#Need Help Figuring Out my Energy Monitoring

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wicked torrent
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I have three Emporia Vue3 monitors. One connected to my main panel with just the main CT Clamps monitoring the total power draw.
I have a second panel that goes from the main into the basement. I have another Vue3 connected there and I have a bunch of circuits monitored on that one. Then I have ANOTHER panel that goes from the Basement to a panel in the Garage where I have more circuits monitored.
First and foremost is that the math isn't mathing for the panels. 2.7A * 122.2V isn't 1386W, and I don't think I'm using 30kWh/day. The power company says I'm using about 3200kWh/mo and even that I think is a bit high. Since they upgraded my meter my usage has increased 60-80% which is ridiculous. I am hoping to get my meters dialed in so I can prove they are right or wrong. If they are right I am hoping I can figure out what's killing my usage so I can curb it. I currently have flat rate pricing so it's not a peak/off peak thing.

I would REALLY appreciate help getting my stuff straightened out!

real tree
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Did you set the upstream devices correctly in energy dashboard config?

floral holly
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Do you have split phase or 3-phase power? If so, it's really important to match the voltage input and the CT to the same phase.

And I would say, start by focusing on the main distribution first.

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real tree
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then if that consumes a lot of power you can start measuring individual circuits to narrow it down

wicked torrent
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On the main panel I only have the two big clamps connected to the inputs. So that should give me the total power usage. But someone pointed out that the math isn't right.
I swapped the inputs in the yaml and everything went to zero. I was going to swap the actual clamps just to confirm, but I THINK they are on the correct lines

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I just don't like playing in the box so I've bene putting it off

real tree
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if you dont have a ground truth you're flying blind

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the sum of your circuits can never exceed total grid import (assuming no solar)

wicked torrent
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No solar

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I got these to monitor the power, so I guess I don't know how else to measure it to compare.

real tree
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could ask an electrician to hook it up correctly for you

floral holly
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Besides clamps you should have an input for the voltage. That input should match the correct clamp.

And yaml, what yaml?

wicked torrent
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Yes, there are two wires connected to breakers, one on each phase that match the clamps.

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YAML for the ESP32 code for the Emporia Vue3

floral holly
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Ahh, you run custom firmware. Pretty important detail 🙂

And your config is quite small compared to DigiBlur. You only use 2 of the 16 inputs?

If you're sure the CT and voltage input match, I would say it might just need calibration.

wicked torrent
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Yes, for this one I'm only using the two main clamps, I have two other units where I am using most of the inputs.

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How do I calibrate?

swift copper
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Are you in a duplex? When I was, my new neighbor moved and my power using skyrocketed. Long story short, I was being billed for his power usage. FYI.

wicked torrent
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No, a house. Wouldn't surprise me if my one neighbor is syphoning power though. Awful people.

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That's why I need to get these things working correctly, my bills have skyrocketed this year.

floral holly
# wicked torrent How do I calibrate?

There doesn´t seem to be a build in way in the integration. But you could just scale the power.

Connect an resistive load you know (or can measure otherwise) and just add a multiply filter to the power entry so it will display the correct value ([mutiplication factor] = [correct value] / [current value])

wicked torrent
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So like plug in a 13w Lamp?

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Then 13w / (whatever it's showing) = multiplecation factor ?

floral holly
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13W does´t sound like incandacent. So rather a 60W bulb or something like a toaster

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But I don´t know why it's so far off. As the integration has nog calibration for it and it seems so far off

rose olive
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Are you connecting the Black voltage sense to Line 1 and Red voltage sense to Line 2? White to Neutral

rose olive
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Your supply may be 2 phase with both lines in phase Your config needs to have 0Deg for phase offset

floral holly
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@rose olive Phase angle (luckily) isn't part of the config but measured from the voltage.

rose olive
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Can you flash the Main unit back to Emporia FW. With no small CTs connected you should see 100% in the balance and total usage Watts will be the power of that board

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rose olive
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I have a backup of the Vue 2 original FW, but if I recall you have the Vue3. Someone may have FW if you do not have a backup. Try other servers like digiblurDIY

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You definitely need to have the white wire from the Emporia Vue connected to neutral common bar. As a reference.