When you want to find the right device, what is the very first thing you start looking for?

[fossil vale]

Hey! Laura from Nabucasa here! I'm working with the Product team that helps maintain and improve the core structure of Home Assistant in the Open Home Foundation.

I'm here because I want to learn how you pick the right device, to be sure we are exposing the right info and helping you get the right one too, so getting what you need is simpler but always 100% your choice (everyone makes decisions based on their own needs differently). The purpose being learning if we can figure out ways to support you better in those choices.

I do have my own personal experience with HA and I read the forums, reddit and discord as much as I can, but I thought it makes more sense to just ask you directly and get your feelings from small polls or comments. All help is welcome!

When you want to find the right device, what is the very first thing you start looking for?

Everyone looks for something different, some things I could think of as possibilities:

• The end purpose I need, in case it exists - Plant controller, air conditioning controller, car door controller...
• The device type - plug, temperature sensor, movement sensor... regardless of the purpose
• The brand, in case a brand I like has a device I could use
• A rough description of the goal, in hopes to get a forum response etc.

What is the most common for you?

[hallow marten]

The first thing I check once I know which kind of device to buy is wether they can be easily used through homeassistant. Like at best there would be an integration which is used by a lot of people offering local only connectivity. I'm not that interested in sticking with a specific brand or connectivity if it fits into my other devices as a whole. If no integration is available I check hacs and add-ons but this usually indicates that I either need to find a different way of getting what I want or that I need to buy a different product.
The second most important thing to me would be efficiency in a lot devices, either by long battery life or low power consumption.

[rich crater]

For me, Function, communications protocol(IE zigbee/Zwave/wifi), reviews and price

[old tree]

Failure scenarios: If I lose Internet or HA connectivity on the device, how will it continue to function? Internet outages should remove as few features as are logically possible, and HA disconnects for items replacing traditional objects should leave the object functioning at least as well as a traditional device installed in the same role.
The latter one is especially important, if something stops working under that scenario, I'd likely have been better off buying a "dumb" device and using that.

[fossil vale]

Ok so first you'd go check the HA compatibility options, so you don't get a nasty surprise later on... makes sense, I've been in that end a couple times myself 🙃

[hallow marten]

Pretty much yea.

Like some things aren't listed there and I still buy them but then always with a plan and without disappointment ^^

[surreal horizon]

This. Depending on the communication protocol I’ll either look into a device more or scrap it.

Basically leads into HA compatibility 🙂

[fossil vale]

and considering you already have compatibility sorted out, what would be the second thing to look at?

[surreal horizon]

Price.

Price or features, really depends

If it has a feature I like, I’m okay paying a little more depending on what it is

[jagged flower]

Like others have mentioned, there needs to be good integration with home assistant, but just as important, I want my home to continue to function without home assistant knowledge or connectivity. This is mostly for my wife.

For example I love the Leviton zigbee light switches since they look identical to a standard decora switch.

[fossil vale]

What about processes you might not be familiar with? For example first time wanting to automate a garden or installing covers.

[foggy slate]

a) identifying a need (e.g. colored lights would be nice)
b) researching for possible off-the-shelf options
c) identifying/pre-selecting HA compatible options
c) weighing different options (local over cloud, cost vs. quality, protocol considerations, look and feel,...)
d) planning and purchasing, if options are available and meet requirements

-# e) looking into DIY options.

[humble saffron]

probably start with: community members (discord/forums/reddit/youtube/etc..) with the same or similar goal and what they used to achieve it and what problems they had. this helps make me aware of potential problems ahead of time and things to look out for with potential devices. also no point rediscovering a solution to a problem that's already been solved.

then: functionality/HA compatibility - trustworthiness of company selling - price (will pay more for something better or something I want to support) - reviews

[devout merlin]

I mostly but devices based on needs. Soon I'm installing a video doorbell, which doesn't support mechanical chimes, but the included chime sounds bad, so I'm currently looking into if the Unifi Chime could be used standalone and then triggered via Home Assistant.

Previously I was searching for a remote as Sonos (as you might know) doesn't have the best response time. I'm currently testing a few ZigBee remotes (the IKEA STYRBAR and the Philips Hue Dimmer Switch v2 as I already had those on hand).

I also purchased a few different ZigBee sensors for a school project purely to demonstrate automations in Home Assistant. Now they are integrated around the house.

