of Reclusa and his gang I guess. Their appearance does resemble like technological stuff and how it's that related to his powers and whatnot, well maybe it's bc technology has giving us potential issues like "isolation" to society which would fit the descriptions of Glohm quite well||

[shrewd moss]

||Reclusa is one of those villains where he can take as much damage as anyone give him, but hes too much of a narcissist to ever admit defeat or when was beaten fair and square||

||the technology can be an obvious correlation to power like electric power, but it can also mean power in a more literal sense, power over situations, power over or be above people such as world domination power and then some||

[nocturne sandal]

||OH I've read something else too. Reclusa's name is close to being the word "recluse", which would describe to a person who lives in total solitude and avoids people. Neat little detail||

[shrewd moss]

||recluse is just a worse cousin to introverts, so no wonder Reclusa never bothers to bond with anyone, he hates people and would rather be alone, no sympathetic backstory or anything, he just really does not like to be around people, maybe teetering at hating people too||

||but thats a pretty neat detail, not to mention, recluse is also a type of spider, known as a recluse spider, which could be a small detail with the multiple arms||

[nocturne sandal]

||but that's the curious part. What is Reclusa's backstory... like, how did we get this selfish technological jester/murderer who only knows to hate bonds and cause chaos?||

[shrewd moss]

||Reclusa mustve taken notes from Jevil with his chaotic brainrot to end up like this||

[loud crown]

I just went into a boss without knowing and beaten ||Ten|| without any gear equipped

That took

Way too long

[loud crown]

Oh yeah you right
They're absurdly OP

[gilded perch]

I also wondering when they are going to release the soundtrack for it

But a guy can dream right?

[nocturne sandal]

We'll get it in the Nintendo Music, eventually

[gilded perch]

OK, thanks Kia

[crude spade]

This game was brought to you by...

[shrewd moss]

the letter L, for Luigi

https://tenor.com/view/mario-%26-luigi-mario-and-luigi-mario-and-luigi-brothership-luigi-m%26l-gif-12946289962677138546

[loud crown]

Sephiroth charging a Supernova at the Brothers until he saw this animation pops up:

He's definitely never winning now with Luigi Logic's ability to bend reality

[shrewd moss]

Sephiroth is just packing his stuff and leaving, if he had any slim small chance before, thats now out the window

[loud crown]

B-bwuhhh?!?

[shrewd moss]

[haughty sage]

Nearing the end of Brothership, I’ve now unlocked ||the conductor and the fire/ice tornado Bros. Attacks||

||Luigi’s tornado Bros. Attack feels fantastic, currently averages like 1100 damage to every enemy on the field if I get an excellent||

||Meanwhile I landed an excellent with the conductor special and it ended up getting like… 200 on each guy?||

||Is it me or the conductor bros. Attack just worse than bomb derby in every way?||

[haughty sage]

||Scratch that I didn’t aim the reticle at the end, reading moment||

[nocturne sandal]

Yeah ||if you aim correctly and time it it will do at least 2000 damage to one enemy. Very good against the remaining bosses||

[haughty sage]

Alright I can finally join the Beat Brothership club

Performance issues aside that was a delightful game, IGN journalists misinforming once again

[nocturne sandal]

Hell yeah we can sob together

[sharp wind]

I need to finish this game already so I can join the discussion lmao

[loud crown]

Saaame

[loud crown]

Snoutlet is never beating the pig allegation istg

[haughty sage]

No but you see the joke is funny because Snoutlet looks and operates like a pig but is actually not a pig and whenever someone calls him a pig he says he’s not a pig

You are permitted to laugh now

[nocturne sandal]

It's cute when he says "oink oink" everytime you clear an island

[haughty sage]

This is true

[loud crown]

He also made pig puns himself !!! He's feeding into it !!!

[nocturne sandal]

"Try to save your bacon"

Love him

[haughty sage]

Oh also I was doing the main story, cleared ||all the grampy turnips from all the islands before going to the Soli-tree, saw that I still had 9 to go and went “they probably appear as part of the post game”||

||I didn’t think there would be a room with 8 of the things in the Soli-Tree lol||

[loud crown]

Aaaaaaa finallyyyy

The brothers can finally put some clothes on

Feels good to 2-shots regular enemies and not get 2-shotted back now

[haughty sage]

Lmao why is that a challenge?

[loud crown]

Idk

[haughty sage]

That’s so many too

[nocturne sandal]

Not even worth the reward lmao

You can get a last ditch glove later on

[haughty sage]

I need to check how far the speedrun has developed and if they’ve found any major glitches yet

[loud crown]

Yeah, but my completionist ass told me to undress the moment i saw that challenge when i opened the menu for the first time

The extra difficulty is nice, though 300 enemies is a bit much and it pads out from mid game onwards quite a bit, would be nicer if it's just 200

A good way to grind out that challenge is to whale on the small fries from the early islands but my stubborn self just likes to advance the story with it
The enemies over ||MerryGo Island|| took forever to kill as a result

[loud crown]

I didn't know she was chill like that

[haughty sage]

Lmao yeah

[gloomy halo]

https://tenor.com/view/i-volunteer-as-tribute-pick-me-choose-me-take-me-ill-do-it-gif-15954628

[shrewd moss]

you know maybe Viridi was not far off with that guess after all

[loud crown]

🗣️🗣️🗣️
https://youtu.be/ej5Do0e_aTI

[nocturne sandal]

https://twitter.com/NinEverything/status/1864314768024326218

Nintendo Everything (@NinEverything) on X

Mario & Luigi: Brothership devs initially made an “edgier, more rugged Mario” https://t.co/ljukXApXK8

Twitter · Dec 4, 2024, 2:24 PM

https://twitter.com/NinEverything/status/1864317001193410845

Nintendo Everything (@NinEverything) on X

Mario & Luigi: Brothership's Connie initially had human-like design https://t.co/aa9oYRjk4D

Twitter · Dec 4, 2024, 2:33 PM

[loud crown]

Ayo??? That's kinda fire !!!

[nocturne sandal]

IKR!?

I'm so in love with these Connie designs

[loud crown]

I mean the Connie as we have right now is still human-like enough

[nocturne sandal]

Maybe they meant the species

[loud crown]

But these are still pretty nice to see

[nocturne sandal]

OMG LOOK AT HIM

My god so good

[loud crown]

This gives off Rotom appliances vibe lol

[nocturne sandal]

New wallpaper just dropped

[gloomy mica]

love this style

[gloomy mica]

the right design looks like a raincoat seeing from the coat + boots

[loud crown]

Aaaa i love it when they experiment around with the brothers' designs, the right one looks so freaking nice

[shrewd moss]

the art pieces of having Mario and Luigi's clothes look a bit torn and worn out looks cool

the three connie designs look so interesting, and what i like is that when i see all three designs side by side, they all look like siblings of each other

[sharp wind]

First one is Sonic character design and I'm here for it

[edgy wind]

So I was playing some more Brothership and I encountered a small glitch (spoilers for a Bros. Move and current/sea)

[haughty sage]

Oh that’s neat

[sharp wind]

Can't believe you're already at this part!
I really gotta finish the game lmao

Also, sad that it isn't a move

Would've been cool

[haughty sage]

End of game spoilers ||………………………..How do we tell ‘em?……………………………….…..||

[crude spade]

I started playing M&L Brothership fairly recently and I do have to agree with everyone that Luigi's commands being locked to the A button during battles throws me off. I had to miss some Luigi moves from time to time because I pressed the wrong button. Hopefully I'll get used to that as I progress further into the game

Other than that and me finding it weird to talk to NPCs whose faces look like power outlets, the game's looking fantastic

[nocturne sandal]

Yeye you'll get use to it

The game is long enough for you to get the hang of it anyway

[gilded perch]

I started Mario and Luigi Brothership last week. Well It’s amazing from what can Tell

[haughty sage]

Hope you like it, I personally had a blast

[sharp wind]

Where do we think Brothership sits on the difficulty scale?

