How do I adjust how long my light stays up for? | Home Assistant | Page 1

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 2:40 PM

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Is there any simple way to set how long it will stay up for the moment it's triggered?

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I'm trying to automate my alarm ring > LED strips turn on but I have no idea how do I adjust the duration of the LED strips

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 2:41 PM

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It's going to be hard to answer that

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How are you turning them off? What does your current automation look like?

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 2:42 PM

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I have 3 steps as of now.

When alarm rings
If my phone is home
then turn LED light on

ember anvilBOT Nov 28, 2024, 2:42 PM

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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language, and consider picking a longer expiry)
http://pastie.org/ (select YAML for the language)
https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 2:43 PM

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Ok how do I copy the YAML code for the entire automation instead of 1 by 1? Just so I know

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 2:43 PM

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Two options

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Look in automations.yaml

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Edit the automation, and in the top right use the YAML option

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 2:44 PM

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trigger: template
value_template: >-
{{now().strftime('%a %h %d %H:%M %Z %Y') ==
(((state_attr('sensor.chris_s24ultra_next_alarm', 'Time in Milliseconds') |
int / 1000) ) | timestamp_custom('%a %h %d %H:%M %Z %Y'))}}
condition: state
entity_id: device_tracker.chris_s24ultra
state: home
action: light.turn_on
metadata: {}
data:
kelvin: 6500
brightness_pct: 100
target:
device_id: eeef4e3977ade4d9de5b2e5fe4064351

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Am I doing this right?

ember anvilBOT Nov 28, 2024, 2:44 PM

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To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks.
```yaml
example: here
```
Don't forget you can edit your post rather than repeatedly posting the same thing.

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 2:44 PM

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Once you format it, maybe

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Unformatted that's just a blob of unreadable text

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 2:45 PM

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value_template: >-
  {{now().strftime('%a %h %d %H:%M %Z %Y') ==
  (((state_attr('sensor.chris_s24ultra_next_alarm', 'Time in Milliseconds') |
  int / 1000) ) | timestamp_custom('%a %h %d %H:%M %Z %Y'))}}
condition: state
entity_id: device_tracker.chris_s24ultra
state: home
action: light.turn_on
metadata: {}
data:
  kelvin: 6500
  brightness_pct: 100
target:
  device_id: eeef4e3977ade4d9de5b2e5fe4064351

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Sorry am I doing it right T_T im real new to this

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 2:46 PM

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That's not right 😄

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 2:46 PM

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trigger: template
value_template: >-
  {{now().strftime('%a %h %d %H:%M %Z %Y') ==
  (((state_attr('sensor.chris_s24ultra_next_alarm', 'Time in Milliseconds') |
  int / 1000) ) | timestamp_custom('%a %h %d %H:%M %Z %Y'))}}
condition: state
entity_id: device_tracker.chris_s24ultra
state: home
action: light.turn_on
metadata: {}
data:
  kelvin: 6500
  brightness_pct: 100
target:
  device_id: eeef4e3977ade4d9de5b2e5fe4064351

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 2:46 PM

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Look at the YAML option there

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Copying out the different pieces and pasting them one by one produces a mess that's broken

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 2:47 PM

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AHH omg that's how you do it

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 2:47 PM

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As I said ... top right 😉

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 2:48 PM

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mode: single
triggers:
  - trigger: template
    value_template: >-
      {{now().strftime('%a %h %d %H:%M %Z %Y') ==
      (((state_attr('sensor.chris_s24ultra_next_alarm', 'Time in Milliseconds')
      | int / 1000) ) | timestamp_custom('%a %h %d %H:%M %Z %Y'))}}
conditions:
  - condition: state
    entity_id: device_tracker.chris_s24ultra
    state: home
actions:
  - action: light.turn_on
    metadata: {}
    data:
      kelvin: 6500
      brightness_pct: 100
    target:
      device_id: eeef4e3977ade4d9de5b2e5fe4064351
  - if: []
    then: []

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Is this it?

