You bet your ass I'm pulling for ||Boothill|| though...
#Honkai: Star Rail
oak hollow
Imagine that without a good sustain...
That sounds like torture
He'd get mowed down
*against a large group of enemies
Or was it only one?
finite mason
||He sets up a duel with 1 enemy||
||Lowers both his and their DEF for only each other's attacks I think||
||It's supposed to emulate like pistols at sunset||
oak hollow
||Yikes, pretty extreme. It'd be really unfortunate for the enemies if shields existed for player units||
finite mason
's about right
oak hollow
high geode
One star short of full starring this MoC. What a terrible, terrible boss for cycle based gameplay.
languid jackal
Aventurine
finite mason
One star short of full starring this MoC. What a terrible, terrible boss for cyc...
Could’ve stopped after “boss…”
high geode
Nah, pretty much any boss, even with multiple phases, I can handle. I mean the normal in story version I killed in like 4 turns.
But with MoC hp and speed bloating every other turn is mad gambling, and since he can’t take damage during that it just wastes so many turns. I can’t imagine how I would 5 cycle that. I could do it with virtually any other boss in the game.
I had multiple cycles where he literally wasn’t available for hitting because his MoC speed upgrade would cause him to go twice before I go once.
I could less than 5 cycle with my Jing Yuan team but the likelihood the fight goes in a way for that to be possible is slim to none.
distant silo
Might've progress a bit too fast and now 2.1 boss is kicking my butt lmao
distant silo
||god i hate this fight so much atm. Why the fck does he use that gamble thing so much in phase 2??? My Acheron died to it because she hit 3 targets for 8 points and it wasn't enough because it was 9 points to hit||
oak hollow
||god i hate this fight so much atm. Why the fck does he use that gamble thing s...
||Definitely gonna need a support healer/shielder for your team. If you can't outlast the dice... Bring units with shields or aoe ults if you have them.||
distant silo
||Definitely gonna need a support healer/shielder for your team. If you can't ou...
||I ran Acheron/March/Gallagher/Pela but it wasn't enough bc at one point March died and then so did Gallagher lol. But tbf i'm behind on traces, relics and light cone levels||
oak hollow
||You got caught lacking on your builds 💀 you can't have that in this boss||
languid jackal
||god i hate this fight so much atm. Why the fck does he use that gamble thing s...
Lmao that happened to me too, hitting 3 dice and still not making is peak gambling experience
I hope y'all are caught up with the story, new drip marketing is spoiler central
oak hollow
Based
distant silo
I have E4 Luka, all I want is a single Lynx. I can't beat Pure Fiction Stage 2 yet 
distant silo
Might've progress a bit too fast and now 2.1 boss is kicking my butt lmao
update: ||beat the boss. Replacing march with Serval to avoid getting hit in the 2nd gamble phase helped a lot||
languid jackal
Yippeeee
pure whale
She’s…she’s beautiful
pure whale
Ratio getting to benefit from my Aventurine brain rot
oak hollow
Tell me your secrets
pure whale
Been good about doing my artifact grind during the bonus drop
oak hollow
Makes sense
pure whale
Tbf this is the best (only usable) piece I’ve gotten after hours of grind
oak hollow
Aventurine will never be debuffed at this rate
finite mason
World's strongest Pela
oak hollow
59 attack on Pela is crazy-
Who builds attack on her at all?
Also I am a little concerned
DPS Pela is very cursed
finite mason
59 attack on Pela is crazy-
~~Who builds attack on her at all?~~
I had 0 Energy Recharge ropes and I hate farming the not Spiral Abyss
oak hollow
Ah yes
The infamous curse
Of farming for the rarest stat
I am also currently in relic hell.
I scrapped all my extra watchmaker's relic set for exp for Acheron's set and forgot it was the best set for Harmony TB
Also, a 4star lightcone is also the best for her for what I've seen
Super nice
oak hollow
The guitar hero controller for the shred is so real
oak hollow
||It's so over, unfortunately||
||Unless Pela has energy Regen rope||
||Then skill and hope she survives||
||You get your ult back for free if you do||
I just realized that this is an HOUR ago
My notifications are slow af
pure whale
genuinely so upsetting this was first try too
I think I was just lucky with my team when I fought this one. I had already pulled Aven, and just put him on my Kafka, Sampo, Guinaifen DoT team.
languid jackal
Get it twisted, you WILL roll well next time
Seriously though, those are rigged for sure, there have been times I've used Acheron's skill on 3 dice and still lost
oak hollow
I mean
If they truly are just random
Then it's absolutely possible (and somewhat likely) for you to lose
In phase 2, I think he starts at 6 or above.
Actually nevermind
It's 3AM
I know what the math behind figuring this out is
But I'm absolutely going to mess it up
Basically, at 3 dice, you have a very high chance of getting somewhere around a 6, and this chance drops both for lower and higher numbers.
It's a bell curve, essentially
languid jackal
I know how it works, I was just complaining that I seem to lose the gamble more often thatn not
oak hollow
Ah
visual cliff
(idk if this is a spoiler)
|| https://twitter.com/HannyahZ/status/1788518065052786751?t=4dP21XmSfMOGqtZZBJkyWQ&s=19 ||
Twitter
i can feel myself slowly drifting towards the dark side....
visual cliff
no... i swore i would never play a hoyoverse game... the gacha...
oak hollow
Full send play it, the early game is actually very free to play friendly.
You get so many rewards from events that you can reasonably pull for characters on almost every banner.
I know this is true because I did it when I first started out.
That said, the game will require you to start putting in some investment once you start hitting higher levels
visual cliff
do you mean like doing dailies or forfeiting your wallet
oak hollow
I mean like doing dailies
Which takes like five minutes LMAO
You can reasonably do all of them basically immediately upon logging in.
But also, I mean investment as in character building too
oak hollow
You are not prepared for the level of goof and heart this game has
Also, it's so chock-full of memes and references I don't even think anyone can count them all.
(Please don't try it, you'll be stuck)
oak hollow
(idk if this is a spoiler)
|| https://twitter.com/HannyahZ/status/17885180650527...
Also, this post is extremely ironic considering most people I've seen discussing the game appreciate how completely off-the rails this is.
It's borderline encouraged by this point, most people get a good laugh at it.
languid jackal
I'm fine with meme options, but I'm not a fan of all options being meme/funny options
oak hollow
Valid point
carmine copper
as said in many of the replies to this post
the reason the localisation is the way it is, is because the original chinese text is also full of memes lmao
oak hollow
LMAO
Wow, that's hilarious
So it's literally intended
HSR truly is the most (seriously) (un)serious game ever
carmine copper
do you mean like doing dailies or forfeiting your wallet
hop on Europe server please god I need people
idk why I replied to that message in particular but whatever
oak hollow
Also I don't know if I want to go back.
I'd lose so much character and build-wise (but also be in a way better spot now that I actually know what to do).
What are you stuck on? I'd be happy to help.a
visual cliff
a
carmine copper
oh no I don't need any specific help I just have no friends on Europe server that actively play the game anymore
visual cliff
if i decide to play honkai i will play on europe
carmine copper
visual cliff
but don't count on me being too active
distant silo
oh no I don't need any specific help I just have no friends on Europe server tha...
I can add you, i started about a month ago or so and still play, or at least try to play daily
whenever i'm bored in class
pure whale
hop on Europe server please god I need people
Hop on NA servers and get the use of my E2 Aventurine or E1 Luocha. I love supporting my friends so hard
Oh also I have 100% the Space Station and Belobog I Stan Numby
carmine copper
I'm barely catching up to the story on EU server 😭
I think once ZZZ comes out I might just go on NA servers
it's stupid that they're still seperated
distant silo
Got some star rail merch from the con's artist alley today
pure whale
Omg Kafka 
distant silo
my biggest gripe with star rail so far are all those fights where the boss spawns tons of adds that just perma buff the boss. And the game has too many of them
oak hollow
Let me think
That list so far includes...
||Gepard, Silvermane Captain, Cocolia + Bronya, Cocolia alone (iirc, getting frozen or hit by her ice pillars gives her a stack of dmg boost), that one Mara struck boss that heals upon hitting you, both versions of the Swarm, Argenti, the IPC Representatives, and the Embryo of Philosophy||
Oh, I forgot one
The Aurumaton Guardian doesn't buff itself but it DOES spawn enemies to debuff you.
distant silo
it is..a lot of enemies
also 2.2 minor spoils: ||i just found out you can talk no jutsu argenti so you don't have to fight him||
distant silo
same
oak hollow
This has the same vibe as Xianzhiu spoilers ||that one Kafka scene where she asks you not to just fight the enemies||
pure whale
also 2.2 minor spoils: ||i just found out you can talk no jutsu argenti so you d...
