#Nintendo Direct - February 8th 2023

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alpine sluice
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graphics and models got a massive upgrade.

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How much better does Metroid Prime Remastered look when compared to the original on GameCube and Wii?

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Particles are new too the fire looks a lot better.

stiff swift
alpine sluice
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Well they classified it as a remaster.

stiff swift
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yes, because the goal post moved for some reason

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I personally consider it a remake

alpine sluice
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Still I never saw what the original looked like.
Comparing the two now the remaster looks really good.

fossil shell
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As someone who has played the trilogy and can compare it, the remake does indeed look a lot better

cosmic bough
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Oh I didn’t know they made Fantasy Life

flint lava
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Oh man

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Ghost trick returns

kind fjord
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Anyone else unable to download thr Octo 2 demo?

brazen timber
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I can try later but I wanted to keep my fingers of it

kind fjord
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In any case, I’m assuming it’s the first 3h of gameplay, locking you to the earlygame areas

gritty ridge
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looked back through the direct for things that im interested in

Pikmin 4
Samba de Amigo: Party Central
Ghost Trick
We Love Katamari
Etrian Odyssey
Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe
Kuru Kuru Kururin looks funky and I love it.
Metroid Prime Remaster
Blanc
Still not been given any big reasons to buy the new Zelda

kind fjord
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Like with reading Chainsaw Man, I’m sure there’ll be a few people knocking on ky door if I don’t get Ghost Trick

spark bane
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Ok things I wanna buy which mean I need a source of income

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Samba de Amigo: Party Central
Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective
Splatoon 3 Expansion Pass
Metroid Prime Remastered
Master Detective Archives: Rain Code
PROFESSOR LAYTON AND THE NEW WORLD OF STEAM GRAHHHHHH
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

stone shadow
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I only want pikmin, the splatoon expansion, and Zelda

spark bane
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Time to apply for jobs lmao

stone shadow
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So I think I can do it

slate karma
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Holly come work for me

spark bane
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Sure

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God knows you don't do anything

slate karma
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Ok come to the netherlands right now!

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Yeah this is the free-est job of all time

stone shadow
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Ik for sure I’m buying the splatoon 3 expansion, but I’m wondering what’s the point of us returning to the original inkopolis map apart from nostalgia? They brought salmon run back to the map, which I mean okay? We have that on the normal map. And as for the possibility of them using old stages on that map, why could they not just do it on the regular splat 3 map? (Not hating or anything I’m still gonna buy it I’m just wondering what’s up w that)

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If they’re doing the latter, it seems like a paywall, which is reasonable considering they have to rebuild the stages and optimize them for the new game but I’m hoping there is still something more

spark bane
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seems like its just a lobby skin tbh

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which is fine, most of the price for the expansion pass will be for the side story i'm sure

wind dagger
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Splatoon 3 Expansion Pass is the most idol thing

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Legit paying $20 or whatever to see some idols

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The second best idols at that not even the good ones

stone shadow
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Respect the squid sisters 🌝

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They walked so the others could run

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/lh

gritty ridge
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downloaded nso gb emulator

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9 games at launch

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6 for gba

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im actually so dead

fallow summit
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Would be cool to have the pokemon games on there

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Unfortunately gamefreak / tpc exists

gritty ridge
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NES launched with 20
SNES launched with 21
N64 launched with 9
Genesis launched with 15
GB launched with 9
GBA launched with 6

i'll leave it at that

slate karma
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I have no clue why they thought it was a good idea to launch with so little

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Especially bc that leak from last year had over 30 games

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I’m still really happy with it knowing whats to come but the lineup rn is not super exciting

gritty ridge
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glad they thought Alone in the Dark and Gargoyle's Quest were must-haves

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also now have three versions of Mario 3 on nso

fallow summit
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hm

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quick thought is

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online with those is a bit harder to pull

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since you dont have local play, but a link-cable to so to say

slate karma
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Fair but if you’ve already tested over 30 games

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Clearly you’re not going to add all of them at launch

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But still

brazen timber
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It is not like you have to pay extra or something to use the Gba emulator. Imo it is fine with "only" the games which are out now because this is just extra content for the content which is already out.

gritty ridge
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uhh yeah you do

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you have to pay £50 a year for it

brazen timber
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I mean paying extra to the already existing costs

gritty ridge
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True

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but if that's where the bar is now then idek

brazen timber
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The bar was way lower when they announced Nso+ if you ask me

gritty ridge
stiff swift
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The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom's JP price was revealed: 7,900 yen
7,900 yen at the current exchange rate is equal to $60.10 USD.
For reference, Xenoblade Chronicles 3 goes for 8,700 yen in JP, about $65 USD.
It is priced at $59.99 in the US.

As to why the west has a price jump despite the game bring no more expensive in Japan, Nintendo says it "decides this on a case by case basis".
https://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-says-its-game-prices-are-determined-on-a-case-by-case-basis-70-not-the-trend-going-forward/
My translation of the non-answer: "because we can haha"

gritty ridge
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for ref, Wii U VC for gba launched with eight games - Metroid Fusion, M&L, Advance Wars, Kirby Amazing Mirror, Golden Sun, WarioWare, F-Zero and Yoshi's Island

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when you're performing worse than the WIi U, something is going very very wrong

wind dagger
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We've been burned with Nintendo emulation before.

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They often just don't play test their own emulators

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Nobody can tell me the Wii U VC emulation for the N64 Zeldas was playtested in the slightest

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Nor was the OOT for NSO playtested.

gritty ridge
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mhm

wind dagger
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As a major GB fan this is kind of a disappointing launch for the NSO library.

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Not only is there little they chose some VERY specific titles

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Nobody remembers Kuru Kuru Kururin

gritty ridge
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there are so few games solely because they knew they could get away with it, and they are

wind dagger
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Seems like a Japanese flavored launch tbh

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I wonder what Japan gets actually.

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Also GBA is locked behind the expansion anyways. 6 games locked behind a higher price point for some people.

gritty ridge
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Japan got the same GBA games and the same GB games bar AitD which was replaced with smth called Yakuman

desert pond
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they got mario land 2 but not add mario land 1, or have wario land 3, but dont have 1 and 2?, NO WARIO LAND 4? thats his greatest achivement!

wind dagger
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Don't get me wrong, this is extremely exciting still. This gives me immense hope of Four Swords being something I can play with people.

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But it's a bummer start for sure.

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I honestly won't be tapping into the GB NSO for a while due to the lack.

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My hype was deflated slightly after a night's sleep.

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Besides Metroid Prime is a masterpiece

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I think I said something about Super Mario Land 1 before

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SML2 is the MUCH popular one plus it looks more like a Super Mario game.

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SML is weird as heck

gritty ridge
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GB NSO is as pathetic as GBA

desert pond
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that doesnt mean it should be neglected tho

wind dagger
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It wasn't originally supposed to be a Mario game iirc its development history.

gritty ridge
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9 games in and they're already scraping the bottom of the barrel

wind dagger
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Neglect is a weird word to use here.

gritty ridge
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tbf it is lol

wind dagger
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Nintendo doesn't neglect their legacy content this is OBVIOUS. They'll put it up eventually but the launch titles are an extremely curated bunch.

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They chose VERY specific games.

