and get, between them, one (1) cutscene
#TLoZ: Tears of the Kingdom Spoiler Thread!
vague path
PFFT I FORGOT ABOUT THIS LMAO
mild oasis
they kinda just represent something rather than a character
which I don't think is a crime
uneven hazel
I literally don't care about these characters
sly shadow
don't you want to
mild oasis
like introducing a 3rd generation of legendary hero of the race could feel like a bit much
vague path
yOU DO
uneven hazel
listen
every single one of my problems with this game could've been solved if those 5 cutscenes had all been different
that's like an extra 20 minutes of story
make me care about Rauru
show me them fighting Ganondorf
God literally give them name's fs
vague path
idk I actaully did care about Rauru
mild oasis
I think it would've taken away a lot of focus from the new sages if the old ones got names. you can think that's better or worse but the old sages would just be the champions 2.0
vague path
As like a father figure to Zelda
uneven hazel
Nintendo grow balls for once challenge
sly shadow
raura wife
uneven hazel
let me tell you a story
back in the days of Xenoblade Chronicles 2 releasing
I played the game
cried a lot
but that's not new
vague path
||Sonia was kind of neat for being like a motherly figure to Zelda, and since Zelda lost her Mom when she was little I thought that was neat||
uneven hazel
I cry at lots of things in videogames
anyway
played through the game
and then the DLC came out
mild oasis
ok guys this is getting too tame so let's debate
uneven hazel
I was a student at the time and Splatoon 2 was still around so I didn't play it at the time
vague path
But tbh she was kind of minimally used so not one of my favorite chatracters
mild oasis
even though the game treats it like one, was ganondorf truly a bigger threat than ganon
uneven hazel
||I watched the final cutscene of the DLC||
||Saw Milton die||
I felt more emotion over that character's death than I did over Sonia
vague path
even though the game treats it like one, was ganondorf truly a bigger threat tha...
Which ganon
uneven hazel
literally a character I'd seen in one cutscene
mild oasis
botw
vague path
Well... he had a conscience here vs an energy being in BOTW so that could play into it
In a practical sense? No.
uneven hazel
even if he doesn't appear as such
bc he does the bad guy thing of appearing at the start, then doing literally fuck all until you find him again
vague path
Like seriously tho
I am salty they showed that scene of him looking like Demise in the trailer
and it meant literally nothing
uneven hazel
in b4 the DLC story links everything back to Skyward Sword
Like shows undebatable footage of SS Zelda and Link
God I don't even know what I'd do
vague path
Also like the Zonai stuff
uneven hazel
don't know if I could cope
mild oasis
I just feel like ganon ||did so much more damage compared to ganondorf||
vague path
We know next to nothing about them still
vague path
I just feel like ganon ||did so much more damage compared to ganondorf||
bc he did
||'dorf didn't get the chance to do anything||
mild oasis
but he wasn't treated with the same level of precaution I feel
||they tried so much harder to stop Dorf I think||
||see Zelda's whole thing||
sly shadow
what's a triforce
vague path
Something to sell triforce heroes on Nintendo 3DS™️ in 2015
vague path
The last game that had anything to do with the object was ALBW 10 years ago lol
vague path
lmao you are right Euan those things
uneven hazel
I will never
ever
ever
understand
why
you would call your game
Tears of the Kingdom
and then never
ever
ever
refer to them as tears
sly shadow
they are tear shaped
uneven hazel
and then
vague path
Those were probably the memories
uneven hazel
call them Secret Stones
like what the fuck
what the fuck
I'm not mad right?
that's a stupid fucking name
secret stones
sly shadow
ngl I thought "tears of the kingdom" was a reference to some shameful thing that happened in hyrule's past or smth, or a great tragedy...
no
vague path
I do agree with you lol
uneven hazel
the 6 year old kids I teach could come up with better than that
vague path
ngl I thought "tears of the kingdom" was a reference to some shameful thing that...
Yeah like seriously
That is such an evocative name
and it refers to just... an object that manifests as this game's memories
Ooooh what a spoiler
Since they didn't tell us the name bc of "spoilers"
uneven hazel
maybe they changed the name
mild oasis
they should've called them the magic commas
vague path
Lmao
Honestly it should just be called The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2
Because that's what it is
uneven hazel
The Legend of Zelda: Sidon is fucking Straight you aboslute Wierdos
I'm actually all for the mixed capitalisation too
vague path
🐟
sly shadow
The Legend of Zelda: Two More Sets of Champions
uneven hazel
I'm also partial to a bit of the whole
The Legend of Zelda: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
mild oasis
The Legend of Zelda: oh this archipelago looks exactly like the 5 other ones I visited last
vague path
lol
mild oasis
The Legend of Zelda: holy shit I didn't know I could do that
is probably my preferred title
uneven hazel
2
mild oasis
I suppose
vague path
It's weird
I think I like TOTK more than BOTW
but
I am more disappointed in TOTK than BOTW
uneven hazel
oh so just like my parents with me and my siblings then
vague path
sly shadow
honestly that's a super good summary of how I feel too
mild oasis
despite being the pessimist that I am I was satisfied but TOTK, the main source of disappointment was the sky for me but I really like everything else personally
vague path
Honestly I can't wait for Demo to show up and rip us all a new one though for this convo though 😂
sly shadow
(hi deemo luv u <3)
sly shadow
me the most :))
sly shadow
ngl i dont think ill ever get over how disappointed i am with totk's story
not even in a "mad for the sake of mad" way, I just.......... 
mild oasis
I enjoyed it a lot more than I did botw I think, just cause the big moment shook me so hard
vague path
I've been on levels of that for years now tbh with Zelda. Every game since Skyward has scaled back the previous story content for gameplay and I've just kinf of had to accept that about this series now.
vague path
(Which is partially why Zelda is no longer my favorite game franchise)
mild oasis
the sage's ballad is gonna drop and sidon amiibo are gonna be HARD to find
uneven hazel
deep breaths euan
vague path
Post TOTK the Zelda series is probably in my #3-5 range now
sly shadow
idk it's just interesting to me how you can have such a good story concept and just decide to not capitalise on it
i wont talk about specifics tho because otherwise i genuinely will never stop
i could talk about totk's story forever
vague path
I'm sure Demo would love that too lol
But anyways
TOTK fun
somewhat dissapointing
now to wait for MP4 or new switch or something
lmao
uneven hazel
hgnghhngnghn I just found ||the Tunic of the Wind||
sly shadow
there's something so intrinsically fun about launching yourself through a ceiling and ending up at the top of a mountain
uneven hazel
putting that on right now
sturdy flint
Honestly I can't wait for Demo to show up and rip us all a new one though for th...