I did this on accident!!! Lmao
languid jackal
You could avoid Argenti?? Damn I wish I had known, it took me a few tries to beat him
oak hollow
Persona 5
distant silo
kinda, yes
oak hollow
distant silo
finally convinced my friends to start HSR
one of them gets Robin on their first pull
distant silo
that was my question as well
finite mason
||https://x.com/tdinhphung/status/1789301901118611707?s=46 || 2.2 spoilers I guess?
Twitter
languid jackal
one of them gets Robin on their first pull
It do be like that sometimes...
When my gf started playing Genshin her literal first pull in the beginner banner was Keqing
finite mason
Latest version spoilers but also I haven’t finished it yet
||I wrapped up the cutscene where Robin, Welt, and Sunday meet with the Dreammaster and the whole bit about the aeon, but I’m confused. Robin explains what to the Dreammaster what the villain’s exact plan is with the song during the festival, but I don’t remember hearing about it up until that point. Did I miss it?||
oak hollow
Response to you, Epsi:
||Probably not, since that's a really important detail. Robin was considered dead for a grand majority of 2.0 and 2.1. it's very likely that you just now heard it from her. Even so, Penacony is so confusing that it's extremely easy to miss details. So it also could have happened.||
finite mason
Response to you, Epsi:
||Probably not, since that's a really important detail. R...
You’re right about that…
||I’m still trying to understand Aventurine’s plan alone because my friends are acting like he’s the second coming of Christ because of it and I just don’t see it||
oak hollow
||I’m still trying to understand Aventurine’s plan alone because my friends are ...
I kid you not, I only fully understand his motivation for why he did what he did in the way that he did it.
I'm guessing but: ||I think the IPC wants Penacony to go back to its original state for certain reasons (maybe because of its former status? I can't remember if they previously owned it or not.) and they assigned Aventurine to do it. And then Aventurine did it in the most over-the-top and risky way possible to expose the lies in the Dreamscape for everyone else. And... Also just to see if he could meet his family.||
finite mason
I kid you not, I only fully understand his motivation for why he did what he did...
||Over the top indeed, I tried working out the steps in my head and I still don’t quite follow||
||So in order to do… whatever in the Dreamscape he needs to bring his stone with him, but the Family knows this and wouldn’t let him bring it in, confiscating it on entry. Makes sense even though I’m just now realizing the transaction of these stones occurs within the Dreamscape and not reality, which makes things even more confusing||
||So with that in mind he hides a second stone in a monetary gift for the Family, and lets Ratio in on his plan for… reasons. I forget exactly what benefit Ratio provides him. He plans to trick Sunday into giving it to him, despite not knowing that that gift was what Sunday would’ve given him back when he asked for money or that the bag would even be in the room they meet in||
||Ratio fills Sunday in on this beforehand, but being aware of this Aventurine has a plan C, which is to make Sunday think he’s won so he can get his real stone which is… just lying around in the dreamscape for some reason…||
||And in the end Aventurine succeeds in proving… what? ||
||People can die in Penacomy? Apparently the Family covers that up super easily because no one is actively freaking out about the big red slash in the sky, and on top of that none of the people thought to have died up to that point even did die||
So wtf
||And what was with the giving out a bunch of money in his fugue state?||
oak hollow
||Yeah, I don't know what was up with that. I think he was giving away gems though. I thought those were pieces of a cornerstone that he smashed, since there was mention of it. I don't know about his plan to reveal death in the Dreamscape anymore though. Technically, all he really did was expose Acheron to the people who were there since he didn't truly die. Technically, his death was far more different than anyone else's up to that point as well. Maybe his original plan was simply to actually take out close to everyone but was stopped by Acheron? I really don't know. The first thing he did ask her was essentially 'is this the afterlife', after all...||
finite mason
||As an aside if any of this gets answered by the rest of this patch don’t tell me, I just figured Aventurine was written out of Penacony at this point||
oak hollow
||It doesn't, it only gets more off the walls||
finite mason
||I feel like there was a way this story could’ve been written in which it made sense||
||This ain’t it though||
||Doesn’t help that it’s wicked unclear what the dreamscape rules are||
oak hollow
||I feel like there was a way this story could’ve been written in which it made ...
||It just went by in a blink-and-you-miss-it fashion. It's way faster-paced and more detail heavy than Belobog and the Xianzhou combined. Therefore, much harder to understand.||
||It's honestly akin to a detective's case. If you truly want to understand ANYTHING, you have to be meticulous about the details. Just... To an extreme degree. Just take notes from now on>||
finite mason
||If I have to take notes to get the bare minimum understanding of the story in… well really anything, then it probably could’ve used a second pass||
oak hollow
||Tbh, I can't tell whether or not this is a good thing. I just started trying to keep track of as many details as I could. That helped (somewhat). I feel that was done intentionally though. Even the characters were confused through 50% of everything going down. They spent almost their entire time guessing too.||
finite mason
||So with that in mind he hides a second stone in a monetary gift for the Family...
||Oh other thing about Aventurine’s plan I forgot to mention regarding this. In order for everything to fall into place Sunday has to believe he has Aventurine fully figured out, which means he’ll have understood the plan as everything up to that point, but with Aventurine’s money bluff working. But again, Aventurine just asked for money. Sunday could’ve given him any source of money, and it would’ve been even more likely for him to give him money that wasn’t sourced from the gift they received. Then if Aventurine pressed more for the gift he’d brought back, that’d make Sunday suspicious||
languid jackal
||I think he specifically asked to have the bag with the money back||
||Also regarding Ratio, getting him involved was important to arrange the betrayal scene so that Sunday felt like he had totally won||
finite mason
||I think he specifically asked to have the bag with the money back||
||Yeah that’s kind of suspicious by itself, don’t you think?||
||Like yeah lemme just get that package I gifted you back when you know my goal is to smuggle an item through here||
languid jackal
||With the knowledge we have maybe, but I don't think the way he did it was too suspicious. It was kinda like "well, you got me... can I at least have the rest of my stuff back?"||
finite mason
||Fair it may be hindsight bias in that regard, but it’s still a security risk if that gift hadn’t undergone any clearance||
||Which… I don’t see why a bag being gifted to a high profile person like Sunday wouldn’t have been carefully inspected first but that’s more a nitpick than anything||
visual cliff
Before I start Honkai I just have one question
Is there actually a character called Dr. Ratio
languid jackal
||Which… I don’t see why a bag being gifted to a high profile person like Sunday...
||IIRC it wasn't gifted, the hotel security confiscated Aventurine's stuff||
oak hollow
||Understanding literally anything about this plan is like untying a big knot. It shouldn't seem that hard and it really isn't but it's incredibly easy to become confused.||
distant silo
🙃
out of all the characters, I get him a 2nd time. It's not like there are 7 other characters I could've gotten
distant silo
getting Qiqi'd HSR version
finite mason
||IIRC it wasn't gifted, the hotel security confiscated Aventurine's stuff||
||That’s even more suspicious||
distant silo
It's Genshin all over again
oak hollow
Pain
pure whale
Worse than Genshin is using a bunch of expensive mats to create a perfect Imaginary DMG piece and have it roll in to flat HP 4 times
oak hollow
I remember tossing out a relic that rolled ATK (not %) 3 times and then EHF the rest
Such a shame
Really sucks that the relics are so much more important in this game
The stat checks hit hard
Especially in MoC
languid jackal
It also sucks that there are more "dead" stats like EHR and BE (for your average crit scaling characters anyway)
oak hollow
BE is actually a pretty good stat now that HMC is out
But only if you have enough of it
Also, what's the Genshin equivalent of most of these stats?
ATK, def, HP are obvious
But the rest?
pure whale
There’s no equivalent to effects. It’s atk, hp, def, x damage up, crit stats. Elemental Mastery is really the only unique to Genshin one
pure whale
Yeah. You could say it makes your odds of getting a decent piece in Genshin a little better
oak hollow
BE, EHR, ERR, ER
oak hollow
Yeah. You could say it makes your odds of getting a decent piece in Genshin a li...
