(US) Wired Smart Switches, Zigbee, No Neutral, Multi-Gang Capable

[teal hemlock]

I am based in the United States and am looking for Zigbee smart switches, wired (no battery operated - stick to wall shenanigans), that are compatible with "no neutral" wiring and are capable of being installed in a 2 or 3 gang enclosure alongside non-smart rocker switches and/or other smart switches of the same brand/model/form factor. Most ever switch enclosure in my house is 2 or 3 gang.

I had originally found the Sonoff and love their price, multi-gang in one-gang form factor and no-neutral wiring.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DNHM4RKK

Unfortunately, they aren't true "single-gang" as their integrated faceplate obstructs any adjacent switch making them unable to be installed seamlessly in a 2 or 3 gang enclosure.

I found these from MOES that APPEAR to have the right single-gang form factor and have ordered one to test, unfortunately the reviews are not great overall and they are priced higher than their Sonoff counterparts:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DWFRSJDJ

I have found other options that are multi-gang "all-in-one" but that forces you to use 2 or 3 smart switches where in some of my cases I need to maintain a boring rocker for 3 or 4-way switching:
https://www.amazon.com/MOES-Required-Inteligente-Switches-Assistant/dp/B0CKMKDXCT

Does anyone have any decent recommendations? Thanks in advance!

[vague juniper]

If you want an actual switch that'll fit in a normal US wall box, Inovelli Blues would be what I recommend. They are kinda expensive with the bypass needed for non-neutral setups, but they fit a normal Decora Lutron Claro faceplate. I've been tinkering with one and I like that it exposes a lot to home assistant

https://inovelli.com/collections/inovelli-blue-series/products/zigbee-matter-blue-series-smart-2-1-on-off-dimmer-switch

[teal hemlock]

Thanks for sharing this. It doesn't look like they offer a solution that has multiple switches in a single-gang form factor like the Sonoff above, is that correct?

and man, what is up with their marketing? Is this a video game website?

[vague juniper]

they are in the process of making a button one

https://inovelli.com/collections/inovelli-blue-series/products/zigbee-blue-series-smart-button-controller-dimmer

and I'm not sure but I love the marketing

[teal hemlock]

This looks REALLY nice.

If this fits in a single gang form factor and can be installed in a standard 2 or 3 gang box alongside 1 or 2 more of the same switch... that's good stuff.

[teal hemlock]

It's very out of place. Did they take a stock website template from somewhere and just paste their stuff in it? 🤣

[vague juniper]

I think it was all done in house. Dude behind inovelli is a bright guy, and based on what I know about him, this seems to be on brand

[teal hemlock]

Curios about the price point on the button version above. The Sonoffs are hard to beat at under $40 each but the form factor is KILLING ME. Nearly every switch enclosure in my house is 2 or 3 gang which means the Sonoffs, or any other larger than normal single gang form factor, just doesn't play well with any other switch.

[vague juniper]

Well, the regular dimmer style switch can technically be set up to act as a 6 or 8 button switch

each direction counts as a separate input, and it recognizes up to 4 taps, plus a hold

so a triple tap up can be set to do one thing, and a double tap down can also be something, and a tap and hold can be something else

[teal hemlock]

That's really interesting... I wonder how my kids would handle it!

[vague juniper]

theres also the mode button on the side that can switch between profiles as well

The tinkering I have done with it, I have a light that turns on/off with a top/bottom tap, and I can brighten/dim the light with a top/bottom hold. double taps up/down cycle colors, triple taps send a notification to my phone because I don't have anything else currently to control