[foggy slate]

And sometimes it is just a "Oh, new HA/NC hardware. Need that for my collection."

[fossil vale]

I wanted to laugh but then I looked left-right for my pile of smartdevice boxes waiting to be installed 🤣

[foggy slate]

I may or may not have bought one of those just to have the set completed.

[last flume]

After identifying my minimum requirements for the device, I see if there is anything available with a communication method I already use. Don't want to increase complexity of my smart-stuff by adding yet another protocol / communication standard - and some kind of controller for it (like Bluetooth or z-wave) to the mix.

[fossil vale]

What are normally your minimum requirements for the device? in terms of type (plug, sensor, etc) or something more specific?

[last flume]

Eg. for a light I mean minimum CRI i want it to have or if it should have only white or support colors too.

For a relay thing this could be if it can only switch, or also measure power consumption - and how exact it would need to measure that.

[foggy slate]

Or how many Amps it is rated for.

[last flume]

always 16 😛

[golden lantern]

We need to train an AI for this

[hallow marten]

No we absolutely don't need slop

[woeful roost]

First I search based on functionality (e.g. "smart home outside motion sensor") to see what kind of devices exist. For me, I primarily use Zigbee so then I'll further narrow it down based on protocol. If there's no Zigbee/Z-Wave options, then I start looking for what's compatible with HA. Brand's generally don't matter to me, but obviously if there's a brand that I'm familiar with in the list of devices I find, I'll gravitate towards them, assuming I've had good experiences.

[eternal socket]

I almost always start my search with: [description of the thing I want] ZigBee

Example: motion sensor ZigBee

From there I'll look at options and find the right one on my budget (which is usually pretty cheap)

Other times I'll start by just searching my end goal and browsing forums to see how others have solved the same issues.

[late terrace]

For me:

• Works with Home Assistant is a must. zigbee seems most reliable so I check blakadder's ZHA list first. Sadly a lot of products there seem to be obsolete or not available in UK. Usually I expect it to be fully local so that internet is only needed for changing settings.
• Preferably available from Amazon UK with free pickup from my local Amazon store unless it's small enough to go through the letterbox or so heavy I wouldn't want to carry it home. That lets me test it, see if it does what I need and get a refund within 10 minutes if it doesn't.
• Then I look for functional details like whether power by mains, USB or batteries is most convenient. If it's battery operated, whether its easy to change the battery (I returned one wall mounted product because it was wall mounted by adhesive and no way to change the batteries without taking it off the wall). Replaced it with a sonoff that has a magnetic holder (great for home, but would be too easy to steal in a public place)

[old tree]

Oh, yeah, good point, batteries are a big issue for me as well, if it doesn't support a pretty standard battery (internal rechargeable, AA or AAA, or a common button cell like CR2032), I'll skip it, because I don't want to stock a type of battery just for one device. Mains and USB also great.

[true patio]

For me, HA compatibility, Zigbee communication, local only is a must, if it uses battery, must be AA or AAA rechargeable, and finally price. I'll pay more for a reliable plug to control high loads as a dishwasher, IE

[mild leaf]

I'm still setting my smart home up, and only have a few devices, but my HA setup already has both a zwave and a zigbee network ready for when I plug those devices into it. Compatibility and peer2peer support (forums and chat) are my biggest things. Another nice-to-have would be prominent links to yaml examples for those of us with scripting experience, but not with yaml specifically, although that's easily found if you look hard enough.

[edgy belfry]

First I have a need for what I want to do, then I decide on protocol and make sure it’s compatible with HA. Price then is the next thing in question

[languid rose]

For me:

• Home Assistant Integration
• Zigbee (or something else where it does not rely on a cloud based integration)
• Mains or battery powered (and if battery, what's the battery life)
• Available in Australia 😅

[shrewd lagoon]

I've been used Wifi devices so far but your post has helped me that Zigbee is my next wave.

[languid rose]

I don't mind WiFi, but just don't want too many of them all over the network 😅

[vague ocean]

Avoiding Tuya because it is so hit-miss, and only using it if it's free or no other way to do it. If I want something to just always work I use zwave, if that's too expensive then zigbee, or I just buy whatever expecting 50-50 it will work. Bluetooth sucks. Never that.
So I guess Protocol most important thing and avoiding hassle and certain companies #2.