Not sure what I'd rip into here.
Everyone is allowed to examine a video game how they like.
I haven't even done any story content still and I've also taken a two week break from TotK.
vague path
It was a joke, your discussions are always fun 👍
sturdy flint
It's hard to put into words how I feel about the direct comparison to BotW that people treat TotK with. Therefore I do not rank either one over the other right now. The games just.... truly... do not feel similar to me.
And I am intimately familiar with BotW.
But this is all subjective talk regardless. Everyone wants to rank things and everyone wants what they like to be ordered in neat little packages so that your identity never shifts over time. DW likes good stories so his golden standard for Zelda games is Skyward Sword since that's how he feels a good story should be told in a Zelda game.
Neither BotW or TotK offer a better golden standard so it's easier to compare the two together...
I have no idea if that makes sense to you.
That's kinda how I feel I guess.
I don't know what my standard for TotK is yet. All I know is that what I'm doing is fun. And what I'm doing feels similar to BotW, but there's not enough to keep me trapped in this "this is just the previous game" feedback loop
vague path
I think I get what you're saying, if what you mean by "gold standard" is like a momentus/innovative step in a certain aspect of a game.
sturdy flint
I remember a few weeks back Euan said that TotK lives or dies by its comparison to BotW. It still resonates with me because I feel that is such a reductive statement towards TotK and a bolstering one for BotW. The games are not on the same level.
However I know that I'm just one voice
So by default TotK 100% lives or dies by comparison because that's just what conversations do with the game
sly shadow
I think that's a true statement with any sequel tbh, not just TotK
if you don't like the sequel as much as the first then you know
sturdy flint
Yeah
Idk I've had a lot of thoughts about critical analysis of things these past few weeks with all the TotK talk.
Made me rethink a lot. I want to be less competitive with my own opinions because it really is just discussion. And I don't think I convince anyone to think like I do... because I Don't know how to describe what I think lmao
vague path
TBH, sometimes I wonder if it would be easier to appreciate the new games if it was a simple thing like a rebranding of the franchise to something like "Hyrule Fantasy" or something. Especially since it seems obvious to me that the devs have a certain kind of direction they want to take the series that is pretty different from the Ocarina "Status Quo" of the previous two decades. But then again, you could argue that the OoT games are the outliers because from the beginning, Zelda was always about the sense of wonder Miyamoto had when exploring Japan as a kid, which is obvious in Zelda I.
At least when it comes to comparing the games
sturdy flint
I think rebranding would be detrimental to the sales figures.
vague path
Yeah that would be the biggest reason not to yeah
And it is still "Zelda" so
Not saying it should
uneven hazel
Hypothesis
vague path
Just an interesting thought exercise
uneven hazel
Lack of Triforce, established series traditions twisted into new mechancis, and a wide variety of costumes and armour
I would like to posit that, while Tears of the Kingdom is a sequel to Breath of the Wild, Triforce Heroes is a prequel.
In this essay, I will
vague path
I knew it
Tri force heroes answers all the plot questions I have with TOTK
Euan cracked the code
sturdy flint
I'd be fine with that. I'm one of those few who had a blast with Triforce Heroes. One of those games where fun outweighs every negative.
uneven hazel
I love Triforce Heroes
sturdy flint
Critical issue: Definitely need to play with others lol
vague path
I appreciate it for what it is after some discussions here but I will admit when it came out I hated it lmao
Which was totally fueled by how it has the Legend of Zelda branding
sly shadow
Made me rethink a lot. I want to be less competitive with my own opinions becaus...
this is interesting to me
at least personally I'm never really out to change people's mind or anything. for me discussing what I didn't like and think could have been done better about a certain thing is more interesting than discussing what I did like, because I already know what I like and probably why I like it. It's a more satisfying experience (even if it's very ranty sometimes) to unpick what didn't work for me, cause it lets me better understand what I do and do not like about games or stories or whatever
So, I think it's good not to get too competitive about opinions. It's not about "defending your fandom", which a lot of people feel nowadays I think, it's just discussion.
I think that TotK is both a very different and very similar game to BotW depending on the angle you look at it from. I think if I was younger I'd think it was very different, because a lot of the "wonder" of the game comes from the building and fusing and stuff, which just did not exist in BotW. But when I look at what you actually do in the game - ie, explore places, complete shrines, do main quests in the game's four main regions, cook food, find new weapons, fight basically the same enemies... then it's a very similar experience.
it's like
I didn't like the dungeons - okay, why not? what didn't work for me there? for me that's interesting to explore, and even if it rarely works out I guess I just like posting my thoughts online lol
sturdy flint
this is interesting to me
at least personally I'm never really out to change peo...
Yeah and you're absolutely correct here. My competitive nature towards discussions definitely comes out of emotion towards that thing. I don't fight for Ocarina of Time because it's just a game I liked, no I have serious emotional ties to it and like many others that game shaped my perspective on what video games should be.
I think my desire for TotK to be separated from BotW is likely an attempt to split them inside my own perspective. I know the similarities and I want to evaluate TotK exclusively without outside influences shaping my opinion toward it. But that doesn't work in a discussion about what the game does and how it plays lol.
For me I say "The game is SO different dude it's a whole new experience"
And while that is mostly true... objectively it's a white lie.