I haven't played Dream Team but the rest of the games are mildly challenging

I think Brothership is the hardest by far but I'm curious what you guys think

[crude spade]

I only played Brothership for like 3 hours, but I haven't had much difficulty winning battles even though last time I played M&L was a very, VERY long time ago

I did have to use mushrooms every so often because I was either too early or too late in my inputs, or I pressed the wrong button with Luigi, but you get a lot of coins to buy as many mushrooms as you need, so it's not a problem here

[gloomy halo]

Dream team definitely ramps up in difficulty by the end imo

The bowser corps and kamek fights come to mind

Out of all but PiT and BS I think paper jam is the hardest just because there’s a bigger learning curve to boss attacks?

Idk maybe I’m bad but you have to be a lot more precise defending and you have to manage defending with all 3 bros

and how bosses move like 4 times until you can attack like plz

[nocturne sandal]

It's definitely in the top 3 for me

[loud crown]

How is it that i'm simping for Technikki now...?

[nocturne sandal]

That wrong?

[loud crown]

Well, i guess not really

I just like her vibe and design :)

[nocturne sandal]

She is cool

Because remember

She is a genius

[frozen vapor]

you are not alone

[frozen vapor]

nah like fr she kinda bad tho

i said something about character design in #message-of-the-day and she perfectly lands in that category too

[loud crown]

Uh huh uh huh!

[edgy wind]

I have finally finished Brothership and man, what a game it was

I thoroughly enjoyed it

[sharp wind]

You finished it before me

Nice

I just got to the obligatory 'Mario and Luigi are separated' section.

[frozen vapor]

oh pfffffffff

[sharp wind]

Paper Jam reference ahoy!

[loud crown]

THEY BROUGHT BACK ||SHARKBONE FROM SUPERSTAR SAGA?!||

AND THEY'RE CRACKED ASF?!?

Omagad...

I adore ||Sharkbone||'s design and i'm pleasantly surprised that niche little enemy made a return, more threatening than ever

[loud crown]

This is horrifying

[haughty sage]

They’ll be fine… probably

[loud crown]

Surely

[haughty sage]

They are killable btw, the sharkbones

But they don’t ever lose the ability to one shot you as far as I’m aware

[frozen vapor]

sigh

hitboxes

[loud crown]

Huuuh

Even if you came back to it at a significantly higher level?

Are their attack stat that cracked?

[shy nest]

It is blocked due to scripted events I believe

[loud crown]

Huh

I am very curious as to what i can get if i defeats them

[shy nest]

||https://youtu.be/L-_uiHyA31Y?si=4c-SP-ihod9lvyKC|| @loud crown

[loud crown]

:o

[frozen vapor]

i was gon say i killed one today but this the horde we talkin about

[shy nest]

If it's not the horde, than yeah, they probably appear elsewhere (I haven't played much further myself)

[loud crown]

This is fascinating

[haughty sage]

That thing was always finicky

[frozen vapor]

as far as im aware ||they only in the desert area but they are lvl 40||

[shy nest]

The horde ain't beatable though

[frozen vapor]

||they are beatable but ya gotta be good at dodging/countering their attacks and be good with super strong bros moves||

Talkin bout the solo ones btw

[haughty sage]

The dodging is the harder part

[shy nest]

||I mean in the sense, you still drown in the sand||

[haughty sage]

Usually you only end up actually killing 1-2 iirc

They like to flee battle

[frozen vapor]

I hate that one attack where ||they do like bitting signals to indicate the amount of times the earth shakes and when you need to jump to dodge them.||

||they bite 2 times but then the earth shakes like 3 times||

[haughty sage]

||I just gave up on that because it felt like an inconsistent indication||

||Just started reacting to when the earth stops shaking.||

[frozen vapor]

Id say just equip the ||not droppin plug||

[haughty sage]

I don’t think I had that at the time I did it

||Come to think of it I don’t think I ever unlocked all the plugs||

[frozen vapor]

used them and it saved my life

[haughty sage]

||Auto 1-Up and Easy Counters covered me||

Granted it still took several tries

[frozen vapor]

so did i

[frozen vapor]

Also those two yea

I got my first game over cus of them lol

[haughty sage]

I want to say my first game over was to ||the Glohm plant superboss||

But I was 9 levels under for that

[frozen vapor]

Unironically i beated him first try despite being super underleveled

Mario was lvl 26

[haughty sage]

You’re just goated

[frozen vapor]

While the requirement is being around or above lvl 33

[frozen vapor]

i do be like that sometimes yea

[haughty sage]

||I think the only superboss I beat first try was the third one||

[frozen vapor]

havent done them yet, i need to uuuuuh progress thru da story

[loud crown]

My personalized copy of the game had the guy fell and dies a brutal death, there was blood everywhere. It was so graphic i had to take a moment off of my game 😰

Luigi then took note

[frozen vapor]

(do bones have blood inside them?)

[haughty sage]

Sounds like a creepypasta

Brothership.exe

[loud crown]

||NAAAAH Luigi actually falls to his death by the Sharkbones if you sunked to the sand while he's left hanging on the tree 💀||

Everytime you fail a new timeline opened up and you're taken to it

[frozen vapor]

well

Well

WELL

[nocturne sandal]

Pfffffff

I never had that issue

[edgy wind]

BREAKING: An early lost trailer for Paper Mario Sticker Star has been found after 14 years
https://youtu.be/hKdcu5g0lfc?si=O4mvPtRjbZETIggN

[frozen vapor]

i just did the ||2nd lighthouse boss refight||

underleveled again

[shrewd moss]

what could have been, or atleast it would have been somewhat less frustrating than the final product atleast

but eh, its good to see this finally

[loud crown]

Having a Chain Chomp partner is so coooool tho!

[shrewd moss]

yea true, it is really neat to see in action, even in this trailer

[frozen vapor]

https://youtu.be/eQr7awL1CHA?si=nsMaJsVuh2RvKjCm

[sharp wind]

I haven't played SPM but this feels like something that would happen anyway

[sharp wind]

Mario and Luigi Brothership spoilers:
Nintendo is fully embracing the ||"copy of this game is personalized" meme in Brothership lmao||

||I genuinely can't believe it's official now||

[sharp wind]

Brothership has the most insane ending either

Felt like my heart stopped for a second during the final fight

Honestly, this is so close to Inside Story I don't know which is better anymore

[haughty sage]

The final fight is so good

[crude spade]

Hey, does anyone have any tips on which stats I should prioritize for Mario and Luigi when they reach certain levels?