[cunning summit]

First thing I look for is Zigbee, second thing is native HA support, or a good 3rd party integration if there's no native HA support

Ease of integration is 99% of the battle - there's nothing better than a device just showing up with auto-detection, or it linking directly with ZHA and all the actions/sensors showing up first time

If it does that and works reliably, that's pretty much all I care about

[vital cloak]

I've actually just started looking for blinds to use, so this question is relevant for me.
So my search efforts so far are:

1. Find out what the hell is actually available/possible and maybe price ranges. At this point I just want to know if some actually exists and how much I might be up for
2. Ok I've found stuff exists - So narrow it down.
   2.1) Whats the comms method and can I use it. ie it needs to work with HA or it's dropped.
   2.2) Local only is important, internet here can be flakey and the last thing I want is to have no (thing) if the net is down. So anything that relies on cloud that I can't circumvent in some way or form is dropped.
   2.3) Manual override is mostly required. If I'm rebooting the server I still want to be able to turn the lights on.
3. Once at this point it pretty much comes down to the usual Price/Colour/Looks choice of anything

[gray blade]

For me it would be

1. Need local home assistant support (no cloud)
2. Communication type compatible with my current setup.
3. Power. Battery lifetime? If mains powered, do I have power at location the device will be used?
4. Availability. Can I buy it in my country?
5. Quality; will it last many years (sustainability)

[verbal granite]

Semi-concurrently:

1. Clearly define and articulate the problem to be solved or opportunity to capture, Identify constraints and ideal interactions/automations
2. Research options available to solve. Consider buy vs. make (e.g. ESPHome)
3. How will it integrate into HA. Does it use my existing protocols (zigbee) or will it add a wifi device. Cloud-only is very last resort and avoided.

Repeat 1, 2, and 3 until a solution and path forward has been decided on.

4. Research hardware to actually purchase. Considerations for form factor, aesthetics, maintainability (e.g. battery type), installation headache, availability & ship time, cost, brand reputation, reviews, etc.

[worldly sky]

My list of criteria in order of priority:

1. Does it integrate into Home Assistant?
2. Is the product 100% local control?
3. Does it use my preferred mesh network technology? (Thread)
4. If it doesn't, does it use ESPHome?
5. What are users saying about the quality of the product?
6. What are users saying about the customizability of the product?
7. If the product is battery powered, what is the expected battery life?

A couple examples of products that have fit my criteria and that I now use daily:

• Innovelli White dimmer switches
• Aqara P2 motion and door/window sensors
• Eve Energy outlet
• Innovative Sensors bed occupancy sensor

[alpine rampart]

Does ZigBee have anything like Z-Wave SmartStart?

For me, the top priority is that it will get firmware updates for security issues that come up, and that it can be securely joined to the network without being vulnerable to MITM during setup.

[hot comet]

Do you know if your switches are acting as thread mesh extenders or not? I want to get more, but can't seem to tell if they are extending properly.

[daring oasis]

• The first thing i search for is the Functionality that i require
• Then in that pool i search for Connection Protocols (Zigbee being the preference)
• In the new pool I then search for which one of those that work Zigbee2MQTT
• And after all that i watch all the reviews available on the product.

[worldly sky]

They are

[hot comet]

I want to continue asking how you can assert that is the case, but i dont wanna digress in this channel.

[latent dagger]

Personally I prefer devices that are matter or zwave mainly due to the ability to utilize them in other systems if/when big changes occur. I also look for a company with a history of sticking around. Nothing worse than getting a new product only for the company to fold soon after.

[worldly sky]

"routing end device"

[empty obsidian]

Besides just deciding what type of device, at the top of my list is if it’s sold in the country I live in. Often that’s a no. After that the protocol it uses probably. Battery or outlet powered. Is it a temporary modification. How independent is it, meaning how much can it do/connect to when things are down.

Mostly looking at matter and thread, although the device choices are quite poor right now. Zigbee is reliable, mostly, but I don’t really see it having a future.

[signal lintel]

After building my home automation for a few years and using ha, I have a kano-model like approach.

Core features: be able to integrate with HA

Preference-based:

• prefer local protocols over internet-based
• prefer reliable setups (LoRaWan) over typically unreliable (z-wave)
• prefer easy to scale (z-wave, ZigBee) over harder to scale (WiFi, Bluetooth)
• prefer cheap (z-wave) over expensive (ZigBee)

Use case based: it's really hard to find devices that work reliably externally, like external temperature and humidity sensors (that's how I found lora and lorawan)

If you look at the mentioned standards above, there is no clear winner. Thus I always need to make a tradeoff across the reliability - price - external usage - scalability domains.

