Alexa devices | Home Assistant | Page 1

lunar galleon Apr 26, 2025, 8:00 AM

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alexa_devices Let's have a chat about Amazon Alexa devices

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@pallid shale @untold spindle @junior crag @woven flint @full ore

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@plucky sentinel

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pallid shale Apr 26, 2025, 8:07 AM

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lunar galleon Apr 26, 2025, 8:09 AM

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Do we know what Amazon expects with headers and such?

pallid shale Apr 26, 2025, 8:10 AM

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I think so, lib currently is able to retrieve all devices data

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Only posting an announcement doesn’t currently work.
But I’m quite sure we are pretty close for it as well.

queen dawn Apr 26, 2025, 11:20 AM

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What is Amazon devices ? You mean the Alexa integration ?

pallid shale Apr 26, 2025, 11:21 AM

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I starting writing a new lib: https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices

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And a first implementation on HA side as well: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/132154

lunar galleon Apr 26, 2025, 2:28 PM

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queen dawn What is Amazon devices ? You mean the Alexa integration ?

Alexa media player. But the API supports more than echo devices

rigid sphinx Apr 26, 2025, 5:23 PM

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lunar galleon Alexa media player. But the API supports more than echo devices

and more stable?

untold spindle Apr 26, 2025, 5:30 PM

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rigid sphinx and more stable?

No, we don't want to disturb the known user experience.

rigid sphinx Apr 26, 2025, 5:33 PM

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untold spindle No, we don't want to disturb the known user experience.

to be fair its been stable for a while now

untold spindle Apr 26, 2025, 5:35 PM

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@pallid shale Do you have a link to the test script at hand?

pallid shale Apr 26, 2025, 5:43 PM

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@untold spindle you mean https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/blob/main/library_test.py ?

untold spindle Apr 26, 2025, 5:44 PM

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Yes, thought it would have been somewhere else 🫣

pallid shale Apr 26, 2025, 5:45 PM

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All in the repo 😉

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Just added testing info to readme: https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices?tab=readme-ov-file#test

pallid shale Apr 26, 2025, 6:49 PM

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I think I got it

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at least I see in the log: Response 200 for url https://alexa.amazon.it/api/behaviors/preview

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but not home to check if Alexa really speaks

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PR updated

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Works 🚀 🎉 explode
I used my camera to get the audio from home and I can hear the message

pallid shale Apr 27, 2025, 7:17 PM

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So @lunar galleon which is the next step ? Revitalize https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/132154 ? Open a new PR for notify platform only ? Any other idea ?

lunar galleon Apr 27, 2025, 8:27 PM

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I would say merge in in between branch and get the new platform PR ready

pallid shale Apr 29, 2025, 1:14 PM

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Hi

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finished also migration from httpx to aiohttp

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Cookies needs a bit more handling. Anyone want to review the PR for letting me know if it's good to go ?

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https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/pull/151

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Found a simpler way

pallid shale Apr 29, 2025, 1:42 PM

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Released 0.14.0

pallid shale Apr 29, 2025, 2:15 PM

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Is ok to use from pydantic.utils import deep_update for nested dict update or there is a different, preferred way ?

lunar galleon Apr 29, 2025, 2:19 PM

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nested dict update?

pallid shale Apr 29, 2025, 2:50 PM

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update some values of a dict inside a dict

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Currently I used a if but wanted to optimize code: https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/pull/155

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Was thinking to optimize with something like:
source = {'hello': {'value': 'to_override', 'no_change': 1}} overrides = {'hello': {'value': 'over'}} deep_update(source, overrides) assert source == {'hello': {'value': 'over', 'no_change': 1}}

pallid shale May 4, 2025, 5:01 PM

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Hi, small (but not so small) update:

Implemented both Alexa.Speak and AlexaAnnoucement
Tested with httpx: all features implemented works fine !
Tested with aiohttp: cannot pass login because of a missing redirect (getting 200 instead of 302)
Added a draft PR with a httpx wrapper to allow easy swap from one library to another

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I spent tens of hours trying to understand what's wrong.
Played with:

headers
cookies / cookie_jar
encoding
everything without success

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Anyone willing to help?

pallid shale May 7, 2025, 6:03 PM

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Hi!

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a few news:

added some features like "play music", "play sound", "send custom text command"
code cleanup and optimization
create branch "amazon_devices" on core side
opened draft PR for the new integration

pallid shale May 10, 2025, 4:38 PM

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Hi guys, anyone that can help with the aiohttp issue ?

lunar galleon May 10, 2025, 4:59 PM

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I will try to find some time in the coming week

pallid shale May 17, 2025, 1:37 PM

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Hi guys, what do you think if we temporary merge the PR for httpx, so we can progress on the HA side and leave the swap to aiohttp for later ?
We are stuck on that task since long time

lunar galleon May 17, 2025, 1:45 PM

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I am happy to do that

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as in

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I thought I would have time now, but I did not and dove in other things and reviews

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and I expect next week to be revolving around community day, and the week after around my new appartment

pallid shale May 17, 2025, 1:57 PM

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Thanks! When I’ll be back home I will proceed with the merge.

pallid shale May 19, 2025, 6:30 PM

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Hi,
notify platform is ready 🎉
Will add tests and then prepare a PR

lunar galleon May 19, 2025, 6:49 PM

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did we use entities?

pallid shale May 19, 2025, 7:48 PM

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You mean entities instead of actions? If so, yes !

lunar galleon May 19, 2025, 7:49 PM

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oh awesome

pallid shale May 20, 2025, 9:42 AM

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@lunar galleon for Alexa I need to be able to specify a method/mode between ( speak, sound, announcement, etc. ).
I though to add a "mode: XXXX" key to notify.send_message data payload, but it fails.
Is that the correct approach ? OR should I instead create more notify entities one per each "method" ?

lunar galleon May 20, 2025, 9:51 AM

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cc @fresh hull

fresh hull May 20, 2025, 1:11 PM

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Alexa supports specific device classes, like a doorbell using a notify entity. https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/alexa.smart_home/#doorbell-events Not sure that is what you are looking at

pallid shale May 20, 2025, 2:16 PM

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Is not that we expose to Alexa is for talking to a echo

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And we have different ways to do that: speak, announce, sound, etc.

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They all work on my library

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I just need to know if I can extend the data payload of the notify entity or instead I should create a entity for each type/mode

pallid shale May 20, 2025, 7:14 PM

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Just to clarify even more:

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Current AMP behavior:

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action: media_player.play_media
data:
  media_content_id: Metti Radio deejay su tunein
  media_content_type: custom
target:
  entity_id: media_player.echo_dot_sala

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note: "type can be custom, speak, sound, annount, etc

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First idea for new integration:

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action: notify.send_message
data:
  message: test
  mode: speak
target:
 entity_id: notify.echo_dot_sala

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note: "mode" can be custom, speak, sound, radio, etc.

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Second idea:

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action: notify.send_message
data:
  message: test
target:
 entity_id: notify.speak_echo_dot_sala

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note: will create one entity for each mode

pallid shale May 21, 2025, 12:31 PM

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Morning, I decided to go ahead and commit notify platform and its tests.
Is based on the last idea exposed above

pallid shale May 21, 2025, 4:18 PM

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Hi everyone

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I commited also the switch platform

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We now have all the main features to include the new integration in core

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What we miss compared to AMP ?

sensors: next alarm, next reminder, next timer
media player: real time status of what's playing
switch: music shuffle, music repeat

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BTW, test coverage is 100% so far

untold spindle May 21, 2025, 5:46 PM

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pallid shale We now have all the main features to include the new integration in core

Great job!

pallid shale May 21, 2025, 5:49 PM

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Thx!

pallid shale May 24, 2025, 1:06 PM

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Hi guys, integration is finally ready for review !!! Fingers crossed !!!

lunar galleon May 24, 2025, 6:39 PM

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I'm not sure if it will make June release

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As in. I don't really feel like rushing it in right now, although I do like the extra week of beta

pallid shale May 24, 2025, 9:44 PM

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Let’s review anyway please. Then we can await merging if not wanted in beta

lunar galleon May 25, 2025, 3:41 PM

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@everyone Can you check what the mac addresses are for your alexa devices?

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So far we have

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C0:95:CF Amazon Technologies Inc
9C:C8:E9 Amazon Technologies Inc
74:D6:37 Amazon Technologies Inc
10:BF:67 Amazon Technologies Inc

untold spindle May 25, 2025, 3:49 PM

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lunar galleon @everyone Can you check what the mac addresses are for your alexa devices?

You need the last 3 parts of the MAC?

lunar galleon May 25, 2025, 3:49 PM

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first 3

untold spindle May 25, 2025, 3:49 PM

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4C:17:44

pallid shale May 25, 2025, 3:50 PM

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Thx, this resolve to Amazon Technologies Inc as well

lunar galleon May 25, 2025, 3:50 PM

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https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/145587

rigid sphinx May 25, 2025, 3:54 PM

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lunar galleon ``` C0:95:CF Amazon Technologies Inc 9C:C8:E9 Amazon Technologies Inc 74:D6:37 A...

d8:be:65
50:dc:e7
48:b4:23

lunar galleon May 25, 2025, 3:54 PM

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I think we will find many more during beta

rigid sphinx May 25, 2025, 3:54 PM

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does a fire stick count too? if yes then ec:2b:eb

pallid shale May 25, 2025, 3:55 PM

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yeah, there will be a lot

pallid shale May 25, 2025, 3:55 PM

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rigid sphinx does a fire stick count too? if yes then ```ec:2b:eb```

yes please

lunar galleon May 25, 2025, 3:55 PM

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pallid shale yes please

do they work as well?

pallid shale May 25, 2025, 3:55 PM

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seems so

lunar galleon May 25, 2025, 3:55 PM

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no I mean, do they have any use case in the integration?

pallid shale May 25, 2025, 3:55 PM

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you can send a custom command to start netflix for example of music and

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those are present in AMP as well

rigid sphinx May 25, 2025, 3:56 PM

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yeah i use amp to send a turn tv off to a fire stick which sends to tv via hdmi-cec

pallid shale May 25, 2025, 3:57 PM

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you may also help finding those info for your devices:

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"A2U21SRK4QGSE1": {
        "model": "Echo Dot Clock",
        "hw_version": "Gen4",
    }

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Current list is there: https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/blob/main/src/aioamazondevices/const.py#L68

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IIRC, AMP shows those info

untold spindle May 25, 2025, 3:58 PM

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I think AMP does also include the Alexa app on mobile. 🤔

pallid shale May 25, 2025, 4:00 PM

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Yeah but IMHO this doesn't make really sense

lunar galleon May 25, 2025, 4:01 PM

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@pallid shale bluetooth, shouldn't that be without device class

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now it shows

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pallid shale May 25, 2025, 4:01 PM

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and it shouldn't ?

