Are there solutions to avoid using Chinese Tuya servers? Is there a Tuya server emulator available?
Chinese servers are not trusted and steal data.
#Tuya Emulators
slender notch
rich creek
There are a couple of local options, as linked above, but as @viral notch said, if at all possible, keep well clear of Tuya, they are very cheap, but they are also very nasty. (I found out the hard way).
slender notch
Local Tuya does not prevent devices from connecting to Chinese servers. Devices like an air purifier or heater can't be modified, they are on different chips than ESP and there isn't even software and devices using the mqtt protocol on the market.
And for real, there is no smartphone app for alternative registration of devices instead of through Chinese servers so locally?
viral notch
if such a thing existed it would almost certainly not be a smartphone app.
I am not aware of any projects that have reverse engineered the server and created their own implementation for people to redirect devices and apps to via network redirection.
slender notch
And isn't there some open protocol instead of Tuya something like ONVIF for cameras that may become popularized in the near future?
No point in making a smart home as it can not work without an external network, well unless a really good Tuya emulator to make the installation work from the beginning without the Internet.
The house is private and not public in addition to Chinese.
viral notch
there are alternitives but tuya firmware doesnt speak to them because they are designed to be cloud dependant.
as i said before. if you dont want a device thats dependant on a Chinese server... then don't buy one.
most of their esp based stuff can be hacked to run esphome but if its running other chips its going to be harder. maybe you can reverse engineer it, dump the firmware and rebuild from scratch
slender notch
The problem is with alternative equipment than Tuya which simply does not exist, Tasmota is only sockets not even bulbs.
And isn't it easier to make an emulator instead of replacing all the hardware?
Ideally, he would plug the Tuya emulator into the network as a separate Raspberry under the device with the emulator all devices with Tuya and integration of Home Assistant on the other Raspberry.
Tuya devices register by contact, they have a weak signal at the time of activation, immediately so that the emulator reads and registers itself on the Raspberry.
viral notch
The problem is with alternative equipment than Tuya which simply does not exist,...
isn't it easier to make an emulator instead of replacing all the hardware?
good luck with your easy project! you should opensource the result!
the tuya devices "call home" so you would have to intercept and redirect them to your "emulated server"
tasmota definetly supports other devices including lightbulbs. but i do prefer running ESPHome on stuff instead of tasmota.
slender notch
There is this ESPHome standard but equipment manufacturers are not using it. While something from Tasmota can be bought, there is nothing from ESPHome.
Tuya is the standard.
viral notch
There is this ESPHome standard but equipment manufacturers are not using it. Whi...
there is definetly stuff being sold with ESPHome on it with more coming all the time. there are also other device manufacters that are more open and work with home assistant.
viral notch
Tuya is the standard.
tuya is not an open system, its a closed system that depends on their chinese servers...
they have some more open versions that use zigbee but they are also not great.
tuya is cheap and nasty and the general recomendation is to avoid it at all costs
slender notch
Emulators are, for example, tinytuya, have poor device databases. Ok, I already have.
viral notch
the answer to your initial question is no. good luck!
slender notch
viral notch
thats a beta project from 4 yeas ago and no longer exists by the looks of it. most stuff that sends local commands to tuya devices is dependant on the tuya device listening for them. as i understand it you have to enable these on the device using the tuya app via the cloud setup. and not all devices support it at that.
if the device is not listening for local commands. you cant magically send commands to them without alot of hackery.
I have tried to explain this in several ways and you don't seem to want to understand.