And a lie to myself lol
Sometimes I wonder if this is the discussions people had back when Majora's Mask came out.
uneven hazel
the internet didn't exist when MM came out
uneven hazel
Deliberately provocative post
sly shadow
not on the internet but to each other in real life (could you imagine)
vague path
well it did but not nearly the same lol
sturdy flint
You feel dumb right now
uneven hazel
to be fair I've spoken to like 5x as many people about BotW and TotK as any other Zelda game irl
for a total of 5
sturdy flint
MM fanboys hopping into those AOL chat rooms to drop the heat on the new Zelda game
sly shadow
Daruk
sturdy flint
Sometimes I wonder if this is the discussions people had back when Majora's Mask...
This is obviously time period contextual. Water fountain conversations are about the same concept as public Discord text channels.
uneven hazel
Darmani
sly shadow
Darami
sly shadow
amd
sturdy flint
Salami
uneven hazel
don't know why I picked him we all know the hot MM character is the Zora
mild oasis
dormammu
vague path
amd computer chips
want me to discuss those for hours LMAO
sturdy flint
I hope you stay true to that Jet because I've heard lots of comments from co-workers who just finished the story. Most of them were Mostly Positive.
So far I don't even know if there even is any story lmao. I've done two region dungeons and all it's amounted to is "Wow Zelda would NEVER she's normally SO NICE"
sly shadow
I could say
sturdy flint
And the same exact dialogue being spoken by both Tulin and Yunobo in the same exact cutscene told from a different region character explaining the same exact thing.
sly shadow
so many like big "start an argument" statements about totk's story
I won't but like
I could
sturdy flint
Why did you spoiler that lol
sly shadow
oh deemo
uneven hazel
||I hope you enjoyed literally 90% of the story||
sturdy flint
I assume the other two sages will have the exact same dialogue as well with the same cutscenes. Personally not looking forward to that.
sly shadow
sweet innocent child
uneven hazel
I assume the other two sages will have the exact same dialogue as well with the ...
I do have some good news on that front
sly shadow
me when plus button
vague path
It's strange
uneven hazel
in the time that the cutscenes play you can tweet about how you've watched the same cutscnee 3 times already
vague path
I get a sort of contentment from TOTK that I didn't really expect to feel
Not even really because of the game itself
sturdy flint
If the next two sages ask the same two one word questions in the same inflection I might turn the game off
vague path
Just because I know for 100% certainty that this is what Zelda is going to be
sturdy flint
I mean so far none of the story has been region related which is why I've been having a lot more fun just... interacting with the world.
The side stories are super good so far and I've had WAY more fun helping take out pirates, rig a mayoral election, and clear up the two regions
vague path
Oh did any of you look at the art book
sturdy flint
Not yet
vague path
I recently did since I beat the game
sturdy flint
You want Xenoblade 2's art book Euan
mild oasis
Demon King? Secret Stones?
sturdy flint
Thank you Medic coming in clutch buddy
mild oasis
So that was the imprisoning war...
vague path
You want Xenoblade 2's art book Euan
The only Xenoblade one I don't have lmao
uneven hazel
I can only imagine that Xenoblade 2's art book is just a lot of skin
And not even skin I'm interested in
vague path
My Sister has it tho
sturdy flint
Idk I've never looked at it other than to open it for the smell test.
sturdy flint
XC2's book has very odd smelling ink. XC1 is fine. XC3 is also odd. TotK smelled good like a normal new art book.
uneven hazel
I was going to make fun of the smell test but 1. I also partake and 2. I still do the lick test on switch cartridges
sturdy flint
The best smelling art books have been the Hearthstone ones so far that I've smelled.
Kirby art book didn't even smell like much
vague path
can't say I really considered the smell of the art
vague path
sly shadow
why are you smelling art
sly shadow
you mean
vague path
Demo the art smeller confirmed
uneven hazel
Yeah books have a smell
sturdy flint
Nah like density of ink, colors, etc.
sly shadow
oh ok
uneven hazel
I can well believe that art books will have a unique scent based on their printing methods
sturdy flint
If you crack open the new Stephen King tome it'll smell like a new book.
If you crack open the new Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Art Collection it'll smell like an art book.
vague path
I will concede that I used to smell trading cards for the "new card scent" too so I kind of get it
sly shadow
i like the smell of new tshirts
sturdy flint
Pokemon smells awesome.
Magic can be a bit iffy. They do weird stuff with their printing all the time
Might buy a Lorcana pack (Disney's new TCG coming this Fall) just to see how they do.
uneven hazel
I used to smell the people in my class at school
vague path
Euan did you taste test the TOTK cart tho
uneven hazel
I should clarify this was when I was at school, not at the school I currently work at
Pf course I did
sturdy flint
I also did
vague path
how was it
uneven hazel
I lick all my new games
sturdy flint
It was indeed bad
uneven hazel
They're still coated in bitter almonds
sturdy flint
My Forgotten Land copy had no coating on it.
sturdy flint
Just plastic
uneven hazel
If someone didn't continue to lick the games
Nintendo would be free to do whatever they liked with them
Candy flavour
Egg flavour
vague path
uneven hazel
Art book smell flavour
sturdy flint
Earwax
uneven hazel
I'm here providing a service
For free
Oh earwax is one of the worst tasting things I've ever eaten
sturdy flint
Try all the Nintendo Switch cartridge Bertie Bot's Every Flavor
That's how you know Gandalf was a nasty one.
What's his name?
sly shadow
Ganondorf
sly shadow
Ganondore
uneven hazel
Dunban
vague path
Duncan
sly shadow
Dylan
pretty sure he likes rolling
but he's not sonic
he's like
a turtle or smth
vague path
and lovable meathead Rain
sturdy flint
Jet wtf did you make a Dylan reference XD
sly shadow
wow that's nearly a homophone
sturdy flint
Real home runs I tell you
uneven hazel
What eventide fucked
uneven hazel
I really liked it
sturdy flint
Eventide was fine but I think it suffered from the freedom of the game
uneven hazel
I'll be honest I prefer eventide to the 100000000 eventide-lite shrines
sturdy flint
Doing it when you already completed 100 shrines was baby
But if I had gone to it early game?
