How Do I Remove Unused Helper Or At Least Rename It? | Home Assistant | Page 1

burnt lion Jun 25, 2025, 12:24 AM

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I made a helper (boolean_input) using the UI but never referenced it, then realized I named it incorrectly. It is not showing as editable in the Helpers screen. I just want to delete it since I had a different one already. Now the names are confusing, and I might pick the wrong one, so I'd prefer to delete, but would settle for renaming (deprecated) or something like that.

Please tell me that we don't end up with a graveyard of mistakes that can never be removed from HA. I can't rename, I can't delete, I can't even add a note to say it should be ignored.

Not in a yaml file I can find.

polar torrent Jun 25, 2025, 12:27 AM

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burnt lion I made a helper (boolean_input) using the UI but never referenced it, then reali...

in the moreinfo box hit the cog in the top right

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then the delete button in the bottom left

burnt lion Jun 25, 2025, 12:27 AM

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Yeah, not there.

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I restarted HA, too.

polar torrent Jun 25, 2025, 12:28 AM

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what does the more info box look like?

burnt lion Jun 25, 2025, 12:28 AM

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That's it. No other controls.

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The above is what I see when I hit the cog. Before that, it looks like this.

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Upgraded to 2025.6.3 today. Wondering if that has anything to do with it.

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I've had some strange things go missing like all my automations and restarting the VM fixed it.

polar torrent Jun 25, 2025, 12:29 AM

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and when you press the cog?

burnt lion Jun 25, 2025, 12:30 AM

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Taht's the first screen shot (after clicking on cog). Nothing except the header.

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I'm going to restart the VM. The other day I had no automations showing and nothing in the config folder. Restarting HA didn't fix it, but restarting the VM did.

polar torrent Jun 25, 2025, 12:31 AM

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try another browser/ignognito mode etc... see if your browser is messing with stuff

burnt lion Jun 25, 2025, 12:32 AM

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Yeah, I did a shift-F5. Restarting VM now. Let me see if that helps.

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VM reboot did it. This happens way too frequently (on latest Chrome).

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Seems the control gets a partial load in cache on the server side and a VM reboot fixes that while a client browser restart, cache clear does not.

polar torrent Jun 25, 2025, 12:37 AM

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i have seen a couple of people have simalar issues with stuff coming and going. i havent seen the problem myself

burnt lion Jun 25, 2025, 12:37 AM

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Appreciate your help and suggestions.

polar torrent Jun 25, 2025, 12:38 AM

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browser mod has some issues that was causing problems but that got updated i think unless it broke again

burnt lion Jun 25, 2025, 12:39 AM

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The other day, my automations were running , appeared in the UI, but HA complained the automations.yaml was missing. I went into terminal, went to the config folder and did an ls and got "0 files"!

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I was a little freaked out, but when I returned to the Automations UI screen and clicked on one automation and edited in YAML, the code was there.

polar torrent Jun 25, 2025, 12:39 AM

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could be filesystem issues

burnt lion Jun 25, 2025, 12:40 AM

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I tried a restore and it didn't fix it either. Finally, I restarted the VM and all was back to normal.

polar torrent Jun 25, 2025, 12:40 AM

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run a backup when its working. then do a fresh install on a new vm and restore the backup

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see if issues persist.

burnt lion Jun 25, 2025, 12:41 AM

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Yeah, I was considering having a whole new VM with a restored backup on it as a "super backup."

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I'm migrating 15+ years of Homeseer logic over and so I got a sh*tload of integrations, HACs, and a few addons going. Getting hairy.

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With the directory entries seeming to be gone, I can't fathom how the OS can read a file like configuration and display the text in the yaml editor.

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Anyway, thanks again for your help.

#How Do I Remove Unused Helper Or At Least Rename It?