Significantly better, I'd argue
That's almost double the stats
Also, Genshin has a free inventory slot
pure whale
Tbh because it’s a 5-piece system, you are allowed one piece to be off set which drives me crazy in star rail
Yeah
Like, wow! This crazy good CD body that I CANT USE BECAUSE WHO USES THIS SET OTHER THAN SUPPORTS WHO DONT NEED CRIT DAMAGE
oak hollow
"Just combine the 2-piece sets, it's close enough to what you'll need anyway"
pure whale
HOYO
languid jackal
Like, wow! This crazy good CD body that I CANT USE BECAUSE WHO USES THIS SET OTH...
You just know the second you trash it they'll announce a crit scaling support
oak hollow
Like, wow! This crazy good CD body that I CANT USE BECAUSE WHO USES THIS SET OTH...
This made me laugh harder than it should have.
I remember trying to get crit rate on Bronya since I already started stacking crit damage
I was very stupid
oak hollow
You just know the second you trash it they'll announce a crit scaling support
The only crit scaling supports so far are Bronya and Sparkle
So glad it's not anyone else
Wait.
I just looked up a chart and Quantum has one of the weakest break damage.
Alongside Imaginary.
I thought it was higher, at least at max stacks.
languid jackal
Ye the initial break damage is lower to compensate for the delay and the extra damage from entanglement
finite mason
It also sucks that there are more "dead" stats like EHR and BE (for your average...
I’m glad those stats are helpful for a lot of supports at least
oak hollow
Ye the initial break damage is lower to compensate for the delay and the extra d...
Ah, action delay.
I'm going to have fun building break effect Welt
finite mason
Like you get an artifact in Genshin with sub stats DEF %, DEF flat, EM and you’re like “nobody’s ever gonna use this”
That said both systems still suck
finite mason
Give us a was to choose substats somehow
I’m convinced they keep it terrible to keep people logging in every day
Getting good artifacts/relics is an endless endeavor
pure whale
Welcome
visual cliff
This may be a mistake
finite mason
It’s a gacha so… yeah
oak hollow
I’m convinced they keep it terrible to keep people logging in every day
Honestly might be the case
But Pure Fiction/MoC is already hard enough.
People (myself included) love the Simulated Universe
Conundrum is so impossibly difficult that I'd love to see how far just well-built characters and your average strategy can take them
(Essentially just Swarm Disaster but if it was actually fair and not Gold and Gears)
Apocalyptic Shadow, based on leaks, seems like an absolutely insane boss rush type of mode
There's stuff here that will keep people playing.
Tbh, grinding relics every day makes it far less appealing and not fun to stick to.
Sucks even more that they always limit the amount of triple/double relics you can get in a day for people who save their TP for that event specifically.
All this to say
Please fix the relic system
I wouldn't even be mad if they had a cavern that gave us a material we could spend to choose which substat is upgraded for a relic.
At least then, we could grind that every day anyway and have the same RNG relic system
That alone would be infinitely better and I don't think anyone would be complaining.
Even better if it used elite enemies since not all of them can be fought in the Cavern of Corrosion anyway
distant silo
It's Genshin all over again
Fun fact: the second one was made with relic crafting and i even used the item to choose the stat :D
oak hollow
Most people wouldn't even worry about building their characters properly anyway since:
- In the early game, there is no reason to really focus on building your characters. You can't even grind out relics (nor do you have to) until pretty far into the story.
- Once you do have access to grinding relics, it's not that big of a difference to just putting on whatever you find lying around. Substats really don't matter either, so you can go main stat fishing and be perfectly fine (I know this because both me and my brother have this game and both played it that way until TBL 30).
- Once you hit TBL 30, you can start 'consistently' getting 4* relics and only then do those start to matter + substats, to a minor degree. But you can still get by pretty easily with what you have easy access to. This is where most characters get stuck because you usually already have a team or two dedicated to beating all the challenges you've come across. You don't have access to any 'endgame' by then either.
- Only at TBL 40 is there a huge jump in difficulty and you're really expected to start having and using at least 4* relics. 5* relics start to become increasingly more necessary the further along you go from there. By this point, any characters you haven't used or kept up-to-date with their builds probably aren't going to get used by that point -- until you do start tackling endgame and they suddenly start becoming necessary thanks to stage buffs. In which case most people will get tired of trying to suddenly keep their characters up to date and stop because it's a big task trying to get their builds to be 'usable' for the stage.
I keep forgetting Discord actually has formatting for lists now.
oak hollow
Fun fact: the second one was made with relic crafting and i even used the item t...
That's extremely painful and I can only appologize for the atrocity that is relic rng.
distant silo
it continues
finite mason
Twitter
high geode
Penacony is the longest walk for the shortest drink of water in terms of storytelling and I just cannot get behind it.
Also by far the most egregious method to acquire Trailblazer eidolons of any planet thus far that I will not forgive anytime soon.
visual cliff
I have played this game for like an hour
and already i'm getting hsr art in my twitter timeline
https://vxtwitter.com/szafiraka/status/1791202893913071701?t=hESgzbVmyMoAa5sYGBstZg&s=19
languid jackal
... keep cooking
oak hollow
Also by far the most egregious method to acquire Trailblazer eidolons of any pla...
I spent two hours running around finding as much treasure and doing as many puzzles as I could.
Only went to five levels
I'm pretty sure you have to 100%
high geode
Friend of mine has level 50 statue. I don't know how many birds and side missions he colelcted, but he did get every single chest in penacony
Normally I wouldn't care, but considering E4, the whole point of using Harmony MC, is locked behind it
oak hollow
He found every single chest?
Wtf
Also, I'm starting to think it actually is just 100% Penacony that gives it to you
I thought I was at statue level 35 before but it was actually 32.
1600 credits only brought me up three levels.
finite mason
The first really good Trailblazer and it’s that much of a pain, eh?
oak hollow
At least they're free...
finite mason
Maybe monetarily, but you’re not getting those bird hunting hours back
oak hollow
Note:
You can pay aideen tokens to the manager birds and they'll tell you where they are
finite mason
That’s true
oak hollow
Unfortunately, that doesn't help me at all because I don't even know where to get the rewards for it
LMAO
finite mason
Incredible
oak hollow
I must say, this game truly has the level up system of all time
finite mason
Unrelated note I think I started play at around 9:00 PM today? Jumped on the story at idk 9:30? At that point I was ||At the entrance of the theater Sunday asks you to meet him at for your fair fight||
||After dying to the final final boss for the second time at 1:30 AM I called it quits out of anger for the night||
This story is so goddamn long
oak hollow
Yes, it is surprisingly difficult.
finite mason
The second one I take less credit for losing
||They had me thinking that Robin popping in put all your characters to full health, so I played the second one less safe assuming if anyone died they’d be revived||
||Unfortunately the game only revives your characters that are still standing…||
||First one I lost to bad RNG, lost healing access at a critical moment because of that damn debuff getting the 1/4 chance to hit the sustain and she didn’t resist||
Oh also a fun bit about that fight
||Did you know none of the cutscenes are skippable?||
||2024 and we still have unskippable cutscenes that play every time you lose a fight in a JRPG||
||That didn’t help my frustration…||
||I’ll check it again with a clearer mind tomorrow but man was that miserable||
oak hollow
||After dying to the *final* final boss for the second time at 1:30 AM I called ...
||Ignoring damage for a second, if you're having trouble defeating the boss, I actually recommended building Serval with BE rope, SPD, and LDB. She gets her ult so quickly that you can spam it easily. Doing that with Super Break makes up for the lower damage. Alternatively, could use ERR rope and spam ults even faster but I'm pretty sure the BE is better than faster ults. You won't need the shield if you can keep up with weakness break requirements.||
oak hollow
||Did you know none of the cutscenes are skippable?||
||Are you sure? I thought the cutscenes leading up to that fight are skippable. The only ones that aren't (to my knowledge) are Robin's when she first shows up in the fight and the part where you walk as TB to Acheron to start the fight.||
distant silo
||Are you sure? I thought the cutscenes leading up to that fight *are* skippable...
||can confirm that you can skip the cutscenes. Had to do it a few times as well considering I died more than once to the boss||
oak hollow
||Ah, okay. I thought it was pretty weird that you couldn't skip. Glad to see the option is there. It'd be a pain if you couldn't, and also inconsistent with every other cutscene.||
languid jackal
||Did you know none of the cutscenes are skippable?||
Huh that's weird, usually in this game you can skip custcenes after having watched them once
Or at least I remember skipping everything after wiping to Argenti because I restarted to change my team
pure whale
Aventurine is just Honkai Zhongli and I no longer fear anything. Boss took me a bit but I survived my first try lmao. I also tried the very silly Ratio/Aven Golden Gears and won what a funny pair of guys
Truly just need a silver wolf and I’m running mono imaginary
oak hollow
Aventurine with Ratio and Topaz gives actually infinite shields
I could only imagine how powerful that would be with Preservation and Elation blessings
I'm very tempted to start putting imaginary damage boost orbs on Aventurine
Just to see how much it changes his damage output
oak hollow
This took way too long to get.
