I would like to install a “But only if” with a brightness sensor. But unfortunately I don't get the status displayed. Do you know a possibility?
#light control
gaunt marten
timid meteor
Just type in the word “dim” or “bright” since that’s what your sensor returns.
gaunt marten
doesn't it have to be selectable? so that it works
timid meteor
Yeah, the UI doesn’t always know what the values are for sensors. Typing it in works.
This is common for sensors that are added through Z2M.
timid meteor
Well, the UI doesn’t know what the values are to be able to display them. It will still recognize the values when the automation fires, it’s just a UI thing.
You mean the from: section? That’s only used if you want something to be in a state for “length of time”. So, I want motion to be cleared for 5 minutes, that would be done with a for: value.
This says that motion should be cleared for 45 seconds.
gaunt marten
i have now tried it with the “bright” condition, but the light does not go on
timid meteor
Show me what you have.
gaunt marten
I have set something wrong
timid meteor
Yup. 🙂 Show me and I can probably point it out.
gaunt marten
alias: Eingang EG Licht Steuerung
description: ""
trigger:
- platform: state
entity_id:- binary_sensor.bewegungsmelder_eingang_eg_occupancy
to: "on"
condition:
- binary_sensor.bewegungsmelder_eingang_eg_occupancy
- condition: state
entity_id: sensor.bewegungsmelder_eingang_eg_illumination
attribute: illumination
state: bright
action: - action: light.turn_on
metadata: {}
data:
brightness_pct: 100
brightness_step_pct: 10
transition: 20
target:
device_id: ae70bfd1a0fef4a177b7c4fef002d8f9 - wait_for_trigger:
- platform: state
entity_id:- binary_sensor.bewegungsmelder_eingang_eg_occupancy
from: "off"
for:
hours: 0
minutes: 0
seconds: 30
mode: single
- binary_sensor.bewegungsmelder_eingang_eg_occupancy
- platform: state
timid meteor
Hold on, I can give you something better.
gaunt marten
giving is good but I have to learn to understand it so that I don't have to ask about every little thing 😅
Is that wrong?
the light should not go on all at once, but slowly change from dark to light
timid meteor
alias: Eingang EG Licht Steuerung
description: ""
trigger:
- platform: state
entity_id:
- binary_sensor.bewegungsmelder_eingang_eg_occupancy
from: "off"
to: "on"
id: motion_on
- platform: state
entity_id:
- binary_sensor.bewegungsmelder_eingang_eg_occupancy
from: "on"
to: "off"
for:
hours: 0
minutes: 0
seconds: 30
condition:
- condition: state
entity_id: sensor.bewegungsmelder_eingang_eg_illumination
state: "bright"
action:
- if:
- condition: trigger
id:
- motion_on
then:
- action: light.turn_on
data:
brightness_pct: 100
brightness_step_pct: 10
transition: 20
target:
device_id: ae70bfd1a0fef4a177b7c4fef002d8f9
else:
- action: light.turn_off
target:
device_id: ae70bfd1a0fef4a177b7c4fef002d8f9
mode: restart
That should work a lot better.
gaunt marten
I'm testing it 😅
timid meteor
🙂
timid meteor
You mean when the sensor triggers, it doesn’t turn on the light?
gaunt marten
nop
timid meteor
Look at the trace (Traces button at the top)
I suspect that your bulb may not support transitions like that.
gaunt marten
from dark to light?
timid meteor
Yeah, dimming up like that with a transition. Not all bulbs support that.
gaunt marten
it can be dimmed
timid meteor
You can test it by removing the brightness_step and transition properties from the light.turn_on action.
gaunt marten
yes it works
but I don't like i
timid meteor
Ok, try adding the transition back in.
gaunt marten
then I have to send them back and get others
timid meteor
Maybe… what kind of bulbs are they?
timid meteor
Ahhhhh, Ledvance… not “great”, but also not “bad”. They’re kind of like “ish” in terms of bulbs and support.
