#apollo

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obtuse ledge
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I am very new to home assistant and home automation. I just ordered 3 apollo mtr-1 sensors. I just want to be able to know which sensor do I use to turn on a light when someone comes in and turn off a light when someone is not in the room. I keep going under automations-triggers and the sensors that pop up are not apollo presence sensors. I see apollo temperature, lights, distance, angle, etc, but nothing like "presense". So, I have googled for hours and cannot find any solution to this question. Once I figure how to get started, I can then add different entities that can be triggered. Thank you for your help!

barren plover
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is there a target count?
if = 0 then no presence
if > 0 then presence detected

obtuse ledge
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When I go to automations-when-device-trigger....that does not pop up as an option under, apollo mtr-1 device. I could be in the wrong area to set up this automation. I clearly have no idea. Thank you for responding.

barren plover
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use a numeric entity trigger to automate on changes to the count

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looking at the esphome code for the mtr-1 the entity you want from the device will be presence_target_count

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then if you set the numeric entity lower limit to 0 it should trigger on someone entering the room
to get the reverse you use upper limit of 1 so when it drops to 0 detections it triggers

obtuse ledge
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that definitely sets me in the right direction. Thank you for your time. I am very appreciative. You can go hours and hours down a rabbit hole and get nowhere.

barren plover
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no worries, i hope you get it sorted. i am a little supprised they dont have a generic on/off occupency entity in addition to count to be honest. maybe they will update in future. but you should be able to achive what you want with the numbers anyway.

obtuse ledge
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They really need to dummy this stuff down. lol

barren plover
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once you get the basics on how things work and where to look you will be supprised how quickly you will pick it up. just take it 1 step at a time and enjoy the wins. dont try and automate entire buildings all at once otherwise you will never get to the end

obtuse ledge
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Thanks for words of encouragement, Michael.

kindred sonnet
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the mtr-1 is a bit more complicated than most since it offers tracking of up to 3 people (with angle, direction, speed, resolution and distance from sensor for each) and also 3 zones. it also offers separate counters for presence, moving and still targets both overall and in each zone.

obtuse ledge
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Would you recommend a simpler motion sensor? I also have cats, so I am not sure they even make one that goes off weight.

barren plover
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pretty much all mmwave sensors are going to detect cats.

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you could try something like the "Everything Presence One" with both PIR and mmwave
that way you could tune the sensitivity of the PIR to activate on human but not cat (wont be perfect but mostly doable)
pir is not good for continued detection though so you could use PIR for light on and mmwave clearing for off.
that would mean cat could keep the light on if its already on but not activate if its off

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but thats not nessasarily "simpler"...

obtuse ledge
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I will definitely look it up. Thank you

kindred sonnet
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i think the other apollo sensors without multi person tracking and with only distance based zones have the ability to tune based on energy of the returned signal. that should be able to make cats invisible. with the mtr-1 you would have to place it angled upwards so that it doesn't see at floor level

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it's all down to the capabilities of the sensors used in the different models

obtuse ledge
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I just wished there were more videos on how to do automation with that device. It gets confusing with all the entities inside of it. Especially when you just starting out with home automation. There are lot of great videos that I have found. I have found few for this device, but not really in detail for what I need it for and how add automation. I currently am using it for temperature 🙄. I tried an automation last night, but I don't think it worked.