But she is finally MOC efficient
Also, I'm a bit curious
How good is E6 really?
An extra 2 hits doesn't seem like much
Especially since only the first hit gets the extra toughness break
languid jackal
Idk how good it is but more hits = more super break damage
oak hollow
That is true
finite mason
||Ah, okay. I thought it was pretty weird that you couldn't skip. Glad to see th...
||I meant the one during the fight, didn’t want to make the assumption that there was just the one||
oak hollow
||Ah, makes sense||
pure whale
I could only imagine how powerful that would be with Preservation and Elation bl...
Here’s a bit of what that’s like LOL
oak hollow
Yeah, it's gonna get crazy
oak hollow
I CAN confirm
All FUA team is very powerful
I love how my phone just absolutely hates running Gold and Gears though
Oh
The video is too large again
Uh
I can't believe all I had to do to get the video to work was half and crop it.
Also, I only did G&G III because I'm a coward and don't want to tackle G&G4 with a half-built Topaz and Ratio.
pure whale
Goofy team comp I love the fire emblem three houses lords
oak hollow
Wait, do they actually fit?
oak hollow
I was just looking back at the animations and I love how protective Topaz is of Numby.
Ignoring the fact that Numby puts on his best hedgehog impression for his attack, Topaz holding onto him in case he falls off her head is everything.
That's honestly adorable
high geode
Aventurine with Ratio and Topaz gives actually infinite shields
Ratio/Robin/Aventurine/Topaz. Aka team Rat. One of the strongest teams in the game.
oak hollow
Hm
oak hollow
Yeah, actually
That seems like the strongest
Jade team might be a little too risky
The moment Aventurine's shield fails, all your health would probably be drained
Based on leaks
pure whale
Your guys’ Aven shields fail? 😂
pure whale
My defense stat is a tad overkill but I’m waiting to see if I can wrangle an Imaginary Damage piece for him
oak hollow
5.4k
How TF
Lightcone
Wait how
I didn't realize you could get that much, holy moly
pure whale
Truly he only needs like 4000ish
But the shields…they are full all the time always LOL
distant silo
thank you hoyolab for showing me how lucky I was with my substats rolls
oak hollow
That is...
Unfortunate.
distant silo
Penacony sidequest with Chadwick ||man they really did an oppenheimer with this quest. Really felt sorry for the old man and I hate that they made us push the button. i really didn't want to||
oak hollow
||Don't worry, the Penacony side quests get worse (in terms of tugging at your heart)||
||Also, was I the only one who tried to repeatedly refuse to press the button? It took me a while before I realized it was required.||
oak hollow
Ngl, it had me tearing up for a second
distant silo
||holy shit the writes absolutely did not hold back on those quests. Lesley Dean and the Illusion of bond with a fictional person, Chadwick and the morality of Science and now Cocona and the consequences of societal pressure. I have one quest left which I do not feel ready for||
oak hollow
||The fact that I don't know which one it is means I haven't seen it yet and that is worrying me a little. They can't keep making it so depressing.||
distant silo
this one is the last of the bunch, maybe it's not as intensive as the others
oak hollow
I
What
When
How
It just gets more ridiculous
That Yamcha pose at the end is golden
I now want a minute and a half of my life back
It was well spent, but I will never live down watching this in its entirety 🤣
finite mason
It was well spent, but I will never live down watching this in its entirety 🤣
That’s about my feelings towards it
Anyway time to watch it again lol
craggy arrow
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finite mason
Penacony ||Wait I just realized is it called "Penacony" as in "Pentecost" like the Catholic tradition?||
||Also went and tried the final boss again, turns out it helps to not be doing it at 1 AM and actually pay attention to mechanics||
||Took the same party with only slight upgrades and it worked out||
oak hollow
||Nice work for beating the boss at not 1AM lmao||
oak hollow
Penacony ||Wait I just realized is it called "Penacony" as in "Pentecost" like t...
||Also, this may very well be true. That might honestly be the entire theme, especially revolving around Sunday.||
finite mason
||Also, this may very well be true. That might honestly be the entire theme, esp...
||There's also that cutscene where Sunday's doing a Confession service, which is another catholic thing||
||Although that one kinda came out of nowhere||
oak hollow
||I'm not going to lie, maybe it was trying to show that he's had to make difficult moral decisions or got tired of having everyone go to him to get rid of their issues||
languid jackal
Anyone else getting this thing? lmao
oak hollow
||He definitely seemed like he was getting tired of it during that cutscene||
Oh yeah, I've been seeing that the past few days
finite mason
||I'm not going to lie, maybe it was trying to show that he's had to make diffic...
||Oh I know it contributed to his motivation but like... why tf was he doing a confession service?||
oak hollow
Unfortunately, I can't run HSR on the laptop I have.
finite mason
||Is he a priest of the Harmony or something?||
oak hollow
So the reward is useless for me
finite mason
||Do people worship the Harmony instead of just following their path? Is there a church in Penacony somewhere?||
||The closest thing we've seen to aeon worship up to this point has been the emenators||
oak hollow
||Is he a priest of the Harmony or something?||
||He was probably pretending to be one. Or maybe he thought that's what the Harmony needed instead of literally just following the path normally. Then again... He also never followed the Harmony in the first place.||
finite mason
||Everyone else is just kind of using them as life philosophies||
||Which tbf is what a lot of religious people do||
oak hollow
||Everyone else is just kind of using them as life philosophies||
||I'm pretty sure most, if not every, religion was created for this exact purpose.||
finite mason
||I'm pretty sure most, if not every, religion was created for this exact purpos...
||Well... not exactly? A lot of mythos finds its place in explaining phenomena, teaching lessons, or just being entertaining storytelling||
||However modern religions are all marked by following certain traditions. Religious holidays/seasons, routines, etc. None of the aeons in Honkai really have much of that. They're just ways of living||
oak hollow
||Ah, big oversight on my part. Nevermind. It is still a pretty odd connection though. Pretty interesting.||
finite mason
||It’s like calling “30 things you should be doing to stay healthy” a religion||
oak hollow
||Yeah, seriously didn't think that one through well 
||
finite mason
||All good, wasn’t offended or anything||
finite mason
||It’s like calling “30 things you should be doing to stay healthy” a religion||
||And tbf to your initial claim, religions can serve the same purpose as this depending on the individual. Everyone has a sort of religious tendency in which they have personal axioms to fall back on and defend. Whether or not those axioms are derived from a religion is up to them||
distant silo
Ok I didn't expect 30k tbh. Took the time to build my March and Dr. Ratio a bit und put them on a team with Himeko and Topaz and they just obliterated the enemies
and then the other team just existed
oak hollow
Getting the Eidolons for HMC really just pains me
I really thought getting to level 45 would be enough for E4
But I was sorely mistaken
E4 and E5 are combined into one reward
For level 50
I have not found every single chest but I just ran around the maps twice and I'm running out of side quests
I have so many stored up emo gears it isn't funny
I can't even find people to use them on :/
oak hollow
Ok I didn't expect 30k tbh. Took the time to build my March and Dr. Ratio a bit ...
Himeko Herta is FAR more powerful for PF, especially this stage
languid jackal
AAAHFJIDNSHZUANZ did a yolo 10 pull with the event daily login tickets I had and got Fu Xuan
oak hollow
Wait wtf
Is it already out right now?
Holy cow that's actually incredible wtf
That's INSANE luck
languid jackal
Wasn't even 30 pulls in
languid jackal
Wait wtf
Is it already out right now?
