#I have a Eve Energy (Matter) and a Raspberry Pi 4 B. Do I still need a hub?

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abstract obsidian
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If a hub is still required, what can I use? Would a "Home Assistant Green" or "Home Assistant Yellow" be a all-in-one solution?

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# abstract obsidian If a hub is still required, what can I use? Would a "Home Assistant Green" or "H...

if its matter over thread then you will need a zigbee coordinator to replace the hub. theres a few options for this
you could add it to a rpi directly with something likee the ZBT-1 or add it to your you network with something like a ZLZB-06

the yellow does also have a built in zigbee coordinator but tbh i am not sure i would recommend the yellow anymore. for the price you could look at a mini-pc and one of the above and getting a better performance setup.

a note that if your setting up for the first time on a RPI: you should not use an SD card long term (its fine for some intial testing and stuff) as it will be slow and fail quickly.

slate talon
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Zigbee isn't the same as Thread, so they would need an adapter flashed with Thread firmware

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i was under the impression both had that option

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but yes i definetly should have included that 😛

slate talon
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yeah just wanted to clarify to avoid confusion

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abstract obsidian
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Thank you for your answer!

But what has Zigbee to do with Thread/Matter? Isn't Zigbee something different? 🤔

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About the microSD card: I only use Samsung MicroSDs, many for my photo cameras. Do you really think the would fail? I don't use anything below 64 or 128 GB.

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abstract obsidian
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Okay, but I have to still try it, since the NVME hat (if even available for a RPI 4B) is so expensive

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yup, by the time you buy a rpi/hat/ssd/psu/case then there are better options for your money

abstract obsidian
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I indeed had a microSD failing, but it was a cheap one which was part of a RPI kit. Samsungs never failed for me

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an n100 or n150 based mini pc is a better option IMO. but if you have some hardware already and want to experiment a bit before investing in a new setup then can use whatever.

abstract obsidian
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I have a home server (AMD 8600G with ASUS mainboard) running already 24/7, only the Zigbee(?)/Matter hardware stuff is missing

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what OS are you running on the server?

abstract obsidian
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Debian 12 Bookworm

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you could just run HA container in docker on that f that if you want. then just get a zigbee device flashed with thread firmware then connect run a matter server container and hook it all together

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that way you dont need any extra hardware

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you could always add dedicated hardware for HA later on if you watned to

abstract obsidian
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Oh, so the matter server is not running within the HA container? I wonder if I could just install HA OS via libvirt

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I already run KVM servers using libvirt

tawdry widget
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i am not familiar with libvirt but if it runs virtual machines then yes you could virtualise haos which comes by default with the matter server addon

abstract obsidian
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I see. So eventually I would only need the ZBT-1 since I already run a home server 24/7

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the matter server runs as an addon in haos which you then integrate with. but addonss are jsut containers so you could just run both HA and matter containers on docker directly too. haos has some benifits with having the seemless addon and update support but you can manage stuff yourself its just a little bit of work

abstract obsidian
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Ah okay I see

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