The TRÅDFRI smart plug manual says specifically that it is not suitable for inductive loads. But the TRETAKT and INSPELNING ones specifically say they can handle a "motor" of 300W. Does that mean they handle inductive loads up to that wattage? Even if they are not specifically motors?
#Are the INSPELNING and TRETAKT smart plugs suitable for inductive loads?
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fading pulsar
A 300 watt motor is a motor that runs at an amp or less. Anything handles a 300w motor is basically what I'm saying. So probably not any motor.
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A fridge would be way out?
nocturne dock
the amount of power that a fridge actually uses when cooling varies, but in north america, probably around 500W or so is typical? bigger fridges with worse-insulated doors (e.g. 'french door' style) are likely to have bigger compressors.
i don't think i'd want to put a fridge on a smart plug tho, too many possibilities for something to go wrong, and then your food spoils :/
startup power on a fridge compressor could be as high as 1500-1800W tho
(which i guess is why the manual gives a motor rating of 300W - that leaves about 6x headroom for startup / locked rotor current)
fading pulsar
I have a zwave plug on a freezer, but with the zwave settings I am able to make sure it's always on and disabled the switch, so it's a power monitor and a zwave repeater. It's fine if it can't actually cut power with the relay.
nocturne dock
It is really weird that they would say "not suitable for inductive loads" and then also give a max power rating for motors (presumably for AC inductive motors)
Anything running on a DC switching power supply (including brushless DC or inverter drive motors) is typically a mix of resistive and inductive load, depending on how good the power factor correction in the DC PSU is.
cobalt fern
i had a similar question as I'm looking to get some Inspelnings to replace my now failing Kasas, specifically around the fridge point, using the power monitor feature specifically to alert when the fridge stops drawing power for a long period of time (Had a freezer die that we didn't notice for a few days). what number am i looking for on the label to see if it's viable? our fridge has like 4 different W values and none of them list the compressor
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It is really weird that they would say "not suitable for inductive loads" and th...
They said "not suitable for inductive loads" on TRÅDFRI, it's TRETAKT and INSPELNING that say "motor 300W"
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i had a similar question as I'm looking to get some Inspelnings to replace my no...
Honestly I think the Ikea stuff is just not an option for us
My original question was just, is "motor" basically synonymous with "inductive load" the way they are using it here
because there are some non-motor inductive loads, although since induction hobs apparently don't put inductive loads on the grid, maybe not anything commonly found in the home
cobalt fern
because there are some non-motor inductive loads, although since induction hobs ...
yeah i'm not putting an ikea plug in between my 15A induction cooktop, but i would like it on my fridge and freezer so HA can tell me when they stop showing a power draw, i don't even want the button i just want to monitor a plug without finding an australian compliant shelly-like to shove in the wall
also you were the only thread about the inspelning so i kinda latched on, seemed adjacent enough
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Yeah I don't mind