Yeah since a few hours I think
languid jackal
I'm EU ye
oak hollow
Why do we always get the last updates 
carmine copper
timezones innit
oak hollow
Pain
Wait no, couldn't be, right?
Maybe they can't update everything at once or something
We get updates a 4AM, far earlier than most people are usually awake
languid jackal
It's better that they happen at that time tbh
I've been playing Destiny lately and every time they update the game (which for some reason is EVERY Tuesday), since they do it at a time that doesn't inconvenience US people it always happens right when I'm off work, so that ends up being a wasted day for me
oak hollow
Ah
oak hollow
WHAT
Explain this
I feel more and more nervous by the day 😅
Y'all getting crazy luck and I'm shaking in my boots hoping pulling Topaz won't ruin my chances at Ruan Mei
distant silo
you know the worst part of this? I wanted to roll with my tickets on my standard banner but was distracted bc I was eating dinner
I was saving up after my 50/50 loss to Himeko for firefly
oak hollow
Wasn't even intentional
distant silo
where was this luck when I needed it in GEnshin
languid jackal
?????????????????
ANOTHER ONE??
EVERYONE PULL FOR FU XUAN TODAY
RNG MACHINE BROKE
oak hollow
Idk man
pure whale
Praying the same works for Boothill but after nabbing E2 Aven plus LC, E0 Topaz, and E0 Robin, I feel my luck has run dry
oak hollow
I absolutely love this new event
I've never felt more powerful action advancing my team over
And over
And over
That candle upgrade may very well be the best
finite mason
I did get Boothill
I have also realized there is no good Hunt cone for Boothill other than his 5 star one
distant silo
the relics I need vs the ones I got
I did 5 runs and got 10 times Genius of Brilliant Stars ._.
high geode
Any other signature hunt light cone will work for Boothill. Cruising works ok.
Obviously they’re nowhere near as good, but if you get sufficient BE from relics they’re not wasted since he gets crit and cd from break effect.
finite mason
So the Trace recommendations for Misha say you should prioritize Ult -> Skill -> Talent -> Basic Attack. How important are those when he's a sub DPS?
Does he need everything leveled up to 7 minimum?
oak hollow
You can usually ignore basic attack for last because it tends to be the least useful
I don't remember what Misha's talent is
I think it buffs freeze chance and damage per hit for his ultimate
I usually try to get everything to level 6 or 7 if I can
That makes them a pretty decent option in terms of power
Ideally, you stop at 8, although that's usually where the scaling starts to get crazy
finite mason
I think it buffs freeze chance and damage per hit for his ultimate
It just increases the number of hits his ultimate does based on the number of skill points consumed before he uses it
Also he regens energy off of it
I'm planning on using him with Imbibitor
At this point he's mostly built but his rope and sphere aren't the ones I'd like them to be
oak hollow
DHIL and Misha sounds like a ridiculous combo.
I approve of these shenanigans.
Wait, I actually never thought about doing that
Wonder if QQ and Misha would still work
oak hollow
At this point he's mostly built but his rope and sphere aren't the ones I'd like...
Can't wait for 2.3 and fast planar sphere grinding
finite mason
Wonder if QQ and Misha would still work
I hope so
Thought about using him as a utility for her too
I'll let you know how it goes
oak hollow
Please do, I do not have a built Misha
oak hollow
The bestie
which one
Also yes, Sparkle is definitely the best for this team
And Misha is going to absolutely pop off with this
finite mason
Man am I glad I got lucky with Sparkle...
I still don't have Tingyun, Imbibitor would've been miserable without her
finite mason
Right?
oak hollow
Is Tingyun not free?
oak hollow
No Yanqing
MASSIVE W
finite mason
Oh lol
Ye I don't know a thing about Yanqing other than the boss fight's kind of annoying for requiring you to cover every type weakness
Would be nice to get lucky and pull a Fu Xuan
oak hollow
Imagine actually trying to have the weakness type (lightning, wind, imaginary) when you can just take Pres MC and let them take all the little hits from the sword?
Just tank brute force the fight lmao
Especially the story battles where that's valid
finite mason
Having like... a 5 star event banner sustain would be nice
Also she's kind of like purple Kokomi but rude
oak hollow
Would be nice to get lucky and pull a Fu Xuan
I thought you were one of the people who go Fu day one
Guess that was a misconception
finite mason
I don't think I was playing when Fu Xuan came out initially
oak hollow
I think she has a banner running right now
finite mason
She does
I'm essentially at 0 pity now though so getting her is unlikely
I pulled Boothill
finite mason
Decisions were made
oak hollow
I learned very quickly after I started that a sustainer is a MUST
This game ramps up so fast
oak hollow
Boothill breaking all the enemies will never not be absolutely hilarious
finite mason
It'll be nice to be able to apply type weakness
pure whale
Boothill is hilarious in the way of like
“Oh you aren’t weak to physical damage?”
pulls out a gun
“Everyone is weak to physical bullets”
Clock Stucker
God he’s so silly
distant silo
Ye I don't know a thing about Yanqing other than the boss fight's kind of annoyi...
Thank god i have an Acheron otherwise this fight would worse than it already is. My only wind character is Dan Heng who I haven't used for ages lmao
oak hollow
Imagine using Dan Heng
Past the early game, he gets the Arlan treatment
March is very close to the same, although I found her useful before Penacony when pairing her with Pres MC and their taunt.
Imagine anyone taking damage ever (heal 30% HP on ultimate)
distant silo
I still use March from time to time just because I really like her. She was also very useful in PF
oak hollow
In PF? March was?
distant silo
Last PF was FUA focused and having her helped me a lot
oak hollow
That actually makes a lot of sense
Herta/Himeko probably absolutely destroyed that round of PF
Especially if they were ice/fire weak
Those two are insane for that mode
distant silo
I did use Himeko, Ratio, March, Topaz since I didn't have Herta built and the difference to my main team without FUAs was worlds apart lol
high geode
Break meta breaking the game in a way I fear. Why in gods name does Boothill get to 60/300 crit/crit damage and it still only accounts for 20% of his damage. 300 crit damage outside of simulated universe is disgusting, yet for him it’s just a passing thought.
Break effect comps and how they current scale is so antithetical to every other stat in the game that it confounds me how they plan to ‘balance’ it without ruining other teams or making just stupid fights.
You can get away with defense or hp chest and rope for Boothill and it just, doesn’t matter. A defense chest. For a Hunt character.
Make it make sense Hoyo
oak hollow
Imo, I like this new direction they're going in
It opens up the game for more varied play styles, and I personally would like the change
Break characters are significantly easier to build, at the cost of all their damage being back loaded to super break
Unless you're trying to zero cycle or other DPS focused content, I think this is a perfectly valid option since essentially any character can make use of this damage
pure whale
I am interested to see where Honkai goes from here
oak hollow
I hope they keep giving us these interesting kits
I like having to engage with the game in a new way
Actually, speaking of. I learned the hard way NOT to build a break team in SU without using:
- Remembrance (increases delay for weakness break)
- Hunt (increase character speed and delays enemies action).
- Nihility (BE AND BEFF buffs).
I will forever be surprised by this formatting
high geode
I'm not saying it's not interesting, or that it shouldn't exist, I just don't think it should exist like this.
pure whale
I didn’t actually see leaks from the beta this time around, I’m curious how much he changed and why they decided on these values
high geode
Break Effect scales with only itself, meaning that they are having to tack on absurd conversion rates and light cones onto the carries they're designing for it when they really don't need to.
oak hollow
Ah, that's why
Yeah, idk how they'll solve that
Most characters that use break effect like that (I'm pretty sure Xueyi was the first, turning BE into extra damage bonus) need the conversion to be good.
high geode
Sure, the damage is 'back loaded', but this isn't an issue in a real sense. My E6 Jing Yuan gets outdps'd by Boothill, whose consistent damgae versus his break damage is only 20%.
Break Effect is so overtuned right now with the disgusting pairing of Ruan Mei + Harmony MC that even without eidolons on MC Break Effect Jing Yuan is doing better than DPS Hypercarry Juan.
oak hollow
To be fair, this does require an additional five star unit to bring out that effect
Plus, you sacrifice two team slots to allow that
Even if it is more powerful by default
high geode
I mean even the hypercarry version ideally uses Ruan Mei anyway. It's just Ruan/Tingyun instead of Ruan/Harmony MC
high geode
This isn't innately a problem, I like Break Effect Juan for pure fiction a lot.
