Am i the only one with this bug. | Home Assistant | Page 1

jolly badger Jan 3, 2025, 10:58 PM

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My LLM agents ollama and google AI always run local intents no matter what the setting. Anyone else with this issue?

https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/134408#issuecomment-2568622550

jolly badger Jan 6, 2025, 11:28 PM

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Poke. Anyone Not having this bug i would like to know.

odd spruce Jan 7, 2025, 12:12 AM

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Haven't really noticed it

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Reading the thread i think there's a misunderstanding. That switch there doesn't stop the llm from running local intents or scripts, it sets whether or not hassil runs first.

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Ie does it try to match intents that are defined first, then fall back to the llm.

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The llm could still decide to call the local scripts. Can't really tell what you are trying to do from the video though.

jolly badger Jan 7, 2025, 5:15 AM

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It is set to do not run local commands. I trigger a local command when its off.

odd spruce Jan 7, 2025, 12:02 PM

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Like, a local intent? Or just something local in general?

jolly badger Jan 7, 2025, 12:31 PM

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Local automation

odd spruce Jan 7, 2025, 12:44 PM

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Yeah so that switch doesn't prevent an LLM from accessing any scripts, automations, etc if it wants to. All that switch does is decide if it should try to match an intent on the intent parser first before going to the LLM.

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If you wan an LLM that is not allowed to touch anything in your home, you change that in the conversation agent

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No control will make it so the LLM can not access any devices, tools, scripts, entities, etc that are in home assistant.

jolly badger Jan 19, 2025, 7:05 PM

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Yes then why is the automation started with no control?

odd spruce Jan 20, 2025, 2:41 PM

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Do you have sentence triggers defined for the automation? If it is something that can be triggered by a sentence/intent that it can trigger from speech regardless of the LLM.

jolly badger Jan 20, 2025, 3:23 PM

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No the automations are not added to the AI system.

odd spruce Jan 20, 2025, 3:44 PM

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Yes but I mean do they have intents or sentence triggers

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Those operate outside of AI/LLM, they are in the intent engine that is HA itself

jolly badger Jan 20, 2025, 3:50 PM

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Yes the automation has a sentence trigger

odd spruce Jan 20, 2025, 4:11 PM

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Yeah so it is possible/likely it is triggering because you are speaking a sentence that matches the trigger, so the local HA intent parser is triggering it instead of the LLM. 🙂

jolly badger Jan 20, 2025, 4:31 PM

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Isnt that what the switch should prevent?

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Well it did

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And now it doesnt

jolly badger Jan 20, 2025, 7:15 PM

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I know it did because i had one in beta with the bug and a other ha with out beta

odd spruce Jan 20, 2025, 7:22 PM

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so the switch, when ON, says to send everything to HASSIL (local intent parser) first, and THEN to the LLM. With it off, everything always goes to the LLM and never to HASSIL. Then, the settings in the LLM integration take over from there; if the LLM allows assist control and the automation is exposed to it, it may use it. If the automation is not exposed to the LLM, or if in your LLM integration you have set it to no control, then it wouldn't be able to call the automation.

#Am i the only one with this bug.