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And then Tetris lmao

gritty ridge
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I've never played tetris before

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can't wait

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if they ever do GCN on NSO then it'll launch with like 3 games I PROMISE you

wind dagger
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GCN on NSO is seeming unlikely.

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This is only due to my knowledge of emulation.

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The Switch can barely run GCN games on emulators

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(I know this because of Uncle Jimtendo of course)

desert pond
gritty ridge
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I mean it's unlike but you never know

wind dagger
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I actually don't think Dolphin devs have even gotten their software to work on Switch at all

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At least not yet from what I know.

gritty ridge
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they've put it on xbox :))

stiff swift
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One of the arguments I thought was sound on adding new NSO systems is that if the Switch is nearing EoL, why would they release new stuff for it?
So I think the end of the Switch is still pretty far off. 2025+

desert pond
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i mean if it wasnt for Mario Land 1 and 2, we wouldnt have Daisy, Wario ,and everyone else that ended up put in the spinoff series later on

wind dagger
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They sure did. The Xbox has been proven to be one of the best emulation machines tho

gritty ridge
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honestly I can't see the switch closing off for another two or three years

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aside from console specs they have zero reason to

wind dagger
gritty ridge
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what

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nahhhh

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they'll restart and charge again on the next console

stiff swift
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The NSO stuff runs on an emulator - it is not streamed.

wind dagger
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Yeah but the emulator is downloaded through their eShop lol

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THey can just bring it to their next system.

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Because i do not see them abanonding the Switch ecosystem

stiff swift
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In that sense they would have to make the emulator run on the new console

wind dagger
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THink of it like the DS line

stiff swift
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Which would mean the new console has to support the Switch programming language

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But tbh

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That sounds likely

wind dagger
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I believe it will for sure.

desert pond
gritty ridge
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honestly I'm with Deemo

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don't think they'll drop switch

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wouldn't be surprised if it was just what they made now

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bare in mind if you count the DS and 3DS as the same line, the DS lasted for 15+ years

wind dagger
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In 7 years the Switch has almost become the best selling console of all time from any source.

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Almost 7 years

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That ain;t going awau

stiff swift
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That's literally what I'm arguing against lol. I think the Switch still has many years ahead of it.

wind dagger
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Well if you mean the current Switch as is

desert pond
# wind dagger That ain;t going awau

to be fair, the wii was successful and then they did the wii u later on, history can potentially repeat if they choose to end the switch with totk and couple of other things from 2023/2024, Potentially..

wind dagger
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I think it'll go through 2024. Which is two more years. I see an announcement for a Q1 new Switch model launching 2025. Or holiday 2024.

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Well they've got games all the way out to August so far.

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And no new Mario yet

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The new Mario will determine it all

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Everything

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If there is a new Mario this holiday season the Switch is here to stay until late 2024.

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Also this direct showed an INSANE amount of third party support

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If there was a new console coming we'd be seeing much less.

stiff swift
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I wouldn't even begin to say Switch is ending in 2024 with how fire the last direct was. Consoles that leave in the next year typically see a slow down the year prior. Late 2025 at the earliest IMO.

desert pond
# wind dagger Everything

hold your horses there deemo, what if we are getting our hopes up and they dont have a new mario on the way as a possibility

wind dagger
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People would already be developing for a new form of programming

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If there is no new Mario this year I think the Switch has one foot out the door lol

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I truly believe that.

vague flame
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My guess as to when the Switch 2 comes out is dependent on what the second half of 2023 looks like.

wind dagger
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Mario is their flagship

desert pond
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i mean after getting a big cgi movie as the biggest achievement, what is left to go further?

stiff swift
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There's just no reason to believe the Switch is leaving us anytime soon after the last Direct IMO

gritty ridge
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honestly

wind dagger
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I full agree DW.

gritty ridge
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I don't think Mario is that big of a deal anymore

wind dagger
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I just don't thjink it'll be longer than 2024.

gritty ridge
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Mario has literally ascended to Mickey Mouse status and his place has been taken by Zelda

wind dagger
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2025 sorry

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You said 2025+

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If it's later than 2025 WOOF.

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Now you're talking a new Xbox/Sony gen of consoles territory.

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But then again...

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as sad as it is to say it we're going to be going through a major shift in Nintendo these next few years.

desert pond
wind dagger
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Miyamoto is nearing retirement. Sakurai is already half way out.

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Aonuma has maybe one or two more Zelda releases left.

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The major players are leaving.

stiff swift
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They know that, many of the teams at Nintendo have younger people on them too

wind dagger
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Nintendo's future is coming to a big shift.

gritty ridge
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mhm

stiff swift
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Splatoon is notorious for having a younger dev team

gritty ridge
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those last traces of childhood nintendo will be gone

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they will then just be a corporation

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like any other, truly

desert pond
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if Furukawa is any indication, i do feel like Nintendo will lose the creative drive they had from the old staff, and the new staff will either be just as creative or be souless corporate

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either or

gritty ridge
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they're already a soulless corporation

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they always were

wind dagger
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Corporations are soulless by nature and design. They have to be.

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You can't have a soul and chase profit.

stiff swift
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I think Nintendo knows full well the risk of their big players getting too old and have planned accordingly with younger people

desert pond
wind dagger
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People think corporations owe some sort of morality. The world runs on capitalism and that is not going to change over night. Corporations are going to continue making decisions that make money over anything

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And that is 100% lawful

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and what corporations SHOULD do.

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Nintendo SHOULD chase making money.

gritty ridge
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tho tbf miyamoto has basically just been the "ideas guy" for the past decade LMAO

wind dagger
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True.

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And is apparently a hard boss to work for. But who knows people say stuff all the time.

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Reggie likes him enough so I trust Reggie.

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Oh and just so we're all clear

gritty ridge
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hopefully whoever replaces him fully won't be so allergic to narratives

desert pond
# wind dagger Nintendo SHOULD chase making money.

Corporations are like Rome, they werent built in a day, they were built on foundation, and strived for decades, but everything has its end, even corporations arent immune to this once they reach the lates stages of capitalism, and much like how rome collapses and dies, such as the nature of corporations when they eventually hit that point, they died as they lived, being a corporation chasing money

wind dagger
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I am not trying to say Switch is going to be getting a new console lmao

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Here's a snippet of my Ralf dm's

stiff swift
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Yep that was my reaction to the Direct lmao

wind dagger
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This was post direct hyped Deemo who was still unconcious on the floor from the MEtroid Prime announcement.

desert pond
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dang Ralf acting like a villain rn

wind dagger
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I still think it all hinges on a Mario game though

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That was me not Ralf lmao

desert pond
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oh lemme change that

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Deemo has entered a villain arc confirmed

wind dagger
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I am always in that arc

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I think the biggest crime is Kirby and OCtopath and Metroid Prime all on the same day.

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Nintendo is insane.

desert pond
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i dunno the big N has done crazier things before tho

wind dagger
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Who let Nintendo cook

stiff swift
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You're going to cringe reading this and I do too but...
Considering Switch is likely lasting to 2025+ now, I don't think it's too late for a pro model now.

wind dagger
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This is exactly what I am saying but I don't think you understood.