But he has no innate BE scaling
I could pick up a completely none built BE carry when they come out and it will outperform my E6 S0 in every way.
oak hollow
Hm
high geode
So what was the point in me pulling for anything up until this point?
This is hyperbolic, I don't actually care, it's just an example
And it was going to happen eventually anyway. Powercreep is the nature of Gacha.
oak hollow
I see where you're coming from.
I just realized I indirectly proved this point by mentioning Arlan being far more useful being and to scale with BE earlier too
high geode
I just didn't think it would be like this
oak hollow
At the very least, any content that requires to separate teams will not be capable of this kind of damage.
Super Break only really works with HMC, so they're the key factor in allowing the ridiculous BE scaling
high geode
Well. Yes and no.
For Boothill, yes. For potential future 5 star BE carries, well. We already know one is going to have their own super break.
Why? I don't know.
oak hollow
Wait, they left that in her kit? Firefly has her own Super Break?
high geode
Unless they've nerfed her a fifth time. Which is the other thing, they've gone through like 8 changes in two patches.
high geode
Break Effect is significantly easier to build, play, and create teams for because it's clear cut who can and can't be used.
oak hollow
I wonder if Firefly's super break scales with everyone or just herself?
high geode
This is a good thing, and it should exist. It's soooo much more free play player friendly than normal scaling
oak hollow
If it's just herself then it becomes far more balanced
high geode
But they are overloading it so hard right off the bat
I don't know exactly how it works. I don't know if you can have multiple super break instances per attack or not.
Even if you can't, you would still run Harmony MC with them. Which... is kinda the problem.
oak hollow
Iirc, super break only applies once, at the end of all hits for the attack that hit the opponent
high geode
You could remove Harmony MC's entire ult, and it woudln't matter because they just give hte team 62% break effect when built.
high geode
No, it's 15% of their break effect
oak hollow
oh
high geode
why the E4 is the important one and we all hate the clockie statue rn
oak hollow
I still have not touched that statue since last being in Penacony
At this point, I'll just wait for then to add more missions
I do not care about E5 if it's this painful to achieve
high geode
You'll still have to get the statue to level 40, and that's why I hate this statue so much.
It's not like the shops where you can just get enough to buy the eidolons, like it should be
oak hollow
I thought it was level 50 where you got it
Whatever the case is, you should not have to 100% Penacony to get it
I don't think the devs understand how hard it is to find what you're missing
high geode
Currently you have to get level 50, but we’re missing an eidolon still. Once it comes out you can get to e4 with level 40 statue
But at that point you might as well get all of them.
languid jackal
I'm feeling tired of Penacony faster than with the Luofu weirdly enough
high geode
I don’t like Penacony.
oak hollow
Currently you have to get level 50, but we’re missing an eidolon still. Once it ...
I am SO glad they're changing that
This is no longer a nightmare
All I have to do now is wait
high geode
E6 just makes it much easier for them to get energy, not a dealbreaker by any means.
oak hollow
Two extra hits to their skill
Not necessary in the slightest
The original BE set is more than enough.
Getting energy for breaking enemies is more than enough in most cases
high geode
Word on the testing is that superbreak effects stack into one damage
pure whale
I like Penacony exploration but mostly because I have Topaz and I really like those weird puzzle rooms with the wall switching
Topaz was literally the best pull I’ve ever made sorry E2 Aven I just love Numby tracking down chests for me sm
languid jackal
I did the first half of Penacony with Topaz and I STILL managed to miss chests 😭
finite mason
Customized Synthesis is a scam
languid jackal
Always has been 🔫
oak hollow
Useful for crafting ER Ropes if you have to.
finite mason
Useful for crafting ER Ropes if you have to.
What was really cool was the way I went into world 4 looking for Boothill pieces and ended up pulling 2 ER ropes in the same run for the break effect set
finite mason
I did end up also getting a Break Effect rope but it was kind of a slap in the face to get those for that set
Maybe Harmony Trailblazer’ll use it
Idk if he also wants a Break Effect rope or if he wants his ult more
oak hollow
BE rope is better, imo
You shouldn't have too many energy issues
Plus, assuming normal rotation with the cycles, you won't always have the enemy broken, anyway.
...
Or at least, that is my experience without Ruan Mei and Boothill
finite mason
So… who’s going to use these ropes?
Who wants a rope from the break effect set without break effect?
oak hollow
I was just putting my own stance on it, you're still free to use the ER rope if you want to.
Boothill could probably use it for repeated weakness implants but I'm not sure how big of a difference it makes to his damage, since it seems like most of it comes from his enhanced basic.
Having super break always ready may be beneficial, especially if you run slow HMC
languid jackal
Who wants a rope from the break effect set without break effect?
Potentially Ruan Mei
But I don't think it's her BiS
languid jackal
It's been a while since I looked it up but I believe it depends on light cone choice
With Cogs or another LC that gives ERR, with an ERR rope and either Penacony or Vonwacq set for the additional ERR you could get pretty much 100% ult uptime
Otherwise you can run standard support sets like Keel or Fleet
Talia isn't really worth it because 16% BE isn't that much and you're probably not getting Ruan Mei to 145 speed for the extra BE
oak hollow
Ah
Then I should probably stop building Talia for HMC as well
They're capped at 136 speed right now and also not getting the bonus effect from Talia
languid jackal
Idk what is recommended for HMC
Honestly Talia requirements are crazy for not a lot of pay-off
I think the only character I've managed to get to 145 speed or more with is Gallagher
languid jackal
Surprising Fleet is recommended over Keel
I guess it makes sense since with HMC you'll probably want to support Break carries who don't care as much for crit
oak hollow
Keel is still highly recommended, just not the highest.
I guess Eff Res and Crit DMG is the best in general.
high geode
You don't want fleet or keel. Even without proccing the bonus effect from Talia it's best in slot. Literally the only stat that matters for HMC is break effect. Break effect rope, break effect substats, Talia even if it doesn't activate.
Ruan Mei prefers energy regen over break effect rope.
Since you can't spam her skill for energy regen like you can HMC.
And since you're always pairing the two of them together, you only need watchmaker on one. It doesn't stack.
I go watchmaker on Ruan with energy regen rope, and 4pc Thief+Talia on HMC.
Can easily go 2/2 if you hit better subs tho.
I also would not recommend ER rope for Boothill. All of his scaling is break effect and rope is a big chunk of BE.
Only unit I can think of who would want ER from break effect set is Ruan Mei, unfortunately. Unless you're running something unconventional for a BE team like... Ting Yun.
high geode
Which theoretically could work btw for the upcoming banner character.
finite mason
@oak hollow I may need to put Energy Recharge on Misha with how quick this boy is getting stacks
His ATK rope is really good though
Oh also fun bit
When Imbibitor Lunae uses his stacks in place of skill points, it still gives Misha his stacks
oak hollow
I'm starting to think the only more SP effective way to stack Misha's ultimate is to get insanely unlucky with QQ
Or throw her and dill into the same team
high geode
Cain absolutely knows this game far better than I do
Dont sell yourself short. I just know how these specific characters work because Im' actively using/building them for the next banner. I don't even know what Misha does.
finite mason
I'm starting to think the only more SP effective way to stack Misha's ultimate i...
Sparkle can help with that too
Giving QQ more turns means she’ll have less tiles of the same time each time it comes around to her
languid jackal
Babe wake up new extraterrestrial communications just dropped
Twitter
Twitter
Banger designs tbh
oak hollow
This currently makes Yukong the only playable foxian who does not carry around a fan
I am taking notes
pure whale
Close enough welcome back Tomoe Kamisama Kiss
oak hollow
What
pure whale
Tomoe Kamisama Kiss
oak hollow
The resemblance is there
high geode
They’re gonna have to sell me hard on the kit because that design is nonsensical for a swordswoman.
pure whale
Honestly a lot of good stuff in the program today
Everyday it feels worse to be a fan of both Genshin and Star Rail 
oak hollow
Hype for the new events man
finite mason
Twitter
finite mason
Twitter
oak hollow
If you have SW, that's a really good option.
Otherwise, Asta for ridiculous speed buffs.
Or Pela for AoE def shred
oak hollow
Doesn't surprise me; having over 200 speed constantly is very powerful.
finite mason
Now I have to build Trailblazer
oak hollow
TB turning basically everyone into a DPS is so much fun
finite mason
Not quite from the ground up but close to it
finite mason
Man needing to build Harmony Trailblazer...