[hollow raptor]

Similar boat to @signal lintel.

My property is long and thin; only ~16m/50' side to side, but around 30m/100' from the house to the boundary at one end (where I have a glasshouse, in which there are sensors that ideally need a high IP rating), and a detached garage 40m/130' in the other direction.

My local reseller of all things wireless has LoRa IoT hardware from Milesight (https://www.milesight.com/). I've used their internal sensors (temperature, humidity, motion, magnetic door contact switches), external (temperature, humidity, CO2, soil moisture), and even the garage door opener (which has a relay IO device).

The upside of the LoRa system for me has been that battery life is impressive (the indoor environmental sensors have 5-10 year battery life, depending on model), one gateway covers the entire property (which I expect no other PTMP system would be able to achieve), and the hardware is all high quality.

The downsides are it's expensive (welcome to enterprise IoT, we hope you enjoy your stay), and there's no native integration whatsoever (Milesight's gateways speak MQTT so it was relatively simple to add things as MQTT discovery devices, but it's all my own doing).

Writing some kind of proper integration with the gateway is on my long-term to-do list. I've been talking in Milesight's discord, and it looks like I might be able to have the gateway generate the MQTT discovery configuration (at the moment I have a script that is pulling the list of devices from the gateway, generating the configuration based on their model number, and sending that into HA). I doubt anything I write would ever reach feature parity with the likes of Zigbee2MQTT or ZWaveJS, but I'll do my best 🙂

[mild leaf]

Since when is zwave cheap compared to zigbee stuff??

[empty obsidian]

I thought the same. I don’t use zwave myself. But ‘not reliable’ is never a term I’ve seen used to refer to zwave before.

[surreal horizon]

I prefer zwave personally

doesn’t use the crowded 2.4ghz spectrum

I only recommend it if you’re in the US tho

other countries have hardly any devices

[hollow raptor]

That is a thing that stopped me ever looking at Z-Wave. Double-whammy of limited 230V and/or Type I plug options, and you can't even realistically import things because what "900MHz" means in various countries is very much not the same thing.

[shrewd wolf]

When I am looking for a smart device, I have some specific scenarios that I want to enable. In almost all cases, "smart" is a liability — extra cost, extra hassle, new privacy and security concerns, new failure modes — so it has to fulfil a real need to be worthwhile.

I also limit my search to Matter over Thread. The device cannot go to Internet on its own. It cannot depend on continuing support from a vendor. It cannot require a hub or be locked into a walled garden.

Admittedly, this limits the choices to just a handful of smart devices of any kind.

[mild leaf]

Just so you know, matter over thread still needs a hub, just as much of a hub as zigbee and zwave, actually. in all 3 cases, HA can be that hub if you have the correct hardware for it. A radio for zwave, zigbee, and thread. On my case: I use ZBT-1 for zigbee, a zooz USB stick for zwave, and I don't have a thread radio (yet)

[old tree]

It's a different kind of hub though, it's not some proprietary hub that you can only obtain from Big Matter, unlike many other smart brands where you can only talk to them via their own Branded Hub™ (e.g. You bought from Aquara, so you need an Aquara Hub), so I think I get what they're trying to say. Zigbee and Z-Wave are also in the "don't need Branded Hub™" category, so they're similarly fine.

[outer kayak]

I always look for the device that I need, because I usually stumble about a sensor or device online that does or does not work with HA.

My next step after doing so is searching for the best compatibility in hopes of not having to buy a hub for it or any other additional hardware. Not requiring an account or online bogus is also a really big plus because I want to buy something to own and not to sell my data or begging for a subscription to cover server costs for stuff that I could theoretically run locally.

This is followed by figuring out the quality of the connection, the device and feasability of aquiring said device.

[north hemlock]

First thing: NO CLOUD DEPENDENCY. 🤷‍♂️

[pliant laurel]

for me:

• can i use it with HA
• can i reasonably buy it and use it in europe. a lot of the smart home stuff you see online is US specific, US retailers only etc. Or it just doesnt work on european electronics. like smart switches that dont fit in the german switches etc

[simple gust]

I usually start with ESPHomes device list, cause then I can get my own firmware on it and potentially use it for more things. I also check Reddit for a potential device from that list, as some aren't supported anymore (gosund sp1 for example)

After that I check the Home-Assistent forums if someone else had a similar problem.