Now that would've been a challenge.
Idk if I prefer the whole island compared to the shrines yet
uneven hazel
The shrines all feel like tutorials
sturdy flint
I've done quite a few and I like them all equally as much. They do a great job giving really good challenges with specific mechanics
uneven hazel
When I discover a shrine 70 hours into the game I don't want a tutorial
A forced tutorial at that
sturdy flint
Another freedom suffering
sturdy flint
I don't think it'd be hard to program the shrines to all be tutorials until you complete them all
sturdy flint
Then make them random Idk
uneven hazel
Oh ok
sly shadow
||and it's just the same puzzle three times with one enemy and two long corridors connecting them and omg...||
the sneak strike shrine too but
sturdy flint
To do what others do
uneven hazel
The Sneak Strike tutorial where for some reason sneaks triking is 100x times harder
sturdy flint
The BotW comparison here
uneven hazel
I found a really fun shrine tonight
sturdy flint
Not being competitive I Said so
uneven hazel
One ||under the great plateau||
And when it clicked it was a real "oh wow that's really good"
sturdy flint
There's a lot of that BotW problem where it felt like they said "We need 120 shrines" and then ran out of ideas about 70~80 in.
uneven hazel
Not clever it's not a particularly hard puzzle
sly shadow
OH
sturdy flint
There's a lot of misses in BotW. TotK did not correct this issue.
uneven hazel
Just well integrated
uneven hazel
Aren't there more in totk
sturdy flint
I'm actually leaving work now so have a good one
I'll have more TotK stuff to talk about this weekend
mild oasis
I did all the shrines no help 😎 everyone please look at how smart I am please
sturdy flint
I'm almost done with SM3DW
sly shadow
@mild oasis what the hell is up with Drifting Flame
sturdy flint
Of course. Thank you too Euan. This is a very nice side of you
sturdy flint
Quick say that you hate OoT or something
mild oasis
if I had to guess
based on name
what it might be
attach the fire to the spinny thing then give it power to spin
I remember that taking me a while
mild oasis
if that's not the right shrine
sly shadow
there is no spinny thing
mild oasis
then good luck
mild oasis
wait let me look up what shrine it is
then I'll give you a hint
without giving it away
sly shadow
I haven't done Eventide in TotK yet but it is on my to-do list
that and the pirates
then that's about all I specifically want to do really
vague path
I did it because there is a || shrine || there
and I wanted to do all of them
which I did
sly shadow
yeah but like
for what
i don't even understand what the goal of the shrine is
it's like they forgot to finish it
mild oasis
oh hold on yeah I see
vague path
Which shrine are you talking about?
mild oasis
did you get past the first puzzle
mild oasis
hmmm idk how to hint this without giving it away
sly shadow
then just give it away
vague path
This one?
mild oasis
recall
vague path
sly shadow
YEAH THAT ONE
mild oasis
just use recall
mild oasis
so you step on the thing and a candle falls out right
mild oasis
I didn't look at the guide for very long I'm going off of memory here
you may as well just look it up
having us look it up is no better
vague path
Yeah I think I just used recall on that one too
vague path
I used || Ultrahand to prop it up for a set period of time||, walked back to the button, and ||recalled it up to light the fire three times||
sly shadow
OH
I didn't even realise those things were there
cause I always looked to where the platform went and there's like a delay before they appear
mild oasis
ok I lied about the candle falling out part the candle is there beforehand, it's the wicks that come out
sly shadow
they could have like introduced them or smth
vague path
Honestly I nearly forgot about that shrine
The hardest shrine in the game for me was one where you had to make a platform and ride rails
Like it should have been so simple
but
it just didn't work
like it was broken or smth
was stuck on it for hours
not because I didn't know what to do
But because the physics were jank
mild oasis
The hardest shrine in the game for me was one where you had to make a platform a...
I really liked that one
you had to engineer it so that it wouldn't fall off
vague path
This one: ||https://youtu.be/TYfXFEKwqRw||
sly shadow
damn another shrine where the solution is to just do the same thing three times
at the first door I just ascended through the pillar thing lol
so that's why I didn't know those torch things even existed
mild oasis
yeah I loved that one
vague path
It's fine when it works
mild oasis
having to adjust my design to account for something I didn't think would happen was unironically fun
vague path
But It didn't work for me so
lol
There was also a || blessing || shrine that fakes you out that was kind of neat
vague path
idk tho tbh there wasn't many shrines that were super super notable for me
sly shadow
There was also a || blessing || shrine that fakes you out that was kind of neat
wish there were more like this, and that the name didn't give it away
mild oasis
I liked any shrine or challenge where I had to launch something
mild oasis
wish there were more like this, and that the name didn't give it away
I didn't even notice the name I think
vague path
I guess the ones where you have to fight the constructs with little to no gear given to you were my favorites
mild oasis
I liked any shrine or challenge where I had to launch something
if I was launching a ball or a sphere or something into a goal I was having fun
yeah I liked those little proving grounds
but I imagine those are divisive
vague path
really?
sly shadow
I guess the ones where you have to fight the constructs with little to no gear g...
I really liked these ones tbh
I think they were fun
but also very samey
feel like half a step up from the Tests of Strength in botw
vague path
Maybe it was because I always had a ton of hearts with them that I didn't see them as super super hard
I didn't bother with stamina at all
still atlas
I just ended up using MORE EYES + the great Lynel bow the game basically hands you
mild oasis
I didn't bother with stamina at all
did you regret it when getting ||the master sword||
mild oasis
ah right
vague path
pretty ez fix
mild oasis
forgot you could do that
also
I learned that
even with side adventures included
you can't have full of both
vague path
Yeah
mild oasis
which is so weird
still atlas
Gotta wait for the DLC again
vague path
Esp since at the start of the game
you do have both
lol
so it's impossible for you to be as strong as you were at the start of the game
Which kinda rubs me the wrong way
but it's a super minor thing
uneven hazel
Oh fun fact
You have fewer hearts even at the start of the game
I think you have 30 at the start?