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I have it disconnected on 2 devices and connected on 1

lunar galleon May 25, 2025, 4:01 PM

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well the bluetooth itelf is not connected

pallid shale May 25, 2025, 4:02 PM

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is that a bluetooth enabled for you that shows as connected ?

lunar galleon May 25, 2025, 4:03 PM

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yes

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as in

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I don't have it connected with anything

untold spindle May 25, 2025, 4:04 PM

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Device type for my Echo Dot Gen3 is already in your list.

lunar galleon May 25, 2025, 4:06 PM

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Can we add a discovery thing where we log in the logs that we found a model ID we have not seen yet and ask them to open an issue against the library?

plucky sentinel May 25, 2025, 4:09 PM

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lunar galleon @everyone Can you check what the mac addresses are for your alexa devices?

Will do tomorrow

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Just walking off a mountain

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pallid shale May 25, 2025, 4:09 PM

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lunar galleon I don't have it connected with anything

will remove the deviceclass

plucky sentinel May 25, 2025, 4:09 PM

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1100 feet in 1k

pallid shale May 25, 2025, 4:10 PM

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lunar galleon Can we add a discovery thing where we log in the logs that we found a model ID w...

Good idea!

lunar galleon May 25, 2025, 4:10 PM

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plucky sentinel

be sure to smile 😛

plucky sentinel May 25, 2025, 4:10 PM

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Too tired

lunar galleon May 25, 2025, 4:10 PM

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good luck

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o7

untold spindle May 25, 2025, 4:22 PM

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salute

rigid sphinx May 25, 2025, 4:23 PM

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pallid shale you may also help finding those info for your devices:

there's a list on the echo-speaks repo not sure if you might want to use those or only trust newly collected data?

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along with other devices that have alexa built in which may crop up

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they are at the bottom of the linked above

pallid shale May 25, 2025, 4:27 PM

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I don't know how trusty is this repo. Will check in the next days

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Thx for sharing

rigid sphinx May 25, 2025, 4:31 PM

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yeah, thats fair. i have no idea how that data was sourced. if nothing else it gives you a list of possible random devices that might crop up

lunar galleon May 26, 2025, 8:50 AM

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ok whats still left ot merge

pallid shale May 26, 2025, 8:58 AM

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3 very easy:

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2 platforms:

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testing locally a fix for config flow ( missing async_step_dhcp() )

lunar galleon May 26, 2025, 9:01 AM

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pallid shale + testing locally a fix for config flow ( missing `async_step_dhcp()` )

we don't need to have that one

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there's a default implementation for discovery steps

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it just starts a new flow with the user step, but only if there is no flow running or when there's no config entry added

pallid shale May 26, 2025, 9:03 AM

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But nothing is discovered

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oh, DHCP is not getting data on the dev container lately

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let me try live

lunar galleon May 26, 2025, 9:04 AM

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it worked for me at least

pallid shale May 26, 2025, 9:09 AM

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Yeah it's fine, was a dev container network issue

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one thing less to do 😉

pallid shale May 26, 2025, 4:26 PM

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Guys, everything that was reasy in now merged !!!

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Cannot wait you all giving feedback and testing during beta !

untold spindle May 26, 2025, 4:26 PM

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Did it make it into this beta?

pallid shale May 26, 2025, 4:27 PM

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Yeah, thx to great help of @lunar galleon

untold spindle May 26, 2025, 4:27 PM

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Can't wait to retire AMP.

pallid shale May 26, 2025, 4:28 PM

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We still have 3 things to implement:

3 sensors: next alarm, next reminder, next timer
2 services: send sound and send custom command
media player entity with real time WS

rigid sphinx May 26, 2025, 4:31 PM

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pallid shale We still have 3 things to implement: - 3 sensors: `next alarm`, `next reminder`,...

please allow for multiple timers to be seen and used in some kind of reasonable way... I have some wild stuff with AMP to get data from and display 3 timers on my kitchen dashboard 😛

pallid shale May 26, 2025, 4:32 PM

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Open to suggestion on how to implement the 3 sensors

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Maybe a binary sensor that is "ON" if at least 1 timer is on and then in the extra_attributes list all those that are active ?

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Will start with the services as those are ready from the library point of view

lunar galleon May 26, 2025, 4:37 PM

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pallid shale Maybe a binary sensor that is "ON" if at least 1 timer is on and then in the ext...

I'm going to veto that already 😂

rigid sphinx May 26, 2025, 4:37 PM

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attributes are on the way out i think 😛

lunar galleon May 26, 2025, 4:37 PM

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rigid sphinx attributes are on the way out i think 😛

it's just like spices

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you sometimes need them

rigid sphinx May 26, 2025, 4:38 PM

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this is the chaos I currently have to give you inspiration on what NOT to do - https://pastebin.com/a7jxnyk5
I wrote this quite a while ago so... whilst i will take questions i may not be able to answer them...

pallid shale May 26, 2025, 4:39 PM

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throw an idea on the table

lunar galleon May 26, 2025, 4:39 PM

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services could work

pallid shale May 26, 2025, 4:40 PM

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rigid sphinx this is the chaos I currently have to give you inspiration on what NOT to do - h...

IIRC it works because in the extra_attributes of AMP you have the full raw json

pallid shale May 26, 2025, 4:40 PM

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lunar galleon services could work

?

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How you see the state of the timer with a service ?

lunar galleon May 26, 2025, 4:41 PM

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response values of a service

pallid shale May 26, 2025, 4:45 PM

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what's the full flow ?
We have data in the coordinator that are refreshed on a schedule, and then ?

rigid sphinx May 26, 2025, 4:45 PM

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pallid shale IIRC it works because in the extra_attributes of AMP you have the full raw json

yeah, i remember trying to make sense of it for a while before i got this method "working"

lunar galleon May 26, 2025, 4:46 PM

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pallid shale what's the full flow ? We have data in the coordinator that are refreshed on a s...

you can use service to get that data for an automation

untold spindle May 26, 2025, 4:49 PM

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I assume you mean like the weather.get_forecasts action?

lunar galleon May 26, 2025, 4:49 PM

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yes

pallid shale May 26, 2025, 4:50 PM

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thx for the pointer, will look into it

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after implementing the actions

rigid sphinx May 26, 2025, 4:56 PM

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if the data is only on request then there needs to be some kind of push for when an alarm is set/canceled. perhaps an event too.
event types be something like timer set / timer cancelled / timer adjusted so can automate on when something happens

pallid shale May 26, 2025, 8:14 PM

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PR for services: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/145645
Is draft because it needs more love:

better schema for device list
handle a list of devices
validate sound against the sounds list from library

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 2:24 PM

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Hi guys

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fine for everyone if I gather data only for active "schedules" ( Timers, Reminders and Alarms ) ?

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I don't see a use case for those that are already OFF

rigid sphinx May 27, 2025, 2:26 PM

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when is a timer no longer active? when it reaches the end or when its silenced by the user?

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I feel that seeing "recently active" timers would be nice. but to be fair i am not sure this means you need to pull the data from expired timers. its just a matter of a user being able to see it. using an event when things happens means a user to pull that data.

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not exactly sure on implementation but hopefully my use case thoughts are sort of sensible

plucky sentinel May 27, 2025, 5:19 PM

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@pallid shale are we able to run both AMP and this integration at the same time? I would assume yes. Just asking before I attempt to use it later today

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 5:19 PM

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yes

plucky sentinel May 27, 2025, 5:48 PM

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lunar galleon yes

thanks chemelli74

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 7:06 PM

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@rigid sphinx a Timer is no longer active when it expires or it's silenced by the user.
This is the structure I have in mind:

AmazonSchedule(
type='Alarm', 
status='ON', 
label=None, 
original_date='2025-05-28', 
original_time='06:00:00.000', 
recurring_pattern='XXXX-WD', 
remaining_time=0
)```

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I would say for Alarm we may want 3 entities in the UI:

switch: enabled/disabled
sensor: time
sensor: recurrence
creating and removing them dinamically ?

rigid sphinx May 27, 2025, 7:10 PM

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pallid shale <@354452014068924428> a Timer is no longer active when it expires or it's silenc...

when you say "or" that implies its inactive whilst its erm "alerting"

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 7:10 PM

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Plus 3 hardcoded and for "next alarm"

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 7:11 PM

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rigid sphinx when you say "or" that implies its inactive whilst its erm "alerting"

it's on but as soon as I silence it then it goes off.

rigid sphinx May 27, 2025, 7:11 PM

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gotcha

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most of my experience comes from "timers" rather than "alarms"

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 7:11 PM

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@lunar galleon what do you thin kabout the above design ?

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 7:12 PM

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rigid sphinx most of my experience comes from "timers" rather than "alarms"

I want to rapresent all 3 kind of "schedules": timer, alarm and reminder

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 7:12 PM

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whats the label

rigid sphinx May 27, 2025, 7:13 PM

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yeah therees subtle differences in what may be wanted. e.g. timer wants to know the length/progress of the timer. whereas an alarm probably only needs "time until"

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 7:14 PM

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Yup, will rapresent different data for different types

rigid sphinx May 27, 2025, 7:15 PM

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would "remaining time" be a timedelta or just a number (e.g. in seconds)?

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 7:16 PM

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we should do a remaining time, but rather the end time

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 7:16 PM

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is always a timestamp but one will be named "Alarm schedule" the other one "Timer"

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 7:19 PM

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lunar galleon whats the label

The label is the name of the object you gave for example "Alexa set timer Pasta 5 minutes", so label="Pasta"

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or could be None; in this case I would use the internal number like "Timer n° 27"

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 7:21 PM

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so its not a sticking one?

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 7:22 PM

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Exactly

rigid sphinx May 27, 2025, 7:23 PM

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from what i remember from AMP stuff they have a UUID too right? is it worth adding this as a guanteed unique thing between things in case there is some need at some point?

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 7:23 PM

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Only sticking would the the “next alarm”

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 7:25 PM

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hmpf, I think this isn't ideal

rigid sphinx May 27, 2025, 7:25 PM

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i remember a situation
if you:
set 10 min timer
set 5 minute timer
using alexa refering to "2nd timer" it will be the 5 min timer.
however on the timer list the 5 minute timer was first because it was "next up"
this means that if you have multiple timers of different lengths they change places in the data.

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this is a "known issue" of my kitchen dashboard that the order changes

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 7:29 PM

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The thing is, this will create entities that appear and dissapear on the go

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I also have this issue with squeezebox

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They also want to add alarms

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Maybe this should be an entity type that just returns a list or so

rigid sphinx May 27, 2025, 7:33 PM

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was there any thought about the concept of a "timer" within ha itself? which could be used by integrations? e.g. seeing the timer on a VPE. i remember it coming up during a stream or afterparty at some point but no idea if it went anywhere

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 7:33 PM

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there is a proposal for that laying around

plucky sentinel May 27, 2025, 8:50 PM

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@pallid shale nice job on the integration

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already 100x faster than amp

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 9:22 PM

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rigid sphinx this is a "known issue" of my kitchen dashboard that the order changes

If you use the version to sort them this won’t happen first is always first second is always second

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 9:23 PM

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plucky sentinel already 100x faster than amp

And we are still on httpx, imagine when we swap to aiohttp

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 9:24 PM

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lunar galleon Maybe this should be an entity type that just returns a list or so

So a sensor for alarm with a list of all alarms ? But that needs 3 info at least so a list of what ? Dict ?