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 2:48 PM

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That's it tada_animated

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 2:48 PM

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GOD damn I'm dumb

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 2:48 PM

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You're new to HA, that's not the same thing 😉

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You're only dumb if you keep repeating the same mistakes

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So, what's the goal for turning the lights off?

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 2:49 PM

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Well, I usually only need it for 45minutes before I leave home for work.

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So I only want it to be on for 45minutes

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 2:49 PM

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Well, that's a simple delay

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/scripts#wait-for-time-to-pass-delay

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If you want to be fancy you can wait for you to leave home:
https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/scripts#wait-for-a-trigger

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If you want to be real fancy you can add a timeout so that it turns off after 45 minutes regardless:
https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/scripts#wait-timeout

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 2:51 PM

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ornate pollen Well, that's a simple `delay`

Ok sorry I do have some questions regarding the first one. Aka Delay.

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How exactly does delay turns my LED strips off?

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 2:51 PM

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It doesn't

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It does exactly what it says in the docs

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It's a wait for time to pass

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That's all

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You put that before the action to turn off the lights...

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 2:52 PM

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AHHHHHHH

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 2:52 PM

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From the way you asked the question I'd assumed you'd worked out that the opposite of turning on a light was turning it off 😛

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 2:53 PM

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Is there any real reason why one will use wait timeout over delay?

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Oh shit, sorry was trying to do what you were doing

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 2:54 PM

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The timeout is for a wait_for_trigger

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So options are:

Blind delay
Turn off when you leave home, regardless of how long that takes
Turn off when you leave home, or after 45 minutes, whichever happens first

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All of which can be done in the automation that turns the lights on, or can be done in a separate automation entirely

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One automation is "simple", but fragile - if you restart HA during that time then the automation dies and the lights stay on

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 2:56 PM

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Ok, let me first try it out with the simple delay first.

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Hmmm, not working but let me try to troubleshoot first!

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Light doesn't even turn on 😛

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Ok I'm pretty lost here @ornate pollen

Am I doing anything wrong? Not very sure why does the alarm not trigger my strips.

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Ahh I found out why!

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  - condition: state
    entity_id: device_tracker.chris_s24ultra
    state: home

how does this code work? how does it know if I'm "Home" or not? Do I have to indicated where's home somewhere?

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 3:14 PM

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bright igloo Ok I'm pretty lost here <@332579266623438848> Am I doing anything wrong? Not v...

Well... to be blunt, how the hell can we help if you don't share the current automation?

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 3:14 PM

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bright igloo ```conditions: - condition: state entity_id: device_tracker.chris_s24ultra...

Look in States

ember anvilBOT Nov 28, 2024, 3:14 PM

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Developer tools: states

Open your Home Assistant instance and show your state developer tools

proven hamlet Nov 28, 2024, 3:17 PM

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bright igloo ```conditions: - condition: state entity_id: device_tracker.chris_s24ultra...

That comes from location tracking on your phone. That entity is from the companion app and that controls whether or not your phone is in the home zone or not.

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 3:26 PM

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proven hamlet That comes from location tracking on your phone. That entity is from the compan...

I got you, I shifted my Home to the correct spot. Now both my phone and my "Home" is at the same spot.

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But it still doesn't trigger my strips if I have the condition in

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alias: Wakeup Light
description: ""
triggers:
  - trigger: template
    value_template: >-
      {{now().strftime('%a %h %d %H:%M %Z %Y') ==
      (((state_attr('sensor.chris_s24ultra_next_alarm', 'Time in Milliseconds')
      | int / 1000) ) | timestamp_custom('%a %h %d %H:%M %Z %Y'))}}
conditions:
  - condition: state
    entity_id: device_tracker.chris_s24ultra
    state: home
actions:
  - action: light.turn_on
    metadata: {}
    data:
      kelvin: 6500
      brightness_pct: 100
    target:
      device_id: eeef4e3977ade4d9de5b2e5fe4064351
  - delay:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 0
      seconds: 10
      milliseconds: 0
  - action: light.turn_off
    metadata: {}
    data: {}
    target:
      device_id: eeef4e3977ade4d9de5b2e5fe4064351
mode: single

