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violet condor Apr 12, 2025, 7:30 PM

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If automation change stat from X to X, will it send request to device or ignore?

context: I want to avoid spamming requests which do nothing. For example change light from off to off. Do I have to add extra condition to check if light is not off to not send off?

shut stag Apr 12, 2025, 7:33 PM

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that's not a state change, so it won't trigger anything

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if you're talking about what happens if you tell a device that's off to turn off, it will send the command again

violet condor Apr 12, 2025, 7:34 PM

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to be clear: Do you mean if result of automation change state to the same value nothing will happen.

shut stag Apr 12, 2025, 7:34 PM

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it's up to the integration to decide whether not to, but I suspect that most will just send the command anyway

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if you don't want that, you can add a condition

violet condor Apr 12, 2025, 7:35 PM

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I see: if I choose "device" as a result of automation the "off" will be send, but if I will select "entitity" as a result of automation and the state will be not modified nothing will happen.

shut stag Apr 12, 2025, 7:35 PM

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no, there's no difference between those

violet condor Apr 12, 2025, 7:35 PM

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hmm so I didn't get it

shut stag Apr 12, 2025, 7:35 PM

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ok

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actions don't care what state the device is already in

violet condor Apr 12, 2025, 7:35 PM

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Will it send request to device controling light if state is already "off" ?

shut stag Apr 12, 2025, 7:35 PM

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they just do what you asked

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you're turning it on

violet condor Apr 12, 2025, 7:36 PM

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What did you mean by

that's not a state change, so it won't trigger anything

?

shut stag Apr 12, 2025, 7:37 PM

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I misunderstood your initial question

violet condor Apr 12, 2025, 7:37 PM

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shut stag you're turning it on

wrong screen, for this changing from "on" to "on"

violet condor Apr 12, 2025, 7:37 PM

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shut stag I misunderstood your initial question

ah then I got it

shut stag Apr 12, 2025, 7:37 PM

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actions always run

violet condor Apr 12, 2025, 7:37 PM

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thanks

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any way to configure HA to not send request if state didn't change?

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for all automations?

shut stag Apr 12, 2025, 7:38 PM

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no

violet condor Apr 12, 2025, 7:38 PM

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🍻

shut stag Apr 12, 2025, 7:38 PM

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Add conditions where you want to avoid it. I do that in my "turn off all the lights" automation to avoid wasting time turning off lights that area already off, because it can slow down the response

violet condor Apr 12, 2025, 7:39 PM

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This is what I am doing, but I don't like it because I repeat myself a lot

shut stag Apr 12, 2025, 7:39 PM

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script:
  fr_off:
    mode: queued
    sequence:
      - condition: state
        entity_id: switch.fr_lamp_group
        state: 'on'
      - entity_id: switch.fr_lamp_group
        action: homeassistant.turn_off

violet condor Apr 12, 2025, 7:40 PM

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sorry, this is better example of repeating

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I have trigger and condition: motion off / person off. plus I check if light is on (not off).

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A lot of repeating

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I was looking a way to simplify it, but if not possible, then I have my answer 🙂

shut stag Apr 12, 2025, 7:42 PM

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you can always combine things

violet condor Apr 12, 2025, 7:42 PM

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?

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Do you mean create scripts?

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or blueprint?

shut stag Apr 12, 2025, 7:43 PM

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blueprints are one option, scripts are another, templates another

violet condor Apr 12, 2025, 7:45 PM

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side question: any way to develop blueprint live in UI to test it, make changes , test... ?

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some kind of extension for developers with extra funcionality?

shut stag Apr 12, 2025, 7:48 PM

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not that I'm aware of

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but I don't use them

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