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Think of it like the DS line

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DS

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DS Lite

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DSi

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They all played the same exact games and had the same ecosystem

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Nintendo will follow this model

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We are not going away fom "Switch"

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It'll just be a different version

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We already have Lite and OLED

stiff swift
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Oh I see, I thought you meant Switch 2

wind dagger
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Next is the DSi

desert pond
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Switch will get a son

wind dagger
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Switchi

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lmao

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Well wait

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This is Nintendo

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I say 2023 New Nintendo Switch drops for $350

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2024*

gritty ridge
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honestly I could see that at the end of this year

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or 2024

desert pond
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the DS mentality comparison is interesting to take note of, but i dont believe they will do something like that

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if not like that, then something like a switch spinoff

stiff swift
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Late 2023 with some big new game like 3d mario or metroid or early 2024 with switch 2 in late 2025-2026

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I can totally see that

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still

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the fact we may be looking at a 8-9 year console span is wild

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PS4 Pro was 2016 right?

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and ps5 2020

desert pond
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at best i WILL think Switch will end around 2027

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a 10 year span for this seems like a good run

stiff swift
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Well honestly if they do a pro model they probably could extend the lifespan because people will (mostly) stop complaining on new hardware

strong galleon
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I feel like plans changed a lot with chip shortages

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I feel like it would have been difficult to prepare a launch of a new console while the shortages were happening

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Look at the PS5 launch

wind dagger
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The disaster

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Almost as bad as the XC3 CE launch 🙂

strong galleon
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I don’t want to talk about it pain

tepid yacht
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you say ps5 launch was a disaster but its always been selling faster than ps4 did

gritty ridge
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Yeah honestly the OLED model was probably just them trying to form something from the remnants of a Pro model

strong galleon
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That’s what I’m thinking

desert pond
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could be

strong galleon
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Delaying TOTK to perhaps the new console

stiff swift
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The original Aula leak (codename for OLED switch) did indeed have beefier specs originally

gritty ridge
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Haven't got better specs but there's a much better screen and the ethernet port and stuff

tepid yacht
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and last night makes me confirm new console is bound to next year

stiff swift
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and everything minus that was the same

vague flame
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I never believed that they were going to do a Pro model, seems like a waste of RnD (especially since, by this point, there is no meaningful difference between a mid-gen refresh and a new console with backwards compatibility).

strong galleon
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New console better be backwards compatible UraGun

gritty ridge
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omg pls

strong galleon
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And I think the NSO perks should also transfer day one

gritty ridge
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honestly if it's not backwards compat then I just won't get it
I barely use my switch nowadays anyways so it just wouldn't be worth it in any way

desert pond
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i would think being backwards compatible is a must have

stiff swift
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You really won't get it for new Zelda and Mario?

strong galleon
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Just that whole NSO channel transplanted with VC

desert pond
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if it doesnt well i guess they did a missed opportunity

tepid yacht
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you'd think the same before Switch launched

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it wasnt backwards compatible

gritty ridge
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tho like every system since the Wii has had backwards compatibility so idek if that's a question

tepid yacht
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and everybody bought it

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so

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they will do the same

vague flame
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To be fair, without a second screen I don't know how they would have even done backwards compatibility.

tepid yacht
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well pretty much every wii u game is on switch now, right?

desert pond
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i dont believe every game is on it

lament pebble
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Yesn't

tepid yacht
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they had no issue

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thats why i said

strong galleon
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With some shenanigans to get around the dual screen

tepid yacht
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pretty much

lament pebble
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Quite a few are missing

stiff swift
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Xenoblade X / Zelda HD / Kirby Rainbow / some other minor ones

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oh, Mario Color Splash

gritty ridge
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WHERE IS NINTENDO LAND 2

vague flame
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Where would you put the disc?

strong galleon
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Nintendo Land cryUmaru

desert pond
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so uh...

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stuff the disc in the switch

limber gate
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@spark bane @alpine sluice

alpine sluice
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Oh cool

spark bane
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yeah i already saw it

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and solved the first puzzle heheheha

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(it is not difficult)

lament pebble
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wait what?

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im on the site idk how to do the puzzle

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oh

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Huh i acciently did it

lament pebble
spark bane
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I was yelling about it in VC yesterday

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And I couldn't concentrate on anything else in the Direct after that

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I should watch the TotK trailer again

slate karma
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So true

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They dropped Mario Kart right after it and I did not catch a single thing

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Other than Birdo

spark bane
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It was just Birdo and new Yoshi's Island track

slate karma
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Yeah I know I’ve seen it now lmao

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But in the moment I did not think of anything

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Other than Layton

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GOD

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IT REALLY IS HAPPENING

limber gate
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The whole last section was just banger after banger tbh

wind dagger
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Again the DS comparison

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Or the Wii/Wii u one

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They'll put out the next console even if it isn't a Switch one with the same cartridge style

limber gate
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Nintendo doing a BotW sale

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Only 40$ digitally atm if you are interested

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DLC is on sale as well

wind dagger
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Arlo put out his recap of the direct video and honestly I don't watch Arlo much but his opening statement just really resonates.

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Sometimes it's incredibly hard being a Nintendo fan. It really do be that way sometimes. But this Direct... this is why we're Nintendo fans.

fallow summit
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Comparing wii u vc to nso is also just pulled by the hair

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Wii u vc was horrid for every language that isnt English

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Outright horrid.

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Oh, this gba game? Yeah we know e.g. German exists, here's the English one only, just for you

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Saying you refuse to accept the point of multiplayer is rather ignorant here as well, implementing online multiplayer into a local only is no easy task, not even for emulation devs who are free in every aspect

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The test build leaked also shows various settings used in adjusting, so the games do go through some form of testing
Stating some, since we have also had oot, lol

wind dagger
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Are you for real? Wii U VC didn’t publish in multiple languages??

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As an English speaker I would never have known

fallow summit
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Try finding german Golden Sun

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You cant there lmao

wind dagger
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I just assumed they launched them regionally

fallow summit
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Yeah its highly questionable

wind dagger
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Like NSO

fallow summit
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It was only English, no

wind dagger
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Damn guys I’m so sorry

fallow summit
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For no reason as well

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The ambassador gba games on the 3ds were localised games

wind dagger
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See what I mean? Sometimes being a Nintendo fan sucks

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I think the Wii U era despite many of its strengths came at a hefty cost for most Nintendo fans

fallow summit
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Wii U was a fun console, for what it was worth

wind dagger
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Including my own parents who never bought the Wii U I had to get my own in college a year before the Switch

fallow summit
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But overall im happy with gb(a) online

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Gba has some important bangers inside too

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Minish cap is in, so four swords became exponentially more likely

wind dagger
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GBA is a massive system. In my personal opinion GBA is one of the most important consoles for Nintendo

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It lasted like 4 years and had some of the most impressive games

fallow summit
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Can imagine licensing will be a bit harsh there

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Just like gameboy

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Lots and lots of 3p games

wind dagger
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Oh shoot licensing!’n

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I didn’t even think about it

fallow summit
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Bangers that were mostly nontendo, too

wind dagger
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No Batman Returns Gameboy waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

gritty ridge
fallow summit
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You can't compare those jet

wind dagger
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Oh yeah Genesis lol

gritty ridge
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why not

wind dagger
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Are all the Sonic games on that?