Then I Check zigbee, matter and such devices.

If I still didn't find anything I would see if I can reasonably build my own.

If there is still none, I check if there are devices that have cloud integrations. Preferably some I can redirect with DNS changes and what not :)

That's basically my process

[real brook]

Mostly I start directly with the device type + the protocol it uses (Zigbee, WiFi). Once I found a device that matches my needs I check if anybody mentions that it’s working fine in HA

[sturdy hill]

I'm here right now looking for a Matter over Thread temperature sensor that's relatively cheap. MoT implies HA can handle it. Then I look over reviews to see if it does what it claims and for complaints. Ideally I want the tech that will last into the future and not be outdated in a few years.

[alpine rampart]

Personally, I’m primarily interested in security, so Z-Wave SmartStart is really appealing.

[vast turret]

anyone recommend the best electronic door lock that will work with home assistant and also control 4?

[humble saffron]

start a new thread in #1284966353798697001 with the recommendation tag

[karmic wedge]

1. chatgpt / google
2. discord / give up

[willow hinge]

Does the device need a separate hub, login to third party in order to add it to home assistant or work by itself in connecting and functioning with home assistant. This is becoming more important with company trying to control and gather information from users

[twin shell]

#1 can it run ESPHome
If not:
#2 it must work Local only
#3 it must integrate to HA easily (enough)

Smart homing should ‘just work’

Tinkering is fine and all. But I need the basic stuff to work and make my life easier (I never want to think about it again).

[gusty glacier]

The question asked was “what is the very first thing you start looking for?”

My answer is: I look to define the problem I am trying to solve. I don’t necessarily care what the device is as long as it solves the problem I have in my specific case. Take a situation like having lights left on in a room after everyone leaves. The problem is the lights staying on in an empty room. The solution is to find a device that can tell home assistant the occupancy of the room and logic in an automation that cuts the lights. The device could be a PIR, it could be a mmWave presence sensor, it could be a door sensor, it could be pressure sensors on seats. I would explore all those possibilities and assess them on the basis of ‘do they solve the problem of lights staying on in an empty room?’ and move forward from that, always referencing the original problem and making sure I’m actually fixing it!

[cunning summit]

There's really no better feeling than firing up a new Smart Home device and it just connects, integrates, and works forever

[ionic magnet]

Honestly the biggest missing peice rn I think is smart speakers that don't have built in mics. Or if they do they're local only like home voice preview.

I've had a blast de Amazoning and going fully local.

It's taken home voice preview and then Spotify connect to Alexa devices

But I'm trying to get rid of all the spyware and unfortunately all speakers that DONT send vocal data back to a company start at 200 dollars

Meanwhile you can get a raspberry pi for like 40 bucks and put raspotify on it and suddenly any speaker is now a smart speaker that shows up on Spotify connect. You just plug it into the aux port. Meaning really nice speakers that are typically lower cost are suddenly now "smart" he'll even a pre configured dongle could be a business idea.

It's such low hanging fruit. I don't mind setting it up but if people had local music players that somehow still took vocal commands it would eat into Amazon and Google pie. It's really not a ton of cost only getting Spotify connect done up and integrated into home. Especially since voice preview automations can handle the brains of the operation.

[worthy coyote]

my criteria are:

• must be local
• must never require an app for setup
• ideally be zigbee because i don't want loads of things on my network
• come from a reliable company

what im currently struggling to find is a dehumidifier

[shell drift]

If a want to buy a new device that i want to integrate with home assistant i check in order:

• does home assistant have a native integration for the mnafacturer/device (before ordering my solar installation)
• does HACS have an integration
• can i use it with a local API (remote for backup to my remote location)
• avoid Tuya after bad experience
• networking via Wifi, BLE, Z-Wave
• ESPHome for DIY if possible

[nimble wolf]

First thing is of course the purpose of the device. Next if the device can integrate in HA. And third, does it do so locally (without any supplier services) and officially? The last point can be pretty hard to find sometimes. I do have devices that are not local or official but at least I know. I will not use that for critical stuff or stuff I primarily control via HA.

