I'm not sure what any of this means to be honest but after a while it causes the HA computer to crash.
#HA hardware failue
bright furnace
I'm not sure what any of this means to be honest but after a while it causes the...
what are you running on?
what hardware do you have?
it could be a cpu failure, it could be something causing errors on the cpu, like a misbehaving pcie card or something
silk palm
what are you running on?
a laptop and I have no idea what hardware is in there. all I know is that it's a pentium
silk palm
what I find weird is that it only happens if the battery is in
bright furnace
without further information then its unlikely people will be able to help.
you could see if there's a bios update for the system.
although honestly, if it works fine with the battery out then just leave it out and call it a day.
silk palm
I'd need to see if I can get info on it
it's a really old comptuer so I have no idea where I'd even get a bios ofr it
scenic bear
You probably want to remove the battery anyways if you use it 24/7.
silk palm
fair. it just sucks if I ever want to move it somewhere
scenic bear
I'm not sure if HAOS has a MCE log file somewhere to debug this further. The joys of using a niche OS.
Maybe you can do a memory test?
silk palm
I'm not sure if HAOS has a MCE log file somewhere to debug this further. The joy...
I'm not sure how
would that be in the bios?
scenic bear
Put a memtest86 on a USB drive and boot it. I recommend using ventoy for this.
silk palm
Put a memtest86 on a USB drive and boot it. I recommend using ventoy for this.
if it's a memory issue, why would taking the battery out solve it?
I notice that it seems to follow some sort of pattern
every ~330 seconds or 5.5mins
scenic bear
if it's a memory issue, why would taking the battery out solve it?
No idea. I have no clue why involving the battery causes it either.
bright furnace
it could be the BMS that's causing issues and that's its reporting interval. it depends how the BMS is attached to the system.
scenic bear
You can try ha host logs -vf to follow the host logs. Might provide more information.
silk palm
on the computer itself?
scenic bear
Right in that HA CLI.
silk palm
aw man I gotta get out of bed
bright furnace
fair. it just sucks if I ever want to move it somewhere
then its unplugged from the network anyway?
scenic bear
aw man I gotta get out of bed
You can also use a SSH addon or just the GUI.
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scenic bear
I don't prefer it but yeah. Kind of.
silk palm
the bluetooth dongle is spamming the logs
scenic bear
I'm not sure if kernel messages will be logged there though.
silk palm
I'm not sure if kernel messages will be logged there though.
it looks like it does?
scenic bear
Yeah just checked.
Most of the time when we debug stuff the GUI is usually broken in some way so using the CLI via keyboard & monitor or a SSH client is common.
In this case the GUI's log can be used, of course. I just don't often think about it due to that.
silk palm
it's still the same info for what I an tell
if it is the ram, I may have some ram lying around
if it's not soldered on
I first noticed it when I upgraded from HA 2025.5.3 so I had to downgrade back to it and haven't upgraded since. But then it's also happening on 2025.5.3 so idk
scenic bear
Use memtest86 first until it passes to check. Try both with and without battery.
silk palm
if I have a usb stick lying around somewhere
scenic bear
How did you flash HAOS?
scenic bear
Less than a gig or so. Depends on the version you use.
silk palm
I have no idea where any of my USB sticks are. tehey just diappeared
scenic bear
:<
silk palm
and I had several
scenic bear
Whatever you want. I usually use the passmark one.
silk palm
Whatever you want. I usually use the passmark one.
which test? there's like 15 of them
or just start test?
scenic bear
It will start what you want automatically.
silk palm
75% done, no errors
scenic bear
Is this with the battery connected?
silk palm
Is this with the battery connected?
yup
scenic bear
That's bad because that would have possibly been a simple fix.
silk palm
yeah
silk palm
took the battery out and it still throws those messages but it's not crashing
silk palm
nope it's still crashing. I wish I knew what the failure was
scenic bear
Same.
silk palm
@scenic bear I've replaced the CMOS battery in the laptop. It was reading 2.66v so we'll see how it holds up
silk palm
so far it's not crashing
scenic bear
I don't think I've ever heard of a low CMOS battery to cause crashing. 2.7V~ isn't empty either.
silk palm
I don't think I've ever heard of a low CMOS battery to cause crashing. 2.7V~ isn...
maybe not crashing crashing but it would just suddenly shut off
no warning, just off
silk palm
I don't think I've ever heard of a low CMOS battery to cause crashing. 2.7V~ isn...
I spoke too soon. It just shut off