fallow summit
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Nes, snes, etcetc are all local

gritty ridge
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just Sonic 2 and Spinball
Maybe 3D blast?

fallow summit
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You just plug in more controllers to the console

gritty ridge
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Yeah but the framework for online multiplayer is also there

fallow summit
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Its still on the same console. It only shows one singular screen for all

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Handhelds dont have that

gritty ridge
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that's not that big of a leap tho

fallow summit
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Handhelds werent on one system, they were on multiple system

gritty ridge
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it's not like they had to start from scratch with it

proven helm
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Oh is goldeneye a splitscreen online?

wind dagger
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Is it??

fallow summit
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Jet quite frankly the vast majority of us arent even qualified to make a statement like this

wind dagger
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That would be rough lmao

proven helm
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Idk from the little i read here i got confused about the 1 screen. Played some of those games online with others so i mever questioned it before

gritty ridge
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I didn't say I was but that doesn't mean it should be assumed as some huge impossible task either

stiff swift
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sorry about to post a block of dates

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2023 Nintendo-published game calendar as of February 8th, 2023

January 20th, 2023 | Fire Emblem Engage
February 8th, 2023 | Fire Emblem Engage Expansion Pass DLC, Wave 2
February 8th, 2023 | GameBoy: Nintendo Switch Online
February 8th, 2023 | GameBoy Advance: Nintendo Switch Online + Expansion Pack
February 8th, 2023 | Metroid Prime Remastered (Digital Version)
February 15th, 2023 | Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Expansion Pass DLC, Volume 3
February 22nd, 2023 | Metroid Prime Remastered (Physical Version)
February 24th, 2023 | Kirby’s Return to Dream Land Deluxe
March 17th, 2023 | Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon
April 21st, 2023 | Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp
May 12th, 2023 | The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
TBA Spring 2023 | Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass DLC: Wave 4
TBA Spring 2023 | Splatoon 3 Expansion Pass DLC: Wave 1 “Inkopolis”
July 21st, 2023 | Pikmin 4
TBA 2023 | Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass DLC: Wave 5
TBA 2023 | Fire Emblem Engage Expansion Pass DLC, Wave 3
TBA 2023 | Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Expansion Pass DLC, Volume 4
TBA 2023 | Fire Emblem Engage Expansion Pass DLC Wave 4 ~ Fell Xenologue
TBA 2023 | Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass DLC: Wave 6

TBA | Splatoon 3 Expansion Pass: Wave 2 “Side Order”
TBA | Metroid Prime 4

fallow summit
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I never said it. What I said is that its vastly different to just share one single screen and sync it up to all players involved

gritty ridge
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you implied it

fallow summit
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Or emulate a local, shortrange (50cm) wired connection spanning over multiple systems

stiff swift
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This year has a lot of DLC

gritty ridge
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I really think you're over-emphasising the amount of work they had to put in

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and it's still not an excuse for having so little games

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the two things are almost entirely unrelated

proven helm
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Hope they leave it at 1 dlc pass per game lmao

fallow summit
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The work goes in for most handheld games

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All have to work here, not selected ones

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So no, they arent unrelated

gritty ridge
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The processes of adding games and making online work are not connected

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plus very few gba games would need that online stuff

fallow summit
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Lots of gba games had link cable functionality

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Even single player games

wind dagger
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False most GBA games have multiplayer elements

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One of the biggest selling points of the console

stiff swift
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@wind dagger ZELDA CE AT GAMESTOP

fallow summit
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Gb to gbc less so, but still a good amount

wind dagger
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HEH?

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LINK

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?

gritty ridge
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Only 3/6 games added yesterday need the support

slate karma
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There’s a difference between adding just controllers for 1 screen, which is something said system already supports sort of, and having to emulate the function of a whole ass link cable

fallow summit
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And yet all have it by default, since you can play them all in a shared session

gritty ridge
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If it was really that big of a task then the number of games added should not have been sacrificed

slate karma
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I don’t understand how the number of games became such a big issue

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Like sure

fallow summit
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I dont either

slate karma
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I wish there were more at launch

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But they’ll be there

fallow summit
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Its nothing but a bonus to the service I've been paying anyway

desert pond
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Nintendo doesnt have the fireballs to put GBAvideo on NSO

wind dagger
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There’s no buy button

desert pond
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i dare them

wind dagger
fallow summit
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The service didnt become worse because the games added on this new addition arent as many ad person x on the Internet wants

gritty ridge
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I mean if you have no issue with them having 21 SNES games when they introduced that system, but only 6 for GBA, then that's up to you
But I think so many people saying "idk why that's a big issue" is frankly terrifying

fallow summit
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Out of those 21 I played a grand total of like

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3

slate karma
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At least over half of those were SNES games nobody gave a damn about

gritty ridge
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The N64 had more - you know, the system that is notoriously difficult to emulate

slate karma
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Yeah what Andi said

fallow summit
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Games o plenty dont matter if I play bugsy the rabbits rabbithole adventure 2 & knuckles: math edition

gritty ridge
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How many of the games you would personally play is not the point

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If it were the point then from my pov all of them have 0

wind dagger
slate karma
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Yoooooo

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Nice

stiff swift
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Happy for you!

fallow summit
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Fastest hand in the west

gritty ridge
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nice

wind dagger
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Pay day today too

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Hell yeah

slate karma
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Still waiting for retailers to add them here

wind dagger
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The stars aligned

fallow summit
wind dagger
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Now to inevitably have my shipment delayed and not be able to play day 1 🙂

fallow summit
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It just emphasises the point

stiff swift
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Can always cancel it if you can get another drop

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like amazon

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ot target

gritty ridge
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Because it's about the principle of it all
if the service launched with 1 game, people would still be happy with it and be going "oh well they can add more in the future and im sure making the online work was very hard :))"

fallow summit
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Why does it matter how many games if most or all of them are merely shovelware to the players

desert pond
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does anyone here feel a little bit tired with whats happening with the switch been going on for 6-7 years? because i gotta be brutally honest, as great as things are, im getting freaking tired.

stiff swift
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I mean yes

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I'm tired of 2009-era pc power

slate karma
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If we get more technical innovations I could easily use the Switch for 6-7 more years

proven helm
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I hope they do a gameboy looking controller

fallow summit
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LMAO

slate karma
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It’s such a good concept

proven helm
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Like the nes, snes and n64

fallow summit
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They just give you a brick

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It'd be so cool tho

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Having a mini gameboy with a screen in it

slate karma
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Joycons with only a D-pad on the left and A/B on the right

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Lmfaoaooaoa

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Wait that would

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Kinda work

proven helm
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Ikr? Lmaoo. Imagine if you also had the small screen working hahaha

desert pond
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they did make cardboard for the switch with labo, might as well go all the way and charge you 60 bucks for paper

fallow summit
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ok but labo was unironically fun

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I love the little keyboard

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Uh

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Piano

proven helm
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And for the gba you have the standard blue version. And then the extra fancy flip sp version that costs you 100 bucks more

slate karma
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I didn’t get into Labo but I would’ve liked it I think

gritty ridge
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It matters because you are paying a lot of money for something they are putting almost no effort into
The Wii U out-performs the Switch in this regard
The Wii U
It matters not because there are so few, not because they were given so little time, and not because nintendo can get away with it - but because so many people let them.
Them only bothering to port 6 20+ year old handheld games and 9 25+ year old games to Switch, six years after the system launched, for a half-arsed online service they are charging you extortionate prices for should be a bigger deal

but it's fine, because Nintendo fans got to see the little purple square thing again

desert pond
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didnt Gabe Newell say something once in an interview of something being a service problem?

proven helm
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But like. What if they did throw out 15 games in the beginning on both. Who would have the time to play them.
Also ofc its that little. They have new games to sell. Like the gb and gba should not overshadow the soon to come out games

fallow summit
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The wii u vc doesnt outperform.

