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wanton musk Jul 2, 2025, 12:30 PM

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I want to turn off lights when only one person is at home and opens the front door.

So when the last person leaves they see the lights turn off as they exit.

How do I integrate the house count into this code so that happens?

`
alias: Enter - leave home
description: ""
triggers:

type: opened
device_id: 838ee5f0b7fbbf904d8f4668319b5341
entity_id: 5e04ae5fa22a5bd1e7280e2633ba99cb
domain: binary_sensor
trigger: device
for:
hours: 0
minutes: 0
seconds: 1
conditions: []
actions:
action: light.turn_off
metadata: {}
data: {}
target:
entity_id: light.living_lights
wait_for_trigger:
- type: opened
  device_id: 838ee5f0b7fbbf904d8f4668319b5341
  entity_id: 5e04ae5fa22a5bd1e7280e2633ba99cb
  domain: binary_sensor
  trigger: device
  for:
  hours: 0
  minutes: 0
  seconds: 2
  timeout:
  hours: 12
  minutes: 0
  seconds: 0
  milliseconds: 0
action: adaptive_lighting.apply
data:
lights:
- light.living_lights
transition: "90"
adapt_brightness: true
adapt_color: true
turn_on_lights: true
action: light.turn_on
metadata: {}
data:
brightness_pct: 15
target:
entity_id: light.pendant_lights
delay:
hours: 0
minutes: 3
seconds: 0
action: light.turn_off
metadata: {}
data: {}
target:
entity_id: light.pendant_lights
mode: single
`

charred sage Jul 2, 2025, 12:35 PM

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add a condition that checks the number of people in the zone.home is 1

noble glade Jul 2, 2025, 12:35 PM

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home has a value of the number of people in it
so I would do it like this:
trigger: door opens
condition: ~~numeric_~~state of home = 1
action: <your actions>

charred sage Jul 2, 2025, 12:36 PM

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numeric state doesn't do ==

noble glade Jul 2, 2025, 12:36 PM

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sorry I didn't mean numeric state - just state

wanton musk Jul 2, 2025, 12:37 PM

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condition: state entity_id: zone.home attribute: persons state: "1"

noble glade Jul 2, 2025, 12:38 PM

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I don't think you need the attribute?

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yes, drop the attribute

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the attribute has the persons in it - you only want the value of zone.home

wanton musk Jul 2, 2025, 12:41 PM

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condition: numeric_state
entity_id: zone.home
below: 1

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Condition passes

noble glade Jul 2, 2025, 12:42 PM

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then either nobody is home or you haven't configured their device trackers correctly

wanton musk Jul 2, 2025, 12:43 PM

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Wym

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No one is home rn

noble glade Jul 2, 2025, 12:44 PM

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ah ok - I expected you to be home
you can use numeric_state but then you need to do below 2, because you want 1 person
or you use state (without the numeric)

wanton musk Jul 2, 2025, 12:45 PM

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If I did state ,these are my options

charred sage Jul 2, 2025, 12:46 PM

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wanton musk If I did state ,these are my options

Right, just don't fill out attribute.

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put a 1 in quotes in that field

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"1"

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actually, don't put the quotes, try that first. If that doesn't work, add the quotes.

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because your're doing this on mobile, you want to make sure you don't use fancy quotes.

wanton musk Jul 2, 2025, 12:51 PM

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Ok no qoutes with 0 passes . Then when set to 1 it did not.

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Cool!

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Might be cool to add “hello (member who just got home) to that but that may be over my head

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There is a actions in parallel block, would I make a choose action be inside that

noble glade Jul 2, 2025, 1:59 PM

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wanton musk Might be cool to add “hello (member who just got home) to that but that may be o...

That member is in the attribute of home

wanton musk Jul 2, 2025, 2:24 PM

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Can you elaborate? I have never used the zones in automation before

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Please

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It would be nice to have tasks run independently to each other but use same variables

charred sage Jul 2, 2025, 2:31 PM

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Use parallel

karmic fjord Jul 2, 2025, 2:35 PM

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wanton musk I want to turn off lights when only one person is at home and opens the front do...

I think the problem here is if only one person is at home but it simply opens the door. To a visitor, etc... I solve this problem from two sides. One automation launches if detects anybody outside home zone and no detector (PIR, mini wave, some smart plugs off) has been activated for 5 minutes. Then HA sends me a mobile app notification and switch off(plugs, lights, etc) or on (some cameras) The other way is that I have a ZigBee double button that allows me to activate or deactivate the same "scenes". Works fine most of the time 🙂

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I have that double ZigBee button next to the entrance door

wanton musk Jul 2, 2025, 2:39 PM

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wanton musk Jul 2, 2025, 2:43 PM

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karmic fjord I think the problem here is if only one person is at home but it simply opens th...

