So I have an Apple TV 4K 3rd gen, it is added as a thread border router and I was able to add it as my preferred network. I am running matter in a docker container. I just got a new device today, it is an onvis 5 key switch (HS2) which is supposed to work on thread. I don’t really understand the relationship between thread and matter. I have the matter integration added to hass. I was easily able to add it to apple home and it popped over to be added into hass. I thought I could add it via the matter integration and the iOS companion app though. What is the best path forward for starting to build a thread/matter network?
#First matter / thread device
kindred furnace
pastel ledge
@kindred furnace Awesome. Thanks. I did get it added. Unfortunately, button one always does a pressedx1, all the other buttons report a long press. I get the state of thread matter is beta, just curious where to create an issue. Also, am I correct that thread works without matter but matter needs thread?
I have been a long time zwave guy, prepping for the future to try and figure out matter/thread
pearl glade
thread and matter are kind of independent. thread is a wireless mesh standard that provides an ipv6 network, and different protocols can run on top of it (e.g. both homekit and matter can run on top of thread). matter is a standard for talking to home automation devices, but it can run on any ipv6 network. matter devices can be wifi, thread, or even wired ethernet.
kindred furnace
<@461603794090852353> Awesome. Thanks. I did get it added. Unfortunately, button...
This device isn't supposed to run Matter so I think this is a homekit device ?
Yeah, this is a homekit over Thread device so not Matter at all. A Matter device would have the Matter logo on the packaging (and marketing terms) - there can also be a Thread or WiFi logo but that is, like @pearl glade said above just the radio transport.
pastel ledge
Auh, thanks. I purchased a gen 3 Apple TV and after install and added to hass I noticed it had thread. Didn’t realize it when I purchased it. Once I installed the thread integration, hass said the matter integration was available. Took me a while to figure out I needed to to have a matter server. If I was able to get this https://github.com/home-assistant-libs/python-matter-server up and running and the hass mater integration installed, does that mean my matter container is properly config’d or will I not know until I try and add a matter device?
late frigate
everything is broken until you test it 🙂
(but those are the settings i use and its fine, so if it does break its probably a case of re-checking all the sysctl's and then its time to blame your network hardware)
pastel ledge
@late frigate so I am still trying to find a device that I can test my matter setup with. I think where I am confused is I do not have a matter hub like my zwave controller. So am I correct in thinking that the device I buy will need to connect to the matter integration through either WiFi or thread?
full pawn
So, you have a Matter setup without Matter devices?
Yes, your assumption is correct. For Thread you need a Thread radio (e.g. HA SkyConnect, HA Connect ZBT-1) or any 3rd party Thread Border Router).