And max is 40
vague path
wait wha
sly shadow
yeah
uneven hazel
I can't believe it's not 40
vague path
That explains why there is ||152|| shrines in TOTK yet you can't top both up ig
sly shadow
all the reds in totk (hearts, text, boss bars, etc) have more orange in them, while botw's were more pink
interesting fact
vague path
I did notice that yes
mild oasis
if there's 8 DLC then that's a nice round ||160||
uneven hazel
They literally removed malice from the rgb values wtf
uneven hazel
BotW had...
sly shadow
i do not want but am fully expecting totk dlc
uneven hazel
12?
vague path
two dungeons
mild oasis
I am excited for the dlc
more of this game? fuck yeah
someone gave me an idea that I really think will be close to the mark
still atlas
I do not need more games cut apart and the sold back to me
mild oasis
where the dlc will heavy lean into ultrahand creativity challenges
I think that's something we will get
vague path
The DLC will need something really special for me to get it
I thought BOTW DLC was okay for a first attempt
but wasn't really steller
mild oasis
I wasn't interested in master trials but bought it for the champions ballad
then did both anyways
vague path
Now that this isn't the first time I have much higher expectations of it
mild oasis
but they could give me anything now and I'd probably gobble it up
sly shadow
I think if there's dlc I'd want it to not be related to the story at all
like "here's 20 brand new super hard shrines" awesome
vague path
idek what I'd want in TOTK DLC tbh
still atlas
I would rather have a new Hyrule warriors
vague path
Master Mode should be a free update idk
mild oasis
what if it's female
vague path
honestly I'm kinda bummed that TOTK has no Master Mode already
uneven hazel
what if it's female
I will be attracted and uncomfortable
vague path
I'd love to jump back in but like
sly shadow
where
vague path
I feel content with base game
uneven hazel
Skip a few things first 😉
mild oasis
one of those is a kind of boss rush
mild oasis
but nothing for what you want no
mild oasis
I'd annihilate a boss rush
mild oasis
the first thing I started doing was take down monsters I was unprepared for
vague path
though not super interested in doing more for the sake of it
Any of you kill a King Gleeok
sly shadow
i found one
mild oasis
than a regular one
mild oasis
it was a fun twist but
it was no harder than the normal ones imo
oh I didn't know there was more than one
vague path
Eh I thought it was a little harder
mild oasis
I found it in the gleeok den in the big ol' downstairs
vague path
not hugely tho
south mural
I wish majoras mask would disguise you from every enemy
Only disguises you from enemies that have a Kilton mask
So excludes keese and like likes etc
still atlas
I found it in the gleeok den in the big ol' downstairs
Same here
south mural
If you have a badly damaged weapon that hasn’t been fused thus far and you fuse something to it, does it remove the badly damaged status?
Like does it just add to the remaining durability or is it still a badly damaged weapon
I’ve never used fused as a durability work around before, usually if I get a weapon I like I’ll immediately fuse it to a material
vernal oracle
fusing most things adds 25 durability, but only once per weapon
junior pilot
i played this game for more than 100 hours, kinda thinking i saw everything it has to offer
and then BAM
||low gravity sky island||
that was very fun and unexpected.
i also found my 100th shrine, maximized my stamina, got the master sword and defeated my first silver lynel.
lots of progress this week.
south mural
master sword 100 hours in
Oooh great job on the silver Lynel
Wild Lynel or the coliseum?
junior pilot
randomly encountered while exploring near the zora area
south mural
Had the bright idea of buffing my hylian shield by feeding it to an octorock in a tiny island surrounded by lava in a massive cave
I dropped the shield in lava like 5 times 😭
Thank god for recall
south mural
TIL if you get wet from any source then go to a high temp area (death mountain) you will temporarily be immune to the high temp before you start taking damage
So it’s not like you get a brief moment before you catch fire, it acts like you have a fireproof effect on
uneven hazel
Enjoying the image that benny has maximised his stamina but is still running around w 3 hearts
south mural
Does upgrading legacy armour sets to lvl 2 grant any set bonuses?
maiden creek
as in the link-from-other-game sets? set bonus is atk up
meager stream
The game itself was super awesome, I lost the touch a little bit once I got to the end but I never really got tired of just going out and doing stuff and getting distracted by something
Loved the abilities way more in this game since it just opens up so many more options
However I did find the characters and story to be a bit “meh”
There were good story points but they never really stood out to me
And Zelda is just. Really lame in this game imo
And when Ganondorf wasn’t in his demon king form I also really missed the like evil “touch”
He just sounded like a normal guy which kinda took me out of it
I did like Rauru tho
But overall I’d say its a massive step up from BotW and a way more fun packed game
agile ledge
enjoyed it vastly more than BOTW
without the special touch BOTW had when it first released
plainly talking about nature of the game
but TOTK still felt so fresh
I liked shrines so much better in this game
the new abilities are just so much more fun
I love finding ways to completely skip shrines by making questionable construction Nr. 148902098
(I also beat it 2 days ago)
primal yacht
I'm a bit torn between the two games abilities. On the one hand, the TotK abilities undoubtedly are far broader and better integrated. Fuse and Ultrahand are entire systems, and are primarily what the game is built around.
On the other hand though, I liked the simplicity of BotW's runes. I think the basic-ness of what we were given made making stuff up with them all the more rewarding.
