Issue with numeric_state trigger on sun.sun[elevation] | Home Assistant | Page 1

wet osprey Sep 23, 2025, 7:40 PM

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Having a strange issue where automation is not being triggered by numeric_state.
relevant yaml:

automation:
  - id: turn_on_soffit_lights
    alias: "Turn on Soffit Lights"
    description: "Turn on Soffit Lights"
    mode: single
    triggers:
      - trigger: numeric_state
        entity_id: sun.sun
        attribute: elevation
        below: 50.0    ## threshold set high to test.
    conditions: []
    actions:

Included SS of attributes of sun.sun -- well below threshhold ( might be hard to see)

elevation: 35.75
azimuth: 234.03
rising: false
friendly_name: Sun

included SS of soffite lights' history -- not triggered by automation

fervent plank Sep 23, 2025, 7:41 PM

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Did it start above 50?

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/automation/trigger/#numeric-state-trigger

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See the blue box

wet osprey Sep 23, 2025, 7:43 PM

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I didnt check, honestly -- I actually am using from docs too

Home Assistant

Automation Trigger

All the different ways how automations can be triggered.

fervent plank Sep 23, 2025, 7:43 PM

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It's important. See the blue box

wet osprey Sep 23, 2025, 7:43 PM

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ope - hold on

wet osprey Sep 23, 2025, 8:02 PM

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Sorry -- Rob, I'm assuming you're referencingthe Note box ... which, here is current

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I've edited the automation to 31

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and reloaded

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according to the solar calculator, at 16:08:44 (local) the elevation should trigger the automation

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well. -- I guess nevermind; I'm going to guess that it was a PICNIC issue, this time

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idk

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chuckles maybe I just had to talk to y'all about it -- We've been down that road before anyway

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So just so I don't start scratching my head in a few hours, (I've change the 'on' time to 4* elevation. of tjhe 'off' automation triggers at 2* they would probably fight for who wins, yes?

fervent plank Sep 23, 2025, 8:27 PM

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I hope you got from the note that it needs to cross the threshold

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What is now is only half the picture

wet osprey Sep 23, 2025, 8:27 PM

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no, I do -- I think it was just the fact I needed to complain to someone for it to work

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lmao

fervent plank Sep 23, 2025, 8:29 PM

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No, they won't fight

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Each triggers exactly once

wet osprey Sep 23, 2025, 8:33 PM

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gotcha. so, since it has to cross, which means 2.1 -> 1.9 == false (since trigger is for above) and 1.9 -> 2.1 == true,

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gotcha

fervent plank Sep 23, 2025, 8:36 PM

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yes

wet osprey Sep 23, 2025, 8:36 PM

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Thanks Rob .. no XY problem today, just a PICNIC

#Issue with numeric_state trigger on sun.sun[elevation]