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 9:24 PM

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pallid shale So a sensor for alarm with a list of all alarms ? But that needs 3 info at least...

I would lean towards something more architectural changing

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but it will likely be a difficult one

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As in, I don't see a nice way to do entities for alarms

They dissapear and are created whenever they feel like
Thus they are hard to automate with

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 9:26 PM

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Depends, if you use always the same name for a timer or a reminder or a alarm then automation is easy

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For example timer for cooking or timer for irrigation

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The trick is to give those object a name (label in my data class)

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 9:27 PM

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yes but they still come and go

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you can't just put them on a dashboard

rigid sphinx May 27, 2025, 9:27 PM

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i imagine the majority of people dont set a name for their timers

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 9:27 PM

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you need to do some fancy templating stuff to be able to properly see them

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 9:28 PM

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lunar galleon you can't just put them on a dashboard

Autoentities does the trick quite easily

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 9:28 PM

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so yes, you can put everything in entities, but it will be very hard to manage

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yes, but that is not core

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 9:28 PM

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True

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 9:28 PM

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Like, yes, it's a solution, but it's not the user experience I would want to give to a user

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out of the box

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 9:29 PM

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I agree; one solution that would help in a lot of use cases is to first integrate autoentities 😊

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 9:30 PM

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I think even with auto entities this will be horrible tbh

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But hence I think a new platform might fit better here, but I will have to check what others think of this

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 9:31 PM

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Why ? I use that a lot in my dashboard and is amazing the result (for me at least )

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About https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/145645 can I have a help for the device selector ? Dunno how to handle it properly

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And if possible I would also avoid picking up entities

rigid sphinx May 27, 2025, 9:37 PM

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how silly of a suggestion is it to use a calendar? it will no doubt have some issues but I mean in concept, it does stuff at a specified time and you can measure how long until an event? and it has data fields?

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 9:41 PM

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that's very silly michael

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😂

rigid sphinx May 27, 2025, 9:43 PM

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yeah, fair enough. it felt silly but it also felt like it "could work"

pallid shale May 27, 2025, 9:50 PM

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@lunar galleon want to comment about sounds ?

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 9:51 PM

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I just did lol

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but I am now going to bed because I need to sign documents tomorrow to get my house

plucky sentinel May 27, 2025, 10:33 PM

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Not getting anouncements from the new integration, are we 100% sure you can have both amp and ad running at the same time?

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 10:35 PM

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Works on my device

plucky sentinel May 27, 2025, 10:36 PM

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Getting

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📎 message.txt

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I think that crashed the thread running it too. Just restarted to see if I can make it work

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Yeah, definitely a bug somewhere here that crashes the speak/announce thread or callback

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That exception above is what crashes it, reload does not fix it.

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have to restart

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well, that wasn't the reason it wasn't working at first. It's working now, still getting the above exception in the logs.

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 10:42 PM

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That's, interesting?

plucky sentinel May 27, 2025, 10:43 PM

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also getting this on startup

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this

📎 message.txt

lunar galleon May 27, 2025, 10:47 PM

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Check

pallid shale May 28, 2025, 5:22 AM

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I don’t see it always here.
Is there a shared session for httpx like there is one for aiohttp ?

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 6:55 AM

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Yes

pallid shale May 28, 2025, 6:56 AM

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So probably we need to swap to it to avoid the warning ?

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 6:57 AM

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Or use the shared session

pallid shale May 28, 2025, 6:57 AM

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This is what I mean swap to the shared httpx session

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 6:58 AM

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Ah

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I thought you wanted to swap to aiohttp

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Which is also fine

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But

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I don't want you to take on that pressure right now if you don't feel like it

pallid shale May 28, 2025, 6:59 AM

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Not yet, aiohttp is still not working for some reason

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And I spent 10+ hours investigating without any luck

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Found: create_async_httpx_client

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Will code it once I have a PC in my hands

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 10:48 AM

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I checked with the core team and I think it would be nice to improve the alarm entity proposal and give that a shot

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Be sure to check with @wraith vessel because he also is working on alarms, but in squeezebox

wraith vessel May 28, 2025, 12:05 PM

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With the demise of attributes, we really do need an alarm entity

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https://github.com/home-assistant/architecture/discussions/1089

GitHub

Alarm clock support · home-assistant architecture · Discussion #1089

Context I started implementing alarm clock support in home-assistant/core#117755, but I was guided here to propose and have a discussion over it. Currently, setting up an alarm clock in Home Assist...

plucky sentinel May 28, 2025, 12:07 PM

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time entity

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not sure how that would work with entities getting created and removed on the fly

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as an FYI, WLED does that if you add/remove segments

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because we don't use attributes, it's going to be very challenging for anyone to properly use anything but "next alarm"

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probably will need a responding service to get active alarms

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🎉

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maybe a new timer event entity with the new entity in the attribute, then dynamically create time entities while also having a next timer entity?

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@lunar galleon thoughts?

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still won't make automations easy though.

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 12:13 PM

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plucky sentinel as an FYI, WLED does that if you add/remove segments

But you don't do that daily

plucky sentinel May 28, 2025, 12:14 PM

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Uh yes people do

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WLED is literally designed to have presets create & destroy segments

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it's a fucking nightmare to manage on HA"s side because of the thought that "people don't do that daily"

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it was such a pain in the ass, that I just spent hours building presets in WLED instead of using normal automations in HA

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it gets even worse if you use a real controller outside wled to control wled devices

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anyways, maybe just a timer event entity? That would be a single entity that handles timers. Each new timer would just be an event. Users can use the time provided in the attributes of the entity to key off of

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event.timers, with new_timer event type, update_timer event type, and attributes that describe the total duration and when it's ending. I.e. duration with timedelta, end with datetime, and source amazon device.

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That wouldn't be too hard to automate with.

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and it's in-line with HA's core philosophys

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 12:30 PM

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plucky sentinel `event.timers`, with `new_timer` event type, `update_timer` event type, and attr...

Event would suck here as well as neither integrations are push based

plucky sentinel May 28, 2025, 12:31 PM

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Alright, then what? Something's gotta give, either a new platform or follow in line with current platforms, or dynamically created entities.

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a sensor with attributes wouldn't make it through a PR

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 1:01 PM

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plucky sentinel Alright, then what? Something's gotta give, either a new platform or follow in ...

Well that's why I'm saying, I think it's worth to explore a new platform

plucky sentinel May 28, 2025, 1:02 PM

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Will your team members agree with that? I have my doubts.

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 1:02 PM

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plucky sentinel Will your team members agree with that? I have my doubts.

I checked today and there wasn't an immediate no

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As in, I still can't guarantee that we want it, but we think it's worth exploring

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Also because we now have 2 core integrations that both have active developers

plucky sentinel May 28, 2025, 1:04 PM

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what integrations?

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(just curious)

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 1:05 PM

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Amazon devices and squeezebox

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There probably are more, but now they both are looking into alarms

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Squeezebox now has basic support for it this release

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But it's meh

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They don't have names

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So it's literally Alarm (asdakajdjdhsjabsbshsjwsomthing)

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I still think that that is shitty in a way, but it's something

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Like, I'd rather explore this solution than have more entities in the future like a time

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Or a service to modify the schedule

plucky sentinel May 28, 2025, 1:08 PM

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I mean, what are people looking to get out of alarm?

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 1:08 PM

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And I'm sure there are more integrations that can use this. I'm wondering if integrations that provide some sort of timer can also make use of this, like SmartThings

plucky sentinel May 28, 2025, 1:09 PM

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I'd assume it would be a single entity, alarms. With services to get / set active alarms like todo, calendar, and weather

pallid shale May 28, 2025, 1:09 PM

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Dont' forget Timers and Reminders, that area particular way of setting a "Alarm"

plucky sentinel May 28, 2025, 1:10 PM

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well, that's why I was leaning towards time entity because it's supported by the time trigger with offset

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but I have no idea what this new "trigger system" is going to be

pallid shale May 28, 2025, 1:10 PM

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for Amazon Devices we can use "Name" (label) if provided by the user or the number under the wood, that won't change

plucky sentinel May 28, 2025, 1:10 PM

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so, that could solve alot of these weirdness

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 1:10 PM

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Well, do we want ephermal entities that create and remove on the fly for timers?

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Or what do we do with recurring alarms?

pallid shale May 28, 2025, 1:11 PM

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and we will still need to decide if we report only active objects or all retrieved objects

plucky sentinel May 28, 2025, 1:11 PM

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typically people are pushed to calendar with reoccuring events

pallid shale May 28, 2025, 1:11 PM

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for example Alarms in Alexa App are all listed so even if inactive you can enable them with a click

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 1:12 PM

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Can they be combined? Or should they be separate? Because they have similarities

plucky sentinel May 28, 2025, 1:12 PM

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What about calendar? Now that I think about it

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it's essentially a schedule

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it has all the abilities we are looking for

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 1:13 PM

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plucky sentinel it's essentially a schedule

But we can't mutate it

plucky sentinel May 28, 2025, 1:14 PM

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what do you mean? Calendars are polled and events update on poll

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they have a start and end time

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is there no way to update an event?

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 1:14 PM

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So far we don't want those mutable as those probably would be too complex and the native app or way of configuring would be way better

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 1:14 PM

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plucky sentinel is there no way to update an event?

No

plucky sentinel May 28, 2025, 1:15 PM

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so if an event is updated in google calendar, it's not updated in HA downstream?

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 1:15 PM

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It is

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But not by HA

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It's not that HA can move an event for you

plucky sentinel May 28, 2025, 1:15 PM

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that just seems like we add a new service for calendar to adjust it

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with via supported features

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I mean, alarms will likely end up close to calendar in functionality

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just thinking out loud

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 1:18 PM

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plucky sentinel that just seems like we add a new service for calendar to adjust it

Well that's what I say, we don't do that

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Because that's likely complex

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Because yes, you could use that to configure alarms

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But what if you want to configure the alarm sound for that event?

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Volume?

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Yes, we could support the basics but that would still be useless for a ton of people

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Check all the services for charging schedule in wallbox and renault

plucky sentinel May 28, 2025, 1:23 PM

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Didn't think about volume/alerts

pallid shale May 28, 2025, 1:31 PM

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lunar galleon Can they be combined? Or should they be separate? Because they have similarities

what you mean exacly ?

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Maybe that one single entity type with a few features will make it for all ? If this is the idea, I strongly agree

plucky sentinel May 28, 2025, 1:34 PM

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Yes, that's what the current idea is

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at least from what I gathered

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it follows the same principles we have for weather, calendar, todo, etc

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1 entity with things happening in the background for easy use in automations

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 1:48 PM

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pallid shale what you mean exacly ?

