#Ideal solution for plugs and automatization?

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lusty dove
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Hello,
I am completely new to HA and I am a bit overwhelmed by the sheer amount of options.

I want to do it right and not waste money. My requirement is this setup being offline. I don't want them to ping some 3rd party servers. Even for activation. It's my home, my stuff.

The main aspect I want to "smartify" is remote power plugs. Until now I used 433.92MHz remote sockets, but I would like to replace them with ON/OFF and energy monitoring capable ones.

Another thing I would love to do is Fingerbots. I have a few things that would be great for it. For example my speakers. Could I do an automated sequence that would turn a power plug ON and after like 2-4s it would trigger the Fingerbot to press a button on the speaker?

What would be the ideal protocol for this? Or even better, specific tips on products.
I am from the EU and sadly IKEA Inspelning plugs are out of stock in my region for months. The support doesn't have any info about new stock.

Another thing, right now I am running HA on a Syno NAS inside a VM as I have no spare Raspberry Pi. But if the solution requires for example a USB adapter, then I would buy another RPi or the HA Yellow.

Thanks a lot

If it's possible to integrate the 433.92MHz ones easily into HA as well, then that would be great of course.

short marsh
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personally for smart plugs i am a fan of shelly devices. i have a few of their wifi ones.
you can write an automation to power on delay then finger bot if you want to yes.
there is a thing called the "Bond Bridge" that allows you to integrate RF devices in the 300-450 MHz range. i havent done it myself but you could have a look into that

wet moth
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Hi @lusty dove,

My requirement is this setup being offline. I don't want them to ping some 3rd party servers. Even for activation

You are going to have a problem with that if you don't want to use RF433 any longer and you don't build all your own stuff from ESP32's.
Almost everything needs the cloud, or in order to get them off the clout you have to phone at least once to get cloud information to get them off the cloud.
Sorry to break your bubble. (There a very few exceptions...)
HA needs the cloud to install and to get updates, also. HA needs a clock (time of day) sync, which you can get from your local, but somewhere that has to be set using the cloud regularly so things work.

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Running HA completely divorced from the cloud generally gives users a poor user experience.

wild ivy
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Protocols are probably going to be the hardest thing to decide on starting out. In my option, ZigBee is probably the best for you due to its HUGE list of products and low cost. Do not go WiFi either because lots of WiFi devices will depend on the cloud. WiFi devices also tend to have much higher power requirements and can be be more expensive than ZigBee.

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Thread and Zwave are both options as well if you are willing to go high-end, but Zwave is the most expensive and has the least products BUT is super reliable. I use thread with my setup and so far it has been great as well but as it is new, bugs are common.

lusty dove
lusty dove
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Found the thread I remembered that talks about the ideal protocol for plugs:

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I looked into the Shelly plugs, but they only mention WiFi and Bluetooth. Seems like they most likely require their cloud.

wild ivy
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Bond bridge is also a good option if U don't want to spend money on new plugs

lusty dove
lusty dove
wild ivy