#Ikea Rodret button turning on/off lights that it isn't programmed to

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manic valley
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Hoping someone can help me here. I'm a fairly new HA user, and am having some odd behaviour with my setup. I'm running HA on a Ubuntu system, my coordinator is a SLZB-06m, and I'm running a mix of Ikea and Third Reality Zigbee devices under ZHA.

I had three bedroom lights grouped in ZHA and had a Somrig button set to turn them off and on, but that button was also turning on and off another light elsewhere in my house. I removed that light from my setup, re-added it, and now it is staying on or off when I push my bedroom button, but another light in my house has started turn on and off with the bedroom button. Removed and readded that light, and now am seeing a third diferent light behave the same. I'm at a loss here. I've also removed and re-added the bedroom button to try and clear/reset it, and the problematic behaviour persists.

Any thoughts?

manic valley
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Just realized my button is a Rodret, not a somrig.

winter finch
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If you did, the rodret comes already paired with the bulb that comes with

manic valley
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No, I bought individual bulbs and buttons. I've paired everything to my zigbee network by using the pairing buttons on the remotes and then adding device

winter finch
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Im fairly new to Zigbee also. Do you have any thing on HA, like an automation or something that when you press the button on the remote you turn on X,Y,Z bulbs?

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Maybe there’s a random bulb selected there, or there’s a bulb added to a wrong group

manic valley
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My group is setup with only the bulbs it should have. I think it's a glitch somewhere, because with I reset (remove and repair) the problematic bulb it stops misbehaving and another bulb becomes problematic.

long atlas
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Sounds like it may be binding to bulbs. Read up on zigbee bindings.

winter finch
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And Inside HA you control what that remote turns on or off.

manic valley
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Am I not adding the remote to my list of devices properly?

long atlas
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Doesn't matter, some remotes will automatically bind to the first bulb they see to "make it easier"

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Go into zha, manage device, be sure to unbind it from everything it sees, and bind it to a bulb you want to control, then it'll stop automatically binding

manic valley
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Ikea Rodret button turning on/off lights that it isn't programmed to

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When I go into device settings for one of the problematic buttons it isn't showing anything as being bound currently

long atlas
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Select them all and click unbind

winter finch
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If you want I can share here the blueprint I use with my rodrets

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From what you describe I feel that your rodret is pairing with zha but also with some bulb

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Personally I use z2m not zha

manic valley
manic valley
olive wolf
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Could it be that you set up the remote to control a specific bulb in ZHA but now you're putting automations on top of them.
I have a few Somrig buttons and I've never seen anything like that.
Maybe you have automations to turn on lights in a specific area but you switched around bulbs by accident

winter finch
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I have a lot of Rodret and IKEA lights and I’ve paired all to Z2M and not between them, then I ran automations and blueprints and everything works normally, never had rogue lights or weird stuff happen

manic valley
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So, I mentioned earlier that I had deleted and readded a few devices to try and figure out what's happening, and that when I do so the button seems to grab a new light or automation as it's new mystery item.... Here's an example of what's happening right now:

long atlas
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Doing it that way is just playing whack a mole. Stop removing devices and find the actual problem

manic valley
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This button is running the automation I have setup, but is also turning my front light on when I press power on

long atlas
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Click the 3 dots by the device name, manage device.

manic valley
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"manage zigbee devices"?

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(no s)

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Ok, I'm there.

long atlas
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I'm on my phone, so bear with me.

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This is what my garage relays look like for my overhead lighting.

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I can select to bind or unbind any of them. I didn't do it in the web browser..

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Put select in the drop down, the light that keeps turning on, but isn't supposed to. Then click unbind.

manic valley
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Ok, it's pending right now. It seems slow.

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The text for my front light is/was not blue like 'garage relay 2' is in your second image (I'm on a desktop browser though). Not sure if that tells us anything.

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It has finished unbinding.

long atlas
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Try it again

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Use the button. See if it turns off anything

manic valley
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Still turns my light off or on when off or on is pressed on the button.

long atlas
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Hm

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What kind of light?

manic valley
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Third reality RGB

long atlas
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So it's also zigbee or...

manic valley
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It is also zigbee

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When I manually run (from a browser) the automation that I want the button to perform i do not see this behaviour.

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So I know it's not an error in the automation itself

long atlas
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And have you done this?

manic valley
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Have I run the automation from a browser? Yes, I have. It performs exactly how I want it to.

long atlas
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It's a remote, not just a button, and it wants to be paired with at least one light.

manic valley
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I see.... So, I just did the 4 quick press reset you linked (again), and it's now still running the automation that I want, but instead of turning off and on the light outside my front door it's now turning on and off the light on my spare bedroom and a light in my basement

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Maybe this isn't the right item for what I'm trying to do

long atlas
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Probably not. It keeps pairing with random bulbs.

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You may have luck pairing it with the zigbee controller itself and I'm then unpairing it from the other bulbs.

manic valley
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Do you know if it would be happy paired to a group rather a device? I have another Rodret in my bedroom that I use to control (currently via automation) the three bulbs in my fixture there.

long atlas
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Possibly. I dont personally use the Ikea stuff, as the closest Ikea store to me is a few hundred miles away, but I've had similar behaviors from a smart button/dial style dimmer. It kept pairing with a neighbor's smart led strip, because the bulbs I wanted to actually use it with were wifi, lol

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Luckily, it had multiple modes and once I switched modes on it, it stopped doing that. But that was a cheap little $17 tuya zigbee dimmer.

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My neighbor and I both laughed it off once we realized it was us dimming and brightening her LEDs seemingly randomly

manic valley
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Oh man, I hadn't even considered the possibility of this pairing with someone else's devices

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I guess I'll have to go hunting for some cheap zigbee buttons. These Ikea remotes are like 9 or 11 bucks. I like them a lot aside from the undesired behaviour

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Thanks for your time today, appreciate it

long atlas
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That's the one I have. It's got 1-3 click events, plus it spins cw and CCW and puts events out for those as well. It's a little bigger than my watch face around..

winter finch
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I know its frustrating but i wouldnt discard those Rodrets right away, something else is going on there

long atlas
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Yeah. I'm sitting here w my supv so I gotta get off and pretend to work. Lol