I mean is a recurring alarm a different type of entity than a timer? Or are they similar enough in behaviour?

pallid shale May 28, 2025, 1:48 PM

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I suppose 1 entity type that will be used one for each object, not 1 entity for everything

pallid shale May 28, 2025, 1:48 PM

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lunar galleon I mean is a recurring alarm a different type of entity than a timer? Or are they...

They are basically all the same

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 1:48 PM

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pallid shale They are basically all the same

Well, timers can be temporary, while some are not

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Same for alarms

pallid shale May 28, 2025, 1:49 PM

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and reminders, so basically they are very similar eachother 😉

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@dataclass
class AmazonSchedule:
    """Amazon schedule class."""

    type: str
    status: str
    label: str  # alarmLabel, reminderLabel, timerLabel
    original_date: str
    original_time: str
    recurring_pattern: str
    remaining_time: int

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with that class you have all you need

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 1:49 PM

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pallid shale and reminders, so basically they are very similar eachother 😉

Right, but can we try to model that in an entity type for HA?

pallid shale May 28, 2025, 1:50 PM

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for example if type = Timer than you use remaining_time, and not if it's an Alarm. But still...

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Entity model could be something like:
value = timestamp based on remaining_time for Timer, based on original_date/time for Alarms. Reminders is one of the other 2, need to recheck.
name = label or version (internal number)
persistent = if recurring_pattern not None

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 1:53 PM

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But let's discuss this in a broader picture

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And in a different channel

pallid shale May 28, 2025, 1:53 PM

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Yup

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do you open the thread ?

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 1:54 PM

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You can, I'm currently in a hardware shop

pallid shale May 28, 2025, 1:58 PM

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under #members ?

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 2:41 PM

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we can make one in projects

wraith vessel May 28, 2025, 2:57 PM

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if you send me a link when you open it, I'd be interested as well

pallid shale May 28, 2025, 6:42 PM

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lunar galleon I just did lol

Task completed 😉

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 6:43 PM

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nice

pallid shale May 28, 2025, 6:43 PM

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I need help with the device selector

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anyone ?

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 6:44 PM

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plucky sentinel Will your team members agree with that? I have my doubts.

The fact that Paulus is now also commenting and giving directions also helps 🙂

wraith vessel May 28, 2025, 7:07 PM

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lunar galleon Amazon devices and squeezebox

Oh, don't worry, I agree it's a bit crap, but without attributes, which as @plucky sentinel says aren't allowed anymore and without a new platform, we're pretty stuffed

lunar galleon May 28, 2025, 7:08 PM

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I know, hence I am connecting you 2 up so you have another reason to not weed the weeds and to make sure alarms are nicely integrated

wraith vessel May 28, 2025, 7:22 PM

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lunar galleon I know, hence I am connecting you 2 up so you have another reason to not weed th...

I had to do more weeding this afternoon - a sure sign we need something new 🙂 I posted an architecture discussion earlier to add "extra" to async_search - weeding is good thinking time ....

pallid shale May 29, 2025, 7:15 AM

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Morning, anyone that has an Amazon account from a country that is not Italy, Japan, Uk ?

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@brave drum for example 😉

brave drum May 29, 2025, 7:16 AM

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What do you need?

pallid shale May 29, 2025, 7:16 AM

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Please go to https://www.amazon.it/ap/signin and then post the redirected url. I'm mainly interested in the openid.assoc_handle parameter for now

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UK needs a fix that will be fine for Italy as well

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ref: https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/pull/191

brave drum May 29, 2025, 7:23 AM

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for PL: openid.assoc_handle=plflex

pallid shale May 29, 2025, 7:23 AM

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so I would says it's a rule

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anyone from US that can check ?

brave drum May 29, 2025, 7:25 AM

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same for DE openid.assoc_handle=deflex

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US: openid.assoc_handle=usflex

pallid shale May 29, 2025, 7:43 AM

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Thx

lunar galleon May 31, 2025, 3:20 PM

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@pallid shale how is debugging going?

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Do we expect much more of these issues?

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If so, we should try to debug more in the public so others can also try to figure out what's going on

rich juniper May 31, 2025, 3:24 PM

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Some users are also reporting issues in the documentation repository, if you need more testers.

lunar galleon May 31, 2025, 3:25 PM

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Ah I don't have eyes on that

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 4:24 PM

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@lunar galleon 3 things so far:

UK users are unable to authenticate, even if with a small change they are able to login. Under investigation
swap from httpx to aiohttp is progressing now; a huge debugging and reverse ingeneering work. WiP
documentation: need to add an alert about only supporting MFA via App right now

lunar galleon May 31, 2025, 4:27 PM

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what small change?

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 4:44 PM

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https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/pull/192

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but that's a wrong approach

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IMHO

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to get an authenticated session teh value needs to be similar to:
DEFAULT_ASSOC_HANDLE = "amzn_dp_project_dee_ios"

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I thing that "_<country>" needs to be appended only for non English speaking ones. But not sure. Cannot test on my own 😦

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 5:26 PM

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About aiohttp: code is not finally working 🎉 🚀 explode
It was a huge journey, really hard to go through, but in the end it's there
Really proud of not giving up and made it working

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may you guys test https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/pull/205 and report back ?

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So I'll merge and release

lunar galleon May 31, 2025, 5:46 PM

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I don't have the time to test right now

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 6:00 PM

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Using pip and the testscript doesn't test those changes, right?

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 6:01 PM

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yup it will but need a complete syntax

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 6:01 PM

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I thought it would need a pypi release.

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 6:02 PM

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pip install "git+https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices.git@chemelli74-cookies#aioamazondevices==3.0.2"

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If I didn't type any typos, should work

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 6:03 PM

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Roger, roger. I'll try it.

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-# Noob at work.

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 6:04 PM

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which country are you using for aioamazondevices ?

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 6:04 PM

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Germany (de)

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Using the script with the syntax
python library_test.py --country de --email mymail@gmail.com --password abcd12334 --otp_code 123456
seems to login, but there are a few error messages.

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  File "d:\jorgw\Downloads\HDD\Home Assistant\library_test.py", line 267, in <module>
    asyncio.run(main())
  File "C:\Program Files\Python312\Lib\asyncio\runners.py", line 195, in run
    return runner.run(main)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Program Files\Python312\Lib\asyncio\runners.py", line 118, in run
    return self._loop.run_until_complete(task)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Program Files\Python312\Lib\asyncio\base_events.py", line 691, in run_until_complete
    return future.result()
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "d:\jorgw\Downloads\HDD\Home Assistant\library_test.py", line 176, in main
    save_to_file(f"{SAVE_PATH}/output-login-data.json", login_data)
  File "d:\jorgw\Downloads\HDD\Home Assistant\library_test.py", line 93, in save_to_file
    with Path.open(Path(filename), mode="w", encoding="utf-8") as file:
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Program Files\Python312\Lib\pathlib.py", line 1013, in open
    return io.open(self, mode, buffering, encoding, errors, newline)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'out\\output-login-data.json'
2025-05-31 20:08:11.288 ERROR (MainThread) [asyncio] Unclosed client session
client_session: <aiohttp.client.ClientSession object at 0x00000112EF47F770>
2025-05-31 20:08:11.289 ERROR (MainThread) [asyncio] Unclosed connector
connections: ['deque([(<aiohttp.client_proto.ResponseHandler object at 0x00000112F0AB1FD0>, 27835.234)])', 'deque([(<aiohttp.client_proto.ResponseHandler object at 0x00000112F0CF67B0>, 27836.156)])']
connector: <aiohttp.connector.TCPConnector object at 0x00000112F06C8380>```

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 6:16 PM

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seems out folder is not created, I use that to same html and investigate what's wrong

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you can add:

Path(filename).parent.mkdir(parents=True, exist_ok=True)

at line 93 of library_test.py, just before Path.open()

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 6:28 PM

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I can run it with the options in the json file and the otp parameter

  "country": "DE",
  "email": "mail@gmail.com",
  "password": "abcd1234",
  "single_device_name": "Echo Dot",
  "cluster_device_name": "Everywhere",
  "login_data_file": "out/login_data.json",
  "save_raw_data": "True"
}```

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 6:32 PM

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Nice !

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@plucky sentinel what about you ? Can you test, so if we are 3 from 3 different countries I think we can go with it

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 6:34 PM

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But it still gives errors and doesn't play any sound.

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 6:34 PM

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Oh, you didn't post anything after the change I suggested

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please share updated output then

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 6:36 PM

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The output without your changes?
It does create the login data files now. And it does recognize the Echo Dot.

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 6:36 PM

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With the suggested change, the folder is created right ?

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 6:37 PM

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The folder has been created even without those changes. It needed the login_data_file parameter.

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 6:37 PM

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So when you run the library_test.py script, it doesn't sound.
But the script output where is ?

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 6:37 PM

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The output is stored in the out directory as expected.

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Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "d:\jorgw\Projekte\amazon\library_test.py", line 188, in main
    device_cluster = find_device(
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "d:\jorgw\Projekte\amazon\library_test.py", line 117, in find_device
    return next(
           ^^^^^
StopIteration

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "d:\jorgw\Projekte\amazon\library_test.py", line 267, in <module>
    asyncio.run(main())
  File "C:\Program Files\Python312\Lib\asyncio\runners.py", line 195, in run
    return runner.run(main)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Program Files\Python312\Lib\asyncio\runners.py", line 118, in run
    return self._loop.run_until_complete(task)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Program Files\Python312\Lib\asyncio\base_events.py", line 691, in run_until_complete
    return future.result()
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
RuntimeError: coroutine raised StopIteration
2025-05-31 20:29:46.271 ERROR (MainThread) [asyncio] Unclosed client session
client_session: <aiohttp.client.ClientSession object at 0x000001DEF40B0BC0>
2025-05-31 20:29:46.271 ERROR (MainThread) [asyncio] Unclosed connector
connections: ['deque([(<aiohttp.client_proto.ResponseHandler object at 0x000001DEF552E1B0>, 29131.171)])']
connector: <aiohttp.connector.TCPConnector object at 0x000001DEF5505280>```

lunar galleon May 31, 2025, 6:38 PM

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Do we also need @clear cliff to run it?

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 6:50 PM

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@untold spindle please share the full output

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 6:52 PM

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lunar galleon Do we also need <@190980139838996480> to run it?

the more the better

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 6:54 PM

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pallid shale <@176078742286761985> please share the full output

Every CLI output from the login data on:
https://dpaste.org/N3hoZ

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 7:24 PM

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Seems you have only 1 device: Echo Dot and no virtual group

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is tha tright ?

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 7:24 PM

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Yes.

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 7:24 PM

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Can you double check on Alexa app ?

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Ok the script needs to be updated for such scenario

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Going to

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 7:25 PM

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It wouldn't be sufficient to remove the cluster_device_name parameter from the login json?