I had like a moment of bliss where I was like "Man Boothill's almost done, I just need to boost his relics and then- wait who's on his team?"
I did not have a team for him...
languid jackal
If you have Ruan Mei def her
finite mason
That would be really cool wouldn’t it
carmine copper
I really want Ruan Mei but they're running her at the exact same time as Firefly so rip me
oak hollow
Bro, after seeing the new trailer last night I'm having EXTREME second thoughts about going Ruan Mei
That had me borderline in tears, that was painful to watch
Idk if I have enough pulls for both...
I can't get enough of watching this baseball bat suddenly materialize out of nothing.
This is cool af
high geode
Ruan Mei and HTB are by far the most powerful support duo in the game atm, and obviously the best two for break teams.
Both Boothill and Sam massively prefer both of them. Yes Sam, not Firefly. Kamen Rider >>>> A girl we’ve known for 10 minutes
I like to pretend she doesn’t exist so they can still be cool.
oak hollow
Ruan Mei and HTB are by far the most powerful support duo in the game atm, and o...
Combining those two just completely destroys everything.
Provided you can break weaknesses.
I'm really wondering how powerful they'll be with Welt. I'm so curious how bad the action delay will get with the imprisonment.
*imprisonment + slow, I mean
oak hollow
I like to pretend she doesn’t exist so they can still be cool.
At least her backstory is really...
Something.
finite mason
Someone told me I should build Gallagher for the Boothill comp as my sustain
oak hollow
That sounds like a good idea
Gallagher has Luocha's healing field as a debuff from his ult
It allows all characters to heal after attacking an enemy
No need to waste SP on a skill for a heal
finite mason
Yeye it’s a neat idea
I just
It’s taken me like 3 weeks to get Boothill to a point where he’s remotely playable
And I still can’t play him that well because I have to build 2 more characters
3 if I pull Ruan Mei
oak hollow
HMC not built for the SB damage?
finite mason
I mean he’s level 70
That’s about it
I only had him at that point because I used to use Preservation
oak hollow
Iirc, super break damage scales with level
finite mason
No traces, maybe E2, no relics
finite mason
It’s gonna take a bit
oak hollow
Yeah, it takes a while
I'd do the ult and skill before anything else
*ult and talent
Ult gives extra BE and talent ups super break damage, iirc
finite mason
My friend’s like “bro you still have like 1000 condensed resin from when you took a break, just use that”
I don’t want to sit at my computer tabbing in and out of this game for like 4 hours
oak hollow
Yes, you should use it on trace materials
It should only be occasionally, depending on how fast you can clear the calyx
Once every 3-4 minutes, or at least that's what I average at the highest level
Alternatively
You could get an auto clicker and leave your mouse hovering over the "again" button
You can then be free to walk away and let the game play itself
finite mason
I… don’t really like the auto farming in this game if I’m being honest
Or really just in general
If I power on a game it’s because I’d like to play it
oak hollow
Yes, it still wastes your time.
But you don't have to actually play it while it does that.
finite mason
Not watch a robot play it poorly
oak hollow
Tbh, you can just leave the game running whenever you plan to do something else
That's the best use case for the autoplay
It's QoL so you don't waste time in places you don't want to
Grinding gets boring after a while
finite mason
Is it QoL if you still have to tab in and out every 3-4 minutes while you’re doing other stuff?
Like it’s still distracting and wasting your time
oak hollow
That's an oversight, to be honest.
But it's also an issue that can be very easily circumvented.
I just listen for the sound effect of the round ending, pop back into it for half a second, and then wait until I hear it again.
Benefit of being a mobile player
oak hollow
Like it’s still distracting and wasting your time
Wait until the next survey comes around, it's worth making the request to allow autoplay to continue for more than 6 rounds
Actually, I'd like it if they didn't cap us at all for how many trace rounds we can do
finite mason
It’s not even that, I just don’t like the idea of having to farm for like 20 minutes a day in the least engaging way possible
I would like to play the video game
oak hollow
You could just...
Play the game instead of letting autoplay do it.
But that defeats the purpose, a little bit.
finite mason
But that’s just doing the exact same fight like 24 times in a row
oak hollow
Yes
finite mason
That’s not fun either
oak hollow
I try to make it fun by trying to find the fastest way to defeat all six rounds
It's like pure fiction if it didn't have absurd number of enemies
With the right setup and action order, you can hyperoptimize every single round and destroy every enemy before they even get their turn.
It's a way to spice it up, if you really are getting tired of the same 24 battles repeatedly.
Gotta try and put the fun into the game, if you're doing the tedious stuff.
finite mason
I just had mental whiplash trying to process the phrase “gotta try and put the fun into the game”
oak hollow
LOL
Yes, there are some parts of games that can be genuinely unfun
But I like optimizing things, so I don't have a problem with repeating the same thing over and over
Although, I'm probably super biased, as a Sonic fan and certified uncertified speed runner (that's literally what we do)
finite mason
Nah speedrunning has its own appeal, I’ve enjoyed speedrunning before
finite mason
Oh no I just mean I can vibe with liking speedrunning
I’ve done it and I like watching it done
Truthfully I’d probably have more fun with Star Rail if I tried to optimize the calyx runs as well
oak hollow
You should give it a try!
finite mason
I just don’t really have the resources to do that until I’ve finished doing calyx runs
oak hollow
I see where the issue lies
You can always try a different setup before each calyx
You have to hit again after six rounds anyway.
But I can understand trying to burn through them all in one go with whichever team you choose.
high geode
Gallagher is the recommended healer for break teams because he scales with break, but you can swap him for any healer depending on SP efficiency in your comp and it won't make much of a difference in the long run.
high geode
oak hollow
|| Argenti was bold AF for that move. I gotta respect it.||
finite mason
Twitter
oak hollow
Gallagher in oversided glasses his hilarious
pure whale
Literally with hours to go
languid jackal
Yoooo nice
oak hollow
They're crazy good
Animation power creep is real
oak hollow
YO
I got lucky AF
Firefly and Ruan Mei both acquired.
Ironically, those two would absolutely hate each other
I'm honestly kind of surprised they don't have anything to say about each other like Seele does to Luka
finite mason
YO
I got lucky AF
Firefly and Ruan Mei both acquired.
Congrats! Hope I’ll get the same
distant silo
I think my game has broken odds
12 Pull Himeko
17 Pull Fu Xuan
And now 15 Pulls Firefly
Dumped the rest of my jade into the Ruan Mei banner, sitting at a 50 pity there now
languid jackal
You love to see it
high geode
Hard pity for Sam E0, and lost the 75/25 on LC. Uh oh.
languid jackal
You hate to see it
pure whale
Boothill took everything from me so I’ll probably spend this time recuperating and trying for Jade in a few weeks
Congrats to you guys tho
oak hollow
Oof...
carmine copper
did a single 10 pull, got bronya, now farming stellar jades like never before
there's a lot of content i havent done so lots of jades i can get
like pretty much every past event, forgotten hall, simulated universe
high geode
My god they are forcing this ship and character so hard.
oak hollow
Canonically a girlfriend-type situation.
Has the most trailers/marketing.
Possibly the saddest backstory.
One of the most broken characters to date.
Has Trailblazer as best teammate.
Oh yeah, they definitely intended that.
I like the new italics font
Looks different
pure whale
I didn’t even realize - didn’t see the last couple of firefly trailers and sticking my head in the sand to avoid spoilers (Hoyo is cool like that and will post spoiler cutscenes within two days of an update :>)
In the game itself it just seems friendly and maybe that’s just me not really being interested in TB romance really.
oak hollow
I found it a little weird too.
