I have an oven and also induction hob which are both hard wired into their own 30A circuit.
Is there a HA compatible gadget which just clamps onto the cable? Mostly I just want to know if it's on or off so I can make sure it's switched off when we go out. UK based.
#Monitoring an oven which is hard wired.
rotund parcel
chrome current
yup the shelly EM is great, I am in the uk and use one to monitor the oven circuit
rotund parcel
Thanks. Whilst I did look for an answer in Discord, I missed the thread on this issue in another channel.
https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/1418579617953878186
rotund parcel
yup the shelly EM is great, I am in the uk and use one to monitor the oven circu...
Next problem... I see that using Shelley EM, it needs to be clamped over just one of the AC wires rather than the whole cable. That does not help me at all as I'm not going to be able to do that.
fossil swan
Then there's not real much you can do. You need access to one of the poles
chrome current
Next problem... I see that using Shelley EM, it needs to be clamped over just on...
I monitor the circuit from inside the consumer unit where the single cable is easy to clamp.
as Stefan mentioned, if you cant access anywhere where you are able to clamp 1 single leg of the AC signal then its pretty much game over.
rotund parcel
Thanks guys. Really appreciated to point out this issue. I almost ordered it.
Whilst I can wire in light switches, plugs etc, I am not going to poke around the Consumer Unit. I can't even see how that can easily be done. It's a row of breaker switches for each circuit. I can't see any access.
chrome current
Thanks guys. Really appreciated to point out this issue. I almost ordered it.
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if your not confident in what your doing then you are actually right that you should not be going into the consumer unit. however you could get a sparky to fit it if you wanted.
after taking the front off i pulled power off 1 of the circuits to power up the EM itself which i put under the breakers and then could clamp the oven circuit without too much issue.
rotund parcel
if your not confident in what your doing then you are actually right that you sh...
I'm not going in there! Unlike YouTube videos of people doing this, on mine, all of the wiring is behind the unit in the wall so no go for me.
chrome current
I'm not going in there! Unlike YouTube videos of people doing this, on mine, a...
make friends with a sparky and give them a case of beer to spend 10 minutes putting it in for you 😛
fossil swan
You could also just measure the circuit is on from the distribution cabinet. Or whatever you call that in the UK. Could even just measure mains power. If you see a large continuous power draw that's probably the oven
chrome current
You could also just measure the circuit is on from the distribution cabinet. Or ...
that's what we are talking about. the "consumer unit"
because stuff that is connected to it "consumes" power
fossil swan
Oh okay. That's easy to access here
chrome current
being easy to access doesn't mean you should go in there (specially if your not confident) 🙂
i am happy to go in there but its true that most people should absolutely not go in there.
fossil swan
It's not that bad. Common sense will get you a long way. And YouTube
rotund parcel
Plan B. The oven has the wires connected to screw in terminals on it so I can separate the cable from there and re-attach.
rotund parcel
because stuff that is connected to it "consumes" power
Consumer Unit: I always though it was a strange name tbh. I thought it was about me being a consumer. 🙂
chrome current
Plan B. The oven has the wires connected to screw in terminals on it so I can se...
that should work
chrome current
It's not that bad. Common sense will get you a long way. And YouTube
whilst i dont necessarily disagree, i would never try to convince anyone to go in there that doesn't want to. its dangerous.
fossil swan
It's not. Turn off the main breaker
chrome current
It's not. Turn off the main breaker
even with the mains switch inside the consumer unit powered off there is still live power within the box. it is absolutely still dangerous.
you could get a temporary shutdown of supply from the Distribution Network Operator but thats a lot of hassle.
fossil swan
I don't need access to anything before the main breaker
Once that's off it's a stretch to call that dangerous IMO
chrome current
the main switch is inside the box. therefore there is still live power in the box just in less places.
fossil swan
One spot. Which in my unit you can't reach anyway
chrome current
whatever the case, and however you look at it. there is an element of danger and therefore a risk of death. for this reason if someone is not confident doing it then they absolutely should not be doing it. and if you think differently then we are not going agree.
fossil swan
I am stating once the main breaker is off there is no danger.
chrome current
which is not true, at least in a standard UK consumer unit setup.
fossil swan
Where is the danger if the main breaker is off?
How do you do any electrical work, including fitting outlets and stuff if you can't rely on the breaker
chrome current
on the terminals inside the box for the mains switch
i dont know how to explain it any further without explaining how a switch works
fossil swan
I know how a switch works