little oasis
I am looking for a automation solution for when two specific users are not home to trigger an automation.
I am a little lost on what I should use.
I would assume I am looking for a state of Home or nothome on each person
I am attempting to do it via UI, assume such a basic thing would be there.
I could tie it to device, but to not have to change it in the future I would rather use person.Name
fast osprey
Group them, and use the group? That'd be YAML.
A template binary sensor could be done in the UI though
fickle forge
I use zone.home == 0 rather than person entities. You can do this with a numeric_state trigger with the zone as the entity.
little oasis
I use `zone.home == 0` rather than person entities. You can do this with a numer...
But that's when nobody is present right? Or per person?
I need per person
fickle forge
That’s when no one is present. Sorry. I completely missed the first sentence. (Not the first time that’s happened lol).
Yeah, you’ll want home/not_home on the person entities.
little oasis
That’s when no one is present. Sorry. I completely missed the first sentence. (N...
And is that a vanilla ui feature?
fickle forge
Not sure what you mean... like, testing is a person is home or away?
little oasis
Not sure what you mean... like, testing is a person is home or away?
Creating an automation from the UI
Without using yaml.
little oasis
Does that trigger only when yout state changes?
fickle forge
Yes
little oasis
Yes
Is there any to to trigger when:
David is away & Joan is away.
Rather then:
David has went away & Joan has went away. (Wouldn't trigger if Joan went away first)
fickle forge
You could use a template trigger for that.
{{ not states('person.dave', 'home') and not states('person.joan', 'home') }}
I wouldn't use away as state only because if you have zones setup and they are in one of those zones, the state would be the zone name and not just away or not_home.
little oasis
I feel like that should be something that's possible to set up from the UI :X
But thank you very much, looking at that code it looks like what I was looking for
fickle forge
You can do it in the UI using a template trigger.
You don't have to drop to YAML to do it.
little oasis
I know that, I mean not even using templates
fickle forge
Ahhhh... Well, you could try something with conditions. So, have both of them as triggers and then in the conditions, add both of them as being away. That could also work, but it feels convoluted and messy. A simple template trigger does wonders.
little oasis
Ahhhh... Well, you _could_ try something with conditions. So, have both of them ...
Will test it tomorrow when no one is home.
little oasis
description: Turns off the lights when Pavla and Sam are away.
triggers:
- trigger: template
value_template: >-
{{ not states('person.pavla_mottlova', 'home') and not states('person.samuel_john_king', 'home') }}
for:
hours: 0
minutes: 30
seconds: 0
conditions: []
actions:
- action: light.turn_off
metadata: {}
data: {}
target:
floor_id: upstairs
mode: single
That does not seem to trigger.
fickle forge
Interesting... if you run that template through dev tools > template editor, what does it return with?
little oasis
false
This template listens for the following state changed events:
Entity: person.pavla_mottlova```both of us are at 'work' zones
fast osprey
states('person.pavla_mottlova', 'home') ❌
is_state('person.pavla_mottlova', 'home') ✅
fast osprey
Tsk tsk... (not that I've never got templates wrong)
little oasis
that returns true now =]
fickle forge
lol I banged that out yesterday sitting in a meeting 😉
little oasis
I tried gpt. it claimed everything was wrong except that 😄
fickle forge
yeah, gpt is often wrong
little oasis
'home assistant gpt, some addon thing'
it has helped me a lot with photoshop scripts