I'm trying to set it up so I have Incoming grid + Solar > Leg A + Leg B > Individual breakers > Devices but it's not really working that way
#Energy flow with electrical phases/legs
foggy skiff
it's also saying I have untracked consumption because there's no way to tell it that the solar power is going to the inverter since there's no way to add it as an upstream device
so while the bar graph is correct, it's not showing that as being solar
long onyx
Yeah we don't have support for anything like that.
foggy skiff
even if you ignore the phases and just have total incoming power?
long onyx
"Total incoming power" is not something you provide.
You provide energy from the grid, and energy from the solar.
foggy skiff
unless I add the solar as an upstream device as well but then it would count as consumption
long onyx
Solar does not belong as an individual device or upstream.
foggy skiff
obviously
If I delete the outlet device it fixes it but then I dont' know how much power is on that leg
long onyx
Is each leg monitored in "individual devices" ?
foggy skiff
I could try to add it like that
long onyx
that's the only way I could think of
then it's just 3 levels of device hierarchy
Leg -> breaker -> device
That should be fine I think. You just can't pick where the solar goes.
foggy skiff
it gets confused because the solar is going into the inverter itself, not from the main breaker so it sees that that one circuit is using less than what's going out
there's no way to tell it that "hey, solar is actually going here"
foggy skiff
yeah it assumes you only do something one way
coral owl
at an interval of one hour you cant really tell where the solar went anyway
long onyx
What is the hierarchy here?
foggy skiff
outlier from when I set it up
foggy skiff
What is the hierarchy here?
basically this
it's too bad you can't have two upstream devices because that would solve my solar issue
unless I move the inverter to the grid even though that's not really how it's positioned
coral owl
uh you have your solar not connected to the grid?
foggy skiff
no
weird setup. I have my inverter connected to an outlet and I have devices on that
coral owl
hmm okay. The physical location doesnt matter
foggy skiff
I got it a little better so it treats the inverter as the grid
coral owl
I dont understand why you would add the inverter to devices
foggy skiff
there was no other way to place it since it's plugged into the wall downstream of the breaker, not upstream
coral owl
that doesnt matter, power goes where the demand is
foggy skiff
the other charts I have are less freaked out. mostly.
I don't know what I did but there's no untract consumption anymore. problem is not the bedroom 2 is showing more output than what's coming in to it
foggy skiff
it's going to look screwed up for not until midnight because I only make the Phase A/B helpers this morning so that's where at least some of the energy went
foggy skiff
I have a WILD idea to track the untracked energy
I can make a energy meter that's inverter out - UPS load and call it whatever then plug that into the inverter out
foggy skiff
sweet! my idea worked
there's still some untracked energy but I think that's just the discrepancy left between the meters so that's always going to be there no mattery what
it's within about 4% of error
foggy skiff
@long onyx quick question, for the built in energy thing, does the electricity grid need total power usage or just power from the grid?
I'm having an issue where my solar production equals my untracked consumption and I odn't know where I went wrong
grid input + solar SHOULD equal grid loads + inverter output
foggy skiff
doesn't include solar
mmk. I"m thinking that maybe I have to add solar back in somewhere, maybe phase a or the bedroom 2 one. I think it just doesn't know where the energy's going so I might have to make it thing I just plugged the solar into the phase
then hopefully the route would go solar > phase a > inverter
phase a would be "supplying" the solar even though that's not how it actually is. probably a limitation of how the energy thing works. I'm surprised it's pretty limited given how customisable HA is