[sharp wind]

Brothership has become my favorite Mario and Luigi game

It's settled

This game is top tier in so many departments

[sharp wind]

Tbh, I don't think it matters too much if you're using gear

[crude spade]

Ok

[sharp wind]

Although, I heard that picking luck as the level up bonus leads to a funny Crit strat

Where basically every other hit is a crit

Pretty neat

[crude spade]

I did choose to level up the Stache stat which made for some cool crit (reminds me of Fire Emblem)

But do I have to balance the stats with gear/gloves/level bonuses or is there another strat? I remember reading Mario and Luigi have their strengths and weaknesses, but Idk how I can use them to my advantage

[gloomy halo]

There’s a rank level up in paper jam that doubles the damage of lucky hits

Luigi stonks

[nocturne sandal]

It may or may not matter, but I prioritize their best stats. Mario is great with Power, BP and Speed. Luigi is best with HP, Defense and Stache (Luck)

Every now and then you get beans 🫘, so use the respective beans according to the strength or weakness. Like for example if you want Mario to always deal as much as damage as possible then use the power beans on him. Or you can balance out the stats with each bro, then use the power beans so Luigi can catch up to Mario. However Mario should always have MORE power than Luigi.

[loud crown]

I do side quests for the lore

||brother is caught simping big times, you know it's bad when Mario and Luigi themselves is visibly disgusted at your questionable acts. I wouldn't imagining myself coming back after that one||

The facial expressions in this game is absolutely incredible

[crude spade]

I see. So I gotta make Mario as offensive and Luigi as defensive as possible

[nocturne sandal]

Pretty much

Also according to the specials of Brothership Mario is good against bosses and Luigi against enemies. If you wanna rush batting enemies, you can always use a special that damages all enemies, and Luigi has lots of them

Of course Mario has, but if you're low of syrups then save his specials for bosses

Mario's damage output is insane if you buff him pretty good

You can do 2k damage later in the game

[crude spade]

I see. I was battling ||Ten|| for the first time earlier and that boss did summon common enemies. So I guess in that type of scenario, I'd have Mario focus on the boss, while Luigi uses BP on those common enemies. Is that correct?

[nocturne sandal]

Yeah that works well

Anything else to know, I believe the thunder special hits multiple times, and it's a Luigi special, so boosting Stache is pretty good because multiple attacks increases chance of Luck.

In short, do more damage

[crude spade]

Oh, I didn't know that Luck increases with multiple attacks

[nocturne sandal]

Yeah, because it's the Luck chance times the amount of attacks you do

It's more easy to get Lucky in jump attacks because it hits the enemies twice, rather than the hammer.

The thunder specials hits all enemies 3 times, therefore more chances to get Luck

[crude spade]

I see

Well, thanks for the tips! Will definitely remember those as difficulty increases

[nocturne sandal]

It's my pleasure

[nocturne sandal]

||Such a weird part lmao||

[sharp wind]

I think Luigi has one single target bros move.
That one is absolutely worth using on bosses, its damage is on par with Mario's

[nocturne sandal]

Well I did specify that Luigi has lots, but never said he doesn't have a "one target" special lol

Plus, I didn't want to spoiler Rock

[sharp wind]

True

It's kinda hard to talk about something while being intentionally vague

[nocturne sandal]

Yeah

[sharp wind]

Even so, they took an interesting approach with the moves in this game

[nocturne sandal]

Unless they don't care

[sharp wind]

Superstar Saga had separate moves for each bro like this too

[nocturne sandal]

Dream Team also did, and Paper Jam I believe

And maybe BiS?

I need to check

Nope nvm BiS

[sharp wind]

Nah, BiS and PiT didn't do it

But the others did

I like how the Bros moves keep scaling in intensity every single game

The stuff they get up to is downright diabolical in the later entries

[nocturne sandal]

As if... difficulty?

[sharp wind]

Difficulty and in how crazy it gets

[nocturne sandal]

Ah

[sharp wind]

We went from jumping and hammers to becoming giants in Paper Jam

[nocturne sandal]

Well I guess that's true I mean ||on this one they got to space, stop time, invoke a storm, they become a giant ball, etc.||

Bros are gods in this series

[frozen vapor]

Idk why but i have both as the opposite for me

[sharp wind]

This last one is actually insane.
||Tbh, I feel like the orbital strike is the absolute hardest bros move in the entire series. I actually ended up using auto excellent just to get it outside of practice||

[frozen vapor]

Tbh in all M&L games Mario is the damage focussed one while Luigi is the one that is willing to tank more hits

[sharp wind]

Not in Superstar Saga they aren't

All level ups go into attack and watch what happens

[frozen vapor]

it was like that in Bowsers Inside story and it still is now, but for some reason i have Luigi being super omega busted like he ends the fights pretty quickly

[nocturne sandal]

I mean... that's when you can give bonus points to a stat

[sharp wind]

Yeah

[frozen vapor]

While also having more HP than the red guy

[sharp wind]

I don't know why this stopped when we got to Dream Team

[sharp wind]

Luigi with an attack build is goated, insane damage output

[nocturne sandal]

But still a level up benefits Luigi with more HP, Defense and Stache automatically

[frozen vapor]

i got like 1405 damage from the Jump Helmet when ||fighting Glohm Bowser||

[sharp wind]

Yeah, you can use the level ups to counterbalance their stats

[nocturne sandal]

Which is better ngl

[sharp wind]

Usually yeah

Otherwise Mario dies and Luigi can't really make up for it

[frozen vapor]

Saved from ||whatever the last thing was that Bowser was planning on doing||

[nocturne sandal]

Giving more damage to both bros manually every level up was the best play

Until they removed it

[sharp wind]

It genuinely was

You don't need to heal if the bosses don't have the HP left to hit you

[nocturne sandal]

To this regard btw, there's nothing wrong with it. It's usually the game that tells you Luigi doesn't benefit Power, bc at the start of the game, he'll have less power than Mario. Same for BP and Speed.

[sharp wind]

Yeah, all the Mario and Luigi games are like that

But you can build them in power anyway and they'll both pop off

[frozen vapor]

i am seeing Chuggaconroy's BiS lets play while playing Brothership and im honestly quite shocked by how he is able to make the Bros balanced in every stat while still doing the typical all increases go to POW or attack

i was also shocked how he 1 shot Junker

[sharp wind]

Yeah, you can do that when everything goes into attack

[frozen vapor]

i hated that fight as a kid cus of how hard it was for me

[nocturne sandal]

Mario & Luigi games have to be some of most balanced game stats in a rpg I've ever played, because no matter what you decide, as long as you lvl up to match the enemies and bosses, you'll fine

[sharp wind]

Speaking of that, is it just me or do the levels REALLY matter in Brothership?

[nocturne sandal]

There's rare chances like superstar saga's final boss, where you need more Speed or you're probably screwed

[sharp wind]

I feel like being underleveled in this game is way more of a punishment

[frozen vapor]

learned that the hard way

[nocturne sandal]

I would say yes... a bit. Gear and Plugs can help you out tho

[sharp wind]

Iirc, they will sometimes use the laserbeam attack instead of the spinning hands one.

[frozen vapor]

||beating the 2nd Lighthouse boss refight with both brothers underleveled took me nearly 2 hours||

[sharp wind]

2 hours what

[nocturne sandal]

I always recommend beating every enemy you see tbh

[sharp wind]

How underleveled were you?