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 7:30 PM

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    if args.cluster_device_name:
        device_cluster = find_device(
            devices, args.cluster_device_name, lambda d: len(d.device_cluster_members) > 1
        )
    else:
        device_cluster = device_single

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should work, not tested

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 7:36 PM

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Where does this have to be pasted in?

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Instead of line 188 and 189?

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 7:37 PM

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instead of the block device_cluster = find_device(...

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 7:41 PM

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Still throwing an error.

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I guess, I am doing something wrong.

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 7:41 PM

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without the log who can say that

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 7:43 PM

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Ah. User error.

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Forgot to remove the parameter.

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Now it is working and it played TTS, TTS with sound and music.

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And a pasta timer.

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 7:45 PM

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🔝

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Should be 2 different type of music

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 7:47 PM

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It is.

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 7:47 PM

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So everything works fine with aiohttp and DE as country

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 7:48 PM

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Sorry for the difficulties.

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 7:48 PM

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BTW, can you double check is aiohttp (it's reported on opening the session and closing the session as well) ?

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 7:49 PM

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untold spindle Sorry for the difficulties.

no worries, nice we sorte dit out. And I'll now update the script to handle that

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 7:50 PM

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pallid shale BTW, can you double check is aiohttp (it's reported on opening the session and c...

...
2025-05-31 21:50:26.096 DEBUG (MainThread) [aioamazondevices] Closing HTTP session (aiohttp)```
It is.

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 7:59 PM

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Thx!

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Hopefully some one else from a differnt country than DE and IT will test and report back

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if you want you can download the latest script: https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/pull/207

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 8:23 PM

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Installing the library to test:
pip install "git+https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices.git@chemelli74-cookies#aioamazondevices==3.0.2"
Test script:
https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/blob/main/library_test.py
The parameters for the test script:
https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices?tab=readme-ov-file#test

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I created a library_test.json like this one:

  "country": "DE",
  "email": "name@mail.com",
  "password": "secretpassword",
  "single_device_name": "Name of an Echo device",
  "login_data_file": "out/login_data.json",
  "save_raw_data": "True"
}```
and ran the test script with the parameters:
`python library_test.py --configfile library_test.json --otp_code 123456`
(The OTP code is only needed on the first run).

plucky sentinel May 31, 2025, 9:10 PM

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pallid shale <@372843932096397333> what about you ? Can you test, so if we are 3 from 3 diffe...

what am I testing now?

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 9:12 PM

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If the aiohttp version is working in your region.

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So far we only checked DE and IT.

lunar galleon May 31, 2025, 9:24 PM

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Does @wraith vessel use alexa?

plucky sentinel May 31, 2025, 9:50 PM

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untold spindle If the aiohttp version is working in your region.

Guessing I need to download the lib itself?

untold spindle May 31, 2025, 9:51 PM

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plucky sentinel Guessing I need to download the lib itself?

#1365598382499958854 message

plucky sentinel May 31, 2025, 9:51 PM

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so yes, DL the lib

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I'll just run it through vscode

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NOT TODAY THO

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dinner time 😎

clear cliff May 31, 2025, 10:38 PM

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pallid shale the more the better

3.0.2 as above:

📎 message.txt

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 11:01 PM

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Did you install applying the PR ?

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Which country ?

clear cliff May 31, 2025, 11:06 PM

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Just tried pulling the request made to https://www.amazon.co.uk/ap/signin?... when using the browser amazon login flow and the difference it uses for the login flow on the site is assoc_handle=gbflex. Tried hardcoding this on the latest main commit in oauth_params and it appears to get further when running library_test.py. Get a 200 for that initial /ap/signin request, but then get a

2025-06-01 00:03:08.720 WARNING (MainThread) [aioamazondevices] Saving data to out\ap-signin_7.html
2025-06-01 00:03:08.736 DEBUG (MainThread) [aioamazondevices] Cannot find "auth-mfa-otpcode" in html source [https://www.amazon.co.uk/ap/signin/xxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx]

The HTML page it returns looks like this (under this is my email with a password prompt. I have a special character in my password if that means anything at all

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UK

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Or GB country code wise

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Oh I got my email wrong lol, so if I fix that I get way further using assoc_handle=gbflex

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Now get an error here:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\atims\repos\aioamazondevices\library_test.py", line 280, in <module>
    asyncio.run(main())
    ~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Users\atims\AppData\Roaming\uv\python\cpython-3.13.3-windows-x86_64-none\Lib\asyncio\runners.py", line 195, in run
    return runner.run(main)
           ~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^
  File "C:\Users\atims\AppData\Roaming\uv\python\cpython-3.13.3-windows-x86_64-none\Lib\asyncio\runners.py", line 118, in run
    return self._loop.run_until_complete(task)
           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^
  File "C:\Users\atims\AppData\Roaming\uv\python\cpython-3.13.3-windows-x86_64-none\Lib\asyncio\base_events.py", line 719, in run_until_complete
    return future.result()
           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^
  File "C:\Users\atims\repos\aioamazondevices\library_test.py", line 183, in main
    devices = await api.get_devices_data()
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Users\atims\repos\aioamazondevices\.venv\Lib\site-packages\aioamazondevices\api.py", line 577, in get_devices_data
    do_not_disturb_node = device[NODE_DO_NOT_DISTURB]
                          ~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
KeyError: 'doNotDisturbDeviceStatusList'

clear cliff May 31, 2025, 11:27 PM

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Just opened my alexa app and its a mess, so this is probably unrelated. Apparently everything just sticks around even if unavaliable for months

pallid shale May 31, 2025, 11:57 PM

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The “flex” assoc is used when browsing in all languages but won’t work for auth session.
You should try using the same as for us

wraith vessel Jun 1, 2025, 6:21 AM

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lunar galleon Does <@1046396149109620786> use alexa?

No, sorry. No Amazon devices in the house

untold spindle Jun 1, 2025, 8:56 AM

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#beta message

pallid shale Jun 1, 2025, 9:40 AM

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@clear cliff let me know when you are available for digging into it

rotund flax Jun 1, 2025, 10:38 AM

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I submitted a pr in your repo for launching skills as well

pallid shale Jun 1, 2025, 11:00 AM

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are you sure you opened it on aioamazondevices repo ?

rotund flax Jun 1, 2025, 11:06 AM

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https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/pull/209

GitHub

Add ability to launch skills by AzonInc · Pull Request #209 · che...

This adds the ability to launch skills

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I think so

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These are the Sonos Devices btw (both are the same speaker)

📎 message.txt

pallid shale Jun 1, 2025, 11:10 AM

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So those are correctly shown by the integration as they are supported

rotund flax Jun 1, 2025, 11:11 AM

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the sonos speakers don't have BT, only the newer models

pallid shale Jun 1, 2025, 11:13 AM

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ic

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will check if there is a capability to filter binary sensor creation

rotund flax Jun 1, 2025, 11:56 AM

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This also applies to the Alexa Companion Windows App:

'4A18BFF7D5939CB4625B0D300B433A9D': AmazonDevice(
  account_name='Florian PC',
  capabilities=['DEEZER', 'TUNE_IN', 'AUDIO_PLAYER', 'APPLE_MUSIC', 'I_HEART_RADIO', 'VOLUME_SETTING', 'CHANGE_NAME', 'REMINDERS', 'TIMERS_ALARMS_NOTIFICATIONS_VOLUME', 'ADAPTIVE_LISTENING', 'FLASH_BRIEFING', 'KINDLE_BOOKS', 'AMAZON_MUSIC', 'DISPLAY_BRIGHTNESS_ADJUST', 'SIRIUSXM', 'MUSIC_SKILL', 'SLEEP', 'DREAM_TRAINING', 'SUPPORTS_CONNECTED_HOME_CLOUD_ONLY', 'TIMERS_AND_ALARMS', 'DEREGISTER_DEVICE', 'EARCONS', 'SET_LOCALE', 'SOUND_SETTINGS', 'PERSISTENT_CONNECTION', 'TIDAL', 'AUDIBLE', 'MICROPHONE'],
  device_family='REAVER',
  device_type='A1RTAM01W29CUP',
  device_owner_customer_id='A2V9S9YNS6348M',
  device_cluster_members=['4A18BFF7D5939CB4625B0D300B433A9D'],
  online=True,
  serial_number='4A18BFF7D5939CB4625B0D300B433A9D',
  software_version='2103540',
  do_not_disturb=False,
  response_style='CONCISE',
  bluetooth_state=False
),

pallid shale Jun 1, 2025, 1:23 PM

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Does it make sense to have it in the integration ? IMHO it would be better to filter it out

lunar galleon Jun 1, 2025, 3:55 PM

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But does it work

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Or does it falsely show capabilities it doesn't have

pallid shale Jun 1, 2025, 4:03 PM

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Don't have it installed to confirm

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This remind me that we should also check for "online=True" before trying to send a message or perform an action

lunar galleon Jun 1, 2025, 4:57 PM

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pallid shale This remind me that we should also check for "online=True" before trying to send...

when its off all entities are unavailable

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@pallid shale is the list of supported devices just what we have test or all devices that currently are supported?

pallid shale Jun 1, 2025, 5:55 PM

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those that are actively reported in the log from the aioamazondevices

lunar galleon Jun 1, 2025, 5:57 PM

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because the list in the docs only mention 2

pallid shale Jun 1, 2025, 5:57 PM

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can you please review the 2 ready PRs ?

lunar galleon Jun 1, 2025, 5:58 PM

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which one

pallid shale Jun 1, 2025, 5:58 PM

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lunar galleon because the list in the docs only mention 2

2 families of devices, not 2 devices

lunar galleon Jun 1, 2025, 5:58 PM

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lunar galleon because the list in the docs only mention 2

I am asking this because one of the creators is asking this

pallid shale Jun 1, 2025, 5:59 PM

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lunar galleon which one

lunar galleon Jun 1, 2025, 5:59 PM

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yes, hence I am asking, what about the rest?

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Aren't they tested or don't they provide anything

pallid shale Jun 1, 2025, 6:01 PM

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mainly not tested; I expect some to provide usefull features some not

lunar galleon Jun 1, 2025, 6:05 PM

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can we then expand the list with the information we have now

pallid shale Jun 1, 2025, 6:46 PM

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beside the fact that the device is on not in the list, if it has the capabilities then it works

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it's just not diplayed nicely

lunar galleon Jun 1, 2025, 6:53 PM

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pallid shale beside the fact that the device is on not in the list, if it has the capabilitie...

But can we then expand the list? Then we can have the creators put out the correct info

pallid shale Jun 1, 2025, 8:32 PM

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Didn’t get your point

lunar galleon Jun 1, 2025, 9:58 PM

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well, the docs currently only show 2 device types

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while I think we support more

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and there are people who make content consumed by end users

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and they want correct information

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so I am looking if we can expand that list

pallid shale Jun 2, 2025, 10:55 AM

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Yeah, docs need a bit of love. Will take care of that today

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I also would like to know if we want to swap to aiohttp now that it works, at least for a couple of people

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I spoke with Nick about the issues I found while developping and trying to swap out from httpx; he was awesome as always and has already fixed the most important of the two, releasing an rc version of the library.

