Matter light bulb recommendation

[tidal stag]

Hey, so I wanna buy a matter light bulb for my home assistant, over Amazon, which is the best or a good one I can buy? The best if the price isn't too high.

[young wyvern]

you should give more information, type of bulb / colours / country you are in etc...

[tidal stag]

I'm in Germany and I wanna a "normal" light bulb the size idk rn but I can look for it. And it should be a RGB type. I thought it wouldn't really matter

[tiny mulch]

One opinion: Aqara for light quality, IKEA for Preisleistung

[tidal stag]

I currently don't have a thread bridge. And I think my home assistant doesn't have Bluetooth rn. Can I use WiFi for it? Cause Aqara seems to use matter over thread

[tiny mulch]

Then I’d personally go for the new ikea thread bulbs plus a zbt-2 (but have only had the zbt-2 for a few days now so not a hard vouch)

[tidal stag]

How they feel like?

[tiny mulch]

Ikea thread bulbs are cheap, responsive and decent lighting quality, just a bit more of a yellow glow at warmest K hue, aqara go rosy / pinkish at warmest end of white spectrum

And the exposed filament globes are quite cool

[tidal stag]

But I don't have thread... Is an adapter expensive?

[onyx folio]

https://geizhals.de/nabu-casa-home-assistant-connect-zbt-2-a3658959.html

or https://www.ebay.de/itm/127004646342?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=707-53477-19255-0&toolid=20006&campid=5337770552&customid=lSMf3bIdkMIZL7Icub_Isw

there are cheaper ones, but these are the better ones..

[tidal stag]

Yeah they aren't cheap... But I don't need sooooo much coverage, u think a cheaper one would work for me or is it really better with these one?

[onyx folio]

cheaper ones do work, but comparing cheap vs. better personally, i had cheap one, lot of errors and not starting everytime when haos booted made me switch to the slzb-06. This solved my errors and a plus is that you can power it by PoE, meaning you're free to place it anywhere if lan cable can be run to it. So in short, will cheap work > yes. Will more expensive run better > also yes.. 😉

[tidal stag]

PoE doesn't matter for me bc I don't have that. So you would also say one of these two?

[tidal stag]

Does that even support Matter? Isn't that just Zigbee?

[onyx folio]

yes, if you want to support home assistant / open home foundation go for the zbt-2

look at my picture above

ah didnt post wait

[tidal stag]

What happens if there is matter over Bluetooth?

[tidal stag]

Can you maybe explain these three different Zigbee modes? For me they sound kinda the same

[tidal stag]

Is that everything on just the small device you sent?! DNS and VPN?!

[onyx folio]

zigbee coordinator is normal use where device controls everything, zigbee router mode extends the signal from another device setup as coordinator, zigbee hub acts as a hub (dont..) Matter over Thread speaks for itself and for bluetooth, i dont know, never used it. might try goolgle for this one

[tidal stag]

Okay thank you!

[onyx folio]

yes, all onboard.

[tidal stag]

So the coordinator is like the router of a home network for thread devices?

[onyx folio]

sort of yes

[tidal stag]

Tf.... Can it use a VPN connection itself? So then technically u could deploy it anywhere where u have Internet and then connect to ur home assistant @ home?

[onyx folio]

you set everything up in the coordinator.

router will act as extender, just like most smartplugs and lightbulbs

[tidal stag]

Yeah because it's a mesh network. This is the thing I already know. ;)

[onyx folio]

I am using nabu cloud, so no needs for vpn. Also google or maybe other eyes are watching us type may hop in for answer..

[tidal stag]

Wdym?

I use Cloudflared so I can save the money on that side

(I wanna have it but yeah...)

[tidal stag]

Nice! So it's only a client ;)

So which one of these two would you recommend more?

[onyx folio]

my secret choice will reveal itself with the picture above, lol

running the slzb-06 for a while with zero errors

have not used the other, so cant compare directly

[tidal stag]

Then I'll take a look ;) Or when another device I wanna buy needs something it can't handle I use the other one

So back to the lamps ;)

[tidal stag]

(one shot thing: only on eBay or also Amazon?)

