#Opinion or experience with retrofitting old doorbell cable for PoE?

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trim mortar
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The cable has 10 untwisted conductors. I was about to go for the Ubiquiti PoE over 2-wire adapters but I realized there's enough conductors for crimping RJ45 connectors. I bought a new PoE doorbell with a camera so I guess I need a decent bandwidth and stability though.

supple jolt
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this might work although cable is not shielded, just watch the wire gauge if it's usable for 48V transport

trim mortar
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the cable itself does seem shielded (second photo, we can see the sheared shield)

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but not the connectors themselves

trim mortar
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would be around 5 meters

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from the door to the shed, by the wall & the ceiling

real plank
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yeah at 5m it might work cos its short but running a propper cat6 cable would be better

trim mortar
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of course, i'll try but there's like five 90° turns on the way

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i would hate myself pulling it 50% and realizing it's stuck

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(never pulled a cable before, btw)

real plank
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does the doorbell have wifi in addition to ethernet connection?

trim mortar
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not sure, it's the Reolink PoE doorbell

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doesn't seem so

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i prefer to go wired for camera devices

supple jolt
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no wifi on poe doorbell 😉

real plank
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my thought was that you can get DC poe injectors that you could put next to it so you could run DC down a line you have and then have a short ethernet cable which would power the device but no connectivity

trim mortar
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that was the initial plan with the ubiquiti poe adapters over 2-wire

real plank
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i know at least some of the reolink cameras (like the one i have) have both poe and wifi but didnt know about the doorbell

supple jolt
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just checked, no

real plank
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thats a pain

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was a bit of a work around anyway

supple jolt
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i think original idea will work

trim mortar
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okay. well for the price of 2 RJ45 connectors and a crimp tool, i'll try it anyway, and fallback to the ubiquiti adapters if needed

real plank
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you can get this kind of thing and give it a shot

trim mortar
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just wondered if anyone tried it before me

real plank
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trying to crimp a bunch of wires into an rj45 will be awkward at best. a breakout is probably easier

trim mortar
supple jolt
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make shure they fit inside\

real plank
trim mortar
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thanks

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yeah and the male version also exists

real plank
supple jolt
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just crimp rj45

trim mortar
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okay, never did it so i'll trust you on that 😂

real plank
supple jolt
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do you have 8 diff. colors on cable?

trim mortar
supple jolt
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i love crimp

real plank
trim mortar
supple jolt
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measure resistance and lable 1-8

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trim mortar
real plank
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to be fair, if you limit to 10/100 meg then you only need 4 cables...

trim mortar
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and just test all the cyans for continuity on the other side

trim mortar
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i'll try that first then

real plank
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you will have to look up which cables it is you need for 2 pair. i think its the orange and green pairs but not 100%

trim mortar
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hmm i don't understand

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the installed cable is "straight" conductors, not pairs

real plank
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generally there is 8 cables (4 pairs)

trim mortar
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at least, doesn't seem so

real plank
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for 100 meg you only need 4 cables (2 pairs) the fact that yours isnt pairs isnt the point they will still be "paired up"

trim mortar
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yep ok

supple jolt
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Pin Wire Color (T568B) Function (10/100 Data) Mode A (Power) Mode B (Power)
1 White/Orange Transmit Data (+)
2 Orange Transmit Data (-)
3 White/Green Receive Data (+)
4 Blue Not Used Not Used
5 White/Blue Not Used
6 Green Receive Data (-)
7 White/Brown Not Used
8 Brown Not Used

real plank
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so 1/2/3/6 needed for 4 wires

supple jolt
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oops

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yeah right, copy/paste did not work

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lol

real plank
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although i dont even know if poe runs over 4 wires tbh. it might depend on the version

supple jolt
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should run with 4 wires though

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just the bandwith limitation

real plank
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its been a long time since i messed with anything that's not normal 4 pair connections tbh.

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i think there is an ethernet standard that works over 1 pair too but its half duplex so has to take turns sending/receiving packets

supple jolt
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for testing what cable at one end is cable at other end use 2 cables at one side and connect a 9v battery, go to the other end of cable and measure with multimeter all cables until you read 9v on display. Red cable would be plus for that pair, black negative. > mark and label those and then do the next pair..

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hope this makes sense

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or extend 1 cable on multimeter and measure ohm

supple jolt
real plank
supple jolt
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yup

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eventually

supple jolt
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off for today, see you tomorrow

trim mortar
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thanks to both of you

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i'll let you know

trim mortar
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hey it's me again. i've received these

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but no pinout was provided. should i assume these as they're coming 1) from a comment on the product and 2) an image search ?

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in last resort i'll sacrifice an ethernet cable

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nvm i can test on the connector

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well a chance i tested it, it's the same order as rj45 pins

trim mortar
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seems to have tried the 1g link several times before falling back to 100m

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and the 100m seems stable

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(nasty i know)

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(my wire stripper wanted to make a statement)

supple jolt
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so 100mbit works, that should be enough for this use.

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allthough i would consider doing a repatch on connector on first picture.. Try to mount the cables without the copper exposed. 😉

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#interference

trim mortar
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might as well do a proper crimping though

supple jolt
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a proper crimping beats all 😉

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but this solution is best for testing though