#Can I use a USB thumb drive to run HAOS

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rare onyx
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Long story short, my SD card killed itself when running Home Assistant, and then I learned the hard way that Home Assistant OS and SD cards don't mix (especially since I don't have an A2 or better SD Card). Would a Sandisk Ultra USB3 drive work? The only SSDs I have are either boot drives for another computer or one for storing 2TB of Google Takeout, so SSDs are out of the question.

brazen bone
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They would work yes but they may only be marginally better than microsd cards

broken bobcat
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Or worse.

rare onyx
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My microSD card died within a few hours after trying to set up all of our smart devices, after a reflash a few hours later it was also getting initialization errors as the card would get stuck in busy state, so as long as a USB drive can last me a while enough until I can implement a better storage solution (like offloading databases to my main computer, etc.), is it worth it?

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Note: the microSD card might have went through the washing machine once but it ran Ubuntu and Android just fine after that and started failing with HA, maybe because of the random read/writes of Home Assistant?

brazen bone
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if you want to use a raspberry pi, just buy a small usb attached ssd

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there is no reason to offload anything to anywhere just for the sake of it

rare onyx
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Unfortunately I don't have an SSD that is not being used for something else 😭

brazen bone
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they can be obtained for fairly cheap

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tho you may also want to get a powered usb hub

rare onyx
brazen bone
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the alternative, buy a ha green, yellow or repurpose a proper sff system

rare onyx
gray monolith
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For what it's worth, "fairly cheap" is on the order of about $20-30 for a 120GB SATA SSD and a USB to SATA adapter. That might be a bit more palatable to your parents

rare onyx
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That SSD was my dad's old one

gray monolith
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$10-20, in that case. Can't speak for your parents, but if you explain what it'd be used for they might be lenient

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Or, alternatively, if you've got the money you could ask them to make the purchase for you

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With all that said, though, the Sandisk drive you mentioned should be perfectly usable for a time

rare onyx
rare onyx
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For some reason HA logs everything, even stuff that isn't useful so I think that I could prolong the life of each storage device if I log less

brazen bone
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with real storage this simply does not matter

rare onyx
broken bobcat
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You never really know when a log becomes important. I'd say almost all logs are never really looked at and "useless".

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If it really has to be something cheap or a SD Card a endurance one can be had for 10-12 bucks or so. If you really have to you can also just run HAOS in a virtual machine on your laptop until you can get proper storage.

rare onyx
# broken bobcat If it really has to be something cheap or a SD Card a endurance one can be had f...

Good idea. I might be able to use my SSD for HA once I am done tinkering with Arch in my laptop, or if another one becomes unused I could use that. So far it's running fine on a USB so far, made it log mainly warnings, etc. and not everything to make sure I have enough time to get something.

I can't run it on my laptop with the SSD, it's a 12 year old piece of crap that barely runs anything lol, and I do have a couple other computers but I actually use those for other stuff already.

opal shale
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The thing with cheap SSD is, depending on the model they use bottom shelf controller and nand. I had better experience with buying a used enterprise ssd, namely Intel DC s4500. They already spent 5-6 years in some server but usually are still quite virgin. Those I snatched on eBay for 20$ each have 480gb, and had only 31tb written from their rated 0.9 pb as they are designed for one full drive write per day over their 5year warranty

brazen bone
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That's quite irrelevant for them having all the basic wear leveling included for w couple years now

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A faster or more expensive SSD won't make HAOS run any better

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If they don't also come with the downsides of increased power draw which is rather deadly for stability on a pi