Open hardware components?

[earnest mural]

I'm thinking to go 100% open hardware are there other devices/sensors I should check out before getting Olimex stuff: https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/1kdfefg/open_hardware_for_home_assistant/

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the beagle play is not a good option

[earnest mural]

Why so?

[real pivot]

its an older CPU
released in 2012 and was used with the rpi3b+

it only has 2gb of ram
which is min recommended so may have some issues and if you try and add any addons it will likely cause issues.

16gb emmc is too small (32 is min recomended)
has micro sd card slot but you SHOULD ABSOLUTLY NOT use a sd card long term
doesnt seem to have any other options for drives so realistically you would end up needing to use a SSD via USB which is obviously less than ideal.

there is no direct build of haos for it so you may have to build and support it yourself

[earnest mural]

Appreciate it's a lower end board. The chip was released in 2023 https://www.ti.com/product/AM625#tech-docs

Beagle do publish a HA image

The USB/ SSD is a concern..

Maybe I should go for the AY https://www.beagleboard.org/boards/beagley-ai

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the a53 was released in 2012
looks like the only image they have is is from 2023 and by the looks of it its a supervised install which is totally not recomended and is being depreccted.
realistically if you dont want to ever use anything newer then 2023 then maybe you can

[earnest mural]

There's a nightly build

[real pivot]

has it actually been updated though?

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this is a marginally better board but you are still in the same storage issue unless you want to use the pcie lane to add a m.2 breakout board or something

[earnest mural]

https://rcn-ee.net/rootfs/debian-arm64-11-bullseye-home-assistant-v5.10-ti/2025-03-12/

[earnest mural]

Yeah was just googling that..

[real pivot]

is there any actual change log? they might be building it mightly but if there are no changes it doesnt really matter when its build

plus its build on top of debian and from their demos it supports addons. therefore its likely a supervised install which is being deprecated

honestly if you want a low power system then use a green and support the project by doing so

[earnest mural]

I want an open hardware system.

[real pivot]

the nightly build from what i can tell is not building anything new. it might be building every day but its building stuff from 2023

to be blunt: if you want to go this route then sure you can probably get stuff running but you will be completely on your own. this is the kind of thing people do as a curiosity to see if it could in theory work.
its not something that is used for an actual production system

[earnest mural]

Yeah, it's for the hell of it. (I spent a year building a little open hardware robot just to see if I could figure it out)

[real pivot]

as long as you dont actually intend on using it. then sure you could get these boards and flash a 2 year old unsupported version on there and look at it boot...

[earnest mural]

Might have a look at Nixos on it https://www.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/t9j0b0/experience_report_home_assistant_on_nixos/

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if your going to run container then you could could using any distro with docker. but you loose native updating and native addon support.

[earnest mural]

I might have a go without containerisation. Been meaning to try Nix for a while: https://search.nixos.org/packages?channel=unstable&from=0&size=50&sort=relevance&type=packages&query=home-assistant

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using those kind of packages are again not officially supprted so your at the mercy of whomever maintains for nix. but can have a go

[earnest mural]

Doesn't look like they have Beagle as a target anyway, so maybe virtualised is the only route.