#light entities missing for automation

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placid compass
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I am trying to make a simple Light toggle automation and there doesn't seem to be any entities available? There are about 70 lights configured on the system I can toggle - but cant seem to get them from the automation. On a working system you get to select the target - on mine its missing. I have used incignoto mode in the browser to make sure it wasn't cache.

dull cairn
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how are the lights added to HA? (i.e. what integration)

sand sundial
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Are they switches, instead of light entities?

placid compass
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my own integration, using python. They show as lights. They all show up as lights. I have other devices too that are now listed like Shelley dimmers and all those things.

placid compass
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on a working system you get the select..

dull cairn
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Yup.. it could be that for whatever reason your lights are either not registering as toggleable, or not showing up as lights
Is the light "turn on" screenshot you shared also off your system and you just changed the theme to mess with us, or is that a screenshot from someone else? If it's the latter, does anything show up for you under light.turn_on?

placid compass
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The Light theme is broken... the dark theme is working ๐Ÿ˜„

dull cairn
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wait, so light.toggle works when you are in the dark theme too?

placid compass
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Light and Dark themes are completely different systems (just to compare)

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I am trying to figure out why one install does not show the three 'Choose Entity' 'Choose .....' selections

dull cairn
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ok

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does the selector turn up if you try to use the light "turn on" action, rather than the light "toggle" action?

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on your light theme (broken) system

placid compass
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same behaviour... ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

dull cairn
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What about if you use home assistant turn on/toggle?

placid compass
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that works

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I can press the sliders and they react. The light changes too ๐Ÿ˜„ (thats a good thing)

dull cairn
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Hmmm. They must not be registering under the light domain then for whatever reason, but the base turn on/off/toggle will work still

normal valve
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I've seen this happen from time to time, something gets screwed up in services and light and switch are missing the selector.

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Can you try restart HA?

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I've seen this reported 4-5 times and in every case the resolution was "it just started working again" mysteriously and I never figured out what it was.

placid compass
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nothing shows up... Shelley lights are missing too... I have updated to latest release and rebooted

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cleared cache and done a small rain-dance to try coax the entitys out..

normal valve
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I don't think it's a frontend cache issue, I think it's something from core.

placid compass
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I'll poke about some more .. restore the backup to a fresh install

normal valve
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or maybe the websocket, I don't know

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I think someone said restarting in safe mode helped.

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Even though it still worked again after they exited safe mode.

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maybe like it just flushed something out

placid compass
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will give it a go... thanks