[frozen vapor]

somewhere around lvl 34-35

[sharp wind]

Huh

[loud crown]

Man i miss the custom stat bonus for everytime you levels up

[nocturne sandal]

Game recommend's to be level 35 I believe for that quest

[frozen vapor]

i did it tho

[nocturne sandal]

Just comeback later. That quest won't dissappear Osha

There's more of them coming later

[frozen vapor]

i said i did it tho

[sharp wind]

I thought it did disappear

OH

I didn't realize this was oshawott

[frozen vapor]

I am Balatro

[sharp wind]

Hi 👋

[nocturne sandal]

Lmao

[sharp wind]

They're trying to avoid the infamous all attack build

[loud crown]

Actually true lol

[frozen vapor]

i beat the boss anyways btw which i got lotta exp for it

so it was worth the 2 hours wasted

[nocturne sandal]

When game tells you the quest will disappear if you progress then yes do that asap

But if they game doesn't tell you then it's there forever

[sharp wind]

Ah

[nocturne sandal]

Also Osha, ||if you get another rerun of another boss||, make sure to read the goal of that quest. Usually tells you the recommended level.

[sharp wind]

In addition to that, ||they should be lvl 34, 43, 48||

[nocturne sandal]

Jay: here's the levels so you don't have to do what Kia said

[sharp wind]

Who needs to read what the game says?

You know, I gave up pretty early on but I'm gonna try the gearless run again.

The enemies were so much higher level than me that I basically died in two hits from everything (and one hit from bosses), so I quit.

[nocturne sandal]

I never did that and never will most likely

Doesn't sound like a fun experience so it's not worth for me

[sharp wind]

Brothership is the hardest game in the series, so it's no surprise.

[sharp wind]

I got the idea from ||the achievement that gives you an award for beating 300 enemies with no gear||

But it's no easy task, either way

[nocturne sandal]

And you'll get like a few beans? Naaaah. I beat the game just fine

[loud crown]

https://youtu.be/zDgpjdSzoF4

I want Luigi Logic to be the next big meme

[frozen vapor]

Luigi keeps leveling up constantly

Meanwhile my Mario is stuck in underleveled limbo

[nocturne sandal]

You could use a +exp accessory

Mario will catch up eventually

[loud crown]

That's what i did when i ||sent Luigi to get kidnapped instead of Peach for that one spy mission||

Which is still awesome that you can choose how the story plays out like that

[frozen vapor]

I did the same lol

[loud crown]

||It's simply more entertaining that way and i'm guessing most people did the same, it's also within my assumption that Luigi can handle things on his own and leaving Mario alone by himself for a time provides a good challenge that i do look forward to||

||Though it was pretty short-lived and i'm a little disappointed that the Luigi section didn't provides anything too meaningful, not even one solo battle for the guy||

[haughty sage]

My Mario ended up higher level than my Luigi for most of the game as a result

He’d caught up and surpassed by the end though

[loud crown]

Real

[gloomy halo]

Also ninten everything about the bros stats applies to the whole series

Bros attacks are kinda just whatever you prefer/what is most suitable

[crude spade]

Okay

Tbf, last time I played the M&L was a very long time ago

[crude spade]

Just got to the point in the game where ||you send Peach or Luigi to get kidnapped. Is there any advantage in choosing one or the other? What did y'all pick?||

[nocturne sandal]

||If your Mario is behind in xp compared to Luigi, send Luigi so Mario catches up with him. If you have both bros pretty balanced lvls without having one flag higher than the other, then send Peach||

[crude spade]

Ok

||Both Mario and Luigi were about the same level for their flags until I did an islet full of enemies. Mario died in a battle and only Luigi received EXP, making Mario fall behind. I guess I can send Luigi||

[loud crown]

||sending Luigi in is just funnier overall||

||though i do feel kinda bad from how scared my boy looks throughout all of it||

[frozen vapor]

Here i thought that ||i was gonna get the final 2 bros attacks and fight Reclusa but i gotta do a massive scavenger hunt for the remaining survivors to break the barrier||

[sharp wind]

||Yep, this game doesn't let you miss the most powerful and coolest Bros moves. Unlike BIS and (I'm assuming) Dream Team||

[frozen vapor]

its that i was ||expecting to finally get them but i still need to do alot of things apparently||

[loud crown]

https://youtu.be/S4ERllISyIc

Informative video

I feel like Luigi's voicelines in Brothership are way too short

[frozen vapor]

Ngl my problem with brothership is how it seems to be not alot of voice lines

like the beginning literally uses like 2 voicelines like 10 to 12 times

and its like "did they not tell Kevin to do more MARIO and LUIGI voicelines???"

[nocturne sandal]

Did the previous M&Ls had that many?

Im pretty sure the previous games also reused voicelines a lot too

[sharp wind]

Yes, but some were context-sensitive and only used once.

It made for amazing conversations between the bros

[frozen vapor]

https://youtu.be/3lJTnE7VCKs?si=G1rP7fu-VwfXKheN

Yea i admit the one thing that the 3DS remake got right was this fight

Solely cus of the new music

I said it in the comments but ill say it again

I will always never forget how in this game the Dark Star is being told and known for being the most evil and powerful being capable of doing unimaginable things with his super strong and dangerous dark powers

and yet i was able to beat him on my first try when i fought it for the first time

Pure comedy but hey, goes to show just how OP M&L are

[gloomy halo]

He complimented the 3DS version multiple times this video guys I think he’s warming up to it

[frozen vapor]

doubt but we will see

[gloomy halo]

I think he’ll also play dark fawful on the 3DS

[frozen vapor]

Proly yea

[loud crown]

That, too

[formal merlin]

so how is brothership? does it hold up to the rest of the series?

[nocturne sandal]

Yeaaaaah...

Some control settings are different, but that's about it for me

[sharp wind]

Yeah, Brothership definitely holds up to the rest of the series

[formal merlin]

nice to hear

[loud crown]

I thoroughly really enjoyed it so far. While some things are different and this sort of feels like a soft reboot of the series, it still holds up the charm of what the previous entries has to offer. I'm confident that this series will continue to spawn new titles in the future and improve upon it

[formal merlin]

very very cool

i'll have to pick the game up at some point

ive been saying that with a lot of nintendo games lately lol

basically a backlog of major nintendo games since tears of the kingdom has been piling up for me that i wanna buy someday but i just keep not doing that lol

[nocturne sandal]

I get it

[loud crown]

Understandable

God i've spent 22 hours in Brothership already and i'm only halfway through lol

[nocturne sandal]

Yeah I beat my game after uhhhh 75 hours lol

[frozen vapor]

Close to completing it all in one playthough, imma write a super lenghty review after im done with it

[sharp wind]

Took me about 50 hours to finish mine the first time around.

[loud crown]

This is a longer game than i expected

Not that i complain

[frozen vapor]

I think its proly longer than Dream Team

[frozen vapor]

Im almost done

Just need to beat the final boss and get a missing Grampy Turnip

https://tenor.com/view/snoutlet-gif-13134735848017337010

[loud crown]

The name Willma sounds like a set-up for a deez nuts joke

[gloomy halo]

I have finallt beat paper jam

All I’m missing is PiT but….

man

Mfw bros attacks are all variations of pressing A B X Y

Idk if should get Brothership because there are a lot of games I need to finish

[sharp wind]

Brothership is one of the best in the series, imo

[gloomy halo]

Ok while paper jam credits are playing ill give my thoughts

Ok so battle gameplay rocks????

[sharp wind]

Definitely better than Paper Jam and the remakes

[gloomy halo]

Easily the best bros attacks we’ve gotten

I haven’t seen brothership’s one’s except that I know bomb derby returns

[sharp wind]

You're in for a real treat for that game

[gloomy halo]

And battle cards are far more dynamic than badges which are fine but you basically get a different strategy every battle

But my biggest problem is it has to much flab?

