How do you name your devices?

[frosty socket]

I just got voice preview and no matter what I try it won't open "bedroom blind" even though the device has "blind" in the name and is in the bedroom.

It works with "cover" though, but... they're not called that. Any tips?

I've been naming my devices "Bedrom Blind", "Living Room Sonos" .etc

[verbal atlas]

Is the device exposed to assist?

[frosty socket]

Yes, it works when I say "bedroom cover". They're IKEA tradfri blinds.

I tried adding "blind" and "blinds" as an alias.

[verbal atlas]

It's possible the intent engine is getting confused because bedroom is an area and also part of your device name

Have you tried it in the assist parser in dev tools and seeing what it tries to do?

[frosty socket]

This is why I asked the question about naming conventions in general. I've been using Home Assistant since before it had easy to use areas so all my devices are named "{area} {device}"

[verbal atlas]

I have devices named like that as well and it doesn't seem to mess it up 😅

[frosty socket]

Oh, first I've heard of this. I was hoping for something like this.

[verbal atlas]

Yeah in dev tools there's an assist tab

That let's you enter a sentence and see what the intent parser interprets it as

[frosty socket]

OK, will try that...

I'll play around with the name

Is it important that display names are unique anymore, or can I have a "Blind" in each room?

(thanks for the help btw)

An interesting "Open the blind in the bedroom" works but "Open the bedroom blind" does not.

Is there anything I can do to teach it?

[verbal atlas]

Are you using llm agent or just ha agent?

And here's the intent for this: https://github.com/home-assistant/intents/blob/main/sentences/en/cover_HassTurnOn.yaml

Seems it may be like i said, this particular one is getting confused.

[fossil ermine]

You can have same name in different areas.

[frosty socket]

Fantastic, thanks. I'll try renaming a bunch of devices and see how it goes.

[frosty socket]

I'm using HA agent, maybe the HA cloud one? I'm on the trial.

My HA is running on a Pi 5, I probably can't run an LLM on that.

[fossil ermine]

There's no HA cloud agent, just cloud TTS and STT

[frosty socket]

OK thanks for clearing that up, I thought it was included. Not sure I need the cloud service at all then.

[fossil ermine]

Well STT/TTS from NabuCasa is great.
Also remote access...
Also dev support... 🙂

[frosty socket]

Remote access is great, but I’ve been using custom domains and reverse proxies.
I might keep it if I can add a family members home assistant to my account so they get remote access.

[steady delta]

that sentence is "open the bedroom blinds" (plular), whereas you said your device is named "bedroom blind". since it won't match by name, there is a domain: cover+device_class: blinds sentence it will match, but probably can't match the "bedroom blind" cover entity because it does not have the required device_class (blind)

[frosty socket]

Interesting... I'm so used to other assistants not caring about plurals that I hadn't thought of it. I'll play around with it.

Is there a way I can make my own intents so I can correct patterns like this myself?