I’m not sure if they actually support transitions though.
gaunt marten
I have activated it again, it remains off
timid meteor
What does the trace show?
gaunt marten
timid meteor
What is in the 3rd tab: Trace Zeit…
gaunt marten
timid meteor
Ok, that means that the detection timeout is too low. Try setting the from: to something like a minute.
gaunt marten
?
timid meteor
Hmmmm… Did the light come on when you triggered the motion?
gaunt marten
without timer yes
should I now enter 60 seconds?
timid meteor
Yeah, set it to be a bit longer. IIRC, the sensor has a built-in timeout default of 30 seconds.
gaunt marten
i have
nothing
but i don't understand why i can dim them but not control them in steps via an automatzion?
timid meteor
but i don't understand why i can dim them but not control them in steps via an a...
It’s because of how transition works in Zigbee. Not all bulbs support it properly. This is due to how manufacturers build their firmware.
gaunt marten
that has to work otherwise I really only have to swap 😔
I have also ordered others for my hallway because they need an E14 socket
gaunt marten
why
timid meteor
They have major issues with stability and performance. OSRAM are pretty much the worst bulbs you could buy.
Besides Tuya bulbs.
gaunt marten
which one should I buy for E14 and E27 sockets?
timid meteor
Depending on your budget, I’d look at Innr bulbs or if you want the best, Hues. You could also use IKEA bulbs too.
timid meteor
I’m not sure if Hue does E-14. I’m pretty sure ikea does though.
gaunt marten
where are you from
timid meteor
I’m in the US
gaunt marten
you have ikea?
timid meteor
Yup. There’s one 30 minutes drive from me.
gaunt marten
nice 😅
timid meteor
lol sometimes. Not nice when I have to pay though. 🤣
gaunt marten
at ikea i just don't see which wireless standard they use
gaunt marten
ah, they have them after all 😄
but expensive, just for the little bit of technology inside?
you can get them cheap 🤓
so I have to buy phillips
timid meteor
Yeah. But Hue bulbs are worth it. Some of mine are over 7 years old and still work perfectly. Some of my cheaper bulbs have died way sooner than others
gaunt marten
then this is what I will do now
too bad, I thought I could set up everything for the WE, but this way I don't learn anything new
timid meteor
Yeah, welcome to home automation. Lol. I’ve been doing this for 10+ years and I’m still learning things and buying things.
gaunt marten
something is wrong, the light no longer goes out in the dark
the motion detector remains on light, but it should have indicated dark by now
that makes no sense at all, it is bright and it shows dim
it is the condition that is the problem. it cannot cope with the illumination. if i remove the condition, it works
gaunt marten
i guess a lux sensor would be advantageous for efficient control?
timid meteor
Sorry! Didn’t see these yesterday. Yeah, I’d go with something that actually reports lux values and not just a string.
gaunt marten
what would you recommend?
timid meteor
Either the Philips Hue motion sensor (expensive, but top of the line) or the Aqara P1 (cheaper, but slightly less in terms of detection speed).
I have both and honestly, I LOVE the Aqara P1s. They are tiny and easily able to be mounted in all sorts of clever ways. I use two of them under my bed for my underbed lighting.
gaunt marten
one single measuring point would be enough for all of them
timid meteor
But the Hue motion sensors are also ROCK SOLID and can take a lot of abuse. I have one in my shower that’s been there for a few years now getting splashed with water and steam and it’s never died on me ever.
Start with the P1 then and if that doesn’t meet your needs, grab a Hue.
gaunt marten
so i guess it will have to be hue if, for example, a dark weather frot comes during the day, it has to be recognized within vin minutes
timid meteor
The P1 can do that without a problem. It just doesn’t have the same PIR detection speed of the Hue. Well, it does, but it defaults to a 30 second timeout whereas the Hue can go down to something like 5 seconds.