[golden lantern]

dehumidifiers are generaly on/off so you can just take a dumb one and connect to home assistant with a zigbee smart plug

[worthy coyote]

That's the conclusion I came to.

[worthy coyote]

i also avoid Tuya but i don't know if my gut feeling that's mostly used by cheap junk is correct or not.

[hollow raptor]

Mixed bag. Tuya certainly lives at the lower end of things, but devices using their chips certainly do reach into "acceptable" status. Just have to decide if the faffing about required to gain local control of them is an acceptable tradeoff

[tidal grove]

How big the device is and can it fit into an average person’s home decor. I don’t want a bunch of sensors all over my living place feeling like at best a corporate office and at worst a panopticon in my own home.

[smoky mirage]

I have a few stages in my approach.

First is function.
At the moment I am looking at energy metering sockets and human presence sensors, so I will look for any device that can do the job and make a list.

Second is protocol.
I prefer the device to be zigbee but wifi will do if the firmware can be either Tasmota/ESPhome or a device from shelly. Same goes for hardwired, wont connect a random unknown to my network.
I will always check the device against Blakadders compatibility list.

Third is ecosystem.
If a device is zigbee, I check for Zigbee2Mqtt capability. If it is wifi or hardwired and is not possible to modify firmware or support mqtt, I will check for native integrations/local control.

Fourth is power.
I prefer mains powered devices, but my ultimate preference is poe.
If the device is battery powered, I like to keep to one standard battery size in the house as much as possible.

Once I have this list, I'm fairly certain that I would be happy with any of the devices on the list and that they would work for me.
Then I trim it down. I discard anything that's not CE mark, outside my price range or might not be the right size/form factor.

I have found devices in the past that looked perfect but discovered that even though they had local control, they need to phone home or they will stop working. For me that's a red flag as I put home automation devices into a subnet that has no internet access.

[mild leaf]

I've had decent luck with tuya zigbee devices. They're zigbee, not wifi, and so they just work locally without needing the tuya integration.

[pine elk]

I've got to say, seeing the "Works with Home Assistant" badge on the packaging is sure up there for me nowadays - means the manufacturer cares about HA users and has put in extra effort to support them. (Plus it means I don't have to do as much work to verify for myself that the device supports local control, and the badge provides an indication of whether it uses a standard communication protocol)

[golden lantern]

did you make the ip addreesses fixed?

[cunning summit]

If they're zigbee they don't have "IP addresses" in the sense you're thinking of them. They have a different type of 16-bit address assigned by the coordinator

You shouldn't ever have to change anything about the addresses though, just handle things through the coordinator

[mild leaf]

What IP addresses? They're not connected to my wifi at all....

[golden lantern]

Oh not wifi

[agile sparrow]

I also hate devices that you need to glue to a wall. However, there's usually an easy workaround, like getting some of these https://www.amazon.de/deleyCON-Magnetbefestigung-Magnethalter-Selbstklebende-Magnethalterung/dp/B083P112C2?crid=10COVCEQQ5O9F&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3t5HWMUoO4qeqCHjMngfLK1RruXgNpC0OUxrm__8-7ahJ8IsJk4VUt8JTz5xRWYIevcxiioEowuFYerDStM4uxWspinTJ2skJ3n5dQ31Evm_9SKfYPXhY1dY-GbalkS2X3G8wSAlkiGmJ9HwKto9tQlt-Guz995Qrl-V9iRw5D-krsBWPEOTnyMeDBNdFl6t6U5cePtTOvlD-zHCgLfdVzn990P3Uuybmesw4R0F4Ok.1zzRgpzo9y-ZTx1872ZiEzw8VtD5UgvVKADIUbtoYi8&dib_tag=se&keywords=magnet%2Bmit%2Bmetallplatte%2Bselbstklebend&qid=1749720424&sprefix=magnet%2Bmit%2Bmetall%2Caps%2C101&sr=8-7&th=1 and transforming a "non magnet device" into a "magnet device" 🙂

[peak remnant]

Can anyone point me in the right direction? I have smarthome from futurehome and need to get home assistant. But most of my gadgets are enocean is there anyway to make that work?

[fossil vale]

hello! It totally depends if those devices have a Home Assistant integration, or a way to be connected. From a quick read into their webpage I see most of them have Zigbee protocol, this means you might be able to integrate them into home assistant with a zigbee antenna, I recommend you start looking into that