Why are these
https://a.co/d/3L0KaGV
So much cheaper than these?
https://a.co/d/gKSnMM2
#Why are these so much cheaper?
lusty knoll
Even if you don't count the sale the tapo ones are on they're a lot cheaper
But they're from the same company and seem to have the same specs
solar portal
Because someone is making more than the other, or someone is knocking off the other or because one is coming from a different country or because it's Thursday.
Maybe you should ask them?
lusty knoll
Because someone is making more than the other, or someone is knocking off the ot...
If you don't know just don't answer, I can make a bunch of random guesses too
You obviously didn't even read my post before commenting so just don't comment
solar portal
You obviously didn't even read my post before commenting so just don't comment
Fine, but a post with 8 words I was definitely able to read. I even read the 29 word one.
I took it as a comment on society and not a serious question, this is true. I did make the assumption that this is not the first time you saw marketing at work in society.
Why is the rotisserie chicken at Cosco twice as big and less price than the one at the local grocery store? Because big companies can lure you in with a loss leader and this get's you to look at their other stuff or in this case buy into the universe of their products.
Your question, why is the price different. Answer, marketing.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/lossleader.asp
And how this is Home Assistant Related, I have no idea...
modern siren
another simple answer would be that after buying these cheap thingies, you would be prompted with a firmware update that tells you "if you want to use all features, upgrade topro version, or lock you down completely
lusty knoll
another simple answer would be that after buying these cheap thingies, you would...
I mean, that could happen with any company that makes stuff like this
jade siren
I mean, that could happen with any company that makes stuff like this
TP-Link are actively in the process of doing it though. you already need to log in to their app to provision and switch on "3rd party control" which is a setting which sometimes doesn't work and also they seem to random switch it off again. they are slowly but consistently locking stuff down and making it harder. this discord and the core repo issue tracker are littered with people having problems.
They are actively fucking with stuff.
TP-Link have proved they cannot be trusted in this space.
you are better off getting smart plugs that run opensource firmware instead.
lusty knoll
TP-Link are actively in the process of doing it though. you already need to log ...
which ones do that firmware?
jade siren
which ones do that firmware?
there have been issues with basically their entire range.
lusty knoll
there have been issues with basically their entire range.
oh i meant which ones do the open source firmware
jade siren
oh i meant which ones do the open source firmware
oh, anything that runs esphome or tasmota Athom have a pretty good range and offer both flavours. i tend to lean towards esphome persnally but some people prefer tasmota
they even do no relay versions if you want to only track which is handy for inductive load tracking.
lusty knoll
oh, anything that runs esphome or tasmota [Athom](https://www.athom.tech/) have ...
whats the difference between these 2?
jade siren
whats the difference between these 2?
the microcontroller: one is a ESP8285 and the other is ESP32-C3
lusty knoll
the microcontroller: one is a ESP8285 and the other is ESP32-C3
whats better about the c3?
jade siren
whats better about the c3?
in practical terms. if your only using as a smartplug it probably wont much much of a diffence. the esp32-c3 is newer whilst the esp8285 is going end of life.
for continued updated firmware support then the esp32 is better (specially as it has more memory). also you can probably add some extra functionality to it. like for examplee: running it as a BT proxy.