Both of them report lux changes in seconds (usually less than a second in most cases).
gaunt marten
well, 30 seconds is not the world😅
timid meteor
Exactly. The other thing with the P1 versus the Hue is that the P1 is a Zigbee1.2 sensor. So, it is really picky about what routing devices it will connect to. I’m not sure how it will do with Sonoffs, tbh. The Hue is a Zigbee3.0 device and is much more forgiving in that sense.
gaunt marten
You mean compatible?
timid meteor
(I know I’m throwing a lot of technical info at you, but since you’re just starting out, better to learn now than buy something else that you would need to return or repurpose).
Not “compatible”… Let me think of how to explain in more generic terms…
Ok, so your sensor connects to a routing device. The routing device takes the messages from the sensor and relays them up to the coordinator (your USB stick) which then instructs the software (Z2M or ZHA) what the sensor is reporting. Does that make sense?
gaunt marten
i understand what you are saying, is it because of the translation from english into german 😄
timid meteor
Gotcha. Yeah, I’m trying to be as clear as I can because of the translation. lol
gaunt marten
Ok, so your sensor connects to a routing device. The routing device takes the me...
yes
yes but deepl.com is a better translator than google i think
i had a look at amazon. i guess there is an updated version?
timid meteor
Ok. So, in Zigbee1.2 devices, routing was done in some strange ways and Aqara programmed their sensors to only communicate in specific ways with THEIR hardware. They didn’t want people using their sensors with just anyone’s hardware (more money for them).
timid meteor
i had a look at amazon. i guess there is an updated version?
Of the Aqara P1 motion sensor? There is. But they are really hard to find and they are mostly matter over thread devices now.
gaunt marten
timid meteor
The P1, being a Zigbee1.2 device, still doesn’t like using just anyone’s hardware. But, they’ve made changes that make it more compatible today. Better to still sell a sensor than not at all. Because of this, some routing devices are more compatible than others.
timid meteor
Yeah, that is what my statement ^^^ means. They updated the P1 to work with more routers than the original versions.
gaunt marten
the question is whether i would rather take the one from philips because it is “only” 10 € more expensive
timid meteor
That’s up to you, my friend… Personally, I love the Hue motion sensors, but I hate the prices. Thus I went with the Aqara sensors for cheaper, but I had to do a bit more planning when buying hardware because of them.
gaunt marten
I only need one. I have 6 Sonoff motion sensors and on monday there will be another Sonoff presence detector
timid meteor
Yeah, if you don’t mind spending the additional money, just go for the Hue. I guarantee it’ll work better than the Sonoff gear.
Again, I love the P1, but the Hue is better in almost every feature.
gaunt marten
I would also like to exchange the dongle for a Lan, because I can set it more centrally than the one I have now. The current one is on the second floor. i could place the lan in the middle of the first floor
gaunt marten
Yeah, if you don’t mind spending the additional money, just go for the Hue. I gu...
No, I'll just get one, I'll keep the rest with the sonoff, won't I? 😄
i created the 2 controls for the cellar last night. it was a struggle even without the lux sensor
the interesting thing is that i had taken your blue print and only took it out when but it didn't work
until I understood at some point that from -> to was relevant
Why do you use motion_on ?
timid meteor
It’s a trigger id. It allows for having a single automation for on/off. You don’t have to do that, it’s just easier for me. Less automations to manage.
I have a if block that I throw into actions that determines which trigger id was used and then does actions that way. If motion_on, turn on the lights, else, turn them off.
gaunt marten
I think less is good, I need it clear and not cluttered
timid meteor
Same. Without doing it that way, I’d have over 300 automations instead of 150.
gaunt marten
oh then i will ask you very, very, very often. i still have big plans for the house. From lights, sound to doors, then gates and lights away
timid meteor
lol absolutely! I’m happy to help and others here as well. I’m sometimes not the person to ask (for things like the dashboard, I’m not a good resource). But otherwise, if I don’t know, I will get other people involved that do.
gaunt marten
nice
gaunt marten
I would also like to exchange the dongle for a Lan, because I can set it more ce...