Either way, they're spectacular systems all around
agile ledge
Oh yeah, I also think if BotW had TotK abilities, it wouldnt have been so
well
good
BotW was a complete revamp of the series up to that point in gameplay aspects
primal yacht
Yeah, TotK's abilities work because the game was designed around them. Definitely wouldn't work in any other game
agile ledge
so that going the more simple route with the abilities is imo a very necessary move
for back then I mean
But god its so enjoyable to just screw around in TotK with everything
I just wish things like the glider wouldnt disappear as fast, altough I do kinda get why
south mural
Hoverbikes >>>
meager stream
I liked shrines so much better in this game
Yup, same
Shrines in BotW were just a bit lacking in challenge/creativity to me and way too often you'd just find another test of strength that just burned through your weapons
The ones in TotK are way more clever in their design and allows you to also bring in your own solution that might not be intended
However I do really hope that the next Zelda game is not just this again
I'll play it
But I'm kinda tired of this formula now
primal yacht
I cant imagine it will be. This was a direct sequel, so obviously itll have similar formula, but it really was BotW 2
agile ledge
I get what all of you mean
but I find this type of zelda game so much more enjoyable than the others
south mural
Ocarina of time 2
I’ve heard the great plateau is roughly the same size as the entire OoT map?
compact bear
yeah I mostly loved the game but for me it didn´t have a big wow factor like Botw had cause the world is well mostly the same.
I was also very burnt out near the end of the game for some reason.
I´d like a shorter than 80 hour zelda game in the future
would be a nice change of pace
meager stream
I get what all of you mean
but I find this type of zelda game so much more enjoy...
i also think this formula is very fun and I wouldnt mind getting another game like it but not the next one
I just want some more traditional zelda 
agile ledge
get that, yeah
sly shadow
i definitely want the next game to be traditional
purely so it has a decent story
the new abilities and more sandbox-y nature of totk was fun but I'm not sure it's also the stuff i play zelda for
uneven hazel
Whack this open world thing into its own thing
otherwise you wait 10+ years for a zelda game in your preferred style
south mural
I mean here’s the thing
Botw broke conventions
Not just for the franchise
But the whole open world genre as a whole
So like
Going back to classic Zelda is something we can get again but by then it kinda takes away what Botw was setting up
It’s so different to older Zelda games because that was the entire point
I don’t think they should continue the open world stuff for the future forever but to go back to classic Zelda after what Botw has established for the genre and the franchise
Yeah
naive imp
What about like... Every other game
south mural
If it’s strictly top down 2D Zelda that’s fine but how are they gonna go back to a linear 3D Zelda after this
Or maybe follow links adventure and do a 2D thing
uneven hazel
linear 3D Zelda is a very different game from BotW
BotW isn't better it's just very very different
sly shadow
I really don't think it's a case of "BotW/TotK changed so much how could you it back"
uneven hazel
If you offered me Skyward Sword 2 or Tears of the Kingdom 2 for the same amount of money I'd take the former every time
south mural
To me it just seems counter intuitive if they developed botw so that it could break away from the Zelda formula only to go back to it sometime later
Which again I’m not against it
agile ledge
They will prolly aim for a middle way
south mural
While trying not to imply that every Zelda HAS to be botw from now on lol
Top down Zelda is probably the exception because it’s… a top down perspective
sly shadow
something down the middle would be best imo
more linear but still with some of the more unique aspects like cooking and weapon types and stuff
still atlas
I kinda just want that topdown Zelda like A Link Between Worlds next
uneven hazel
Top down is its own thing too though
south mural
Link between worlds was the only Zelda game I never needed a guide for it’s a beautiful game
uneven hazel
I could understand if they wanted to break away from the forumal of, I dunno, New Super Mario Bros. games
south mural
Apart from some collectibles but exploration and dungeon wise no guides
uneven hazel
bc they got pretty samey by the 7th one
but like the 3D Zelda formula worked
Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess are both beasts of games
uneven hazel
I mean yeah but that's literally changing the formula lmao
2D>3D
as in 2D becomes 3D
still atlas
3D land though felt like more of the same as 2D
So there's gotta be something else there
A special touch
Which I can say is the same for a Link Between Worlds
It's got that special touch
south mural
Wall merging is a based mechanic
uneven hazel
I think one of my favourite things about totk
Is the South West labyrinth
Where you get to the very top and it's like
"Have courage to throw yourself down to the depths
So you jump and just admire the fall
For about 15 seconds before you slam face first into a floating island bc it isn't a straight drop lmao
junior pilot
In BotW I did all shrines and side quests and found enough Koroks to maximize my inventory. I finished that game after 120 hours.
Today I reached the same amount of hours in TotK and I'm not even close to being done with this game. I just finished the third of the four main quests.
south mural
In BotW I did all shrines and side quests and found enough Koroks to maximize my...
One shrine for each hour lol
naive imp
Ganon tried killing me (or flirting with me based on a long running joke) in my dream last night. I think that's a sign I need to finish TOTK.
south mural
Final boss spoilers: you get to have tea time with him ala 3 houses and if you mess up a text prompt you’re immediately thrown into the fight with him
naive imp
...I might be able to pull that off
south mural
‘Compliment Ganondorf on his…’
-His abs
-Fighting style
-His nose
naive imp
-Abs
sturdy flint
still atlas
‘Compliment Ganondorf on his…’
-His abs
-Fighting style
-His nose
-his charming smile
sly shadow
not posting this here to start an argument or anything but I like this channel and I think this video speaks to a lot of good criticisms in a level-headed and honest way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiIfnG1XTSc
sturdy flint
NERREL VIDEO SPOTTED
Absolutely checking this out when I can
Nerrel goated (thank you Irri)
primal yacht
Interesting, I just watched it and I think I agree with most of his points. I played it largely for the story, and I think now that I've finished, I don't really feel a lot of motivation to keep going. There are some cool reasons to I think, I still want to play with the mechanics a bit more, but I definitely don't feel the same motivation to explore.
I do think the defining factor is that Breath of the Wild was just a little more polished than TotK.
I definitely enjoyed TotK a lot more than Nerrel did apparently though
south mural
Yeah you can see I mowed through the main story in like a week and after taht I’ve taken a step back
Honestly a lot of exploration comes from shrine hunting or depths exploring
For me
vague path
That's why I knocked out all the shrines and lightroots before I beat the game
While I do want to give TOTK another go, I don't really want to play it in normal mode again like I did with BOTW after I beat that.