That might be better option in this case as I can see that being more scalable in the future

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Ik this would be hardware but what zigbee presence sensors do you use @karmic fjord

charred sage Jul 2, 2025, 2:49 PM

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wanton musk

You're only running 1 action in parallel

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which defeats the purpose of parallel

wanton musk Jul 2, 2025, 3:16 PM

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Oh

karmic fjord Jul 2, 2025, 4:00 PM

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wanton musk Ik this would be hardware but what zigbee presence sensors do you use <@11523258...

The IKEA ones. It's important to use the IKEA AAA bateries due to the sensibility to voltage. Around 10€ in Spain. Very cheap and stetically nice https://www.ikea.com/es/es/p/vallhorn-sensor-movimiento-inalambrico-inteligente-blanco-90504341/

IKEA

VALLHORN sensor de movimiento inalámbrico, inteligente/blanco

VALLHORN sensor de movimiento inalámbrico, inteligente/blanco Usa el sensor de movimiento VALLHORN en cualquier parte de tu hogar. Colócalo en un rincón, en mitad de una pared, o en un estante o en cualquier superficie plana. Podrás tener luz donde la necesites, tanto dentro como fuera de casa.

karmic fjord Jul 2, 2025, 4:05 PM

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wanton musk Ik this would be hardware but what zigbee presence sensors do you use <@11523258...

For mini wave presence sensors I bought a pair from Amazon to test them, about 15 € each. Needs tuning and has a lot of parameters, but works OK most of the time. Not for reliable automations alone

wanton musk Jul 2, 2025, 4:20 PM

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I saw a hacks integration for room detection

wanton musk Jul 3, 2025, 12:28 AM

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I feel like I need to redo this automation in node red or something

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I’m getting presence sensors tomorrow

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Node red doesn’t start for me from the add on

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I have it as a proxmox lxc but how do I link the two

noble glade Jul 3, 2025, 3:51 AM

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Why do you think you need nodered?

charred sage Jul 3, 2025, 11:29 AM

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some people don't understand/like using the built in automation engine

wanton musk Jul 3, 2025, 12:48 PM

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I thought it would be easier to have different flows together.

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Utilizing ai more and mmWave presence sensors

charred sage Jul 3, 2025, 12:52 PM

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Well, as above, if you're referring to parallel, all you needed to do was add the parallel actions to parallel, but you put them below parallel outside parallel

wanton musk Jul 3, 2025, 1:07 PM

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So I need 2 parallel blocks for it to be effective

charred sage Jul 3, 2025, 1:09 PM

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why

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you can have multiple parallel actions in a single block

wanton musk Jul 3, 2025, 1:27 PM

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`alias: Enter - leave home
description: ""
triggers:

type: opened
device_id: 838ee5f0b7fbbf904d8f4668319b5341
entity_id: 5e04ae5fa22a5bd1e7280e2633ba99cb
domain: binary_sensor
trigger: device
for:
hours: 0
minutes: 0
seconds: 1
conditions:
condition: state
entity_id: zone.home
state: "1"
actions:
action: light.turn_off
metadata: {}
data: {}
target:
entity_id: light.living_lights
wait_for_trigger:
- type: opened
  device_id: 838ee5f0b7fbbf904d8f4668319b5341
  entity_id: 5e04ae5fa22a5bd1e7280e2633ba99cb
  domain: binary_sensor
  trigger: device
  for:
  hours: 0
  minutes: 0
  seconds: 2
  timeout:
  hours: 12
  minutes: 0
  seconds: 0
  milliseconds: 0`

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` - choose:
- conditions:
- condition: and
conditions:
- condition: state
entity_id: person.alec_wren
state: home
- condition: state
entity_id: person.hunter
state: not_home
sequence:
- action: assist_satellite.announce
metadata: {}
data:
message: Welcome Home Alec
preannounce: true
target:
entity_id: assist_satellite.home_assistant_voice_097b4f_assist_satellite
- conditions:
- condition: and
conditions:
- condition: state
entity_id: person.hunter
state: home
- condition: state
entity_id: person.alec_wren
state: not_home
sequence:
- action: assist_satellite.announce
metadata: {}
data:
message: Welcome Home Hunter
preannounce: true
target:
entity_id: assist_satellite.home_assistant_voice_097b4f_assist_satellite

action: adaptive_lighting.apply
data:
lights:
- light.living_lights
transition: "90"
adapt_brightness: true
adapt_color: true
turn_on_lights: true
action: light.turn_on
metadata: {}
data:
brightness_pct: 15
target:
entity_id: light.pendant_lights
delay:
hours: 0
minutes: 3
seconds: 0
action: light.turn_off
metadata: {}
data: {}
target:
entity_id: light.pendant_lights
mode: single`

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Will this work

charred sage Jul 3, 2025, 1:33 PM

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Are you asking about parallel?

wanton musk Jul 3, 2025, 1:35 PM

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No

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In general

charred sage Jul 3, 2025, 2:09 PM

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it looks odd to me

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Why are you doing the same thing twice via 2 separate triggers?

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just make 2 separate triggers, label each one, use a choose statement for each path.

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you can make the automation itself parallel

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