Did you read that?
gaunt marten
I would give the USB back, it doesn't suit the house.
timid meteor
Dongles are good for starting out. I almost always recommend lan-based coordinators though.
Some people agree with me on that, others don’t. But in my experience, a lan based coordinator does better in most cases. Not always, but most.
gaunt marten
Look at the values, I know they are not bad but I want to do it right from the start and have the antenna in the center of the house, but that is only possible via Lan port on the Fritzbox (AVM)
timid meteor
Don’t pay too much attention to the LQI. It’s a mostly meaningless number unless you are having problems. I have devices where the LQI has been less than 10 and the devices themselves work perfectly.
gaunt marten
The advantage of lan is that it can be laid all the way outside, so I can also send signals from outside. Especially as I'm planning to place a wifi antenna outside and that could also be done later with zigbee
timid meteor
Case in point.
gaunt marten
That may be right, but I want to build it properly
timid meteor
The advantage of lan is that it can be laid all the way outside, so I can also s...
Pretty much, yes. It allows you to put your coordinator in the center of your house and then have routing devices surrounding it.
timid meteor
That may be right, but I want to build it properly
We all do. 🙂 It took me a lot of trial and error to get things right.
gaunt marten
Which one should it be? 😄
and is it easier to integrate it into HA than the stupid usb dongel? 😄
The transmission power should be at least that of the usb dongle
timid meteor
and is it easier to integrate it into HA than the stupid usb dongel? 😄
Yes. Take a look at the SLZB-06P7 https://smlight.tech/product/slzb-06p7/. Or this one: https://tubeszb.com/product/efr32-mgm24-poe-coordinator/ (this is the one I have, but it requires you to have POE (or a POE injector)).
timid meteor
The transmission power should be at least that of the usb dongle
Not really. Transmission power is a complicated subject. So, if your coordinator has a lot of transmission power, it can broadcast out fine, but since you can’t adjust the sensor’s transmission power, the coordinator won’t hear the response. This is where having a lot of routing devices helps as they extend your mesh much further than what the coordinator can transmit at.
gaunt marten
I have a mesh for WLAN 2.4 and 5 ghz from AVM
timid meteor
As a reference, I have 117 Zigbee devices. Of those, over 50 of them are routing devices and the rest are end devices (sensors and such). I can keep my coordinator power low and my devices can all still talk to each other just fine.
timid meteor
I have a mesh for WLAN 2.4 and 5 ghz from AVM
That doesn’t matter with Zigbee (much).
gaunt marten
That's what I call günsitg but I honestly don't know what to think of ali express....
timid meteor
That one is fine. Lots of people order from Ali.
gaunt marten
yes i know that, but a mesh makes no sense with zigbee because the house is not that big now
gaunt marten
That one is fine. Lots of people order from Ali.
would only be there in a week's time
timid meteor
lol Zigbee is a mesh protocol. That’s how it works. Plus, my house is pretty small.
Eh, that’s fine. Unless you need it NOW. You might be able to order one from Amazon as well. I know they are available on US Amazon.
gaunt marten
there are 4 versions, which one should i use?
timid meteor
SLZB-06P7 (if you can). Otherwise, their P2 model is good as well.
gaunt marten
timid meteor
Yup. That’s the one!
gaunt marten
NOP 😅
timid meteor
Again, for reference, I ran on a P2 model for about 4 years. The P7 can handle a lot more devices.
lol translate that please?
