AU Switches and Energy Monitoring

[empty light]

The UniFi gear is why you haven't experienced any issues

Most Wifi issues are caused by the standard ISP router (which is where mine first started)

Which I think a lot of people who start slowly increasing their smart home devices with Wifi stuff will get caught out

[floral garden]

The way I see it, is its 2 birds with 1 stone, better WiFi to use in/around the house, and there was a few smart products that only had WiFi versions, and when I started I didn't have Z-Wave or Zigbee setup at all, and didnt wanna muck around with a hub or anything. Same reason I got Lifx lights over Hue

[empty light]

Yeah which is a fair point. I just don't like the "closed box" of a wifi device on my network. What is it doing? What packets is it sending? Can it be hacked to pivot into my network?

For me that's a concern, for others they can live with it I guess

[floral garden]

Over the years I've also cooked ISP routers from over-use with just a handfull of devices, so maybe im just a bit more pesimistic about ISP routers than even the average home automation person

Yeah, well other benefit of UniFi, I can put them all on their own VLAN thats restricted, I've got DNS filtering/logging so I can see if they are trying to get to somewhere sketchy, but I haven't had any problems at all yet

[empty light]

For the zwave switches and Clipsal, they work in combination. The zwave module does the actual controlling, dimming etc. The Clipsal button is just a momentary switch, which sends a note to the module that it has been pressed

[empty light]

Yeah, and unfortunately that goes beyond the average home user. The fact that doing that is needed (or recommended) says something is wrong with the way Wifi is being used there.

[floral garden]

Ah sounds like they work together better than I was expecting. I've seen people online use a regular latching switch as an input, then they have to like toggle it a couple times to auctally change it, which would drive me crazy

[floral garden]

Yeah, I guess I just knew nothing about Zigbee/Z-wave but I know how to do Networking, so I stuck to what I knew

[empty light]

nothing wrong with that

[floral garden]

Also all the talk about Matter over the last couple years, almost seams a bit silly to start with Zigbee/Z-Wave since I don't have either when all the companies seam to be going towards Matter, but there just seams to be a lot more talk about Matter than auctal products

[empty light]

Yeah, that's my hold up. Do I wait? Do I commit? In the end I've made DIY work for me with Home Assistant, so I'm sure I'll be able to integrate matter and non-matter things in the future as needed

[quaint cosmos]

So what's your take on this saturn button+module setup compared to the clipsal iconic bt/zigbee pushbuttons? (aside from them being costly in the scheme of switches and modules)

[empty light]

Interesting I haven't seen these to be honest.

The app throws me off, but if they truly are ZigBee then it should be controllable from a ZigBee controller.

The issue there is ZigBee. Will these work out of the box with ZHA/Deconz/ZigBee2Mqtt? Or am I going to have to fiddle with code myself to get it to work?

At $135, it would be cheaper than a module + smart switch... maybe. I personally think I'd be happy to pay a bit more and get zwave modules with some different Clipsal switches (personal asthetic choice)