#Recommended Z-Wave USB stick

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warm idol
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So i am thinking about replacing my old Aeotec Gen5 stick with something newer. What's the current recommendation for EU frequency nower days? I see that the the Gen7 Aeotec stick had (?) it's issues, but could not find outif they have been solved.

shadow niche
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Zooz has an EU variant, and from what I understand Zooz stuff the recommendation for zwave these days.

warm idol
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Was think about the Zooz 800 Series Z-Wave Long Range S2 USB Stick ZST39 LR as well, reviews look pretty good. While i was happy with my Gen5 Aeotec Stick new Gen7 gets very mixed reviews

frail plinth
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Avoid the gen7

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If you don't need one now, you could also wait for the new one from Nabu Casa in 2-3 months

warm idol
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Actually my network has been rock solid for several years, but recently started to became flaky, I get a lot of „Failed to send the command after 3 attempts“ and can‘t figure out why, mesh seems perfectly fine. Additionally I still have an old firmware on the stick but updating it is a pain in the a**, I don‘t have a windows machine etc. So I decided to pull the plug;-)

frail plinth
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There was a bug where commands would not be retried when there was a collision between Z-Wave JS and the stick.

warm idol
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Yes I did, you have a link to the GitHub issue? Can‘t find anything

frail plinth
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fixed in driver version 15.0.3

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Z-Wave JS UI v10.1.2

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Addon: not yet

hollow badger
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If you're ever going to use Zigee too, get the Z-Station by Z-Wave.me. It has BLE, Zigbee, Z-Wave and Thread. Works great for Zigbee and Z-Wave. I haven't tried BLE

digital stump
hollow badger
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Should be able to. It plugs into a USB. Confirm with Z-Wave.me who make the Z-Station

frail plinth
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FWIW, Z-Wave.me is no longer and only support the existing hardware.
I wouldn't expect future firmware updates to be available much longer

hollow badger
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Damn... The Z-Station is a nice device hopefully someone will buys the IP or develops firmware for it. I'll ride it until it develops a problem then look for something similar I like the design

marble escarp
hollow badger
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How does the Z-Stick 10 pro work from Aeotec? It's dual Zigbee 3.0 Z-Wave 800

frail plinth
hollow badger
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Yeah I'm aware but, I think it's Z-wave only based on FCC cert

hollow badger
marble escarp
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The employee? 🤷‍♂️

frail plinth
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One of /the/ Z-Wave experts

hollow badger
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OK

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Does Trident stand a chance against SiLabs, TI, etc?

frail plinth
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I hope so. If only because you don't need a 5 GB bloated slow as fuck application that requires a login to download a publicly hosted 5 GB SDK before you can do anything.

marble escarp
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I'd make a guess the SDK was one of the reasons to acquire Z-Wave.me, since they've been writing firmware the whole time

hollow badger
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Understood, but users may prioritize a long history of Zigbee and Z-wave radio technology experience

marble escarp
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There's a lot of ill will towards SiLabs due to their recent Z-Wave firmware, IMO

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(for those that care at that level)

hollow badger
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In a former life I developed code for very low power FCC part 15 radio devices. If you don't use an RF engineer experience in low power devices you'll be in pay me latter situation. RF design is science and magic

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A quick Zigbee data sheet benchmark it looks like Trident is behind Silabs in technology and it looks like it's their first Zigbee and Z-Wave rodeo.

frail plinth
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Not sure about Zigbee but they got a bunch of Z-Wave tech from Silabs when starting. The entire point was breaking up the single source situation.

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...which is AFAIK why IKEA went with Zigbee instead of Z-Wave for their Smart home stuff in the first place

hollow badger
frail plinth
hollow badger
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I guessing Nabu Casa Paulus was wise enough to not go the early adopter route

frail plinth
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Truth be told, they were too slow. We had decided on a chip months before they had their first one.

hollow badger
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You won't be sorry. Nobody does new silicon right the first time.

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The ONLY real real test is the fielded production beta

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The goal of new product is not bleeding edge, it's customers happy that they have no problems. It's really hard to overcome bad first press