Ohhhhh, not found on Amazon… Boo!
gaunt marten
gaunt marten
Ohhhhh, not found on Amazon… Boo!
yes, it's amazing that amazon sometimes does NOT have something 🤣
timid meteor
hahaha yeah… It gets annoying when you REALLY want something.
gaunt marten
has been ordered. I only hate amazon and want to avoid it but the prices are sometimes too good -.-
dude i can't pay via paypal wtf
Okay, I'm not getting it ordered.
timid meteor
Wait, what? That sucks. 😦
gaunt marten
it is apparently not available in germany
only aliexpress and I can't pay for it with them
i need an alternative from you please
gaunt marten
😄
DE: € 9,95 Yes Sir 😄
It worked 🥳
What do you think if we swap now, you translate now and I write in German 😅
German is a very important language, just like English ^^
i noticed another fault in the circuit, last night the light just came on and stayed on for 40 minutes. could you help me find out why?
timid meteor
Hmmm, what does the logbook entries show?
It might be that the motion sensor detected presence OR it went to unavailable. Although, the from: and to: in the automation should prevent that.
gaunt marten
yes where was that again?
timid meteor
Go to Logbook (in the sidebar) and then filter on the light.
gaunt marten
the?
it briefly recognized movement but for reasons the light did not go out with it
timid meteor
Might have been too fast. Or the other event didn’t fire for some reason.
gaunt marten
maybe a spider 😄
timid meteor
lol I’ve had bugs trigger my lights too… it’s annoying.
timid meteor
Eh, if it works for you, go for it. I don’t use blueprints myself.
gaunt marten
you also know how to write it
timid meteor
Exactly 🙂
gaunt marten
you clever little guy 😄
timid meteor
But, that’s after YEARS of learning and doing. It’s now second nature to me.
gaunt marten
I'd rather not ask how old you are 😄
do i only have to create an automatsion for each room or can these even be combined?
I now have 2 of them, one in the cellar and one in the entrance
timid meteor
You can combine as much as you want to. Personally, I break up my automations into rooms/areas.
timid meteor
I'd rather not ask how old you are 😄
Old 🙂 lol
gaunt marten
From your picture you don't seem to be that old when you watch Hazbin Hotel 😄
so could i put the light control under a single automatsion?
timid meteor
From your picture you don't seem to be that old when you watch Hazbin Hotel 😄
I’m the youngest old person you’ll meet. lol
gaunt marten
I’m the youngest old person you’ll meet. lol
30? 😄
timid meteor
so could i put the light control under a single automatsion?
Yup! You can do pretty much anything you want. It all depends on how complicated you want it to be.
gaunt marten
Yup! You can do pretty much anything you want. It all depends on how complicated...
so i don't want it to be complicated. i want it to be clear and yet easy to follow
timid meteor
so not at all like 14 years
lol everyone that knows me knows I’m just a big kid pretending to be an adult.
This is how I do it.
gaunt marten
I would never use Linux as an operating system for a PC, I would have to learn far too many new things. But what I like about Linux is that it is open source
timid meteor
I’m completely Linux. And also Mac for work.
gaunt marten
i never had so many problems with windos that i would have said i need a different operating system
do you have an old or a new house?
timid meteor
lol I stopped giving Microsoft free data years ago when they implemented tracking.
My house is old. Built in 1952.
gaunt marten
good, then i have enough hope to get the house here smart home fair 😄
timid meteor
Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, in my small, old house, EVERYTHING except for a few things is smart and automated.
The only things I really have left is the kitchen appliances.
gaunt marten
good that you mention it, i have a samungs fridge, how do i integrate it into ha? or at least the data it can give me
timid meteor
I think you can use the Smartthings integration for that.
gaunt marten
I hate it...
is of course not possible just like that
okay so i can't use smartthings, also good
timid meteor
Yeah, SmartThings is horrible, but I’m not sure of any other way to get it into HA.
gaunt marten
do you have your water consumption recorded?
timid meteor
Not yet. That’s on my list to do. But, the problem is that my water meter is far from the house, so I need to figure out a way to get around that.
gaunt marten
Mine is in the cellar but I'm not allowed to touch it
I would have to install a sensor after the counter
can this be done without inserting anything into the pipe, just something on the pipe?
timid meteor
timid meteor
You can always learn 🙂 But, iirc, that project requires neither of those things.
gaunt marten
i really do a lot but i don't go near electricity, childhood trauma 😄
What do you think?
timid meteor
Maybe? I don’t know… I’d have to see how it interfaces with HA.
gaunt marten
well it's the same as you sent only as a finished constructzioen
the price should be irrelevant now. i'm only interested in how
timid meteor
Huh, in that case, yeah, it should work! I didn’t know someone was selling built units. That’s kinda nice actually.