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The wii u vc is a joke and a half

gritty ridge
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It does
Wii U vc for gba had 8 at launch

eager silo
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Chuggaconroy nothing left to live for gag when

fallow summit
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It also dismisses all 6 other languages most games released in

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No, it doesnt outperform

proven helm
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The wii u needed money. So ofc they threw in more

slate karma
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Also by your terms, 8 is literally only 2 more

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Whats the big deal

gritty ridge
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So many times are awful business practices just passed off because it's Nintendo, and they can add more, and they worked so hard.
Nintendo is a multi billion dollar company and they do not need you to coddle them.
There are so many issues with NSO and this is just another one and it's gonna be forgotten in a few days yet again

limber gate
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Congrats Deemo on grabbing one!

gritty ridge
fallow summit
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You are paying for a online-play service, jet.

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This is what you pay for

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You dont pay for nes etc online

desert pond
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if i might add, you dont have to pay it, its not something mandatory, you can just not play it

limber gate
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And even the PS Basic Tier offers more than Nintendo Online

gritty ridge
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the emulators come as part of the NSO bundle - yes I am paying for them

fallow summit
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These are additions to the service you buy for

wind dagger
slate karma
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Andi means that you’re not paying extra for the emulators

gritty ridge
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^

limber gate
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Like: Nintendo doesn't even offer games monthly, like PS

fallow summit
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...which get expanded upon every so often

slate karma
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He’s a little stupid with words sometimes

wind dagger
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It's all about perspective isn't it?

gritty ridge
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you're just paying over twice as much a year for nothing then?

wind dagger
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In my opinion NSO is a paid subscription service to play video games online with your friends.

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The emulator is just extra bonus.

gritty ridge
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They are advertised as a core part of the service, to the point where a vastly more expensive tier exists solely for them

limber gate
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The Expansion pass is essentially when you pay for the games

wind dagger
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That's why Nintendo being geniuses included DLC for other games with the Expansion Pass

fallow summit
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With nso+ you gained immediate access to DLC for 2 bigger hits, animal crossing and mario kart, as well as bonus emulators

proven helm
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That part doesnt exist for just them?

fallow summit
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With nso+ you are paying for more than just online services

limber gate
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And honestly: Dunno why they don't offer the expansion pass without online

limber gate
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Missed opportunity imo

gritty ridge
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why is the dlc not bonuses but the emulators are? Or is it because you don't want to see the half-arsed part of the service be criticised?

wind dagger
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I could see them adding more

fallow summit
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I didnt count sploon 2,since sploon 3 is out

gritty ridge
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"nono that doesn't count, im not paying for that, it's fine, they put a lot of work into it"

brazen timber
fallow summit
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Alright

eager silo
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This is getting a bit heated

limber gate
fallow summit
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Given that what I write isnt getting read in here, I'll drop out of this discussion

desert pond
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the way i see, NSO's concept of playing together in a subscription service could work on paper, but with how they executed with the way they chose the content and ways of how they handle it with the online and so on, its kinda lackluster in execution. not a bad idea, but the execution is on the weak side.

gritty ridge
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Disagreement is not the same as being ignored

fallow summit
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And it is indeed getting heated, so lets call it off to cool down

stiff swift
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After Splatoon 3 moved to the new NPLN servers I gave up the goat and got a one year NSO sub, granted with gold points

limber gate
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They should just say: Hey, if you buy the expansion pass you can play all our DLCs for games with Online at least or sth

stiff swift
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I was holding out before then

fallow summit
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It was about the points in here, glace

proven helm
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This is kinda off topic right about now. This a channel for direct talk not nso discussion.
Also idk if you did but there was a list of releases so i think that be a cool idea to pin it if not done already

wind dagger
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If I am being honest I almost canceled my NSO+ sub after seeing OOT

slate karma
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I think we did get that pinned yeah

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Or you mean DW’s other list

eager silo
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What we do need is for the n64 emulators to be vastly improved

proven helm
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Oh there was a second list idk if we have 2 versions. Thought i just point it out

tepid yacht
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True imo, gba is not worth until com is added 😎👍

limber gate
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The new one hasn't been pinned yet

slate karma
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CoM who

tepid yacht
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Wtffff

eager silo
brazen timber
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What you are pointing out now is what I mentioned earlier, which got ignored as well. So maybe it is just us lmao

stiff swift
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I posted a nintendo specific list with dates from the direct yes

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that is not pinned

eager silo
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Re chain is on switch (albeit a cloud version) so it’s unlikely they’ll double dip

desert pond
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ew cloud

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lame

stiff swift
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NSO+ isn't a terrible value now IMO

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I just want to be able to own a license to play my games

gritty ridge
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that's true!

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it's passable now

stiff swift
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rather than subscribe to them

tepid yacht
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Wdym double dip

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This is like the morbillion time they've put that Mario game they showed yesterday

desert pond
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im someone that prefers owning something tangible that i can hold in my hands, because something like digital just doesnt hit the same

stiff swift
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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I don't mind digital and it is sometimes cheaper

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but I'm old school and like having a collection

limber gate
spark bane
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I haven't check the price of physical Prime Remastered yet

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time for it to be more expensive

desert pond
tepid yacht
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It's 40 here too

limber gate
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(Tbf, with all the day 1 patches and updates even physical games are dead then)

stiff swift
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Best Buy lists Prime Reastered at 39.99

limber gate
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Wonder if the Prime Physical Edition will be limited, or more pricy

spark bane
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not on amazon wtf...

gritty ridge
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honestly I'll probably sell a bunch of the switch games I don't play to buy Prime Remastered and BotW2

stiff swift
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it was just announced yesterday give it a week lol

spark bane
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non

limber gate
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And the physical is releasing in like 2 weeks first

spark bane
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maybe I should sell some switch games tbh

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only switch games i've sold so far are sonic forces and labo lmao

stiff swift
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I sold a lot of my 3DS games when I was too young to have a job to pay for new games

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I regret it

gritty ridge
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I only have a small physical collection but I barely play switch so

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would rather sell a bunch to buy what I want than just have games gathering dust

desert pond
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even then, its kinda like...a big gamble here, you get games digital with patches and stuff but you lose that innovative feeling of having something that you have in your hands physically, like you got some kind of achievement by holding the game in your hands, it just is something special that no other way can recapture that feeling, you know?

stiff swift
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If it's Nintendo exclusive though I'd make super sure you want to sell it

tepid yacht
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My father sold all of our Ps2 and ps3 games

wind dagger
tepid yacht
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I'll never forgive that

wind dagger
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Let that crap collect dust

gritty ridge
desert pond
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i had to sell my PS2 collection and console to charity

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i will never forgive my family

gritty ridge
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but like
so many times in the past I've stopped myself from selling in case I play it again, and then I don't

wind dagger
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Your Earthbound cartridges LOOSE are $300 right now

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LOOSE.