There are things I could do, but nothing is what I'd consider "essential" that is left for me in my save file.
vernal oracle
Nerrel is a great channel, and has a really good way of articulating things people normally disagree with in a way both parties understand.
honestly i LOVED TOTK, but nerrel's video helped me see a lot of the (now obvious) flaws of the game
i'd also reccomend his videos on gyro
vague path
I'm just glad there are people on the platform now that are sharing some of their criticisms of the game
When it came out it was just like "best game ever" "10/10" "masterpiece" and if you said anything else it wasn't recieved well
Which, I do understand
Especially since hype is super profitable
mild oasis
i'd also reccomend his videos on gyro
what would the gaming arguments guy know about food
vernal oracle
gyro controls
barren geode
i would like to discuss areas of TotK which I think should be expanded upon
its an overall great game, but I feel like some smaller parts of it could have been done better
barren geode
the things that could be improved:
||Dream Home|| (Tarrey Town)
||Village Rebuilding|| (Lurelin Village)
the combat
placid flume
Possible DLC tomorrow
placid flume
Maybe the same amount as BOTW
vague path
2-3
uneven hazel
Zero
barren geode
two to three is a good estimate, honestly I would hope it comes out all at once
uneven hazel
I'll be taking my winnings now thanks
barren geode
I'll be taking my winnings now thanks
we said nothing about them being announced now
you get no winnings yet
uneven hazel
this is uh
technically a spoiler for the final memory
but it's mostly me poking the mods with a stick
sly shadow
uhhhhhhh--
agile ledge
lmao
junior pilot
does the ||earthquake|| ability you get at the ||yiga hideout|| have any practical uses? it seems weak and annoying to activate.
uneven hazel
it serves to remind you if you don't have a weapon equipped
vague path
Maybe you can use it to break environmental stuff without using weapon endurance
or like stalkoblins
primal yacht
I think it's mostly just a fun little thingy
south mural
Maybe you can use it to break environmental stuff without using weapon endurance
Yeah it’s an efficient albeit slow way of mining ores
still atlas
does the ||earthquake|| ability you get at the ||yiga hideout|| have any practic...
It's fun to give them a piece of their own medicine
junior pilot
i already tried mining ores but it takes several hits to break one. hitting it with a stone weapon is much faster.
barren geode
i already tried mining ores but it takes several hits to break one. hitting it w...
proving grounds shrines
i think
could be wrong
split rover
||Best obliteration of Ganondorf I've seen yet. Though I wonder how much of Hyrule would be wiped out if he went off at ground level.||
sly shadow
||me when big explosion
(i love big explosions with all my heart especially ones like that where it almost charges up for a split second)||
barren geode
||Best obliteration of Ganondorf I've seen yet. Though I wonder how much of Hyru...
||detonated a nuclear bomb||
primal yacht
||My honest first reaction when I saw that was "Woo we saved Hyrule! Ope nevermind there's no more Hyrule.||
agile ledge
WHAT is that head
south mural
I read somewhere that the zonai use dragons, owls and boars to represent courage, wisdom and power respectively
south mural
||Finally, furry link||
||you can see that on the …. loincloth||
south mural
I found every light root now 😭😭
south mural
I have almost every legacy outfit set, just missing one or two pieces
The Wild set is the only one with a pattern on where they’re found afaik
In the great skeletons in the depths (corresponding with the surface ones)
cerulean crater
I am coming in here to say the ||Construct Factory|| music has taken over my brain and I want to inject it into my ears physically. I’m so glad I didn’t hear it OOC it’s so beautiful and ethereal I can’t stand it
Okay and now I leave again whoosh
Spoilers are a Depths location btw!!
naive imp
south mural
naive imp
chilly cipher
loooool
shy field
I just realized that the Zonaite Bow has (Main Story)||the helmets of the Sages|| on it. That's pretty neat.
copper pilot
Woo. After completing all the shrines 225 hours in, I decided to finally take on the final boss and beat the game. That was incredible.
And I'm still not done with the game. There are still many more things left for me to do (koroks, bubbulfrogs, clothing upgrades, wells, Hyrule compendium, etc.)
split rover
I have pretty much everything except paraglider fabrics as I don't have all the amiibo that give you one. But for achieving 100% I don't consider it a requirement.
mild oasis
totk's refusal to acknowledge botw was so weird
like, you could technically make the argument that they aren't in the same world
like we know they are but
so much of botw was just not present in totk
it's just bizarre to me
barren geode
hoping the dlc fixes this
copper pilot
I'm assuming that TotK happens several years after BotW, and all of that remained of the Sheikah technology (towers, shrines, guardians, divine beasts), was either buried or was used to make the skyview towers in the new game. And every NPC seemed to forget about Link, except some key ones, and also the Zoras. And the events of the calamity didn't concern a lot of the NPCs.
Still, they couldn't have just explored every corner of the world to find every piece of the Sheikah technology, right? There must at least be some ruins left somewhere, like the Shrine of Resurrection.