Firefly just seems to enjoy being around the TB but nothing more
Even still, I do find it absolutely hilarious how this new act is possibly the shortest TB mission yet.
pure whale
I appreciated it tbh. A nice wrap up with a bow and teasers for what to expect for the next planet. And ||Aventurine was there. And the Boothill interactions are always incredible. I appreciate the the group chat with the bombs. It charmed me to the Penacony cast in a way that reminds me of the Sumeru cast in Genshin (a very very good thing)||
oak hollow
||That was so cool watching all of them band together, definitely top tier collaboration||
pure whale
||Sunday in chains, including chains for his wings, definitely was fan service for people like me LOL||
oak hollow
||Wait, they locked up his wings too? For what reason?||
pure whale
||I was under the impression the one of his larger waist wings were clipped, but it seems they needed to chain them anyway 🤔||
||three chains in photo||
oak hollow
||Hm, interesting. Whatever the case is, it's crazy how his pride literally prevented his freedom... Even if it's going to come at some unknown cost.||
pure whale
||What did Robin give up for this deal </3||
oak hollow
||PFFT. To be fair, her brother is a control freak to the highest degree. It's probably better this way.||
pure whale
||I feel for the guy. He’s definitely got that allegory for religious grooming and trauma, I know that the popular theory was that he would become a Stellaron Hunter, but now I’m kind of hoping he gets a spot in the Ten Stonehearts||
oak hollow
||Do you think Jade would really offer something like that? Then again, Sunday's ties to Ena might be useful for her. I could only imagine what having a Cornerstone could do to enhance his capabilities. I wonder if they're restricted to the Dreamscape alone?||
pure whale
||im not sure. He’s definitely got the personality for it 😛 from a writers point of view, i feel there’s a lot you can do with Sunday as he moves forward. I’m excited to see it||
oak hollow
||We'll have to see! I'm really curious what Sunday has to give up for freedom. Seems like Jade is just going to keep him there forever until he eventually gives in.||
high geode
Finished the statue. One of the most unfun things I've done in a game. Like if collecting every Korok seed was mandatory but with none of the fun exploration.
Obviously the mandatory bit is hyperbole, but I cannot understate how much I disliked doing this.
high geode
To guarantee two turn ults for 100% uptime on watchmaker set, yeah
It's the second of my two teams for endgame content, I need them to be at their best.
oak hollow
Ah
high geode
HuoHuo/Ting/Asta/Jing Yuan
HuoHuo and Luocha can swap between the two teams as needed if I needed better cc cleanse on one side.
high geode
Lightning Lord speed is based on its stacks
In order to guarantee it has 10 stacks each time you have to get Juan to like 150 or something.
Easy to do with Asta
oak hollow
Asta be giving you like +100 speed, it's insane
distant silo
everytime I feel like I'm doing fine in multiplayer candy crush, I check the enemy who has over 100 strength more than me
oak hollow
Get luckier lmao
pure whale
I found the most luck using the TB bird
It’s lower requirements for its skill lets me use it pretty consistently
oak hollow
I keep forgetting to switch my bird so I'm using the Firefly bird.
I'm pretty sure SW's is the most powerful of them all, through
high geode
I don’t think break teams should get to go into last boss of an SU world and enter the fight doing the entire first phase of damage
oak hollow
I thought that was exclusive to Ruan Mei teams, as her technique allows for the break damage.
high geode
It’s both of them.
oak hollow
Both of who?
high geode
Ruan Mei tech + Sam tech
distant silo
my first limited LC...rip my funds tho. But I think it's worth, really like Firefly and she's way too good in my team atm.
high geode
It’s worth it if you have the full team. Firefly is not balanced
distant silo
I do. She obliterates her MoC within 2 turns, i'd already given up on 3 stars lmao
high geode
It is not a balanced team in the slightest. If you get Firefly’s E1 it’s effortless to play
oak hollow
I just looked up her E1 and it's honestly ridiculous
No skill points in enhanced mode
So I guess she can just spam her skill endlessly
Imagine running a no support run using Asta instead of Gallagher
That would be a RIDICULOUS amount of actions
*no sustain
pure whale
Me holding on to my absolutely powercrept-to-hell Blade for dear life
high geode
I still use him in my follow up team for simulated universe. Obviously not as good a team for follow up as RRAT, but it can still 1 cycle Svarog in current divergent.
Blade has the unfortunate problem of being a well designed unit around his theme. Can’t be well designed in gacha you have to be broken.
pure whale
I enjoy the thought he requires from time to time
languid jackal
Surely he'll get a dedicated support soon™️
oak hollow
I think Jade just might be the best one for now
Since she takes away HP from him every time he acts
Iirc
Jingliu is the same way when in her enhanced state.
high geode
His scaling just doesn’t function well in a team setting. Since he’s the only unit that scales (realistically) with Max Hp it’s incredibly difficult for him to be buffed in a way that another unit doesn’t just do better.
Jingliu on paper is a combo that makes sense, but units without supports to buff them just don’t do enough damage in this game. So if you’re going to run Jing, why not just hyper carry her?
This is coming from someone who uses Blade.
oak hollow
Yeah no, I can't think of a reason not to tbh.
high geode
Even the idea of a dedicated support to buff max hp doesn’t make sense because then there becomes no counterplay. He already doesn’t die. Hp is the best defensive stat.
oak hollow
Actually, there's exactly one counterplay.
And only two enemies use it.
It's the 'Japa' status effect that reduces your maximum amount of HP until the status is removed.
It's super easy to get rid of but like.
It's an option, technically.
high geode
I suppose, but it’s still 50%, and 50% of Blades hp as is is like 80% of most normal carrys’ hp. Why ulting with him never feels like a risk even though it sets him to 50%.
oak hollow
Oh wait, I forgot it caps at 50
high geode
I’ve only found success with him in simulated universe, elation teams. But even then that’s only because I don’t have RRAT.
oak hollow
You'd think Abundance/Destruction would be a better combination?
high geode
And with just how ridiculously overtuned Break Team is atm I’ve just been using them.
oak hollow
Break team just kind of eats through everything
high geode
I’d you wanted to use a hyper carry Blade team, sure, but at that point again why not just use Jingliu or Dhil
With my follow up team all 3 attackers get mega buffed by every blessing rather than just the carry.
Clara/Blade with elation is a very turn your brain off, no worries run. They can’t die and so long as you max out elation buffs they’ll kill everything.
oak hollow
LMAO
I'm going to try this now
I never once thought of doing that
The infinite heals team
high geode
I go Clara/Blade/Juan/HuoHuo + Elation
Yeah you can get the elation blessing that is the 10-15% heal on every follow up
And Clara quite literally cannot die.
oak hollow
Yeah, nobody is dying on that team unless they get one shot
Imagine allowing the enemies to go berserk
high geode
As I said before even with it obviously being a much weaker team than RRAT it can still one to zero cycle SU max difficulty Svarog
Used it to clear every world with little to no issue.
oak hollow
Not surprising to me.
high geode
And used it for Swarm/G&G
oak hollow
I might rebuild and use that team for Swarm
I still have not beaten Difficulty V in that yet
It's surprisingly difficult
No cheese strategies without insane luck, unlike GnG
high geode
It can struggle in the mid if you miss the bigger elation buffs off of first elite
The 3 star blessing that turns ultimates into follow up attacks is an important one for their scaling
oak hollow
Oh yeah, no doubt about that one.
It's borderline required that early on.
high geode
So long as you can get mostly elation it’ll do fine. Elation and Nihility got mad overtuned for SU because there weren’t many units for follow up or dot in vanilla
Well, not many good ones.
oak hollow
Nihility path became SO broken after I got Guinaifen.
I remember being shocked at how quickly bosses health bars went down when they got their turn.
10/10, would definitely nuke bosses again
It made the game so much easier.
And now the same thing is happening with Break teams and Divergent Universe
I haven't checked if any of that stuff carries over to normal Sim Uni but I really hope it did.
oak hollow
Well, not many good ones.
Hook, Serval, Luka.
Pretty sure those are the only ones that were out by that point.
Maybe Sampo too, actually
finite mason
The wine turned her into a rag doll
oak hollow
I just now completed Divergent Universe 6.
It's actually not as bad as I thought it was going to be.
It's still easier than Swarm Disaster 5 and Conundrum (which just takes forever to get lucky enough for, it isn't hard)
Also, this happened and I nearly died of laughter.
I don't remember seeing this many buffs since the last Company Time run
finite mason
Bro having Boothill on a 3 star lightcone...
He's made of paper
I'm about to put him on the 5 star hunt one from Herta and just use the 3 star as material
oak hollow
Most of the 3* lightcones are bad
finite mason
This 3 star is the only other hunt lightcone with an effect that isn't useless on Boothill
oak hollow
The only good one I can think of is the Choir lightcone for harmony and Defense for preservation. Those are pretty good.
finite mason
But its stats are just abysmal
oak hollow
Best 3* lightcone:
400 atk
finite mason
It's bad out here...