Sorry, I’ve been messing with this complicated template that is breaking my brain. lol
gaunt marten
Which one is it?
timid meteor
I’m trying to add a notification and a markdown card with my sleep data from last night. I’ve mostly got it, but I need to figure out a couple more pieces of it.
gaunt marten
does it have to be written like this or can i just write it in german?
Sleep data? do you mean when you got up or just moved around in bed?
timid meteor
Both. I use a Withings Sleep Mat in my bed, so I get all sorts of data about it.
timid meteor
does it have to be written like this or can i just write it in german?
It’s just a string that gets matched. German is fine there.
gaunt marten
It’s just a string that gets matched. German is fine there.
good but if i want to separate words does “_” have to be between them so that it can be read?
timid meteor
Nope. It can be whatever you want. If you want it to be “Motion On 123456789 test test test”, you could do that… or whatever the German equivalent of that is. lol
gaunt marten
did you understand the hyphen? 😄
timid meteor
lol yes… why?
gaunt marten
because i know that code's don't like gaps, i would now describe it si
yaml is different right?
timid meteor
It’s not really “code”. It’s just a string that gets matched. That’s all. If it was a sensor name or something like that, that’s different. But a trigger id is literally just a string. Nothing complicated.
gaunt marten
yaml was chosen because it is probably the easiest to understand?
timid meteor
yaml is different right?
Not for trigger ids, no.
Not really. YAML and Python commonly just work together.
gaunt marten
too complicated for me after all 😄
timid meteor
lol it just takes time to learn. It’s not complicated once you get the hang of it.
The worst part of YAML is figuring out indentation and what various characters do.
gaunt marten
you know that lol is from 2010 right? 😄 so oltshool 😄
no offense meant 😉
timid meteor
I’m old. Hush. hahaha I’ve been on the internet probably longer than you’ve been alive 😉
gaunt marten
so you're an old fart after all 😄
I can tell you that I am so old that in the year I was born the World Wide Web was published 😄
timid meteor
LMAO! Alright then! I don’t feel as old then. I’m turning 53 next year… I still identify as a 14 year old though.
gaunt marten
i think we keep digressing, it would probably be better to write privately than to spam DC here ^^
53 is the new 33, isn't it? ^^
One point that could still be relevant for me in HA is a weather station. Any experience with this? With my solar system I would like to try to consume electricity during the day when A there is no one around or B when most of the electricity is being produced. In the evening I have my 8.8 Kw storage but it makes more sense to let consumers run during the day (washing machine, pumps, etc.) Is of course still future but so I just want to use my PV system most sensibly.
light control and other automation
Also irrigation systems that save me water, not because I pay for the water, it's groundwater. I just want to have an ECO house. As efficient as possible
timid meteor
i think we keep digressing, it would probably be better to write privately than ...
lol it’s fine. Yeah, in my case… 14. 🤣
timid meteor
One point that could still be relevant for me in HA is a weather station. Any ex...
So, I use a LaCrosse View weather station. It’s cloud based, but works for what I need. I’m not sure what is available in Germany, but a lot of people seem to like Tempest stations. Plus, there are TONS of posts in the old read-only channels ( #1284966203026182206 ) that details out about integrating solar systems into HA and other stuff like that.
timid meteor
Also irrigation systems that save me water, not because I pay for the water, it'...