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AND DAMAGED.

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Games appreciate so much

gritty ridge
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Animal Crossing has been gathering dust for 2.5 years now

wind dagger
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Espcially Nintendo

eager silo
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Show of hands

stiff swift
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My copy of Twilight Princess HD is like $100

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idk how

desert pond
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Nintendo games that you own and are old are really valuable

eager silo
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Who’s interested in Etrian odyssey hd

wind dagger
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I will be buying it

gritty ridge
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half a hand

tepid yacht
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I'd rather keep a game I don't play than selling something I bought for 70€ and get like 20€ at most

gritty ridge
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I mean that's how trading stuff in works

wind dagger
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Timing is everything

tepid yacht
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Ik that's why I don't trade

gritty ridge
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that's fair

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I've kinda always traded tbf

wind dagger
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I beg of you all that if you buy a brand new game that you do not like PLEASE return it asap

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Don't sit on it thinking you need to get your money worth

stiff swift
wind dagger
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Just go back to the store and trade it in.

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Games bought within the first weeks are 1-1

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If you wait 6 months you ain't getting your money back

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Be sure to get your receipt 🙂

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Important note to eShop buyers to never buy something day 1 unless you KNOW you're going to love it

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Until Nintendo gets off their ass and implements a digital return system

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eShop buys are permanent.

stiff swift
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Oh is that so? I thought that only applies if you have never opened the game

gritty ridge
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yeah legit never buy something off eShop lmao

wind dagger
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Trade is key word.

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You're trading it for something else.

gritty ridge
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even if refunds were possible it'd be horrendous

wind dagger
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You are never going to be going back to the store in the first weeks and getting all $60 bac

gritty ridge
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you can always get the game cheaper elsewhere

wind dagger
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They're keeping your tax dollars.

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Anyways

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It's lunch time at work

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Goodbye while I play MP:R

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and cry

stiff swift
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MP:R for lunch is always a good lunch

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enjoy

spark bane
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mario party revengeance?

stiff swift
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I'd ask how the cart tastes but there's no cart yet haha

proven helm
gritty ridge
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anyway apologies for getting heated about gba nso

stiff swift
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Anyways

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The latest 1st party game release we have right now is Pikmin 4 in late July

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versus last year's September

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So maybe we could have an e3-but-not Direct

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there's a lot they'd need to say

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like what's in august, september, october, november, december
DLC dates
3rd party games

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so I'm feeling a little better about an e3 direct this year than last year

gritty ridge
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Pikmin 4 looks very good actually

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I like the new camera

wind dagger
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There will be no E3 direct

gritty ridge
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much more immersive

wind dagger
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Nintendo won't be there

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My money is on Nintendo skipping June entirely.

grand rover
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E3 Is just E Now LunaGalaxyBrain

wind dagger
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They'll do something in July ish

gritty ridge
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nah, September

wind dagger
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They're just going to ride the high of TOTK all through the summer and let Youtube drops do all the announcing.

grand rover
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I'm curious, but how many of you guys suspect nintendo might put mother 3 on JP GBA NSO? ThonkCool

stiff swift
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In japan? very high chance

gritty ridge
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Yeah in Japan

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no way in the west

stiff swift
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Anywhere else? nah because they'd need to translate it

gritty ridge
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Mother 3 can never go overseas officially

grand rover
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I also just realized something

stiff swift
grand rover
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We might be able to get rhythm heaven thanks to NSO Now

stiff swift
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The one with Persona 5 / NieR

grand rover
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Specifially the OG GBA Version

stiff swift
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Was Mario+Rabbids supposed to get DLC?

gritty ridge
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yeah it will soon

stiff swift
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surprised it wasn't in the direct

vague flame
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Probably just Ubisoft being Ubisoft.

wind dagger
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@stiff swift

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60fps?

stiff swift
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This recording is limited to 30fps

wind dagger
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Damn

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I figured

stiff swift
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That doesn't mean the game is 30, just that you recorded in 30

slate karma
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is it weird if I say it doesnt feel like 30

stiff swift
wind dagger
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I guess all Switch captures are 30fps?

stiff swift
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Yeah, the nvidia encoder is set to 30

wind dagger
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Screw you encoder

stiff swift
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you'd need a capture card to properly record it

gritty ridge
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how does the game play with dual-analog?

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is it better than the wii remote?

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that's a stupid question of course it isn't

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is it a noticeable downgrade tho?

wind dagger
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Meh. It's player choice

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It has all the options

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You can play dual stick, pointer, OG Tank gamecube controls, or Gyro

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Dual Stick feels natural to me as someone who grew up playing Dual Stick FPS shooters on Xbox

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So I personally adore it

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But the pointer Wiimote control is probably better overall

stiff swift
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Gyro? that already makes it sound great

gritty ridge
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oh it has gyro?

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that wasn't in the direct lol

stiff swift
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to me

gritty ridge
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gyro controls for shooters is pretty good yeah

wind dagger
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The direct didn't even say it had Wiimote controls

gritty ridge
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gyro for small movements, stick for big movements

wind dagger
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It just said it had "Dual Analog and "classic" controls + more"

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Oh vertical

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My b

stiff swift
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gonna take another look at the trailer and see how the fps feels

tepid yacht
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people that ive seen playing say its constant 60fps

wind dagger
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It is EXTREMELY smooth

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Like almost too smooth

stiff swift
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It's 60 in the trailer. I have no doubt.

wind dagger
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"Remaster"

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This shit is almost ground up. If the environments didn't still have that classic Gamecube touch I'd not be surprised if Retro just rebuilt the assets.

gritty ridge
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I heard the rain can be seen flowing off your gun now

wind dagger
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Sure does

gritty ridge
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I think that's how a remaster is done right lol

wind dagger
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And flows differently depending on which way you're looking.

gritty ridge
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not specifically that but that sort of approach

wind dagger
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Also the raindrops on your gun are visible when moving out into the rain and into cover.

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And when moving into cover they slide off until they're gone

stiff swift
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10 years ago remaking textures, models, and other assets would be considered a remake. Nowadays it's a remaster for some reason.

gritty ridge
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mm, maybe I'll really have to try it

stiff swift
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idk why that goalpost moved

wind dagger
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I know for a FACT that Samus' gunship is completely remade

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It did NOT look like that on GCN

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Maybe not completely

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But that model is way better.

stiff swift
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IMO
Port -> Same game, graphics, resolution.
Remaster -> Same game, graphics, higher resolution /or FPS
Remake -> Same game, remade graphics, higher resolution /or FPS
Reimagining -> New gameplay loop, remade graphics, higher resolution /or fps

gritty ridge
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ig cause nowadays there are a lot more "from the ground up" remakes

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it's less the goalposts have shifted, just definitions have changed

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Prime Remastered is fundamentally built on top of the original

stiff swift
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I suppose

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I just feel like it devalues the work to call a game that remakes most things a remaster

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not a fan of it at all

gritty ridge
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I get that

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Ig it's all subjective tho

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like by your definition the new RE2 and 3 games are reimaginings, but most people just call them remakes

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and Wind Waker HD would be a remake, despite the fact that most people would consider it a remaster, if not just a port

stiff swift
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That is how I would consider it, but like you said it's become a pretty subjective thing.