Dream team’s issue was pacing but it never really felt like “why am I doing this now”

Paper jam has so many minigames that most of the time you don’t want to do

I had to take long breaks playing this game

I’ll check when I first started but it was likely start of this year?

[sharp wind]

Yeah, sounds about right

The game is so spontaneous that stuff just happens

[gloomy halo]

Paper craft battles are fine I didn’t mind them

[sharp wind]

Also, I'm surprised you didn't mention the ABSURD Luigi slander

[gloomy halo]

I think it’s funny you can juts recharge your toad energy in a boss fight

[gloomy halo]

They mentioned the year of Luigi so it cancels out

[sharp wind]

Not true

[gloomy halo]

Paper Luigi erasure

[sharp wind]

There was way too much Luigi hate

Yeah, completely unplayable

[gloomy halo]

Real

Bosses felt especially tough this game imo

[sharp wind]

Yeah, they are

[gloomy halo]

Added difficulty of controlling third member and generally bosses did more stuff

WHAT

PAPER LUIGI

THIS IS WHERE YOUVE BEEN

I’ve never had a backlog like this before but also damn Brothership is really good so 😭

To give an idea I have like 5 PS games including ones I’m playing

And then on switch 2 assassins creed collections and xenoblade chronicles

[loud crown]

Super underrated series (or channel as a whole). The mix between actual gameplay and parody skits with it's animations and great editing makes this a captivating watch, i'm surprised it has no more than just around 1-2k views
https://youtu.be/8oOwoLZP0Ik

[sharp wind]

I just discovered this guy recently!

Super underrated

[loud crown]

Yeah!!

[frozen vapor]

I completed Brothership today. Go ahead and do your i aint readin allat or if you care then prepare to read somethings. (semi Spoiler Free review btw)

Right of the bat i personally think that for a welcome back of a series that has been dormant for 5 years, i think this is a really good attempt. Im glad that they went all with this games' creativity and style and concepts. Unfortunately it seems like this game is perhaps the one game in this series where it sort of feels like they bit more than they can chew? Or that it needed a bit more time in the oven. What i mean is that, this game definitely feels rushed in some aspects and i dont think is with the fact that the Switch is being the typical underpowered system that people are flacking it for. Especially near the end of this game, the frames drop extremely harshly, with alot of things happening due to spoiler reasons. But it legit became somewhat unplayable and it was kind of messing up my eyes a little bit.

In fact i think thats like the super biggest issue i have with this game, the slowdown and lag genuinely had me struggling in alot of moments mainly the combat. I was like looking at all of the footage i was able to record of this game, and i pretty much had moments where i released the button to counter an attack (this happened almost all the time with Luigi for some reason), i literally spot the animation of Luigi jumping or swinging his hammer frame by frame, it genuinely looks like he is gonna counter it but instead i get damaged. And legit i was frustrated because of this, i legit had moments where i was legit doing the ''when you wanna break something but everything around is expensive, so you just dance the rage away'' meme everything Luigi died for times i thought it wasnt my fault. Now you can throw the typical skill issue claims on me but, again ive constantly played the other games in the series and each time i came back to them the failed counters felt like they were my actual fault.

One thing about the game that was mentioned in the IGN review that I kinda agree with but also didn't, was the fact that it was too ‘’handholding’’. Now to give the reviewer the benefit of the doubt i think that there do come moments where i feel like i didn't need Snoutlet to tell me what i needed to do, i could have handled it myself but i don't think that this game has the tutorial insanity that was Dream Team. That game was like constantly telling me how to do things every second and they genuinely made the game a whole lot more bloated than it needed to (probably because of the lack of fast forwarding). But this game? I have to disagree with IGN in terms of the hand holding. The one thing that I could say is that this game has a thing that i don't like about a lot of RPGs where they over-explain something but then they leave you completely in the dark in some moments, and even as far as not showing a little marker to tell me where to go next.

I'm gonna come back to more gameplay issues later, but i wanna talk about the story now. Without getting into spoilers i think this story is really good, aside from some standard generic themes or cliches that are overused and have been done better in some games, they did some good things with them and it leaves you satisfying. But OH MY GOODNESS, this game is super bloated. A lot of moments where I feel like they should've trimmed out some parts, and I would've been more satisfied with said trimming. (somewhat spoiler warning for this next part) ||Around the time I activated the 2nd lighthouse and was doing all of the story missions to activate the 3rd one. I seriously felt like I was in a coma with a lot of the ‘’go here, hear the characters say this, go this place next, do this, come back and hear the character retell the things that you just did.|| By the time Bowser showed up, and was doing his shenanigans it felt like I finally woke up and it got exciting once again. But then the game got a bit more bloated once again by the time I was getting to the finale.

You can tell that despite me playing A LOT of them, my biggest complaint with pretty much every RPG ever is how they just tend to be bloated for the sake of padding game runtime. And i seriously don't really understand why RPG game devs do this, i understand if you wanna go full on explain every beat that you wrote for the story. But to me if the story isn't interesting or isn't being told in a unique way, i'm not really gonna bother trying to get to the end ASAP, let alone do a single side quest. That's honestly why I was able to enjoy the Mario RPG remake. I was genuinely satisfied and also surprised by how they were able to make a really good RPG game with balanced mechanics and tell a story that normally would be like 20 to 30 hours, and it was instead told in less than 15 hours. And the M&L games are some of my favorite RPG games because they also were able to tell really compelling and funny stories in around 15-25 hours.

With all that aside, at least the characters and their drama and personalities kept me invested. Not gonna lie, they can replace Starlow with Snoutlet in future entries and I would be very happy with that hypothetical change. He is really funny and serves a pretty necessary role in the story and in gameplay. Connie is cute, she has an understandable struggle and is also likeable. I really like some of the side characters cus they are honestly pretty funny in some scenes. Technikki is kinda bad ngl, i genuinely thought that i was gonna be super annoyed by the Extension Corps but in all honesty they are really funny characters who you really grow with near the end. And lastly (SPOILER ALERT) ||Reclusa is perhaps one of the best villains in all of the Mario RPG games, and that's saying SO MUCH. He has a genuinely messed up ideology and he isn't afraid to show how far he can go with his ideals and it's honestly pretty f&*ked up. By the end he really makes you wanna shatter his TV face to smithereens with a hammer.||

Back to gameplay, do I honestly have a bit of an issue with the combat? In the sense that you genuinely don't really feel like you are stronger than the enemies the more you progress, and even with the addition of later bros. attacks and more battle plug slots and more plugs with unique effects. The enemies still felt like legit damage sponges that still were constantly taunting me with little dots of HP left in their healthbars. Maybe the lack of the stat increase roulette is the reason why battles take longer than they should, even with leveling up. But I genuinely just wish they could have done something to make the battles last less than they already are. I mentioned the Bros. attacks, they are great but (small spoilers ahead) ||honestly I wish they did more original ones instead of bringing some old ones back, or if they did bring old ones back i personally would have gone for some from DT and PJ. cuz those games have some cool Bros. attacks. Like at the very near end of the game, the Yoo-Hoo Cannon from BiS feels pretty useless and I wish they replaced it with the Star Rocket or the Mega Thwonk. But the final 2 moves are genuinely satisfying to pull off (although a bit difficult to do but that makes sense cus it's the near end of the game). They feel powerful, which is what they should do.||

Luigi logic is really funny and really awesome, hot take but I honestly prefer this Luigi focussed gameplay mechanic a whole lot more than alot of the stuff you do with him in Dream Team. There are moments where he does feel like an NPC that's struggling at pulling something that he should honestly resolve pretty easily and quickly but when he uses his brain cells, it's really satisfying and makes an already recognizable character in gaming a lot more charming and iconic. I remember seeing the trailers and marketing for this game and how Luigi logic was gonna be a thing in bosses and I was so gosh darn excited for that. Luigi being able to affect the tide of battle in one way shape or form, that's so cool and hype. While again, they bit more than they could chew with this, what I got was enough to make me happy.

