#Third Reality Bulbs Question

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weak rune
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I just noticed that Third reality now have zigbee bulbs. Im curious to see if anyone got it and tried it.

weak rune
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No comments?

weak rune
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Third Reality Bulbs Question

vocal atlas
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I didn’t know they had bulbs, so your post inspired me to pick up a few. I’ll post back when after I get them and have had a chance to play with them for a bit.

weak rune
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Me either until I went to website for documentation. I noticed it when i looked under category and I saw bulb. Pun intended. The bulb came on my head.

mighty creek
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@sinful raft is using some as of yesterday, not sure if he has initial thoughts on them yet.

static burrow
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I just ordered 8,

sinful raft
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Colors are fine, brightness is fine. Control through HA seems fine as long as your mesh is good. They do need an update right out of the box. Effects on the bulbs are kind of crap and no custom effects. For price vs quality they are a solid deal so far.

jade tapir
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How hot do they get?

sinful raft
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no idea. i am using them for my outside lights which are in a coach style fixture

thorny ember
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hmm, looks like a good alternative to the ikea rgb bulbs, where available. for my use i'd prefer a brighter tunable white bulb over an rgb bulb, tho.

sinful raft
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These are 800 lum which are comparable to a 60w. I use these as my outdoor porch lights and had to reduce the brightness down to be closer to a 40w

weak rune
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@static burrow Got the bulbs yet?

static burrow
static burrow
weak rune
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Oh? What about brightness?

static burrow
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Using normal light colors(2700k to 6000k) they are fine, when doing just 1 color they aren't super bright but work great for my purposes

thorny ember
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yeah, that's pretty typical for this sort of bulb; they're designed to do bright whites for general lighting and the colors are intended for accent lighting. Usually the brightest available lighting will be at some intermediate white color temp (often around 4000k) where it's running both sets of white leds at the same time.

static burrow
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There is no yellow to speak of, but I know that's hard with LEDs

thorny ember
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that's actually kind of odd, you can get a pretty decent yellow by mixing red and green leds.

static burrow
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I know I read somewhere that the bulbs need an upgrade so I'll check back when z2m upgrades them

weak rune
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Interesting!!

thorny ember
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fwiw, my ikea color bulb can't do proper green/aqua colors, no idea why. everything between about lime green and royal blue on the color wheel just gives a kinda greenish or blueish white.

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but if you have a good looking green and a good looking red, it should be able to do yellow :/

weak rune
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At least, right out of the gate, they are doing well to add bulbs to their line. So they need time to mature

static burrow
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It's almost as thought the red isn't working when doing yellow, first shot is green, second is red

thorny ember
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camera auto color balance is probably messing those shots up quite a bit :/

static burrow
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My eyechromiter says green and yellow look similar though

thorny ember
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(the color fringes around the bulb in the shots are probably meaningless, just overexposure on the camera sensor)

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from the camera shots, it does look like it's mixing a bit of white in with the green for "yellow", but it's hard to tell especially with other white lights on nearby.

static burrow
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there are no other lights on nearby in that picture other then behind me

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oh and to the left 🙂

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I'm happy for 7.50 a bulb shipped though

thorny ember
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do you know if the colors are being sent to the bulb as x,y or as hue,saturation?

static burrow
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looks like support states are color_temp and xy?

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min_color_temp_kelvin: 2000
max_color_temp_kelvin: 6493
min_mireds: 154
max_mireds: 500
effect_list: blink, breathe, okay, channel_change, finish_effect, stop_effect, colorloop, stop_colorloop
supported_color_modes: color_temp, xy
effect: null
color_mode: xy
brightness: 255
color_temp_kelvin: null
color_temp: null
hs_color: 56.693, 99.608
rgb_color: 255, 241, 1
xy_color: 0.46, 0.503
friendly_name: Living Room Window Light
supported_features: 44

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Thats yellow

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Updating firmware, will report back once done

static burrow
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That's with no ambient light, so I think some improvement first yellow, second green

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This room isn't white, and just a cell phone camera

thorny ember
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yeah, hard to tell from the photos. the room might be bright yellow, and the auto white balance in the camera will make it look white :)

static burrow
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But definitely looks improved with firmware

thorny ember
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yeah - with xy color mode, the firmware is given an "absolute" color in a sort of univeral color space, and it has to figure out what the closest match it can do is using the colors it has available. so firmware tweaking can make quite a difference.

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iirc home assistant's color picker works in sRGB, then converts the result to xy color (there's a standard formula for this), then it's up to the bulb to color match that as closely as possible.

static burrow
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I did the 4 pack on amazon, for $29 dollar US, it shipped from China ordered on 11-20, so not bad shipping at all

weak rune
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I know you did them in z2m but how does it look in zha?

static burrow
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I don't run ZHA, so I can't tell you

weak rune
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ah

jade tapir
sinful raft
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the only possible difference in what options you get presented with in HA

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this is z2m

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no idea what you will see under zha