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Whenever I mention it I usually just say "x game remake/remaster/whateveryouwannacallit"

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But anyways

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I heard that MP:R is developed by Retro Studios

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That's pretty major

wind dagger
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It's got their name on it

gritty ridge
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MPR is actually MP4

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actually it'd be MP5

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MP4 is already out

stiff swift
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I'd love to datamine it and see if anything can be found about it's dev history ngl

spark bane
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so is MP5 and MP6 and MP7 and MP8 and MP9 and MP10 this joke was never funny

stiff swift
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new funky mode

gritty ridge
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it's funny if I tell it

spark bane
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they should've put that in prime remastered

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thats why i'm not buying it

stiff swift
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lol

wind dagger
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I mean valid criticsm I've seen online is that it's just the first one

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But I've been expecting a first MP1 remaster/HD for a while so it's fine with me.

spark bane
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nah i never played prime and for $40 i'm down

wind dagger
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I'll buy all three Primes all day

spark bane
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just gotta Get Money first

wind dagger
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I've technically already bought MP:R twice 🙂

gritty ridge
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if they did all three games they'd charge $120 for it

wind dagger
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Digitally and pre-ordered the physical coming the 24th

spark bane
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nvm time for PrimeHack

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(kidding i want to support retro studios/metroid franchise)

wind dagger
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To kinda quote Arlo again here

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Metroid is a fairly small franchise by most of Nintendo's IP standards

gritty ridge
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metroid is tiiinnnyyy

stiff swift
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I think it's interesting how GC/Wii Zelda "remasters" are 60 and Metroid is 40

tepid yacht
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i hope Prime sells well

wind dagger
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The Nintendo Switch is quickly becoming the number 1 console to play Every single Metroid

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We're only missing like 4 games now

tepid yacht
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i think prime might appeal more the casual players than Dread does

wind dagger
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Prime is just so comfy

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I'm loving it

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Nintendo really #1 right now

tepid yacht
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even myself im thinking of getting it

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i have never played metroid lmao

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i tried super metroid but i got super stuck and left it

strong galleon
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Nintendo #1 if only for old tired shulk and dilf rex

gritty ridge
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that's metroidvania for you

stiff swift
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I'll deffo want to get Prime:R eventually

wind dagger
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Metroid Prime is actually super friendly to MV haters/dislikers

stiff swift
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I didn't see Rex in that DLC trailer

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it didn't really look like him

wind dagger
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Plenty of hints and helpful information given. The map is way nicer

stiff swift
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or sound like him

gritty ridge
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brown hair anime boy is obviously rex

strong galleon
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wait dw are you /srs

wind dagger
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True I wasn't immediately pissed off and yelling SHUT UP so it couldn't be Rex.

stiff swift
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I thought it was a Lanz counterpart ngl

wind dagger
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"SO TOGETHA THEY'RE LIKE.... ULTRA POWAHFUL?"

tepid yacht
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i thought it was Reyn at first lmfao

wind dagger
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Shut the hell up you stupid boy

gritty ridge
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deemo you can't say that word

stiff swift
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Though tbh I need to look at it again

wind dagger
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Sorry. Shut the hell up you boy

gritty ridge
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deemo you can't say that word

stiff swift
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I haven't had to chance to deep dive the trailers

strong galleon
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I think holding Pyra and Mythra and standing next to Shulk should be enough

stiff swift
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Oh were they?

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I missed that

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That would make it make sense

strong galleon
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dual wielder baby

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he's just Old

wind dagger
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The expansion pass thumbnail thing has all of the blades in it DW lmao

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I'm pretty sure they're all there.

strong galleon
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no, no deemo in the story dlc trailer, Rex was holding both Pyra and Mythra's swords

wind dagger
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The Monado, the Xenoblade, the Xenoblade Again

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Oh

stiff swift
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what Aelia said

wind dagger
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I'm PRETTY SURE I saw the Monado, Pyra blade, and the one from 3 in one of the stills.

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Like stabbed into the ground

strong galleon
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yeah yeah you're right

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that's the dlc image

wind dagger
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Yeah

strong galleon
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but I was talking about another thing lol

gritty ridge
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observe

wind dagger
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Gosh he still looks like a total dweeb lord.

strong galleon
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how DARE monolith making me heart eyes at REX

wind dagger
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No Aelia please

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It's REX.

gritty ridge
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I mean

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I kinda get it

strong galleon
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he looks like his adoptive father figure waaGONE

wind dagger
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Gramps??

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That thing is an alien

strong galleon
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no lol the other one

proven helm
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he also sounds like him

wind dagger
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No he does not

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No he does NOT.

gritty ridge
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he looks like one of the little furry egg things but human

wind dagger
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I don't want to sound like a hater but Rex's voice is nails on chalkboard for me.

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I would know if Al Weaver was doing his thing

proven helm
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lmao

stiff swift
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Vandahm?

wind dagger
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Maybe Al had a different direction or didn't pitch his voice to sound like an actual toddler I want to punt into the sun

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Kinda like Sonic in Frontiers

strong galleon
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hmm looking at it again it's more xc3 vandham and less xc2

proven helm
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i was talking about his older trailer voice

stiff swift
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It really doesn't look like Rex at all to me lol
but ig the swords point to that

strong galleon
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his arm looks like it has salvager gear

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hair has the same part

wind dagger
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I love how Aelia is so excited but you know

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hasn't uh

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you know

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finished the damn game.

strong galleon
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shut up

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it's a LONG GAME

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I HAVE A FULL TIME JOB

wind dagger
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YOU'VE HAD OVER 6 MONTHS.

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IT CAME OUT IN JULY.

strong galleon
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admire me for not starting fire emblem engage

wind dagger
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Won't do it.

strong galleon
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until I finish xc3

wind dagger
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Will not do it.

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No admiration

stiff swift
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🥴

gritty ridge
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see i've already finished the whole game and all the dlc

stiff swift
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I'm just

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over the moon about ||Alvis||

wind dagger
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Giving XC3 the ol' Claude route treatment.

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Ain't never gonna finish

strong galleon
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LISTEN I AM DOING MY BEST cryUmaru

stiff swift
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oh boy you have a doc for it 😆

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Not that I blame you

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153 quests!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

strong galleon
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i want to get to as close as 100% as possible because I can't fathom having the time to run the whole thing again with my backlog and everything else going on 😦

stiff swift
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I knew XC3 was like 60% quests but

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WOW

strong galleon
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there's some missing too

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like some of the ones where you finish the quest and then meet them again later to do a similar thing

stiff swift
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XC3 is a weird game with the quest to main story ratio

strong galleon
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at the very least I enjoy the hero quests

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the ascension quests I feel are borderline main story quests

wind dagger
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I'll say it again like i've said it before

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Nintendo should contract Monolith to make a Xenoblade MMO.