-# … If it wasn't for the fact that some inputs are more delayed cus of the fricking lag

In conclusion, I really had a fun time with this game but I genuinely was really bored, and somewhat worried around the middle chunk of the game, both gameplay and story wise. I was basically going for 100% completion all in one save file, so I guess that's a big attribute but. Seriously the middle/2nd act of this game is prolly the reason I'll prolly replay it less than the other games in this series in the future. In my opinion, this game is 3rd place, not as great as Superstar Saga and Bowser's Inside story but it's definitely better than Partners in Time and the 3DS original titles.

In my numbers/star scoring system I would give it like 3.5-4 out of 5. I'd say this is a good game for newcomers of the series, I just really wish that Nintendo doesn't rush the next one because I'm certain that this game is selling well and that it's going to get a sequel in the future.

[frozen vapor]

my one pitch to Nintendo for the next in the series

is pls

PLEASE NINTENDO, bring them into the franchise

[loud crown]

Holy shit

Yeah nah lmao

[nocturne sandal]

You're right, I ain't reading shit lol

Just one question @frozen vapor
Did you enjoy it?

[frozen vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/read-gif-25879491

[nocturne sandal]

Just say yes or no

Good

[frozen vapor]

Ill repeat what i said in this part.

Its not as great as Superstar Saga or Bowsers Inside Story but its better than Paper Jam, Dream Team and Partners in Time

3rd best game in the series

[nocturne sandal]

Wow... better than Dream Team

That's an opinion to stand by lol

[shy nest]

Is this spoiler free?

[loud crown]

Well, no, but the progress of the gameplay does jump pretty fast and a lot of the content were lefted out, it's mostly just their highlights

But do come revisit it after you're done with the game or is at a late enough point to where you can watch the earlier game content of the video tho! It's a fun watch

[shy nest]

I actually quit playing due to lack of time around the 2nd lighthouse. The game feels even more boring and bloated than how I remember previous installments. THe story progresses extremely slow imo and backtracking to previous islands is a bit annoying when you've been there like thrice. And then there's the enemies that just run after you... Can't avoid them very often.. It just all built up for me to say the game kinda is not what I wanted it to be. Even Dream Team with it's long tutorials at least introduced new areas more frequently and had some unique bits during it all... If I continue sometime soonish maybe my take will change. But starting out slow and remaining slow kinda ruins it for me...

I dare to say I had about as much fun with Paper Jam. Since the jokes hit better imo...

[loud crown]

If you're at the 2nd lighthouse already then that video (aswell as 2nd and probably 3rd too) is spoiler free for ya then lol

[loud crown]

Found my 2nd favourite track in the game so far (1st is still Twistee Island)
https://youtu.be/7bpXQvlUplQ

It's so freaking gorgeous

It's too good for just an Islet theme 😭

[frozen vapor]

Oh yea i also forgot to mention the backtracking

Yea it really bloats the game alot, even with fast travel

[sharp wind]

Backtracking seems to be a pretty common L for the M&L Series as a whole

BIS and PiT might just be the best in these cases, since they're pretty linear and have extremely fast fast travel points.

[frozen vapor]

Yea

Yo shoutout to Bowsers ear

Just casually having alot of pipes that can take you to his castle

[sharp wind]

No wonder everything he hears goes in one way and out the other...

[frozen vapor]

https://youtu.be/BMfvjbEZwhE?si=6UzwfLKU21cKyRmu

[gloomy halo]

Alright

I caved

I bought Brothership

Traded in Yoshi’s crafted world because I don’t remember when the hell was the last time I played it

Let’s see if IGN was correct about its rating

[gloomy halo]

Why does collecting coins from blocks have the cannon sound effect

minor thing aside oh my GOD this battle theme

I don’t know how anyone would get tired of this

Quite weird to have everything sped up

Like basic jumping you immediately go into it

And enemies teleport to the middle to attack instead of from where they’re standing

Maybe I’m more used to the 3DS versions where they pause to show who is being targeted on the enemy phase

Hm this is the Luigi AI ive heard a lot about

He’s not following Mario statically

Action commands seem very forgiving though

NOOOOOOO NO ROULETTE

COME ONNNN

[sharp wind]

I hate that the 3DS games do that

Don't baby us!

We can figure it out, it's not that hard

[sharp wind]

Roulette was massacred, we're back to the Paper Jam system where we pick a permanent stat upgrade.

[gloomy halo]

On rank ups you mean?

[gloomy halo]

I mean it’s not a big deal tbh

In paper jam they needed that

[loud crown]

Yooo welcome to peak gaming, puffboi

[gloomy halo]

I already played dream team snips

[loud crown]

So... ||Mario's first instinct upon seeing a hoard of helpless Goombas on the Slippenglide Island, is to choose violence and hammer them. They're just waiting to be picked up by their crews and so far has caused no harm to anyone. Then the brothers proceeded to wipe them all out along with the Parakoopas coming in to avenge their fallen comrades, Bowser Jr. soon later found no trace of the troops that he's trying to organize for his father. And the Koopa Troops, mind you, are like family to each other. It is not looking good for the image of the Mario brothers here lol||

[haughty sage]

||It’s pretty funny to me that in all the other M&L games, Bowser’s minions are either just field enemies you fight without talking or just NPCs. But in this game they’re like “oh hey Mario and Luigi, any idea where we are? Concordia? Wow that’s neat. Wait we’re supposed to kill you let’s do that”||

[tough ore]

i'm finally done with brothership and i gotta talk about the section before the final boss. the whole thing felt so surreal because i couldn't believe i was playing an official nintendo game. with the ||increasingly distorted music, graphical glitches, looping area, teleporting characters, weird ?-blocks and the black void in the castle it felt like i was playing through some fanmade creepypasta hack.|| might've been the best part of the game.

overall a really have no idea what to rate this game.
bad performance, weird luigi button assignment in battles, no luigi control on the overworld, no bonus points for level-ups, no boss rush, and many other little details really drag this game down. i'm personally not a fan of most of the bros attacks. the story pacing is awful and way too stretched at some points.
but still i enjoyed playing through this game. the story is good, i love all the characters and of course i'm just happy this series still exists.
i think i have to agree with the IGN review that everyone likes to ridicule for some reason. it's a mid mario & luigi game. better than paper jam but doesn't come close to bowser's inside story and dream team.

