strange pendant
Why is (apparently just my) home assistant so absolutely horrible with UTC time?
I'm trying to build an automation, set the time to 0930, and it triggers at 04:30. WTAF
Do I seriously need to configure automations in UTC??
This has to be some sort of Home Assistant bug as I've posted about this same issue regarding the historic energy usage panes as well.
strange pendant
it also doesn't account for DST on its own, but that's a separate issue
my only other suspicion is that somehow it's getting messed up from BIOS time, but the system should be accounting for that with UTC.
real vapor
That's definitely odd. My time based automations all work. What system are you running on?
strange pendant
HAOS on a mini-pc, nothing special.
Don't get me wrong, my automations work, it's just that I have to configure them 5 hours ahead of where i want them to actually fire.
real vapor
Do you have the bios time properly set? Keep in mind that haos is basically Linux, which prefers the bios to be in UTC
strange pendant
turns out i need to check it anyway since i just tried to restart it and now it's not coming back online.
real vapor
If you updated os it takes a while.
strange pendant
no updates, just a restart.
i adjusted the timezone and rebooted the whole unit to see what it does
ye same thing, still 5 hours behind my input
real vapor
Again, make sure the time is correct in the bios. And remember, it's supposed to be UTC time in the bios.
I'm not sure if haos includes an ntpdate binary or not.
strange pendant
it doesn't include datetimectl that's for sure
real vapor
Do you have SSH set up for remote access?
strange pendant
I don’t remember but that doesn’t help me for bios time. I have CLI access now but let me check the bios time rq
BIOS time is correct. It’s UTC.
it was one day ahead but that’s insignificant.
Any SSH ideas?
real vapor
If it's too far ahead, it won't ever set the time right
Try running the command "ntpdate" all by itself, what does it do?
strange pendant
i mean, i fixed it and it's still 5 hours ahead.
-bash: ntpdate: command not found
real vapor
Meh, ok gimme a sec, lemme play with mine a bit.
strange pendant
does yours do what mine is doing?
strange pendant
The correct local time.
Mon Mar 31 20:59:38 EDT 2025
real vapor
Well, then this is above my pay grade, because time is setz timezone is set, and I really have no other ideas.
strange pendant
Thanks for running through some basics with me.
Do you have evergy monitoring items?
real vapor
No
strange pendant
oof
strange pendant
im there
eternal yacht
make sure time zone there isn't conflicting with your home assistant server setting
strange pendant
lol what
eternal yacht
heh well at least you figured it out
strange pendant
how is my local time zone set to iceland
real vapor
You have your location set up incorrectly. 🤣
strange pendant
i never set this though, where's that even coming from
eternal yacht
i think local time zone uses your computer time zone or something, not entirely sure
server time zone is the one set up in HA settings
eternal yacht
i'm not really sure where it gets local time zone from, but i suspect just changing that setting to server time zone will at least fix the issue youre having
strange pendant
it was already set to that
eternal yacht
huh
i would at least try setting it to local time zone and see how that affects setting up your automations
since somethings clearly going on there
strange pendant
ok that's weird.
it lines up now
but i'm not in reykjavic
my brain can't handle what the heck is going on, omg
eternal yacht
lol
real vapor
Check your location
strange pendant
location in settings is fine
real vapor
Weird.
strange pendant
ok so here's an odd one
mystic frost
The “your local time zone” selection comes from the computer your browser is on. It has nothing to do with HA.
strange pendant
everything lines up visually... things are resetting at midnight (solves energy problem) and my automation times line up.
except now home assistant is 4 hours in the future.
so i have to find out where it's getting this wack timezone from
computer is set properly to EDT - New York.
ok it's a browser issue.
tried it with Chrome and I'm back to square one.
actually scratch that the automations line up but now my energy issue is unsolved again.
i can handle that, but the time was unacceptable. looks like i have to just figure out what my browser is doing
Bingo. Found it. That solves that.
Thanks all. 👍🏼
real vapor
Bingo. Found it. That solves that.
As invested as I am you're just gonna leave it at that? Found what? Lol
strange pendant
So I use LIbreWolf, a firefox clone that has a heavy focus on privacy preservation. It uses a tool called Resist Fingerprinting.
Among other things, it includes timezone spoofing.
That's why HA thought I was in Reykjavic.
real vapor
Ahh
strange pendant
once I tested it with Chrome I narrowed it down immediately.
but it still doesn't solve the energy graph issue - i might post again for that.
real vapor
So does LW have an option to not do that on local network sites?
strange pendant
No.
