Are there HA module to start Zigbee coordinator in HA?
Then devices like below as routers to Zigbee Coordinator in HA?
https://zigbeesmart.co.uk/products/zigbee-lan-poe-coordinator-smlight-slzb-06m
#HA as Zigbee Coordinator (for Zigbee routers)
wintry raven
sly patio
Rephrase the question, perhaps? Both Z2M and ZHA allow HA to use a Zigbee coordinator to establish and communicate over a Zigbee mesh.
HA is just software. It has no radio to communicate via Zigbee. That's what the coordinator does
wintry raven
As I understand slzb-06m can be coordinator or router (to coordinator). Can I make all slzb-06m as router to HA which will be coordinator? If yes, then which module / integration / addon I need to use to run HA as coordinator?
ah I was hoping I can make HA Zgibee coordinator through ethernet and use slzb-06m as Zigbee routers.
so I have to choose one of slzb-06m as coordinator and others as router? I don't have an option to choose HA as coordinator without dongle.
Correct?
wintry raven
I know, but coordinator is software too, so HA could run plugin coordinator and communicate through ethernet with Zigbee routers.
technically it is possible, but I understand if nobody did it 🙂
wintry raven
to make it clear: there is no plugin to make HA Zigbee coordinator without dongle? is it correct?
wintry raven
thank you, all what I needed 🙂
hmm side question then:
Do slzb-06m send data from slzb-06m router to slzb-06m cooridnator trhough ethernet or Zigbee?
If not use ethernet, then hmm. Should I set coordinator on each assuming they will have poor range between each other?
so 0 routers and Nx coordinators slzb-06m integrated with HA through ethernet.
sly patio
Zigbee is a wireless protocol
There could be no LAN at all and it would still work
You can only have one coordinator in a Zigbee network. Routers route the signal to other devices where needed
wintry raven
ok, but this is not my case.
in my case I have LAN and I assume firsty slzb-06m will have poor range to second slzb-06m.
So because I have LAN I don't care about repeating Zigbee signal.
I want it go to slzb-06m and to LAN to HA
In my case: should I make each slzb-06m as coordinator?
trying to repeat Zigbee signal is even less efficient, than make it directly to LAN from slzb-06m
wintry raven
I understand Zigbee slzb-06m can be set as router to 1 coordinator, but it doesn't make sense in my case to have any router.
actually it is disadvantage vs slzb-06m coordinator <-> LAN <-> HA
because LAN will be always better, than slzb-06m <-> slzb-06m with poor signal
asking in other way: any real disadvantage to have multiple slzb-06m coordinators which will lap a little over each other range?
wintry raven
I suggest reading up a bit on how Zigbee works
yeah, I think you misunderstand my conception
sly patio
asking in other way: any real disadvantage to have multiple slzb-06m coordinator...
Yes, it's literally not how Zigbee works
wintry raven
but is it how 2x Zigbee network work?
sly patio
I don't know what '2x' means there
wintry raven
it mean I can have 2 Zigbee network in 1 house instead of 1 Zigbee network.
sly patio
Multiple coordinators create multiple separate Zigbee networks
wintry raven
Then I will have better connection for devices
sly patio
As a mesh network, it's far more straightforward to simply use routers
wintry raven
But I don't know it it can make some not obvious issues. Maybe Zigbee really doesn't like 2 networks at the same place.
I don't want to have mesh network, because I prefer slzb-06m -> LAN -> HA which is better, than mesh
the same with wifi. AP <-> LAN is better, than mesh
as long as have ethernet cable in each AP of course
sly patio
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quasi mason
Your zigbee devices which act as routers (usually any zigbee device that is mains powered) will continue to act as routers. you can't "not mesh". You will have mesh.
wintry raven
As I understand I can: I can have 2 coordinators. Each in different level of house and 0 routers.
which should be more efficient, because each coordinator is connected directly to LAN
no issue with repeating signal through each level of solid concrete house
unless slzb-06m in 1 Zigbee network have some "hidden" optimization to connect to each other with LAN, but low probability
I mean mesh make sense if deivces don't have ethernet cable. This is the reason why it exist. But while have plugged ethernet cable, then mesh doesn't make sense.
wifi has it solved
for example by Roaming with the same SSID and password
but Zigbee doesn't (?), so 2x Zigbee network
anyway I will try it, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work as long as HA can have integrated 2x Zigbee network.
clever sphinx
You're asking how to put petrol into a diesel car and have it still work.
Don't complicate things by trying to use it in a way it wasn't designed to work.
wintry raven
depends on point of view. analogy: I don't have mesh in house while have multiple AP, because it makes more sense and is more efficient.
Most likely people will say of course do mesh, because is better but if you go deep you will discover it is not if each AP has ethernet cable plugged in.
Zigbee is a little less advanced, so I expect I will have to have 2x Zigbee network... anyway I will test if there are not obvious issues.
the idea of mesh is for devices which are not plugged into LAN, but to power cable. Then it shine. Otherwise it is more disadvantage, than advantage.
west reef
sounds like you know what you want. You do you!
wintry raven
I will 🍻