compact tangle
Hi,
as the title already mentioned, I am quite new to this whole DIY smarthome thing.
I have following things:
What would be a good box to get that can support all those devices with ease?
I do also have an old PC, that i could use, but that thing would eat too much power, that's why i would rather get the box directly from HA.
spark tulip
so uh i am not good with suggesting hardware but probably for those any ha box would directly from nabu casa would do so what i would suggest is just get whatever is easier and requires less diy if you are new
and if you dont want to spend any cash you can probably run it as a container on those nases from synology
take my suggestion with a grain of salt because i am no expert when it comes to ha hardware just my suggestion
side note of course no matter how powerful the box is if ha itself doesnt support the brand and there are no third party integration then you cant connect them although i highly doubt you will run into that problem ha has an absurd number of integrations
limber comet
Hi,
as the title already mentioned, I am quite new to this whole DIY smarthome ...
I have some notes on the subject HERE
for a basic setup then something like a green is a great starting point.
compact tangle
I have some notes on the subject [HERE](https://gist.github.com/MichaelMKKelly/7...
hey, thanks! I completely forgot about miniPCs!
I could probably get a miniPC rather than Green box, if i want a bit more power for addons etc
However, the linked miniPC there is sold out
spark tulip
just a reminder mini pcs need more setup but that is no problem there are great guides and videos onlines plus the guide on the ha site is awesome
in itself if you are a bit technical it will be no biggie
compact tangle
I have run VMs and other enviroments before, so that should not be an issue
spark tulip
oh yea if you have done that in the past then you are probably fine
limber comet
However, the linked miniPC there is sold out
many places sell beelink stuff but it depends where in the world you are too i imagine
compact tangle
I am in the great lands of Bratwurst and Beer.
slate olive
Do you want to be able to run voice commands locally if the inet is down?
compact tangle
Do you want to be able to run voice commands locally if the inet is down?
no, i just want one dashboard where i can control every smart home device
limber comet
I am in the great lands of Bratwurst and Beer.
compact tangle
currently i have like 5 apps, which is very annoying
slate olive
no, i just want one dashboard where i can control every smart home device
Control in like service and docker management?
limber comet
if you are thinking new mini-pc then get it early before stocks run out. i can see them disappearing for a bit because it wont be worth putting ram in them.
compact tangle
Control in like service and docker management?
controll like this i mean :D
limber comet
i recomend beelink only really because i have used them and i have had good experiences. some others are also great
compact tangle
aw heck the recording is broken because of HDR, but you get the idea :D
slate olive
Not control like this?
spark tulip
Not control like this?
that is the rabbit hole of ha you want a smart home then you find out what llms are and then you are like how the f did i get here
limber comet
Not control like this?
showing off your mqtt stuff? 😛
compact tangle
Not control like this?
now i am confused
spark tulip
dont worry about that its stuff ha can do if you are technical
slate olive
showing off your mqtt stuff? 😛
Stopping sevices with mqtt sounds insecure. This is ssh
spark tulip
in essence anything and everything can be done with ha if you are technical
compact tangle
if you are thinking new mini-pc then get it early before stocks run out. i can s...
let's see if there are any left thanks to the AI bubble and RAM inflation
limber comet
yeah HA can be a small project or a big one really.
slate olive
let's see if there are any left thanks to the AI bubble and RAM inflation
The still in market are good to buy
Need to hurry
limber comet
the important thing when your first starting out is to take things one at a time and enjoy the small wins. if you try and do everything at once you will burn out etc...
slate olive
Also haos backup restore is like a charm. You can easily upgrade your hardware
compact tangle
in essence anything and everything can be done with ha if you are technical
Well, in theory yes, but i have a job and tingling with HA wont be my main hobby, since that is 3D Design and animation
so time might be a big factor here
slate olive
Well, in theory yes, but i have a job and tingling with HA wont be my main hobby...
Well the default dashboards are automatically filling up. Just add a device and assign it to a room and its in a dashboard
compact tangle
300 bucks
limber comet
300 bucks
that looks like an older n95 version of the s12. i would look for a n150 s13
compact tangle
i would also use it for plex, but then i need hardware encoding e.g. a dedicated gpu
slate olive
i would also use it for plex, but then i need hardware encoding e.g. a dedicated...