[onyx folio]

dont like matter yet, i still use zigbee, cheaper, no issues. For good colours, use hue or innr, for cheaper ones look at ali for matter bulbs. avoid tuya at all btw

[onyx folio]

do a search, im different country, hard to check

[tidal stag]

Currently I have a bit of a hue led stripe. But RN I can only use it with my mobile phone.
Rn I have a tuya temperature sensor bc a friend has the same but yeah I wanna use local stuff.

But don't I need the hue bridge if I wanna use them?

[onyx folio]

nope, at least for me using zigbee, i dont need the bridge because your coordinator replaces it

[tidal stag]

Ahhhhh good to know! Then I have to buy the controller first and then maybe next month or so the lamp

Thank you so much!

[onyx folio]

np, glad to help a bit. If further help is needed, shout out. If resolved check the resolved box 😉

[tidal stag]

If there is something I will let ya know

[tidal stag]

Sorry to disturb u again... But I wanna buy one now but still I can't decide which one I want bc this one has a nice UI but idk if the other one has one too to configure it.
And I wanna have matter too so not only matter-over-thread or do you think that it's enough?

[onyx folio]

matter is language spoken, thread etc. is the route that is taken. Again, no friend of matter at this point, so cant advise it 😉 Zigbee wont go away and is in my opinion preferred option. And a lot cheaper..

[tidal stag]

And I saw online on the site of the device of nabu that it can't run Zigbee and thread at the same time. Would that be a problem?
I wanna buy later the Shelly Powerstrip 4 gen 4. I know that it supports a lot of protocols but what if I need the other later? Or do ya think that would not be a problem for me?

If not then I think I will test the device of nabu ig. I would still have a Money-Back when I really really don't like it (because of whatever) ?

I use home assistant since a year now but didn't touched the water for the smart Home devices except a temp/ humidity sensor with tuya (and I regret it but now have to use it)

[onyx folio]

yeah... Tuyaaahh.... The shelly Gen4 series offer wifi, matter and zigbee. So still zigbee to use. You cant run multiple protocols with those at the same time, so you would need 1 for matter and 1 for zigbee. But again, as long as matter protocol has not matured, stick with sickbee

https://tenor.com/view/bee-cute-animated-puke-vomit-gif-17286964

[tidal stag]

I still can't decide

[onyx folio]

Zigbee smlight slzb-06

https://tenor.com/view/that's-my-approach-to-it-sonakshi-sinha-pinkvilla-that's-how-i-approach-life-that's-the-way-i-do-it-gif-6735798262170297712

[tidal stag]

Is it the one u already sent? Because if otherwise I can't find that. I'm from Germany and one of them is only UK.

I found them but idk

https://geizhals.de/5640423769

https://geizhals.de/5640424314

[onyx folio]

i have the -06 without letter. but your links are good too

[tidal stag]

So which one? The p7 or the p10?

(still have to pay the package costs)

[onyx folio]

only diff is the chipset p10 is faster, ram p10 has more and max number of devices that can pair is for p10 400 and for p7 300.. so if prices are roughly the same, go for p10.

[tidal stag]

There's a difference of 10€ so you would say the (all costs included) of 71,48€ are really good?

[onyx folio]

i think 10 euro more for p10 is worth it. more ram and better chipset result in faster hardware

and more futureproof

[tidal stag]

Thank you! And I even have a month to test because for that period they don't ask and accept :)

Right of withdrawal
You have the right to withdraw from this contract within one month without giving any reason.

[tidal stag]

It will come this week ig. It says 8. or 9. January. So if I need help I can ask ya?

Aaand I think I should rename the post but idk to what

[onyx folio]

if having issues we all are here to help, create a new thread if needed and you might tag this one as resolved 😉

[tidal stag]

Oh- it already was xD

[bright pasture]

@tidal stag If your are going to use the SLZB-06 via USB with HA just for thread, you are essentially not using 80% of what you just bought. You could as well just plug an SLZB-07 for a 3rd or half the price and be happy. It'll do the very same.
Either way you go you would have to flash the thread firmware upfront, but that's actually very easy.

[tidal stag]

I already bought it... So idk

[tidal stag]

it would be fr just 10 €... so it doesn't matter at all