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 3:26 PM

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Does the automation run at all? What does the trace show?

ember anvilBOT Nov 28, 2024, 3:27 PM

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To test an automation there's three stages you can follow. Testing the action, the condition and action, and the whole automation:

Use Configuration -> Automations to find the automation and then select Run in the three dots menu. If this fails your problem is in the action: section, and details should be found in your log file
Use Developer tools -> Services and call automation.trigger on the automation with skip_condition: false. If the first passes but this fails then the problem is in your condition: block
Use Developer tools -> States to find the trigger entity, click the name, then change the state (at the top) to something that'll trigger the automation before pushing Set State. If this fails then the problem is with your trigger: section, or the automation is turned off (you can check that in Automations, automations that are turned off will show Disabled)

You can also see this section in the docs about testing and automation traces.

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 3:28 PM

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ornate pollen Does the automation run at all? What does the trace show?

It runs but it's returning not_home to me

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 3:29 PM

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That entity is not_home then

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Have you checked?

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 3:29 PM

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In the "Map" settings I'm exactly at the same spot as well.

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 3:29 PM

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Have you actually checked?

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The pretty map is just a pretty map - the only thing that matters is the state of the entity

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 3:30 PM

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ornate pollen Have you checked?

I don't quite get this part, where do I check this? Under the entities tab?

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 3:30 PM

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#1311703248863760434 message

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Already explained there 😉

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 3:33 PM

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T_T I just got this 4 hours ago, I have 0 idea what are you asking me to check.

Check "Home" under Dev>States? What am I trying to see here?

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 3:33 PM

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Find the entity there

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It'll show the current state

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 3:35 PM

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ornate pollen Find the entity there

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 3:37 PM

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No, the device_tracker entity 😉

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That's the one you're testing in the condition after all

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 3:38 PM

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Yes it's there as well.

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 3:38 PM

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Great

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And?

proven hamlet Nov 28, 2024, 3:39 PM

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You want to go lower, not the set state accordian, you just want to see the current state

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 3:40 PM

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OK I have no idea what went wrong but it's working now ( I did not change anything after the last time it failed )

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 3:40 PM

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The last time your device_tracker was not_home

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This time it's not

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 3:41 PM

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ornate pollen The last time your `device_tracker` was `not_home`

Yeah I figured but I have no idea why did that happen >.<

proven hamlet Nov 28, 2024, 3:41 PM

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You said you changed your Home zone location ... I'm not exactly sure if changing the coords of the zone would trigger device_tracker updates, so it very well might've just updated the location again and picked up the new zone info.

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 3:41 PM

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proven hamlet You said you changed your Home zone location ... I'm not exactly sure if changin...

Yeah that's what I thought as well but it didn't work the first time I after I changed it haha

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Apperciate the help though @ornate pollen , I just had no idea what was I supposed to click and check stuff

proven hamlet Nov 28, 2024, 3:45 PM

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It's the filterable table below where you screenshotted. It's helpful to be able to see the actual state and attributes of your entities because this isn't the last time you'll be asking why something isn't working

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But ... be careful pasting something like that with something that has GPS tracking, since they may have detailed GPS coords

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 3:46 PM

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proven hamlet It's the filterable table below where you screenshotted. It's helpful to be abl...

I understand now but what are you guys looking out for? If I even have the entity/state there?

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Just to understand a little more.

proven hamlet Nov 28, 2024, 3:47 PM

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To confirm the state of your tracker was not_home

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Then it's clearly not an automation issue, but a why is your device not reporting you at home issue

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 3:48 PM

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Because of #1311703248863760434 message

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 3:48 PM

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AHHH

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I see it now

ornate pollen Nov 28, 2024, 3:48 PM

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You thought it should be at home, so I wanted you to go and look and see for yourself that HA wasn't wrong 😉

bright igloo Nov 28, 2024, 3:51 PM

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ornate pollen You thought it should be at home, so I wanted you to go and look and see ***for ...

I understand it now!

#How do I adjust how long my light stays up for?