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The entire game plays like one anyway

tepid yacht
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I got to a point where I skipped every side quest cutscenes /dialogue lmao

wind dagger
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And XC3 has the most MMO style quest system I've ever seen

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Ridiculous amount of fetch quests and kill quests.

stiff swift
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Xenoblade X is an MMO without the MMO

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mostly

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there is some player and player interactions

wind dagger
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Imo they all are.

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XC2 even has the hotbar style HUD.

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XC1 too

stiff swift
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They all do to a degree

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But Xenoblade X is like

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that on steroids

wind dagger
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XC3 is the one that doesn't feel MMO ish with its HUD design

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The simple 8 button design for attacks is way nicer.

strong galleon
wind dagger
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Might be thinking XC on that lmao

strong galleon
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XC1 literally has quests that are just "Kill"

wind dagger
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Considering I've been playing both

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I will say XC3's colony quests are LOADS LOADS LOADS better

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Actual NPC development

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I love all of the Send Off questlines with emotional tie ins

stiff swift
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XC3 colony quests should have been part of the main story

strong galleon
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honestly I actually Know NPC Names in this one

stiff swift
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IMO

wind dagger
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I will never forget the quest in XC in the big lake city

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What's it?

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Alhaitham?

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What's it?

stiff swift
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Eryth Sea

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Alcamoth

wind dagger
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No the city

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Yeah Alcamoth

strong galleon
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Alhaitham LAugh

wind dagger
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Right?

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The one the girl Mark simps for comes from

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The princess

stiff swift
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What quest are you referring to

strong galleon
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there's. a lot of those in alcamoth friend

wind dagger
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Curly hair

stiff swift
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there are a lot

wind dagger
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Nah the one quest from the dad that's like I LOST MY KIDS HELP ME

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And his kid is literally 4 steps away

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I wanted to punch Monolith

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How is that a quest you dullards.

stiff swift
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yeah xc1 has some dated stuff like that

wind dagger
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Wasting my time.

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THAT'S that MMO shit

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Hot off the press

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Do nothing get nothing as reward

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More stuff to shove into your bag

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World of Warcraft has those kinds of quests patented.

tepid yacht
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I stopped playing wow in pandaria bc of this mainly

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Well and many other reasons lmao

stiff swift
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So not just Retro

proven helm
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hope they dont pull a Sonic 06 and have halve the team work on remastering the games

stiff swift
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I'm a bit surprised they didn't even mention MP4.

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Like, with Dread they confirmed development was still going on

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at least something like that

gritty ridge
wind dagger
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Dude these comparisons omg

strong galleon
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wow

wind dagger
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I know I'm hyperbolic 24/7

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Serious Deemo moment here

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I legit cried launching the game. Actually incredible work from Retro

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Only thing that isn't remastered is the music I think

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Which is great becuase Prime's OST is perfection

strong galleon
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yeah it would be like remastering the BW soundtrack who would do that

wind dagger
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Also I've figured it out. Well me and my buddy did

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This is what's going to happen

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Nintendo is primed with a massive dump of IP video games this year. Firing on all cylinders. With the Mario Movie in April they would be fools not to drop a new Mario game

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Only problem is with Mario Kart 8 not going anywhere and Zelda TOTK launching in May... what's their flagship to sell new hardware???

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Easy. Mario.

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So holiday 2023 is going to be 2D Mario and/or a Donkey Kong game

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Mario Galaxy 3 or Odyssey 2 dropping a year from now with Switch 2

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and it's going to come like the 3DS

gritty ridge
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donkey kong game would never push units

wind dagger
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Switch 2 has brand new carts but can play Switc hgames.

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It's not going to it's the holiday launch

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Just the final hurrah for the Switch

grand rover
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I also wonder what features the switch 2 may be able to use ThonkCool

wind dagger
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Switch 2 launch title is 3D Mario. Comes with menu themes and that's it

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Everyone goes crazy

grand rover
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As I'd assume that'll have a pretty speedy SSD

wind dagger
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$500 console

grand rover
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Then maybe that could even tie into the next 3D Mario using it as an advantage 😼

wind dagger
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For real though it'll be a bit bulkier. THey might even abandon the mobile style and relegate that to the Switch Lite line of products and make something more homebased.

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But I foresee a Steam Deck sized console

stiff swift
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I suspect the next Switch will use a custom Tegra Orin (Tegra239) chip

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you know what i just realized

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there were no cloud versions in this Direct

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That's semi-significant

pulsar tartan
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Yeah, I had that on my Bingo card and everything.

limber gate
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Wanna see a huge Layton fan react to Layton announcement?

desert pond
void blaze
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Lythro

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Because of course lythro would post that lmao

wind dagger
pulsar tartan
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On a whim, I decided to watch through the Japanese version of the Direct (sped up for the most part). It's fascinating to compare the two, see what's in one but not the other, note the differences in ordering, and so forth.
I think their rapid-fire sizzle format is a lot better. It actually has voiceover and uses music from the games being presented instead of some random licensed track that makes the lives of anyone making reaction content of the Direct that much more difficult. (I know Tom Fawkes at least had to remove the music and reupload his reaction due to a copyright claim.)

wind dagger
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Yeah. I’ve watched a few reactions now and most who uploaded just mute during the sizzle reel

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Except for Asmongold who probably doesn’t care at this point

pulsar tartan
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Also, if I were basing my Bingo card off the Japanese version, I'd be able to mark off "JRPG Farming Sim", since Rune Factory 3 Special was shown again. Would almost be able to get "Non-Octopath Squ'eenix JRPG", but I'm pretty sure Paranormasight isn't an RPG. (Neither is Theatrhythm FF, for that matter, as tempting as it is to claim it as such.)

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Speaking of RF3S, it's listed in both the Direct and on the JP eShop as releasing on March 2, but the US eShop still lists it as "Spring 2023" with a rating pending. Wonder if there was a localization hitch and they'll end up delaying it.

eager silo
wind dagger
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Oh

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Hey per your conversation from earlier this might be a good reason why games took a while/are less of them. Seems like a lot of work went into the NSO emulator.

https://twitter.com/luigiblood/status/1624005571815899136?s=46&t=JYOHBYcRaHCJEJuziG0EDg

The GBA Switch Online passes the AGS Test Suite with flying colors. Not a lot of GBA emulators actually do this.
I tried the mGBA Test Suite where it definitely fails a bunch but still passes a majority of tests.

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The thread has it in there but mGBA does not pass like this

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This test in layman’s terms is designed to test the “hardware” and see how games run. The NSO GBA seems like it runs extremely close to original hardware making it even better than some PC emulators

fossil shell
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Oh wow really? That's pretty cool

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I saw this post earlier but didn't really know what it meant

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Now I do thank you

wind dagger
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Does this mean Nintendo wasn’t able to put more games up no not really

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But it does tell us that the team required to make the emulator for NSO GBA did a really good job and most likely spent most of their time on the emulator than the games

fossil shell
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It's probable for sure

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Makes me wonder why the N64 emulator wasn't as good as this one though (at first at least)

desert pond
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i guess emulating 3D games mustve been a bit more difficult of a task compared to 2d games

fossil shell
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It's possible

pulsar tartan
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N64 in particular is notoriously hard to emulate. Not sure all of the details myself, but there's something weird about how it handles graphics.

vague flame
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N64 is notoriously difficult to emulate.