[frozen vapor]

Glad to know im not the only one that was sufferin from Luigi being delayed at attack reaction

like i said earlier in my review, i checked frame by frame and it looked like his hammer was swinging and hitting the attacks, and i expected it to be countered perfectly and yet the game instead said that it counted as a hit

[haughty sage]

I’d argue you have more control over Luigi in the overworld than you did in previous games tbh but it is weird to get used to

[frozen vapor]

Even with the easy peesy counters plug

[sharp wind]

||I absolutely love that part of the game! The end before the final boss was truly amazing. It gave off major "Every copy of Mario & Luigi: Brothership is personalized" vibes and I LIVE for this kind of reference. I'm kinda surprised Nintendo did anything like that.||
||I do wonder what happens if you agree to live in the fake world, though... I never tried it since I felt it might actually end my game ||

[loud crown]

||The Hammer Bros over Skorcheen Island really just said "Peace was never an option"||

[gloomy halo]

Ok I’m curious

Whenever we link an island are they… travelling with us??

Like being towed

[loud crown]

Yes they do! They disappeared from their original location before they were linked and can only now be accessed through pipes

[loud crown]

I just had a "Nah, i'd win" moment and ||took on Glohm Gobblick the moment i recieved the quest at lv27, in which it is recommended for lv35. I locked in super hard and won first try, the fight proved the overpoweredness of the plugs and i got to use the Boo Biscuit for the first time in my playthrough, it is broken to stall out turns for Luigi Logic and Auto plug uses. I'm surprised i didn't even get a level up from that fight. Mario is now cracked with the new boots i was rewarded with lol||

[gloomy halo]

Oh my god why is the bros attack button AFTER the flee button

I’m so used to pressing left for bros but no the flee block is right there

I’ve done it at least 2 times now but watch me keep doing it in late game

[loud crown]

And fleeing is so instant and free in this game lol

One misinput and there goes your progress in the fight

[gloomy halo]

At least they don’t despawn

[loud crown]

The Power Plugs are already OP enough, why do i need to have ||up to 4 slots of them?? I thought it's already insane enough to have been upgraded to 3|| 😭

[loud crown]

....shit just hits the fan real quick when ||Bowser|| pulled up...
That's my GOAT !!!!

[frozen vapor]

https://youtu.be/A-0r5Q4d1MU?si=R-L5HrQF0D8OFI4w well here we go

an hour long

[crude spade]

wow

[frozen vapor]

I agree with pretty much all of his points

[crude spade]

So I got to the ||wedding|| scene in M&L Brothership and I'm not gonna lie, ||that whole time I was waiting for the bad guys to show up and either kidnap or give glohm to everyone. Especially after they eavesdropped in the planning stage earlier. I mean, there was everyone important at the wedding: Connie, Arc, Peach, Starlow, Technikki, Vulko, the IDLE group, etc. They could have ended the adventure of reconnecting islands right there. And while everyone else was on the drifting island, they could have destroyed the new Uni-Tree too. Missed opportunity. I admit it would have been a cruel writing, but after some story-driven games, I kind of started to guess if stuff like that would happen.||

Anyway, just thought to write down my thoughts as I'm playing through the game. Might be entertaining for you to read or for me to look back once I beat the game.

[loud crown]

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING !!!!

||My intrusive thoughts wanted the Extension Corps to sabotage the wedding ceremony so bad, part of it is just because i'm not really a fan of those two corny duos
I even tried to get the inferior options for the flower crown and wedding cake for the funny but messed up the first one because i misremembered, i'm such a hater LMAO||

[frozen vapor]

I legit thought that ||the wedding was gonna be the first fight we like fight all of the Extension Corps members but not. Unfortunately the wedding is just another thing that just does nothin except pad out the runtime||

[loud crown]

Yeah, honestly it would be nice if we get to ||fight the other two members of the Extension Corps right there since it has been a long time coming since we fought Ten, i was aching to see Ecks and Shun in action. Not counting the third lighthouse fight where Shun was just a background fodder for Luigi Logic||

[frozen vapor]

Id say Brothership has an alright franchise

Some of the songs are pretty memorable

But then theres other songs i wish were

Hideki Sakamoto did a really good job tho

Apparently he is the one responsible for Lifelight from Smash Ultimate so thats like

Nuts

I still think that his work doesnt top Shimomuras work

[loud crown]

Wow Brothership is so popular already that it spawned it's own franchise

[sharp wind]

I sure do love the Brothership franchise

[crude spade]

Same. I like Brothership 13 the best

[formal merlin]

Brothership: the brotherning was my favourite

[frozen vapor]

Well

I officially 100%ed Brothership

Thats one beefy game knocked down the list

[crude spade]

How easy is 100%ing Brothership? Is there a specific reward for this achievement?

Anyway, just cleared ||the third lighthouse|| and I feel like the story's finally starting to become interesting

[frozen vapor]

Well the challenges give you rewards

So is the side quests

And tbh they dont really give you like insane rewards

Just more healing items, gear thats slightly more stronger than the stuff ya get in stores

And beans

[loud crown]

[crude spade]

true

[dim hornet]

I’ve been having fun with the game so far.

Would you suggest sending ||Luigi to be lead investigator for the Snaptors in the Color-Full Sea?||

[nocturne sandal]

||If your Mario is underleveled then yes||

[dim hornet]

||Is 16 underleveled?||

||Both Mario and Luigi are the same level actually so I probably should send Peach.||

[nocturne sandal]

Yeah that's what I mean lol

[crude spade]

(Brothership late-game enemy spoiler) ||I absolutely love how they made the shy guys fight in this game. Their attacks are just Mario Party minigames like Shy Guy Says and that brought me such a joy.||

[icy narwhal]

Still only on the 2nd/3rd islands of brothership but I’ve been enjoying it so far

If it ramps up like people say it does then I’m very excited

[frozen vapor]

https://x.com/dusaME64/status/1872928924436709541

두사 (@dusaME64) on X

#TheOrigamiKing

Twitter · Dec 28, 2024, 8:53 AM

[gloomy halo]

So glad Brothership kept the tradition of bosses fucking exploding when they’re defeated

https://tenor.com/view/janelcore-kazehaya-tatsumi-gif-6664858132369656989

[frozen vapor]

Tho i wish they were as insane as this

[gloomy halo]

EW STARLOW

I FOUND HER

GET AWAY FROM ME WITH YOUR TUTORIALS

@frozen vapor sorry for ping but what is the rate I’m getting bros attacks

Like will they all come up through story

I only know one of them which is a returning bros attack but that’s it

[frozen vapor]

Tryna remember lol

So if ya met Starlow by now then im pretty sure youll get your next bros attacks in a couple hours id say

[gloomy halo]

Yup

Omg please we can only have shells for so long

[frozen vapor]

what i mean is that i wish Brothership was like these ones

[loud crown]

I love epileptic explosions

Speaking of bosses
That ||Bowser|| fight was awesome, i like the creativity that the devs puts into their attacks and the little callbacks to ||Bowser's basic and special attacks from BiS and how his minions are actively backing him up in the fight like the loyal army they are. I like the way they showcased how supportive Bowser's minions are to each other and to their king in a way it expresses that there's more to them than just your average "the boss and their servants" type of relationship||

[crude spade]

Yeah, I liked that boss fight too

[dim hornet]

Finished the ||second great lighthouse.|| So I guess I’m halfway through Brothership now?