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So the question is: do we want to swap to aiohttp even if few people tested the PR in aioamazondevices ?

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https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/145821 this is the only open issue for amazon devices and will be fixed by the swap

pallid shale Jun 2, 2025, 11:49 AM

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lunar galleon so I am looking if we can expand that list

https://github.com/home-assistant/home-assistant.io/pull/39357

rotund flax Jun 3, 2025, 3:27 PM

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Any thoughts on my last comment there?
https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/pull/209

pallid shale Jun 3, 2025, 4:59 PM

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I think we can create a list of well-known skills and the last item of the list would be "Custom".
If you select it then you have a text field that allow you to specify the full skill name

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So will have the best of both 😉

plucky sentinel Jun 4, 2025, 11:32 AM

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I just realized I forgot to check the aiohttp version of this

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Sorry!

clear cliff Jun 4, 2025, 12:29 PM

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Updated to the latest beta and am now able to finish the config flow and my devices show up. Thanks for the fixes 👍

pallid shale Jun 4, 2025, 3:46 PM

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plucky sentinel I just realized I forgot to check the aiohttp version of this

No worry just install b5 and report back

pallid shale Jun 4, 2025, 3:46 PM

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clear cliff Updated to the latest beta and am now able to finish the config flow and my devi...

Thx for testing !

pallid shale Jun 4, 2025, 3:47 PM

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pallid shale I think we can create a list of well-known skills and the last item of the list ...

What you think @rotund flax ?

rotund flax Jun 4, 2025, 3:54 PM

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Sounds good, but wouldn't it be better to maintain this within the HA integration?

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And how do we decide which skills are common and working as well? Because it seems random which skills can be launched and which not

pallid shale Jun 4, 2025, 4:00 PM

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I think we should create a list with a boolean property “supported”

rotund flax Jun 4, 2025, 6:15 PM

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Shouldnt be included at all when its not supported, should it?

pallid shale Jun 4, 2025, 6:30 PM

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exactly, if we know it's not supported we add it to the list as supported=false so we filter that out from the list and if you use it from custom we can raise a NotSupported error 😉

rotund flax Jun 4, 2025, 6:33 PM

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Ahhh gotcha, good idea

pallid shale Jun 5, 2025, 11:02 PM

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Found also a few additional sensors to expose:

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📎 message.txt

rigid sphinx Jun 5, 2025, 11:09 PM

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someone the other day was talking about a home/away state which i dont think is attached to the device but instead its a alexa skill of some sort. they were complaining that it wasn't exposed with AMP. i told them that new integration is coming but that kind of thing might just not be exposable no idea if you have seen anything related to that?

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#1376329927120523366 - i was and still am pretty sure that its not device related so probably out of scope. but something to keep an eye out for i guess

pallid shale Jun 6, 2025, 2:28 PM

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Ask them if the Alexa App can set this on the device; if so it should be douable by the integration, if it's not in the app but it's a skill or something else then it won't.

pallid shale Jun 7, 2025, 11:55 AM

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Hi all, I would like to finally drop HTTPX support: https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/pull/221

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but before proceeding would be ncie to know how many of those 169 integration users are on b5

lunar galleon Jun 7, 2025, 12:29 PM

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why?

pallid shale Jun 7, 2025, 1:22 PM

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To know if the main part of them is using aiohttp

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Which the library version with b5 uses

lunar galleon Jun 7, 2025, 1:57 PM

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No way to know that

pallid shale Jun 7, 2025, 2:17 PM

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ic, so what you suggest ? Wait or proceed with the cleanup ?

pallid shale Jun 7, 2025, 4:15 PM

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First 2 additional sensors from Echos:

sensors=[AmazonDeviceSensor(name='temperature', value=27.0, scale='CELSIUS'), AmazonDeviceSensor(name='illuminance', value=8, scale=None)])}

lunar galleon Jun 7, 2025, 4:20 PM

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pallid shale ic, so what you suggest ? Wait or proceed with the cleanup ?

Just do it

pallid shale Jun 7, 2025, 4:28 PM

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Waiting for https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/145645 to be approved and then I'll work adding above sensors

pallid shale Jun 8, 2025, 4:40 PM

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Can we consider https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/146333 a bugfix ? Currently it shows "Amazon" also for non Amazon devices

lunar galleon Jun 8, 2025, 5:02 PM

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I think so

lunar galleon Jun 10, 2025, 5:37 PM

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Okay, shall we consider renaming to Alexa Device?

pallid shale Jun 10, 2025, 5:38 PM

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I don’t think is a good name honestly; if any “Amazon Linked Devices”

lunar galleon Jun 10, 2025, 5:39 PM

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Meh, not a big fan of that one as

you need to explain what "linked" means
Kindle also is a device you link to amazon

untold spindle Jun 10, 2025, 5:41 PM

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Amazon Alexa Devices?

tall vessel Jun 10, 2025, 6:46 PM

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I'm thinking if we should drop „Amazon“. Yes it’s „Amazon Alexa“, but „Amazon Alexa Devices“ could be taken to implicate only Amazon's devices specifically

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Are supported

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Which is not true

lunar galleon Jun 11, 2025, 3:23 PM

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@pallid shale are we going for a domain change?

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If so we need a little more work

pallid shale Jun 11, 2025, 3:24 PM

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I would say that everything should be aligned as it’s new and we have no constrain to do a clean job

lunar galleon Jun 11, 2025, 3:24 PM

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aight

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are you behind a PC?

pallid shale Jun 11, 2025, 3:24 PM

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Yup but only for 15min

lunar galleon Jun 11, 2025, 3:24 PM

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ah

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check

pallid shale Jun 11, 2025, 3:25 PM

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Then I have a work call and then I need to move by car

lunar galleon Jun 11, 2025, 3:25 PM

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i was wondering if you could open the docs PR

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but I will take care of that then

pallid shale Jun 11, 2025, 3:25 PM

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Sorry a little short on time right now 🥲

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Alexa devices

lunar galleon Jun 11, 2025, 3:26 PM

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no problemo

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I am now mostly happy we didnt merge the other PRs yet

pallid shale Jun 11, 2025, 4:02 PM

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Why? It was not more work

lunar galleon Jun 11, 2025, 4:06 PM

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well

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it was to now try to cherry pick the right changes on the beta

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that would be aweful if we had more PRs like new platforms

pallid shale Jun 11, 2025, 4:06 PM

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Ic

untold spindle Jun 11, 2025, 11:00 PM

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Has the "custom" notify entity to send commands to Alexa not been included in the integration, yet?

rotund flax Jun 11, 2025, 11:47 PM

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https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/145645

Still open

plucky sentinel Jun 12, 2025, 7:01 PM

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@pallid shale getting hit with a wave of issues on github

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https://tenor.com/view/snow-jon-snow-game-of-thrones-hypothermia-gif-2050521346495683023

Tenor

plucky sentinel Jun 13, 2025, 11:01 AM

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I'm assuming the custom commands didn't make the release?

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because many people are asking about it from the docs

pallid shale Jun 13, 2025, 11:21 AM

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Yeah not yet merged

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I have 3 PRs with new staff pending

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Hopefully they will be merged soon so I can proceed with other thing (too much pending changes are a hell to maintain) and next release will be full feature compared to AMP

plucky sentinel Jun 13, 2025, 12:12 PM

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pallid shale Hopefully they will be merged soon so I can proceed with other thing (too much p...

Yes, it's a pain in the ass

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dealing with it in template entities. It really holds back development speed

pallid shale Jun 13, 2025, 12:13 PM

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Exactly

junior crag Jun 13, 2025, 3:05 PM

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As Nabu Casa support, I want to strongly advocate for a name that reflects what the integration does and doesn't do. We get too many tickets about AMP as it is.

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Alexa Control? Alexa Speakers? Alexa Notify or Announce? Or is using "Alexa" as a reference too specific?

The majority of tickets are wondering why they don't get TTS functionality with a Nabu Casa sub, yet they also have AMP, and it all requires an elaborate explanation about media_players, tts, local media, custom integrations, etc.

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anyway, my 2 cents...which are EUR cents because we just got back from Ireland and I didn't spend all my coins!

lunar galleon Jun 13, 2025, 3:42 PM

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junior crag anyway, my 2 cents...which are EUR cents because we just got back from Ireland a...

Lmao

lunar galleon Jun 13, 2025, 3:43 PM

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junior crag As Nabu Casa support, I want to strongly advocate for a name that reflects what ...

But other integrations also don't have that in the name

pallid shale Jun 13, 2025, 7:22 PM

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870 users and just a small bunch of issues… not bad, really not bad

pallid shale Jun 13, 2025, 7:38 PM

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Something important to remember especially for forum moderators: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/146672#issuecomment-2971330718

untold spindle Jun 14, 2025, 10:10 AM

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@pallid shale Which of the files besides the api-phoenix.json do you need exactly? There are some containing login data in the out folder.

pallid shale Jun 14, 2025, 10:11 AM

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The 2 api-phoenix json

untold spindle Jun 14, 2025, 10:12 AM

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The test script just created one phoenix file before failing.

untold spindle Jun 14, 2025, 10:39 AM

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It just creates more of those phoenix files, if I run the script multiple times.

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C:\Program Files\Python312\Lib\site-packages\aioamazondevices\api.py:355: RuntimeWarning: coroutine 'AmazonEchoApi._ignore_ap_sigin_error' was never awaited
  if not self._ignore_ap_sigin_error(resp):
RuntimeWarning: Enable tracemalloc to get the object allocation traceback
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "D:\jorgw\Projekte\amazon\library_test.py", line 280, in <module>
    asyncio.run(main())
  File "C:\Program Files\Python312\Lib\asyncio\runners.py", line 195, in run
    return runner.run(main)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Program Files\Python312\Lib\asyncio\runners.py", line 118, in run
    return self._loop.run_until_complete(task)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Program Files\Python312\Lib\asyncio\base_events.py", line 691, in run_until_complete
    return future.result()
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "D:\jorgw\Projekte\amazon\library_test.py", line 183, in main
    devices = await api.get_devices_data()
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Program Files\Python312\Lib\site-packages\aioamazondevices\api.py", line 701, in get_devices_data
    devices_sensors = await self._get_sensors_states(entity_ids_list)
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Program Files\Python312\Lib\site-packages\aioamazondevices\api.py", line 562, in _get_sensors_states
    for sensors in json_data["deviceStates"]:
                   ~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not subscriptable
2025-06-14 12:46:41.072 ERROR (MainThread) [asyncio] Unclosed client session
client_session: <aiohttp.client.ClientSession object at 0x0000022D17FEE990>
2025-06-14 12:46:41.073 ERROR (MainThread) [asyncio] Unclosed connector
connections: ['deque([(<aiohttp.client_proto.ResponseHandler object at 0x0000022D18020350>, 6411.984)])']
connector: <aiohttp.connector.TCPConnector object at 0x0000022D16F475C0>

pallid shale Jun 14, 2025, 10:52 AM

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Yes indeed but if clean up the folder and then run once the script there will be just 2 of those

untold spindle Jun 14, 2025, 10:53 AM

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The screenshot I posted is the state of the script being run once. Just one file.