Modern cpus do that build in
slate olive
i would also use it for plex, but then i need hardware encoding e.g. a dedicated...
Ever heard about linux or proxmos?
compact tangle
Modern cpus do that build in
You can't generate thumbnails on the fly without a dedicated gpu sadly
limber comet
i would also use it for plex, but then i need hardware encoding e.g. a dedicated...
to be fair you can do basic transcoding with a n150.
you could use proxmox. use a VM for HAOS and an LXC for plex with access to the cpu transcoder.
compact tangle
Ever heard about linux or proxmos?
I have currnetly a linux mint running for my old PC, but that's just for trying things out and breaking things
slate olive
You can't generate thumbnails on the fly without a dedicated gpu sadly
I have a jellyfin server on a none dedicated gpu system works fine
limber comet
depends on quality/stream-count etc...
slate olive
I have currnetly a linux mint running for my old PC, but that's just for trying ...
Well you can run haos as a VM with libvirt
compact tangle
I have a jellyfin server on a none dedicated gpu system works fine
yep, i also did try this fork. Did not work
limber comet
yeah its worth saying
BOO down with plex
YAY up with jellfin
compact tangle
i do have a lifelong license with plex, so it would be stupid not to use it
spark tulip
so time might be a big factor here
ha will corrupt you like it did with us
from one day you will be adding lights the other you will be using mqtt
compact tangle
oh gawd oh no
limber comet
i do have a lifelong license with plex, so it would be stupid not to use it
yeah that's fair enough. but also you could run both against the same library to try it out
compact tangle
D:
slate olive
ha will corrupt you like it did with us
I was already corrupted ha is only a stimulation
spark tulip
i mean you could run ha as an os and then run plex as an addon if you want the easiest solution
spark tulip
I was already corrupted ha is only a stimulation
same with me
it all started with debian and casa os and now i am running a proxmox server with ha and a docker vm that runs over 25 services
compact tangle
yeah that's fair enough. but also you could run both against the same library to...
jellyfin is the opensourcce one iirc, there was another one that was not and jellyfin is a fork from it. What was the name again
spark tulip
i use jellyfin and sonarr radarr to auto organise stuff
slate olive
Jellyfin runs at a 7 year old i5 laptop. No issues
compact tangle
i tried to get ffmpeg to generate the scrollable video thumbnails automatically from my main PC, but that caused so much slow-down
oh and one thing i am very bumbed about is that none of them display a big collection of photos well.
I'm currently using Synology Photos to sync all camera photos from multiple devices with my server.
I first wanted to use plex for that, but that was so bad. You need two seperate android apps to display video or photo on your phone..... which is like, whaaaaaaaaat
spark tulip
hey just a good idea for a first atuomation
if the nases support wol you can create an automation that restarts them or something
i personally want to eventually do that for my pc with wol and rpc shutdown
compact tangle
the do even support WOP, but i have a timer for the auto restart, no need for wake on lan
I turn my PC on with WOP from my phone with the smart plugs :D
Back to the mini PC
which one do i get?
what if I salvage the old PC i have?
It has a rtx 2070s with 32 gigs of ddr3 (i think) ram
the processor is very old tho, it's an i7 6700k
i would also maybe even want to install win11pro on it, so i can use it as a render node in cinema4D
limber comet
riiiiiight, emby
yeah emby was opensource but they went closed source and jellyfin forked to stay opensourcee at that time. they have been split a long time now and pretty different.
compact tangle
yep
limber comet
for a mini pc I would look for something with a n150. although some of the newer ones are having issues with ethernet controllers not being supported. but worst case you can add a usb adaptor for now.
compact tangle
I think i am actually going to salvage my old PC.
it should be cheaper buying just a new MB and low spec CPU than a 300 bucks mini pc
limber comet
yeah. sometimes the best hardware is the hardware you already have.
compact tangle
Time to play Arc Raider in real life
static mortar
hey, thanks! I completely forgot about miniPCs!
I could probably get a miniPC ...
Get a mini pc
compact tangle
lmao
limber comet
its very easy to move in the future if you need to. you just make a backup and restore it on a new install somewhere else.
compact tangle
backup of what?
limber comet
backup of what?
home assistant has a backup system built in. which you can use to move your install to a new system if you want/need to.
compact tangle
aaah okay. That is great
limber comet
just keep the backup file and the encryption key for it safe 🙂