[frozen vapor]

Spoilers for the Thousand year door ||https://vxtwitter.com/maribouoekaki/status/1874073016482812147||

[loud crown]

Hell yeaaahhh

I love going back and deleting lv 1s from existence

[loud crown]

Fought ||Glohm Sharpcask (rec lv39) at level 34, got my ass kicked and had my first ever game over... with multiple more of them. Returned for a rematch at lv 36, confident because of my new rank up, still gave me as much of a difficult time and made me wanna cry but alas i locked in and bodied it first try after numerous prayers. The glohm boss rematches are like one of the only time this game gave me a severe amount of stress. Their attacks are so foul with how tight of a timeframe that you had to react to them are 😭 ||

[haughty sage]

They’re tough for sure

[loud crown]

I've gotten to where ||i've connected the Conductor Island and the story has been really intriguing me, they cooked with this game||

||It took a while for the story to pick itself up but when they did they tell a very compelling one||

[loud crown]

All my homies hates ||Adaphne btw. Technikki for life, that's my girl. We love our imperfect, slightly autistic pretty lil genius||

[haughty sage]

||It does feel kind of awkward that you go through all the trouble to get Adaphne on board while the world is falling apart, you choose Technikki because of course, and then Adaphne just effs off for the rest of the game||

||Makes you wonder why she’s even there||

[loud crown]

||Technikki invented the Clockout Blow that took inspiration from her so that when we meet face-to-face i'm using it against that nerd! It's on sight!||

[frozen vapor]

Respect gained 100%

[frozen vapor]

M&L box art

[sharp wind]

I just started my minimal level-up, no gear, no plugs run of Brothership and fighting the first boss sent me from level three to level 6 all at once.

This is going to be so painful, I can feel it

[loud crown]

I wanna clock ||Adaphne|| in the face, she disgusts me

[loud crown]

Yeah... ||why even bother getting her if Technikki already had a plan and we didn't even get an opinion of it from her except for a "y'all suck, get outta my sight" kind of attitude?||

||Feels like we just went to Jellyfish Island mainly to link up the island and recruiting Adaphne is just a bonus||

||While the story wanted it to be the other way around||

[haughty sage]

||I just wished they’d had the two of them work together on figuring out a way to cross the barrier, like they did with the boots. They could’ve had that character development be part of the main story||

||Instead the effort just feels like a waste||

||That said I did enjoy the pizza quest island||

[loud crown]

Exactly!!

[loud crown]

||they really didn't have to give me her disgusting pizza eating asmr after that... my vision is already violated enough, they didn't have to go for the ear||

||i almost didn't want to do Adaphne's side quest but just for the sake of this game's completion, i guess i gotta do it against my own will||

[shrewd moss]

||i find it hilarious that she is very attracted to Luigi||

||and all he had to do is stand there doing nothing, and he gets girls like that due to his Luigi aura, what a chad||

||well aside from making pizzas, he did almost nothing, but still, Luigi bringing his cooking skills from his italian family heritage to the table||

[loud crown]

||she doesn't deserve him and he doesn't deserve her, their difference in quality is too wide to befits one another (Luigi is the obvious superior one)||

||i don't think Adaphne even deserves anyone with her personality and attitude||

[shrewd moss]

||everyone is very attracted to Luigi for some reason, i cant blame them, but still||

||she might not deserve Luigi, he is just too good for her, Luigi works best when hes with his brother||

[loud crown]

||Luigi's already has his eyes on Prince Peasley||

||his heart is already taken in the very first game in the series||

[shrewd moss]

||it would be funnier if Luigi doesnt have his eyes on anyone, but everyone has their eyes on him a lot and hes too nervous with long standing relationships, it gives him the anxious mood to run away||

[crude spade]

||Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing||

[shrewd moss]

||Luigi just doesnt care all that much about it, because hes too busy cleaning mansions or being with his older brother Mario, but when hes being himself, he attracts people along the way either by accident or coincidence||

[crude spade]

||Not to mention Luigi doesn't like how Adaphne seduces him||

[shrewd moss]

||i know Luigi ends up getting all the ladies, but why not give a bit to my boy Mario, he isnt incapable on getting ladies but hes more devoted to Peach the most, and maybe that makes him a bit generic and not seen as attractive like his younger brother as a result||

[loud crown]

||ah yes, sexual assaults, add that to one of Adaphne's many Ls (not standing for Luigi)||

[gloomy halo]

Well I’ve already had my first game over LMAO

against the boss of lottacoins island

||the repeated poking beak attack I swear It didnt give me enough input time to ready my counters after each hit||

[loud crown]

Sounds like a skill issue to me

[gloomy halo]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-12716535596245055877

[haughty sage]

Pffffft

[shrewd moss]

i love the Lurio and Muigi series

[loud crown]

Going up against ||Glohm Pipegunk (rec lv43) at level 41||, was fully prepared to cry fighting the guy because i couldn't bother spending any more time grinding for levels but to my surprise i first-tried it mid diff. I was thankful that it's attack pattern wasn't as difficult to counter as the last ||Glohm Sharpcask|| fight. Speaking of, i think part of the reason for my struggles from it other than me being underleveled was due to me fighting it before ||blasting off to Zokket Fortress in the sky and there i'd get better gears and my 5th plug slot immediately after the Glohm Bowser boss fight. I was super paranoid that it'd be the story's final destination that's why i held off on it in the first place||

[loud crown]

Alright, i'm finishing Brothership today chat. It's time to lock in

[haughty sage]

Good luck gamer

Hope you enjoy

[crude spade]

Good luck

[loud crown]

Oh god the ||red mists... are we in a banned Spongebob episode right now...?||

[shrewd moss]

||Bowser is gonna show up with hyperealistic eyes, Luigi is gonna scream and they both wake up||

[loud crown]

||How is the game still going on for so long after Fortress Zokket??? I have to go through with Burnadette and Chilliam's shenanigans again which i don't look forward to and they didn't even fill out one full heart out of 3 for the Bonding Can 😭 ||

[haughty sage]

We do a little bit of filler

[crude spade]

The thing is the game keeps dragging on

A lot of people say the pace of the game is weak and I have to agree with them

But you're in the final stretch now

[loud crown]

Also i just accidentally found a funny glitch where ||Mario started having a hammer in his hand after i failed the flower bomb boulder chase minigame on Skorcheen Island. The hammer moves along with his normal moving and jumping animation and it stays on his hand until i make Mario use the hammer button for it to disappear. I don't precisely know what triggers the glitch but hey, ya boy actually broke the game for once||

[crude spade]

there seem to have quite a good number of glitches in the game, but I didn't encounter any of them in my playthrough

[loud crown]

Okay i am NOT finishing Brothership today if the pacing is still gonna be drawn out for this long. I went into this expecting with only ||Fortress Zokket and a couple bosses|| in mind. Not another string of fetch quest: apocolyptic edition LMAO

Until tomorrowwww

Honestly tho, despite the pacing, i think the story is going in a pretty fascinating direction, one that has an unusually dark tone even for a Mario game. Imagine showing this to someone that lacks the context of this game

Man

||not Technikki.... :(||

[shrewd moss]

||i love it when colorful games end up going existential apocalypse nightmares by the final endgame, i love this trope so much||

||Epic Mickey, Sonic, now Mario, i love seeing these childhood characters be put into some evangelion level doomsday setting and still retain being themselves, i just enjoy seeing stuff like this because of how insane it is||

[loud crown]

Okay, finishing Brothership today for real this time

-# hopefully

[gloomy mica]

finishing brothership (locked in) (real) (actually real fr)

[loud crown]

HOLY CRAP THE TITLE SCREEN

Actually kinda creepy ngl

AND I GOT JUMPSCARED

And then we went into the file select screen and it's back to 🕺 💃 🎶