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Well, one containing "phoenix".

pallid shale Jun 14, 2025, 11:46 AM

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Ok we need to debug this more in depth together

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Can you fire up the aioamazondevices container in VScode by any chance ?

untold spindle Jun 14, 2025, 12:08 PM

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pallid shale Can you fire up the aioamazondevices container in VScode by any chance ?

I never used Studio Code for anything else than HA configuration.

untold spindle Jun 14, 2025, 1:02 PM

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Not sure if I got it fully running.
It stopped with an error in Studio Code.

Installing the current project: aioamazondevices (3.1.2)
An error has occurred: FatalError: git failed. Is it installed, and are you in a Git repository directory?
Check the log at /home/vscode/.cache/pre-commit/pre-commit.log
[33159 ms] postCreateCommand from devcontainer.json failed with exit code 1. Skipping any further user-provided commands.

pallid shale Jun 14, 2025, 2:06 PM

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Just did a fresh install and it worked flowlessly

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Basically yuou should go with https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/development_environment and just use aioamazondevices repo instead of core

untold spindle Jun 14, 2025, 3:13 PM

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Sorry, on my computer I cannot get it running.

pallid shale Jun 14, 2025, 3:56 PM

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😦

untold spindle Jun 14, 2025, 3:57 PM

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It is just throwing lots of errors.

pallid shale Jun 14, 2025, 3:58 PM

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Even with other repo ?

untold spindle Jun 14, 2025, 3:59 PM

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I only got it (potentially) working by downloading your repo and using that to create a container. It also threw an error, but at least it got me into the container environment.

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We can try that one. Don't know what exactly you need.

pallid shale Jun 15, 2025, 9:53 AM

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Nice

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I want to save json_data before parsing so that we can see what's missing/different in your scenario

untold spindle Jun 15, 2025, 9:57 AM

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I transferred the login data to the container. So if you have some time, we can try it.

pallid shale Jun 16, 2025, 7:37 AM

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Hi, sorry was busy during the WE

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I also noticed that I was so concetrated in making aiohttp work, that I badly managed exceptions

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Fix on the way: https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/pull/276

steep grove Jun 17, 2025, 10:55 AM

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@pallid shale Hi, I dont know if you have seen my comment on your commit, but the URI_SIGNIN is wrong on the new definition : https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/pull/285/files#diff-ac6825022c440fec9556aa86bf1641797dff08b4822d989d06eb7747114855fbR76

GitHub

fix: ignore signin logic by chemelli74 · Pull Request #285 · che...

pallid shale Jun 17, 2025, 10:56 AM

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Hi

pallid shale Jun 17, 2025, 8:21 PM

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@steep grove, building v3.1.10, please once ready test and report back

steep grove Jun 17, 2025, 8:38 PM

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pallid shale <@432965154821505025>, building v3.1.10, please once ready test and report back

login worked fine on command line, still with the error of doNotDisturb, that does not appear when I run the test program again with the login data saved.

File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/site-packages/aioamazondevices/api.py", line 728, in get_devices_data
do_not_disturb_node = device[NODE_DO_NOT_DISTURB]
~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
KeyError: 'doNotDisturbDeviceStatusList'

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On HA I'm getting 503 which gives me impression that something is different on HA environment, maybe different headers that gives the error from amazon servers.

pallid shale Jun 17, 2025, 8:42 PM

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https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/147055

steep grove Jun 17, 2025, 8:44 PM

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pallid shale <https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/147055>

I changed the requirements files and did the upgrade inside the container. The correct version was used but something that I did not understand is different and giving 503 response from amazon. I will try to put more debug prints again tomorrow to try to see differences between sent data.

steep grove Jun 17, 2025, 10:01 PM

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Found one thing, if I use curl or wget with default user agent to get https://www.amazon.com I got same 503 response and information that came from cloudfare, if I change the user-agent if gives me the 200 response. Apparently something on the request is really making cloudfare/amazon give the 503 response. I will do more tests tomorrow.

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pallid shale Jun 17, 2025, 11:05 PM

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We fixed the agent in the latest 3.1.10 to be exactly the same as Alexa Mobile App

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if you get the error only on HA, plaese remove integration config, restart HA and try again after updating manifest.json in order to use 3.1.10

steep grove Jun 18, 2025, 10:15 AM

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pallid shale if you get the error only on HA, plaese remove integration config, restart HA an...

Just found that error is repeatable on command line inside the HA container. Then not exactly related to User-agent. will try to debug more and change headers to see what is different between environments. But as my tests with CURL and WGET show that they give 503 based on request something probably is going different between environments.

pallid shale Jun 18, 2025, 10:19 AM

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That doesn't make really sense as the headers and all the stuff of the call are hardcoded by the library, not by HA

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Only option is you are using a old version of the library inside HA compared to the one used from command line testing

steep grove Jun 18, 2025, 10:59 AM

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pallid shale Only option is you are using a old version of the library inside HA compared to ...

its the same version. I have run the pip upgrade, checked the code and put prints. added call to request http://www.amazon.com.br failed with 503, changing user-agent to standard chrome that request passed but not the login. I have also checked the aiohttp that is the same version.

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pallid shale Jun 18, 2025, 11:06 AM

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Can you proxy Alexa app ? We need to check the specific parameters for Brazil

steep grove Jun 18, 2025, 11:37 AM

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pallid shale Can you proxy Alexa app ? We need to check the specific parameters for Brazil

did not have the environment for that. have to install and test .

But it very strange that same code works on different container, something else is different that I did not see. I have tested both forcing IPV4 only, then is not the case of V4/V6. I have forced all other pip dependencies for same version that are inside the HA container.

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And also it was giving the 404 before and now only 503.

tall vessel Jun 18, 2025, 11:47 AM

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pallid shale That doesn't make really sense as the headers and all the stuff of the call are ...

might be aiohttp though

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did you see the recent change regarding the cookie_jar in aiohttp

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maybe they don't like getting other cookies

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and/or reusing the client and you need to use your own one instead of the shared ClientSession

pallid shale Jun 18, 2025, 12:52 PM

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But same library version has the same behavior 😉
And yes I know about the cookie change as I dealed about it with Nick

tall vessel Jun 18, 2025, 1:04 PM

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ah then maybe I just misunderstood - just saw "different behaviour in HA and lib" and my mind jumped to the session

steep grove Jun 18, 2025, 2:41 PM

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got again some 404 but not continuing and printing () for history on 404

    # Endpoint URI_SIGNIN replies with error 404
    _LOGGER.debug(f"history = {response.history}")

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as i'm getting same error from command line I understant that there is no shared ClientSession, or aiohttp can share clients between two different process ?

steep grove Jun 18, 2025, 3:05 PM

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I'm sure now that I'm getting any kind of web firewall. after more tests I only get 503 again. I will leave it and test again tomorrow. But that response.history behaviour is related to the aiohttp that is not returning the url used every time.

pallid shale Jun 18, 2025, 6:07 PM

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IF you think to have found a issue with aiohttp, please open a issue on its repo

steep grove Jun 18, 2025, 6:34 PM

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pallid shale IF you think to have found a issue with aiohttp, please open a issue on its repo

I will try to create a small code to try to reproduce.

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@pallid shale appear that empty history is the correct case, it will only have data when redirected as I understand from doc

https://docs.aiohttp.org/en/stable/client_reference.html#aiohttp.ClientResponse.history

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ClientResponse also have the URL : https://docs.aiohttp.org/en/stable/client_reference.html#aiohttp.ClientResponse.url

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I understand now that the check should try first to use response.url like before and when there is a history also check for the first one as its done now.

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Apparently amazon sometimes does a single response and sometimes a redirect.

pallid shale Jun 18, 2025, 6:51 PM

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signin if working always ridirect

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if it doesn't is because some parameters are wrong

pallid shale Jun 18, 2025, 6:51 PM

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steep grove Apparently amazon sometimes does a single response and sometimes a redirect.

Nope, 100% of working login has a redirect

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you can verify by inspecting Alexa Mobile App via proxy

rotund flax Jun 19, 2025, 5:38 PM

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Would it be possible to add support for the shopping/todo list as a todo entity
The nodered module is able to work with the lists : https://github.com/Apollon77/alexa-remote/blob/c5708e65d1654464fd2db1d3d846b95da60ce470/alexa-remote.js#L1351

And is there any plan on implementing the websocket connection to handle the events in realtime?

pallid shale Jun 19, 2025, 10:24 PM

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@rotund flax Will look into the first thing as soon as the pending PRs are merged 😉

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Don’t want to open thousands of things

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About the second question, yes once everything else is accepted and merged

pallid shale Jun 24, 2025, 7:49 PM

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Evening

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I would like to ask for a wide test of https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/pull/265

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I added the key I saw, I for sure missed some

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so if someone can check would be amazing

steep grove Jun 26, 2025, 10:26 AM

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pallid shale I would like to ask for a wide test of <https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazond...

is ther a published version with this or We have to get the patch and apply ?

pallid shale Jun 26, 2025, 10:39 AM

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you can install 3.1.19, which is part of the beta btw

steep grove Jun 26, 2025, 10:44 AM

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I already made some tests with this version, just did not checked this data, I think that email should be redacted also on the json data. Itś being changed on the place that indicates logging but not inside the json contents .

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I dont know what is the lifetime of session ids, if they are long maybe more data should be redacted

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About my problem with 503 I have some progress, I have tested today with this 3.1.19 and I can reproduce consistently, but cant find the exactly root cause.

pallid shale Jun 26, 2025, 10:50 AM

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yeah we alrady found a few placed I missed

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and a couple of fields as well

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going to wrap up a PR in the afternoon

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but at least it's a start 😉

steep grove Jun 26, 2025, 10:50 AM

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pallid shale but at least it's a start 😉

will be easier to share logs in public without personal data.

pallid shale Jun 26, 2025, 10:50 AM

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steep grove About my problem with 503 I have some progress, I have tested today with this 3....

Full debug log please, you can share in PM

pallid shale Jun 26, 2025, 10:51 AM

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steep grove will be easier to share logs in public without personal data.

indeed

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I have a questions about countries that don't have a amazon domain and are redirected to amazon.com.
Should we add them all to https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/blob/main/src/aioamazondevices/const.py#L28 or should we filter them out from the Country selection forcing users to use "US" like amazon does ?

steep grove Jun 26, 2025, 11:29 AM

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pallid shale I would like to ask for a wide test of <https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazond...