And regarding the NPCs, we know that Zelda travelled everywhere in Hyrule after the events of BotW, thanks to the different NPC interactions, and Link must have been with Zelda all this time, because he's her appointed knight. So at least people should remember a knight being with her. And the four species appointed to control the divine beast should remember the calamity and how they lost their champions. But it seems like they're only honoured as statues (Daruk and Mipha) as names for places (Revali's landing site) or in a diary (Urbosa).
south mural
I think the common theory is that all the shiekah tech were repurposed into the sky towers
vague path
It bothers me that they never provided an explanation for why much of the sheikah tech was seemingly deleted from the universe
We can ofc speculate and I'm sure some people prefer it that way even
But to me it just feels so, so underwhelming
placid flume
i mean some people (myself included) have actually found like guardian ruins
they are basically scathered in a few area in the map and they are basically mossified
vague path
Yes, there are a few but they are the ancient ones from BOTW
placid flume
Yes, there are a few but they are the ancient ones from BOTW
you mean like the ones from the cutscenes that take place 100 years before BOTW?
vague path
Yeah, since all of them originated from that
well more specifically there are no new ruins is what I'm trying to say
placid flume
oh
vague path
In the sense that it might provide new context to what happened to them
placid flume
my theory overall as to why they straight up got rid of all Sheikah tech is two things really
one it was reused for stuff like the towers
you know the hands that like give link that pack so that he can go up and use the Purah Pad for scanning the map
and the other is simply they dont wanna deal with another minor inconvenience that was all of the guardians attacking everybody after being possessed by Ganon
vague path
Decent theories, though it just rubs me the wrong way that the game itself treats them like they almost never existed - they might as well just be in a different timeline from BOTW that had some other tech in its place.
copper pilot
I do find it weird that they erased all traces of BOTW events without giving us an explanation. But I guess the NPCs in this game, mainly the ones who were the most involved with the events of BOTW, are too focused on the Upheaval, so it's not so much a big deal for me.
Though out of all the NPCs, Purah probably could have given us a clue about that when you first meet her after the Upheaval happened. She did spend some time talking about the skyview towers.
placid flume
Speaking of Guardians
placid flume
I was running around in Death Mountain and i found one of the dragons in the sky
And now
placid flume
I have done pretty much 3 of the 5 sages
I just run around and do shrines and things in the overworld
copper pilot
There are indeed a lot to do in this game
naive imp
Came up with a terrible idea
I'm getting closer and closer to Ganon, but I'm having a hard time with armor upgrades. Should I just go through the buildup to the fight with armor on then fight him in the archaic clothes?
sly shadow
would likely be very hard with just archaic clothes but upgrading armour isn't necessary for the fight
just make sure you compensate by bringing a lot of specifically ||gloom resistant|| food
south mural
And PSA master sword can deflect any of ganon’s projectiles
Anything that’s not a direct attack can be deflected
copper pilot
You're basically playing tennis again
uneven hazel
I want to smash the Demon King naked
naive imp
mild oasis
you know you could have at least made it an innuendo
maybe try to do a little veiling
pale knot
Hey, @naive imp if you can upgrade all your armor
naive imp
?
pale knot
That way you can be stronger and take on the final boss
barren geode
the miner's armor is fairly easy to upgrade
if you only want the defense boosts, I recommend going for that
i was wearing miner armor for the fight
placid flume
Ganondorf stood no chance against me
naive imp
Does anyone have any silly clips of them using vehicles in TOTK? I want to make a video but don't have enough clips on my own
(Posting this here too)
south mural
Took me a while but I finally found all the legacy link costumes
Link looks great in the OoT and TP fit
vague path
||https://twitter.com/ZeldaLuverr/status/1694490558197015026|| Great Sky Island prologue scene spoilers
just another example of how TOTK doesn't completely fit with BOTW ig
copper pilot
I don't think it's a plot hole in the grand scheme of things. I think that ||Fi stopped talking because the Master Sword has defeated Calamity Ganon and is slowly regenerating.|| In another cutscene in TOTK (spoilers for Korok Forest quest), ||we see Link and Zelda visiting the Great Deku Tree to draw the sword again right before the Upheaval and the events of TOTK's prologue under Hyrule Castle, indicating that the Master Sword was healing and gaining strength between the events of BOTW and TOTK, to inevitably face the next manifestation of Ganon. If we look at the cutscenes in BOTW and TOTK, it seems that Fi only speaks when the hero and the sword itself are facing a great threat.||
junior pilot
i got the shit
sly shadow
.>
maronus....samen?
also you got them all?
when you said you'd complete totk i thought you mean just the main story not all of it
junior pilot
"just the main story" lmao
next goal: all bosses in the depths.
time to kill some frogs
sly shadow
split rover
Imagine being a completionist type of Zelda player. Couldn't be me. 
south mural
i got the shit
In English that would be a very bad word if a few letters were moved around
naive imp
You'd have to replace a letter
junior pilot
i finished upgrading all armor to 4 stars.
in completely unrelated news i am going to update my game now.
south mural
So I’ve just more realised this
||zelda consuming the secret stone turns her into a dragon||
So
It is plausible
||Farosh, Dinraal and Naydra could’ve consumed a tear at some point||
“Bitch get off my throne”
copper pilot
||Farosh, Dinraal and Naydra could’ve consumed a tear at some point||
That's what most people theorize. ||They could be the three goddesses that possess the three pieces of the triforce and at some point they became human, and then they became dragons. Remember that the actual triforce is nowhere to be seen in this game.||
junior pilot
all shrines, all roots, all koroks, all caves, all wells, all armor, all bosses, all quests, all signs, all schematics, all maps, all sage wills, all recipes, almost all glider fabrics and almost all compendium entries (still need a picture of ganondorf)
it's been 4 months since release and 240 hours of playtime, almost exactly twice my botw playtime.
i can't believe i'm going to beat this game tomorrow. what am i supposed to do after that?
naive imp
take a selfie
mild oasis
all shrines, all roots, all koroks, all caves, all wells, all armor, all bosses,...
do it again but this time in dutch
uneven hazel
you can get loads of pictures of Ganondorf online by typing 'Rule 34 Ganondorf' into your search bar
mild oasis
sly shadow
uneven hazel
listen consider yoursels lucky I stopped short of posting a link
junior pilot
idk how many i'm missing but 0.89% can't be a lot
uneven hazel
do depths and sky count
I'm saying that as if I'll have any further suggestions either way
junior pilot
yea any location that has a name.
i just found two bridges i never visited and it went up to 99.23%
since i collected literally everything else that has a map icon i guess i'm missing about 10 more locations
junior pilot
two passages in hyrule castle and another random bridge.
up to 99.43% now.
the rest should be in the depths.
sly shadow
