#Automations changed recently - perplexed

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eternal swallow
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I had my system all set up and working fine, no problems. Within the last few days, I noticed some of my lights had fallen off of the Zigbee network. That hadn’t happened in the last year. Oddly, other functionality has changed a bit too. I’ll describe.

  1. If I use the Home Assistant app (phone, desktop, etc.) all devices work as expected. I’ll restrict to just lights for now. If I tell a light (or group of lights) to turn on, they turn on. No issues with #1.
  2. If I press a button that should turn on my kitchen lights, they don’t turn on - sort of. I’ll explain. The lights don’t physically turn on, but if I look at the Home Assistant app, it looks like they did. All of the on/off for each light toggles. If I press the button again, the controls all toggle back off. Repeat and get same. The app controls toggle, yet the lights don’t.
  3. After doing #2, I wanted to confirm. I repeated #1 (control lights through the HA app), and the lights work as expected.
  4. As an alternate to the button, I asked Alexa to turn on or off the same group. There were no complaints from Alexa, the controls in the app changed and still - the lights themselves don’t change.

So, from this I have essentially proven that communication to the lights is working just fine. Something is off with my automations. Do they get corrupt somehow?

Ideas on what to do next?

eternal swallow
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FYI - I skipped a step. I re-paired devices to get them back on the network prior to experimenting w/ Alexa or my buttons.

stray wyvern
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Step #2 you say “press a button”. Do you mean a button on a dashboard? Or a physical button that you have integrated to HA?

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Assuming it is on a dashboard, then we need to see what script (or automation) it triggers

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I am going to guess that you used device actions in your script/automation, and when you re-paired your lights the devices all get new device_id’s and therefore they all broke.

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/why-and-how-to-avoid-device-ids-in-automations-and-scripts/605517

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Why and how to avoid device_ids in automations and scripts

This topic is part of the community-driven cookbook where you can find other topics you might be interested in or might like to contribute to. Background When you start writing automations, a device trigger seems the obvious choice. Everybody knows what a device is and it comes at the top of the UI dropdown list. It works… but it is certa...

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topaz frost
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Can you target the ZigBee group with the light.turn_on action in Dev Tools > Actions and run successfully? Are you using an automation to listen for the button press events and then turn on the lights? If so, does anything turn up in the trace?

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