For irrigation, I use Rachio. Still a cloud service, but it works well.
gaunt marten
Cloud based you mean you have not set up a statzion but only onlein service
timid meteor
No, I have a local weather station mounted, but it pushes all of it’s data to the cloud and then I use that data in HA. It’s not a “local” service.
But the data that gets pushed to the cloud is all from my local weather station and rain sensors.
gaunt marten
isn't that a detour? Why did you decide against a local service?
timid meteor
I couldn’t find a weather station that wasn’t expensive (and didn’t require me to build it) and was completely local.
So, I took the easy way and just got a cloud connected one. It works well, tbh, but my internet rarely ever goes out.
gaunt marten
I understand. which one is it?
timid meteor
It’s a Lacrosse View. https://www.lacrossetechnology.com/pages/la-crosse-view
gaunt marten
something is wrong with the links you send, everything is extremely zoomed in
timid meteor
Weird. Might be because I’m on my iPad? I don’t know.
gaunt marten
perhaps?
it looks upscaled
Matter is to become a new standard in device communication?
timid meteor
One of these years, maybe…
gaunt marten
so 10 more years^^
but why? zigbee seems to me to be a damn good solution as things stand at the moment
timid meteor
Zigbee and ZWave both have the limitation that a device can only be added to a single coordinator. One of the things that Matter solves is that. Among other things. I love Zigbee, but there are some things Matter could do that I would like.
gaunt marten
what would that be?
timid meteor
Well, multi-controller, better firmware updates and more standardization with what a devices exposes. Like the thing that bit you with the “bright” and “dim”. That could be standardized with Matter.
gaunt marten
Like the thing that bit you with the “bright” and “dim”
I don't quite understand what you mean by bitten?
gaunt marten
alias: Lichtsteuerung Keller Flur
description: ""
trigger:
- platform: state
entity_id:- binary_sensor.bewegungsmelder_keller_1_occupancy
from: "off"
to: "on"
id: motion_on
- binary_sensor.bewegungsmelder_keller_1_occupancy
- platform: state
entity_id:- binary_sensor.bewegungsmelder_keller_1_occupancy
from: "on"
to: "off"
for:
hours: 0
minutes: 0
seconds: 10
condition: []
action:
- binary_sensor.bewegungsmelder_keller_1_occupancy
- choose:
- conditions:
- condition: trigger
id: motion_on
sequence: - service: light.turn_on
target:
device_id:
- 0f674ee773567432a04231bafcfa7305
- 5d3a82851f549185953d7f93dc4eeb73
default:
- condition: trigger
- service: light.turn_off
target:
device_id:
- 0f674ee773567432a04231bafcfa7305
- 5d3a82851f549185953d7f93dc4eeb73
mode: restart
- conditions:
What do you think?
timid meteor
Like the thing that bit you with the “bright” and “dim”
I don't quite understand...
Where it wasn’t working properly.
timid meteor
CGPT could write code and scripts for me?
Don’t. Usually ChatGPT has old data and HA moves too fast with new features and such to have any output really work properly.
gaunt marten
GPT has revised it. it's fun to write the code with that 😄
but it's fun. i have gpt 4
that's what gpt wrote, so i think it's really nice
gaunt marten
surely you also have experience with Presence indicator?
for whatever reason, it remains active even when no one is in the room and n
gaunt marten
I have now noticed during testing that the detector reacts too late, only when I get closer. Could it be that they have certain ranges?
timid meteor
surely you also have experience with Presence indicator?
I do. 😊 What kind of presence sensor is it?
timid meteor
hahaha... They should be "ok". Zigbee presence mmWave sensors are not really recommended. They lack the features that better mmWave sensors have (energy/radar tuning, energy avoidance, etc).
