#Home Assistant setup in new apartment with existing devices. Throw them out? Integrate?

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fickle cradle
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Hi guys,
I just moved to my new apartment from old one where i was running few aqara door/window sensors, aqara flood sensors, temperature and few other xiaomi devices (vacuum,air purifier). To be honest it wasn't running that great as constantly at least one zigbee device was offline, but it was somewhat working. With wifi there was no issues, but i know that wifi isn't that great for sensors with battery. As my new apartment is bigger and have more devices like smart ventilation. 2 fujitsu air conditioners with wifi, 4 roller shades running shelly wifi, garage gates, water softener and garder watering systems, I want to integrate this together with Home Assistant and i don't need to stay with aqara/ zigbee enabled system. Apartment has 2 floors with 50 square meters per floor and solid walls, so my range of my xiami smart hub will be questioned. Which sensors are not the most expensive and reliable? Shouild I go with matter, stay with zigbee or go with zwave? I've heard some good opinions about zwave in terms of reliability and range, but it doesn't seem future proof. My wifi setup consists of 2x u7-pro on each floor. What's your take on this? Your help will be greatly appreciated!

unborn salmon
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Zigbee is fine, simply add (Zigbee) routers

fickle cradle
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another xiaomi smart hub or something else?

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from what i understand, I also need usb dongle to use zigbee devices in HA

unborn salmon
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I'd go with ZHA and a coordinator rather than any shitty hub

fickle cradle
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but those coordinators can be connected to pc only, right?

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so this hub which i own is basically useless in HA setup?

unborn salmon
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Or connected to the (wired) network

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And yes, hubs are largely pointless papeweights

fickle cradle
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Do You recommend any coordinators which are working with HA? I'm not sure which are and which aren't.

unborn salmon
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TL/DR: Tube and SMLight

fickle cradle
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i've found some coordinators, but it seems that all of them are diy-like

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okay, thanks!

fickle cradle
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@unborn salmon if i want additional coordinators in my house, do i need additional software on every pc where dongle is connected?

unborn salmon
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No

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One mesh == one coordinator

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Many meshes == bad

fickle cradle
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so what can i do to extend range?

unborn salmon
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simply add (Zigbee) routers

fickle cradle
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ah, i linked coordinators with routers

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thanks for clarification

unborn salmon
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Those aren't the same 😉

robust shoal
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Let's be clear on one thing - nothing is truly 'future proof' but there are better bets than others. I personally use WiFi and Z-Wave. Both have been around long enough to be mature, but not so long as to be obsolete. Many folks use Zigbee cause (let's be honest) it's often cheaper than Z-Wave but not as power-hungry as WiFi but sometimes there are compatibility issues. So - you are always placing a bet with something. Personally, matter/thread are not nearly mature enough.

fickle cradle
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Okay, for starters i just bought SLZB-06M

unborn salmon
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Also, when it comes to "future proof"... nothing is, not really, other than HA

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If you can connect (integrate) it to HA then it works with anything else in HA

fickle cradle
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i just want to have as small list of integrations, dongles as i can

unborn salmon
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As long as you have local access, no cloud crap, no manufacturer hub, then they can't take it away from you

fickle cradle
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it seems that this dongle i just bought fits my needs

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as it can work with matter and zigbee

unborn salmon
fickle cradle
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yeah, but sometimes there are too many "moving parts"

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more things to break during upgrades

unborn salmon
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That's only likely if you use third party stuff, like Alexa Media Player, that's no longer supported

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I don't remember the last year I had things break on update

fickle cradle
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i work as sysadmin and some solutions have so many moving parts that it's sometimes nightmare to perform an upgrade 😛

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i want flexibility but still keeping it simple

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ah, so simply zigbee routers are devices powered from power outlet

native pebble
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(with some exceptions - there's a few smart bulbs out there which don't act as routers)

unborn salmon
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Sengled only as far as I know