@pallid shale just checked that in the logs I have sent to you the addresses are not redacted, check for deviceAddress and deviceAddressModel they should be redacted,

rich juniper Jun 28, 2025, 12:07 PM

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I've cleaned up the issues at the documentation issue tracker. To summarize: There are still some issues with Brazil and Chile specific accounts. I've directed them to the core issue tracker so hopefully that moves forward.

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Overall, people are happy with it becoming part of core, so keep up the great work being done on this. 🙂

pallid shale Jun 29, 2025, 11:15 AM

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Morning everyone, I have stil l4 things in my todo list:

fix the retry for 429 like Alexa docs says => PR draft but seems to cause more trouble than what it fix
custom action => PR draft, need advice on the right way to go
alarm/time/schedules => need to open an architecture discussion for the way to go ?
HTTP2 websocket for Media Player management

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Expecially for n° 2 and n° 3 I need help for taking a decision

lunar galleon Jun 29, 2025, 12:27 PM

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2 is that about the list of devices?

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And for 3 i think we should find a way how we could put alarms and timers into an entity platform in a way together with the other integrations and their abilities

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As in, that takes effort, but trying to put alarms and timers and whatnot in the current entities sounds very hacky

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As in, I'm happy to look at quick wins so it at least becomes a bit usable, but I would be opposed to putting the whole functionality in what we have today as that effort would be better put in a solution that could benefit all integrations

pallid shale Jun 29, 2025, 3:20 PM

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2 is about selector

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device or entity id ?

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how does the PR code looks https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/145645 ? Fine or need tweak ?

pallid shale Jun 29, 2025, 3:23 PM

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lunar galleon As in, I'm happy to look at quick wins so it at least becomes a bit usable, but ...

Only idea I have for a quick win is a sensor with timestamp value that shows only the next firing timer/alarm/schedule per each device. And if none => not available

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Once we have a better solution ,then we can move there

latent anchor Jun 30, 2025, 7:20 AM

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pallid shale Morning everyone, I have stil l4 things in my todo list: - fix the retry for 429...

Please let us know if/when we can test a fix for #1 - looking forward to it.

pallid shale Jun 30, 2025, 7:54 AM

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There is a draft PR for it: https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/pull/309

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seems to block login for some somehow, but cannot figure out why 😒

pallid shale Jun 30, 2025, 10:59 AM

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Another to test please:
https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/pull/335

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This will block all errors from wrong selected country

lunar galleon Jun 30, 2025, 11:04 AM

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pallid shale Only idea I have for a quick win is a sensor with timestamp value that shows onl...

Right but I'm wondering how useful it is as one moment it will show the next schedule, then it will show your timer, and when that's done it will show your schedule again

pallid shale Jun 30, 2025, 11:11 AM

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nope, i was thinking about 3 entities: next alarm, next schedule, next timer

pallid shale Jul 1, 2025, 6:46 AM

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Anyone that can help testing PR #335 and #309 please ?

latent anchor Jul 1, 2025, 11:27 AM

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I can give it a shot, with a bit of direction on how to apply them

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I was able to add the integration again now, but still failing, so it looks like I can reproduce the issue. Yesterday, I wasn't even able to activate the integration at all

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Yeah, I see 429 in the logs.

pallid shale Jul 1, 2025, 11:30 AM

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Is for the phoenix endpoint right ?

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If so fix should be in #338

latent anchor Jul 1, 2025, 11:32 AM

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yes, phoenix

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let me see if I can figure this out - one sec

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Where can I get the manifest.json?

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found it

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ah, I guess the changes are in a library, not the main integration?

latent anchor Jul 1, 2025, 12:13 PM

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Oh man, what a headache 🙂 Is there an easy way to test this without enabled root access to the container? @pallid shale

pallid shale Jul 1, 2025, 12:17 PM

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latent anchor ah, I guess the changes are in a library, not the main integration?

Correct

pallid shale Jul 1, 2025, 12:18 PM

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latent anchor Oh man, what a headache 🙂 Is there an easy way to test this without enabled r...

Not that know

latent anchor Jul 1, 2025, 12:47 PM

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I have a few different docker folders - any idea how to determine which one is active?

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this is kinda nuts 😄

latent anchor Jul 1, 2025, 2:00 PM

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might have found a better way to test

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@pallid shale I think I am testing the branch for the phoenix fix, but it doesn't seem to work. Not sure how I can confirm 100% that I am on the correct branch of the library

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I am using this method:
https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/creating_integration_manifest/#custom-requirements-during-development--testing

Integration manifest | Home Assistant Developer Docs

Every integration has a manifest file to specify its basic information. This file is stored as manifest.json in your integration directory. It is required to add such a file.

pallid shale Jul 1, 2025, 2:09 PM

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latent anchor <@640857232853958676> I think I am testing the branch for the phoenix fix, but i...

debug log would hopefully help

latent anchor Jul 1, 2025, 2:15 PM

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sent

latent anchor Jul 2, 2025, 8:13 PM

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@pallid shale Still having issues, even on 2025.7. Not sure what to do

pallid shale Jul 2, 2025, 8:41 PM

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As first thing, updated debug log

latent anchor Jul 2, 2025, 9:26 PM

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sent in DM

plucky sentinel Jul 3, 2025, 11:35 AM

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Just was able to test the latest release, seems like many of the previous issues are gone, nice job @pallid shale and helpers

pallid shale Jul 3, 2025, 11:50 AM

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I'm overwhelmed by requests about timers and alarms

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95% of people will be able to get rid of AMP if we add those

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how can we progress on that task ?

plucky sentinel Jul 3, 2025, 11:57 AM

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with alarms, you can make timestamp sensors

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but you won't have snooze, etc

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nore do they have an alarming state, etc

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oh yeah, this goes back to the previous discussion

untold spindle Jul 3, 2025, 12:02 PM

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Wouldn't a first workaround be the command notify entity, so that they can set, deactivate and snooze the alarms or timers by "voice"?

plucky sentinel Jul 3, 2025, 12:07 PM

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Well, IIRC there were discussions about how to handle this in the past

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the problem is, if we go entity route, there will be an n number of entities with no official clean way of doing things

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in regards to other entities, we should have something that is similiar to a calendar or forecast that has specific triggers, conditions, and actions

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At this point, someone basically needs to write up a proposal in arch discussions, then enact the plan

pallid shale Jul 3, 2025, 12:37 PM

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@plucky sentinel do you mind helping writing a template for the "last_called" ?

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Like AMP did

plucky sentinel Jul 3, 2025, 12:38 PM

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What do you mean?

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a template entity to get last_called?

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something like this?

{% set target = 'speak' %}
{% set last_notify = integration_entities('alexa_devices') | select('match', '^notify') | select('search', target ~ '$') | select('has_value') | expand | sort(attribute='state', reverse=True) | first | default %}
{{ last_notify.name }}

pallid shale Jul 3, 2025, 2:09 PM

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Wow interesting, can you check both speak and announce ?

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Then I think we should add it to docs

plucky sentinel Jul 3, 2025, 2:12 PM

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yah

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{% set last_notify = integration_entities('alexa_devices') | select('match', '^notify') | select('search', '(speak|announce)$') | select('has_value') | expand | sort(attribute='state', reverse=True) | first | default %}
{{ last_notify.name }}

pallid shale Jul 3, 2025, 2:16 PM

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The only bad thing is that part of it is localized

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I need to use (parla|annuncia)$

plucky sentinel Jul 3, 2025, 2:19 PM

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son of a bitch

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oh

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wait

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just this

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{% set last_notify = integration_entities('alexa_devices') | select('match', '^notify') | select('has_value') | expand | sort(attribute='state', reverse=True) | first | default %}
{{ last_notify.name }}

pallid shale Jul 3, 2025, 4:02 PM

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Nice, thx

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Asking user from AMP to tell me if this is enough for replacing the old "last_used" sensor or not

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I'm not using it and I don't know exactly when it's updated

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if only from HA or also from voice

plucky sentinel Jul 3, 2025, 4:05 PM

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They all want the one that's polled

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i.e. if a user outside HA says "Alexa, turn on xyz", HA will reflect that

pallid shale Jul 3, 2025, 4:26 PM

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I suspected it

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let's first add HTTP2 websocket then and once we have real time we will see how to add this

brazen salmon Jul 9, 2025, 9:09 PM

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one of my main goals is to get all my automations our of Alexa and into home assistant, but I've tried and tried and no matter what I can't tell my echo show to show the front door ring camera on motion or ding. I would also like to send a snapshot on that trigger to certain cell phones, but that's step 2...

untold spindle Jul 9, 2025, 9:10 PM

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Not implemented in the current HA version, yet.

brazen salmon Jul 9, 2025, 9:10 PM

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yeah

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the frustrating part is that it's simple af to set up in Alexa, and out of reach of HA

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do they have to negotiate these things with ring or alexa(amazon), "hey, give us access please, you benefit from giving us this access by broadening your audience/reach"?

lunar galleon Jul 9, 2025, 9:14 PM

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brazen salmon the frustrating part is that it's simple af to set up in Alexa, and out of reach...

Sparkles Ecosystems

brazen salmon Jul 9, 2025, 9:14 PM

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yeah

lunar galleon Jul 9, 2025, 9:15 PM

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like, if they gave us access to this, they would have lost you

brazen salmon Jul 9, 2025, 9:16 PM

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if they don't they will lose more bc that turns people off/sends them elsewhere

lunar galleon Jul 9, 2025, 9:17 PM

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so they lose any way

brazen salmon Jul 9, 2025, 9:17 PM

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and, they're never getting a paid subscription from me anyway

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but if they broaden the reach/open up, more people would be like "I can use ring now, they're HA friendly"

lunar galleon Jul 9, 2025, 9:18 PM

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but they don't

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because they are not HA friendly

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or well, they probably know we exist and they tolerate us

brazen salmon Jul 9, 2025, 9:19 PM

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that makes people like us go "once bitten, twice shy" and go elsewhere(ditch ring).
If I knew I was going to get into HA, I would have told my brother "don't go Ring cams, you can't do anything but view it w/o a subscription"

brazen salmon Jul 9, 2025, 9:41 PM

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They should make an add-on or integration that rides off the ring integration and can take a snapshot or record like 15-30 seconds of vid

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@lunar galleon in the dashboard, both in chrome and on my iphone, there is a thing on the bottom right corner of the ring popup that says "download snapshot", too bad there's not a way to automate that, or trigger that automatically given a condition. It's hypertext or something when you open the camera on the dashboard @pallid shale

pallid shale Jul 13, 2025, 6:38 PM

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Hi

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I have a couple of PRs that I would like a few more people to test before merging:

pallid shale Jul 21, 2025, 7:56 AM

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Hi guys

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I started adding Server-Send-Events via HTTP2: https://github.com/chemelli74/aioamazondevices/pull/389

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Unfortunately I get only the first directive and nothing else

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Anyone can help checking the code ?

#Alexa devices