Take a look in Z2M under Device > Exposes and see what settings they have. We might be able to get them working for you a bit better.
gaunt marten
I already have, I can increase the sensitivity, which doesn't seem to have helped much. Do you mean that presence detectors are not recommended for zigbee?
timid meteor
Eh, the zigbee ones aren’t great. Some Tuya ones will spam the network and because zigbee traffic is low bandwidth, you can’t really get fast results like you can with a WiFi mmWave sensor.
gaunt marten
Should I rather use a WiFi device?
timid meteor
I'm not gonna say yes for you to throw more money... BUT, yeah, the WiFi ones (especially the ESPHome based ones) are WAY better.
I use Apollo Automation's MSR-2 and MTR-1 sensors and they are fantastic.
gaunt marten
expensive
i don't want to have to change everything now, maybe we can find a solution to optimize the existing one?
timid meteor
The MSR-2 is $35 US. But yes... unfortunately, a lot of home automation is "you get what you pay for".
timid meteor
i don't want to have to change everything now, maybe we can find a solution to o...
Yeah, that was my suggestion earlier. Basically, you're going to have to tweak the sensitivity and maybe move the sensors to other places and see if you can reduce the false positives. Do you have ceiling fans or air currents near the sensors?
gaunt marten
no, it's not that he is too sensitive but that he reacts too late. so he could only look 2 meters and then he would be blind
No, no ceiling fan or similar. Why would that be relevant in this case?
timid meteor
no, it's not that he is too sensitive but that he reacts too late. so he could o...
Yeah, that sounds about right. Is it battery or USB powered?
timid meteor
No, no ceiling fan or similar. Why would that be relevant in this case?
It could, yes. Air currents have to be accounted for with presence sensors.
gaunt marten
Operated directly with electricity
gaunt marten
It could, yes. Air currents have to be accounted for with presence sensors.
I think you misunderstand me
gaunt marten
it's about the range, not the sensitivity.
timid meteor
Oh… hmmmm. Range is a bit difficult. It’s probably using a subpar mmWave sensor so 2m might be all you can get out of it. Maybe 3m at best. The better mmWave sensors can do up to 6m reliably.
gaunt marten
I would also need 5 m. Do you have any ideas?
timid meteor
5m? I don't know of any inexpensive mmWave sensors that will do that reliably. Some might advertise 5-6m, but that's under perfect conditions.
gaunt marten
What price are we talking about?
timid meteor
Well, the Apollo ones I use are $35 US. I have a lot of them and they are very reliable. The guys that make them are good friends of the HA community (and good friends of mine as well).
gaunt marten
It's not worth the cost, I can also place two mmwwave in one room and it would still be cheaper 🙂
And so I already have the solution I just build 2 in the rooms ^^
gaunt marten
How can I search for hue devices again? The motion detector frome phillips is there, when the new transmitter arrives I have to reconnect everything.
timid meteor
You just push the button on the back of the Hue sensor to put it into pairing mode. Then you put Z2M into pairing mode and it should pick it up.
For bulbs, it’s a bit different (if you have any).
gaunt marten
can you help me with the thermostats please?
I work with a better thermostat and somehow the temperatures are not correct. I don't have a temperature sensor in the kitchen, only the thermostat, but it has a built-in sensor. But it doesn't balance the temperature with it so it gets too warm.
I also cannot select the sensor from the thermostat
I have also been looking for a temperature/humidity sensor for a while now. I have one from AVM but it is also a button and therefore too expensive for the job.
timid meteor
I don't think I can help with that. You'll want to create a new topic in #1284966582375813201 . I'm not sure what tag would work for that though. The better thermostat is a custom integration, right?
gaunt marten
I don't understand it, the light stays on again. The sensor has been set to absent but the light stays on.
gaunt marten
Unfortunately, the controls still don't work in the hallway :/
timid meteor
That's weird... Post the yaml for your automation(s) using a code share site.
It's either the automation or it's the sensor. Could be both too.
gaunt marten
It's your yamel
I then updated HA and then it worked again, then briefly not again and now it works. I don't understand the error.
gaunt marten
light control